[Q] Installation of custom ROM with DualRecovery without unlocking? - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I want to install a custom Rom on my Sony Xperia Z1 compact, either CyanogenMod or a Rom from Free Xperia. I wondered if I still have to unlock the bootloader after installation of [NUT]'s DualRecovery.
First the specs of my phone:
Andoroid 4.4.2
Z1C D5503
Build# 14.3.A.0.757
The phone is already rooted using, EasyRootTool v12.4 and SuperSu. Also I installed [NUT]'s DualRecovery:
Z1C-lockeddualrecovery 2.8.14-RELEASE.installer.zip
I also made a backup of the Trim Area and all other partitions using TWRP.
According to the installation instruction for CyanogenMod I'd need to unlock the bootloader and then install ClockworkMod Recovery. And then use CWM to install CyanogenMod (I prefer the sideload method).
I understand the instruction in a way that I have to unlock the device to install CWM.
But after the installation of DualRecovery I already have CWM on the phone. Can I directly boot into CWM to install CyanogenMod without unlocking the device first? I mean CWM is already there to install an image of a different Rom.
Would be great if somebody could tell me if this works. Otherwise I'll get an unlock code and perform the normal steps listed in the Wiki of CyanogenMod. I think I could use those steps to install Free Xperia also.
Thanks!

If you will install cm without unlock bootloader your phone will stuck at Sony logo or get bootloop or soft brick so I recommend to unlock bootloader firstly and after that install any cm roms or custom kernel
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Thanks a lot for your answer! That probably saved me from some trouble.
So the boot loader will simply not accept booting a non Sony Firmware without unlocking. Do I understand that correctly?
Will it be possible to install CM after unlocking the bootloader simply by booting to the already installed CWM?

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[Q] Root and cwm on a .62 (or it was.64?)firmware

Hi guys,i have in my hands an italian xperia play(r800i) with the last 2.3.4 firmware(i dont remember if it is .64 or .62,in every case it is the latest firmware.my question is:how to root and next install cwm?i read of a method with fastboot which start a recovery for install the xperiaroot.zip.it is valid for my phone?and next,how to make recovery permanent without changing kernel?is this method valid? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437840 i specify that the phone has locked bootloader.
Up Someone can reply one of this questions?thanks
You can't use fastboot with a locked bootloader. Also you need root before you can run that CWM app. To get root follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
Then you can just run that CWM app to install recovery. This is somewhat permanent, as it stores the recovery in your system partition, this isn't as secure as your kernel partition, but I don't think that's a problem really.
very thanks,so if in future i install that recovery and next i want to flash the doomkernel,i can't because that kernel is incompatible with a previous installed CWM?

