Hi All
Just installed "Despicable Me: Minion Rush" the game from the Google Play.
I cannot run it smoothly. Everything is bad, the gameplay is just a pain.
Verified with stock 4.1.2 rooted with stock and Perseus kernels.
I just cannot believe or quad core 1.6GHz + more or less modern GPU cannot handle such a game.
Could anyone try and report your experience?
It doesn't stutter for me in the game while I have control but more like when I click "play" and then the little minion runs and jumps. In game it's responsive (mostly) but while clicking play or changing locations it's HORRIBLY laggy!
I used Asus tablet (Tegra 3 quad core) to run the game.
Same problems exactly.
People wrote reviews stating the old HTC Evo 3D can run "Despicable Me" with no problem at all. I will try to persuade my fem to install the game and make some tests on her Evo 3D.
Not a fine play but it's playable.
I'd say the graphics aren't optimized for our device.
It's funny cause even MC3 runs way better than Minion Rush...
Still, could be worse - I've had friends with iPad mini's, iPhone 5's, and gen 5 iPod touch's that are 'jumpy' (because it will skip a frame) with this game.
I'd get a good 23FPS on this game with Power Saving Mode On.
P.S.: It's probably Gameloft's (the devs') fault. I've seen HTC One's (2013 One) exhibit the same slow frame rate as my Note II.
Gameloft = crap optimization :silly::silly:
I got the device mainly becouse I found a good deal it fit my not too high budget for a tablet. I am also a mobile gamer and I thought with its octa cpu it would handle all games perfectly. That does not seem to be the case, on highest grafics setting asphalt 8 runs at <20 fps while my HTC One m7 runs it perfectly. Is there any way to fix that? Also is there any chance of cyanogenmod for this device? I know it's hard for exynos cpus but is there really no way?
IE-coRe said:
I got the device mainly becouse I found a good deal it fit my not too high budget for a tablet. I am also a mobile gamer and I thought with its octa cpu it would handle all games perfectly. That does not seem to be the case, on highest grafics setting asphalt 8 runs at <20 fps while my HTC One m7 runs it perfectly. Is there any way to fix that? Also is there any chance of cyanogenmod for this device? I know it's hard for exynos cpus but is there really no way?
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same here...
I tried asphalt 8 and the FPS was very low... I was very disapointed.
but I'm pretty sure the problem is software related (this game is not optimized for the device), because I installed NFS most wanted and I was blown away with the graphics and smoothness of the game. If you like a good racing game similar (even better in my opinion) to asphalt 8, I highly recommend that you install NFS most wanted.:good:
an update by samsung or gameloft will eventually solve these problems...
pouya67 said:
same here...
I tried asphalt 8 and the FPS was very low... I was very disapointed.
but I'm pretty sure the problem is software related (this game is not optimized for the device), because I installed NFS most wanted and I was blown away with the graphics and smoothness of the game. If you like a good racing game similar (even better in my opinion) to asphalt 8, I highly recommend that you install NFS most wanted.:good:
an update by samsung or gameloft will eventually solve these problems...
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Yeah I also found out the problem must be related to asphalt because other games, even mc and gta sa run very well I will check out need for speed as well then
I wan't to be sure that it's not only me who is affected, I downloaded Dead Trigger 2 on Lollipop, and it's almost unplayable, whereas on KitKat it was running without any lag even on the High settings. Now it runs like on 10-15 fps, sometimes actually is enjoyable, but then drops down again. The same with Modern Combat 5. Downgrading the graphics from the settings is not a solution for me.
Can anybody check it if it's the same for them?
Szighy said:
I wan't to be sure that it's not only me who is affected, I downloaded Dead Trigger 2 on Lollipop, and it's almost unplayable, whereas on KitKat it was running without any lag even on the High settings. Now it runs like on 10-15 fps, sometimes actually is enjoyable, but then drops down again. The same with Modern Combat 5. Downgrading the graphics from the settings is not a solution for me.