[Q]CWM + Root

Hi guys, so i have my stock Xperia Play GSM and i wanna install a custom Kernel with CWM and then root the phone using CWM. Can you please tell me what is the best Kernel for games and also has the CWM built in. Do i have to do anything else to my phone before i can do this ? I unlocked my bootloader and installed Flashtool ...
Device: Sony Ericsson Xperia Play R800i GSM, Android 2.3.4 -> 4.0.2.A.0.69
Thanks !
I can't tell you which is the best, and I hope all threads starting with "best" gets locked. But generally you need 2.3.3 to root but since you already have an unlocked bootloader, you can install any custom kernel, they have CWM installed so you can boot into recovery by pressing the Volume down button at Sony logo. From there you can install a custom rom that is already rooted. You need the rom and kernel to be compatible with each other in order for the phone to boot.
If you want to just root the phone you need to down grade to 2.3.3 and use the root feature in flashtool. If you want to manually install clock work mod, after rooting, use the CWM installer version 5 from this link, the option to reboot into CWM in the program will not work BTW, you'll have to do it manually. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437840
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eksasol said:
I can't tell you which is the best, and I hope all threads starting with "best" gets locked. But generally you need 2.3.3 to root but since you already have an unlocked bootloader, you can install any custom kernel, they have CWM installed so you can boot into recovery by pressing the Volume down button at Sony logo. From there you can install a custom rom that is already rooted. You need the rom and kernel to be compatible with each other in order for the phone to boot.
If you want to just root the phone you need to down grade to 2.3.3 and use the root feature in flashtool. If you want to manually install clock work mod, after rooting, use the CWM installer version 5 from this link, the option to reboot into CWM in the program will not work BTW, you'll have to do it manually. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437840
Sent from R800a
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If my bootloader would be locked, would flashtool work ? I wanna downgrade to 2.3.3 but when i do so, the program get's stuck at 17% ... When i flash the ROM, do i need to check/uncheck any items ? Like kernel or bootloader ?
K4maD3va said:
If my bootloader would be locked, would flashtool work ? I wanna downgrade to 2.3.3 but when i do so, the program get's stuck at 17% ... When i flash the ROM, do i need to check/uncheck any items ? Like kernel or bootloader ?
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The flashing process can take time, wait up to 10minutes. Sometimes it can get stuck due to bad cable or other variables. Try plugin it in a different port, preferably USB 2.0 port, and with no other USB devices connected to your computer, keep trying and it will work eventually. Try a different cable as well.
Flashtool have to work with locked bootloader, which is needed if you want to restore a locked phone to stock. You don't have to check anything unless you want to specifically exclude it from being flashes. You should flash this firmware, its 2.3.4 but it has been modified to be rootable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591398
I thought you said you unlocked your bootloader though.

rooting xperia zl

i wanna root my sony xperia zl c6502. i am new to this forum and rooting , so i hope the mod can help me here. I hope that after rootng , my bravia engine , walkman , movies and album apps still there. Which software should I download ? Xposed? Cyanogen ? AOSP ? TowerRoot ??or?
Towel root. Rooting won't erase anything from your phone
Towel works great but not if you've already upgraded to 4.4.4.
i upgraded to android 4.4.4 and i want to root my phone
how do i do that?
abdullah.darwish said:
i upgraded to android 4.4.4 and i want to root my phone
how do i do that?
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Is your bootloaded locked, or unlocked? For LOCKED bootloader, I used the following procedure multiple times with no problems (I don't see why it wouldn't work for unlocked bootloader, but I haven't tried it):
1. Flash .230 kernel using FlashTool (basically, you are temporarily downgrading your kernel).
2. Root your phone using newroot.
3. Flash either .283 or .292 kernel (whichever 4.4.4 build you are on) using FlashTool.
4. (optional) Flash a custom recovery (I use XZDualRecovery by [NUT]
You will need kernels to flash in steps #1 and #3 - either search for FTF files to download, or create FTFs yourself using XperiFirm checker/downloaded and FlashTool. The procedure for creating FTF is described in XperiFirm thread.
There may be other ways; I am only telling you what I tried myself, and know 100% that it works...
i have unlocked bootloader
can i root without flashing a new rom? just a kernal
abdullah.darwish said:
i have unlocked bootloader
can i root without flashing a new rom? just a kernal
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The way I understand it, the method I described should also work for unlocked BL.
Of course, you don't need to flash a new ROM -- just a kernel. That's exactly what I said... First, downgrade your existing kernel for rooting, and then, after the rooting is done, flash the proper kernel back.
I wanna root my phone , with locked bl. May I know which website to follow??