Can anybody check it if it's the same for them?
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Chrome browser and animations are whats laggy for me.
Just installed Dead Trigger 2 and it's highly playable.
abemore said:
Chrome browser and animations are whats laggy for me.
Just installed Dead Trigger 2 and it's highly playable.
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I just clean installed Lollipop with the stock rom google provided, so I will be testing gaming performance in a bit, anyone knows how to root the device without a mod kernel?
Lol I am only playing one game right now. Sad as it is to say this "Cars fast as lightning". Its hard to judge really as while the game is fun, Gameloft support has been slow. Originally it had stuttering and random lockups but when it was running smooth it was running smooth. After lollipop initially it didn't work at all. Then they updated it and for the most part it's fixed. Seemed a little laggier at first but now its fine. Still has the random stuttering but its always had that.
I don't think lollipop is crippling performance I think devs just aren't updating their games
Here is why I stay with KK and not with LP (even 5.1 with insane CPU and GPU OC) : even now at the time of this post, the following games that I play are unplayable on LP but smooth with no OC on KK : Minion Rush, Dead Trigger 2, Vainglory (closed beta), Oddworld, Spiderman Unlimited, Looney Tunes Dash, Deer Hunter 2014, Cars fast as lightning, Heroes Charge lags a bit but playable but still annoying fps drops, etc.
If you use your Nexus 7 2013 for checking the weather and watch youtube videos then go with Lollipop if you really want the latest fancy Android themed veraion.
If you use your Nexus 7 2013 for browsing the web and gaming, then stay with KitKat so you can use your tablet's full performance until the devs fix their apps or Google fixes Lollipop for our device (I don't care who has the fault in games working like I have a 2009 phone instead of a 2013 tablet).
I recently bought this Nexus 7 2013 (2Gb RAM / 32GB storage) with the idea that it would be a great tablet to play vainglory with.... I wanted a 7" tablet that had 2GB of RAM and at least 16GB for storage because I felt an 8" or larger tablet would just too big to play on. I was really disappointed with the performance on VG running on 5.1.1. Gutted really because I've already bought two other budget 8" tablets and they didn't work out very well. As good as this tablet still is, I'm really thinking about returning it and just getting a high-end 8" tablet or something.... I guess downgrading to Kit Kat is an option but I really don't like running an older OS.
This is really crazy,
I've compared NOVA3 Free and Asphalt 8 with a Honor 6 and to my surprise, the Honor 6 is more fluent.
The 550ML have some scenes which are slower (for example the long view in the start of Nova3 free)
3Dmar score is 18300 for my 550ML and 13200 for the Honor6, Honor6 is in Full HD.
How is this possible ? The lag on the 550ML is not enormous but still you can observe it.
No applications runnning in the background, no powersave mode enabled, latest update.
Could it be that lollipop is not optimised for games ?
I don't have the games you mention, but I do play a few, namely Traffic Racer, Lane Splitter, Cut the Rope, Angry Birds... and all of these are fantastic on my 550ML.
But I also have Parking Mania installed and it is terrible, the screen rendering as the game scene moves is lagging badly and making it difficult to play. I find it difficult to blame the phone given that some of the other games which work well should be even more demanding on the system.
Could it be that some games just don't run well on Intel Chip? (I'm no expert so tell me if I'm talking crap).
gontie said:
This is really crazy,
I've compared NOVA3 Free and Asphalt 8 with a Honor 6 and to my surprise, the Honor 6 is more fluent.
The 550ML have some scenes which are slower (for example the long view in the start of Nova3 free)
3Dmar score is 18300 for my 550ML and 13200 for the Honor6, Honor6 is in Full HD.
How is this possible ? The lag on the 550ML is not enormous but still you can observe it.
No applications runnning in the background, no powersave mode enabled, latest update.
Could it be that lollipop is not optimised for games ?
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Overandout said:
I don't have the games you mention, but I do play a few, namely Traffic Racer, Lane Splitter, Cut the Rope, Angry Birds... and all of these are fantastic on my 550ML.
But I also have Parking Mania installed and it is terrible, the screen rendering as the game scene moves is lagging badly and making it difficult to play. I find it difficult to blame the phone given that some of the other games which work well should be even more demanding on the system.
Could it be that some games just don't run well on Intel Chip? (I'm no expert so tell me if I'm talking crap).
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I have 551ML and i have tried NOVA 3 freedom edition... Its plays smoothly no lags no frame drops...Graphics are amazing...No problems faced by me in any games yet..I played Nova 3 Freedom edition, Modern Combat 4 Zero Hour, Modern Combat 5...All these games played well without any issues..I have high end variant of zenfone 2 so have enough ram...Maybe Ram is your culprit.. Try closing apps which are not in use and use in-built ram booster
I also noticed some lag on a few games.. Subway Surfers, DomiNations, Simcity are a few examples. Games that aren't at all that demanding, especially Subway, which always ran smoothly on my 1st gen Moto G, without any problems, and on my 550ML it's noticeable some frame drops. Now I don't think this can be RAM problems, considering Moto G has half the ram and never had such drops. Maybe some games aren't optimized for this soc? .. It has to be because, I've tested games that are flat out heavier and don't have this consistent lag..
One thing is for sure, this phone should have more than enough horsepower to run all these games without issues, yet it doesn't.
cadaveri said:
I also noticed some lag on a few games.. Subway Surfers, DomiNations, Simcity are a few examples. Games that aren't at all that demanding, especially Subway, which always ran smoothly on my 1st gen Moto G, without any problems, and on my 550ML it's noticeable some frame drops. Now I don't think this can be RAM problems, considering Moto G has half the ram and never had such drops. Maybe some games aren't optimized for this soc? .. It has to be because, I've tested games that are flat out heavier and don't have this consistent lag..
One thing is for sure, this phone should have more than enough horsepower to run all these games without issues, yet it doesn't.
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Or this could be related to lollipop since some games are running low slower on lollipop than on Kitkat, at least it is what i've read.
A bit disappointed this frames drop on the 550ML, when you see the benchmark, you cannot think of having this.
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Or this could be related to lollipop since some games are running low slower on lollipop than on Kitkat, at least it is what i've read.
A bit disappointed this frames drop on the 550ML, when you see the benchmark, you cannot think of having this.
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Lollipop don't make games run slower. They played roughly the same after I updated my Nexus 4 and G2 to Lollipop months ago, and the Nexus 9 didn't display any lag even after I reduced the GPU speed by 50%.
There's likely something problematic with the drivers for the PowerVR, or a general lack of optimization for this Intel chipset. Games that are smooth on an iPhone 5S are sluggish on this phone.
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Lollipop don't make games run slower. They played roughly the same after I updated my Nexus 4 and G2 to Lollipop months ago, and the Nexus 9 didn't display any lag even after I reduced the GPU speed by 50%.
There's likely something problematic with the drivers for the PowerVR, or a general lack of optimization for this Intel chipset. Games that are smooth on an iPhone 5S are sluggish on this phone.
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If it is a lack of optimization how am i able to play it smoothly shouldn't my device also lag while playing Nova 3... I didn't notice any lag in any games..I even tried psp emulator and games are working fine
mhp1995 said:
If it is a lack of optimization how am i able to play it smoothly shouldn't my device also lag while playing Nova 3... I didn't notice any lag in any games..I even tried psp emulator and games are working fine
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When you see this video "www".youtube.com/watch?v=xzcxFMbjlME (Remowe the two "" for the link) Asphalt8 has been way slower on Lollipop than kitkat event if the 3Dmark score is two times lower than the 551ML.
We can ask ourselves if the chipset of 550ML has not a leak of performance instead of the 551.