Rooting problems with .270

Hey guys,
since some weeks i updated my Firmware to .270. Now i want to root my device, but i don't how to do it.
When i was at .157 it was really easy, but now i have tried several ways and nothing works for me .
Can somebody help me?
Thx
akandi
akandi said:
Hey guys,
since some weeks i updated my Firmware to .270. Now i want to root my device, but i don't how to do it.
When i was at .157 it was really easy, but now i have tried several ways and nothing works for me .
Can somebody help me?
Thx
akandi
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@akandi
1) First go unlock your Bootloader Here ( Official Sony Website )
2) Download the Latest SuperSU Zip File
3) Download any Custom Kernel ( For Lollipop Of Course ) found in the Android Development Section, or you can use the boot.img kernel found in any CM 12 Rom
4) Flash the kernel on your Z1 Compact via Flashtool and enter recovery and flash the Latest SuperSU Zip File.
5) DO NOT REBOOT! Power Down and open Flashtool
6) Select the .270 FW and Uncheck All Except Kernel and FOTA ( Uncheck Final Verification ) here we reflash the stock kernel since using the CM kernel on Stock ROM would cause a bootloop
7) Flash and reboot
or
Install Kingroot on your Computer, root your phone and once your phone receives root access install NUT's Dual Recovery, after which uninstall the Kingroot Superuser app and use SuperSU instead since its less buggy and more stable.
With the first method, once your bootloader is unlocked it is very easy to root your device even when Sony updates it. Personally I used the first method to root my phone
Does the second method unlock my bootloader?
JeyJey16 said:
Does the second method unlock my bootloader?
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No need unlock bootloader

Best way to root,unlock BL and install custom recovery

I have Xperia z1 compact running stock non-rooted 14.6.A.1.236 rom. My bootloader is locked. I want to be able to install custom roms. What's the best way to root, unlock bl and install custom recovery? I've been searching forum for past few days but most of the download links redirect to d-h.st. and that breaks the chain of needed files.
Also i never used flashtool and i don't know should i use Sony flashtool or "original" one
bolcna said:
I have Xperia z1 compact running stock non-rooted 14.6.A.1.236 rom. My bootloader is locked. I want to be able to install custom roms. What's the best way to root, unlock bl and install custom recovery? I've been searching forum for past few days but most of the download links redirect to d-h.st. and that breaks the chain of needed files.
Also i never used flashtool and i don't know should i use Sony flashtool or "original" one
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6
levone1 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6
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Do i have to be rooted to backup TA partition
bolcna said:
Do i have to be rooted to backup TA partition
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I don't think so. Just need adb...
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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You don't have to downgrade to flash NUT. It's been a while since I did it, but I'm pretty sure that flashing supersu won't totally remove Kingroot. Best thing to do once you're rooted, if you don't want to unlock bl, is probably to install recovery, then in recovery flash a prf, which will wipe your system and install new system with supersu instead of Kingroot.
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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I don't trust any universal rooting apps. Only way to legit root your phone is to downgrade to kitkat and then root using exploit, then flash prerooted lollipop (that is if you wan't to stay on stock rooted rom). If you don't plan on staying on stock room and only want quick root you have to use kingroot since that's only universal root that can root z1c. When it comes to recovery there you have two choices. To use xzdualrecovery or to unlock bootloader (you will loose drm keys which means you will lose stuff like x-reality) and flash normal recovery. I would go for dual recovery because if you ever wan't to get back to stock you can since stock recovery isn't getting overwritten with xzdr. But if you choose to unlock bootloader first backup TA (you have to be rooted) and then unlock.
Hope this helps
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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bolcna said:
I don't trust any universal rooting apps. Only way to legit root your phone is to downgrade to kitkat and then root using exploit, then flash prerooted lollipop (that is if you wan't to stay on stock rooted rom). If you don't plan on staying on stock room and only want quick root you have to use kingroot since that's only universal root that can root z1c. When it comes to recovery there you have two choices. To use xzdualrecovery or to unlock bootloader (you will loose drm keys which means you will lose stuff like x-reality) and flash normal recovery. I would go for dual recovery because if you ever wan't to get back to stock you can since stock recovery isn't getting overwritten with xzdr. But if you choose to unlock bootloader first backup TA (you have to be rooted) and then unlock.
Hope this helps
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I would go with unlock bl method. You can restore TA after rooting so you done lose drm, and it's easy to root with unlocked bl - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6

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