I have created a ticket also for that issue, we'll see what asus answer me.
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If it is a lack of optimization how am i able to play it smoothly shouldn't my device also lag while playing Nova 3... I didn't notice any lag in any games..I even tried psp emulator and games are working fine
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I don't have Nova 3, so maybe there's something wrong with their device. All the games I have such as Real Racing & Mortal Kombat are fine.
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I don't have Nova 3, so maybe there's something wrong with their device. All the games I have such as Real Racing & Mortal Kombat are fine.
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I don't know but it seems many many people complaining are 550ML users... I hardly saw 551ML users complaining (except for battery drain and network drops)
I also don't believe that it is a RAM issue. I always use the game booster for RAM and start playing with about 1.2GB of RAM free.
I have checked the Google Play feedback on the game that gives me problems (Parking Mania) and nobody complains of the lag. I can't believe that everyone reviewing this game is using a phone with 4GB RAM.
Whatever the issue is, it certainly does not affect all games, so I am tending to think that we should not be blaming Asus for this one.
Tried and tested nova 3..1.5gb file....no lag what so ever...only one I notice my phone got to 45 c when playing this...nah....i go back to fifa 15 ..maybe you got so many files on you phone...i have a 800 ram free when playing nova 3....550ml user here..ww
pato2015 said:
Tried and tested nova 3..1.5gb file....no lag what so ever...only one I notice my phone got to 45 c when playing this...nah....i go back to fifa 15 ..maybe you got so many files on you phone...i have a 800 ram free when playing nova 3....550ml user here..ww
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A video is better than a long explination.
Here is a video taken where i can show some latency and frames drop, sorry for the very bad picture quality
link "www66.zippyshare.com/v/ym89Djkd/file.html"
i experiancing a strange problem
none of the gameloft games are not working in my device. and fifa15 too.:angel:
All of the Gameloft games I have tried are working fine. Usually no lag, but frame rate can drop if there is a lot going on.
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Has frame rate improved since last update? Someone on another thread noticed an improvement on a couple of his games.
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Has frame rate improved since last update? Someone on another thread noticed an improvement on a couple of his games.
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I and someone else noticed improvements in a few games so I think the GPU drivers were updated
But I've also noticed that the game I had seen improvement in and only game I had trouble with, The Witcher Battle Arena, that it now spikes CPU usage (usage rises to mid to high 90s) and locks the frequency to the highest step. Not sure if the game is poorly optimized for x86 and/or NDK issues and/or lingering driver issues or what. After a while the phone overheats and throttles.
I have noticed a performance improvement with this procedure :
Go into Settings then Developer Options and check Disable HW Overlays,
Hi,
I am just curious to know if you people use the G5 to play in the free time, going to the bathroom, etc. Have you encountered any issue while playing?
I personally have not seen any issue and I play a lot.
Here is a list of the games I have installed at this moment, What about you?
*Clash Royale
*Clash of Clans
* Quiz up
*Zombie Gunship Survival
*Stack
*Cubiscape
*Guns of Boom
*Crash of Cars
*Slayaway Camp
*Fallout Shelter
*Crashlands
*Super Atomic
I have played mortal Kombat,shafow fight 3,subway surf,asphalt 8,modern combat 5 in stock rom it runs very smoothly on stock rom.And plus point is that our device doesnt heat up much
Injustice II plays perfectly
I just came from a Nexus 6 (which had a then-great 8xx Snapdragon processor) to the G5 Plus, and I'm extremely happy with the game performance. My favorite games are Hill Climb Racing 1 and 2, Dominations, Catapult Kings, and Hot Wheels Race Off. All of them perform better on my G5, even though the processor is a 6xx snapdragon. I was worried, but it's been great.
Dominations especially is very processor / RAM intensive, and it's been very responsive.
Dream League Soccer runs smooth and looks amazing. Is the only game i have too lol