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Bell/Virgin taking pre-orders

I know BB and Futureshop are taking pre-orders today, but so are Bell and Virgin. So I decided to call in and pre-order since it wouldn't let me pre-order with no-term.
Well it turns out I was eligible for some data-discount. I expected to pay the full $649, but am only paying $235! Pre-ordered, shipped to my house. Lovely! Now, I wait.

I see where Bell and Virgin Mobile are selling the GN off contract at $650.00 Canadian (approx $628.00 US, using yahoo currency conversion) for shipping around Dec 7. I could not find the GN on the other 2 sources that you mentioned.
Depending what happens here in the US in the near future, this may be an option for me, instead of ordering from Europe.

HideYoKids said:
I know BB and Futureshop are taking pre-orders today, but so are Bell and Virgin. So I decided to call in and pre-order since it wouldn't let me pre-order with no-term.
Well it turns out I was eligible for some data-discount. I expected to pay the full $649, but am only paying $235! Pre-ordered, shipped to my house. Lovely! Now, I wait.
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How long did you have left on your contract? I have about 18 months left on a 3 year contract and was looking at getting a galaxy nexus at full price from handtec but if i can get it for a discounted price from bell i would rather do that.

Gunner86 said:
How long did you have left on your contract? I have about 18 months left on a 3 year contract and was looking at getting a galaxy nexus at full price from handtec but if i can get it for a discounted price from bell i would rather do that.
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I upgraded to a Moto Atrix the day of their release and I've been sitting since this. So I'd say I've got atleast 30 months left on my contract. She said something about giving me a discount based on my Data plan (I have 6gb for $30).

steevo1 said:
I see where Bell and Virgin Mobile are selling the GN off contract at $650.00 Canadian (approx $628.00 US, using yahoo currency conversion) for shipping around Dec 7. I could not find the GN on the other 2 sources that you mentioned.
Depending what happens here in the US in the near future, this may be an option for me, instead of ordering from Europe.
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BB's pre-order is in-store only with $50 down:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/galaxy-nexus-from-google/pc_nexus.aspx
I agree Canada's pricing looks a heck of a lot more promising!

HideYoKids said:
I upgraded to a Moto Atrix the day of their release and I've been sitting since this. So I'd say I've got atleast 30 months left on my contract. She said something about giving me a discount based on my Data plan (I have 6gb for $30).
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What number did you call?

Gunner86 said:
What number did you call?
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originally 1800 667 0123! I went through some menu stuff.
And yes, BB and Futureshop are both taking pre-orders with $50 down, but Bell is doing it free of charge, and the amount goes on your next bill.

I just called and i would have to pay full price, i'll keep my pre order with handtec i guess.

I just talked to Bell. The GN is 159.99 on a 3 year.

So could American's pre-order from one of the Canadian carriers/retailers and use the phone on ATT/T-Mobile? The Canadian version is the same GSM/HSPA version as in the UK, correct?

Russellmania said:
So could American's pre-order from one of the Canadian carriers/retailers and use the phone on ATT/T-Mobile? The Canadian version is the same GSM/HSPA version as in the UK, correct?
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This what I am considering. I am on Tmobile in the US who will likely not sell this phone, so this seems like a good option for me. I am going to wait until we get closer to Dec 8 before making a decision. A lot could happen here in the US by then.

I went to my local Bell store today on my lunch break with the intention of dumping Rogers to become a Bell customer and pre-order the Nexus. Well, they didn't even realize it was officially up for pre-order today. They said I could go online and enter my email address to get notified for more info (which is what the Bell site had until today).
Then they said they could write down my name and call me if they got some in stock. I said I was hoping to actually sign up with Bell and reserve a phone, but they wouldn't even sell me a SIM card without a contract and come back for the phone later. I was completely willing to become a Bell customer, but they didn't seem interested.
I should note that we deal with this Bell store at my work and they are not known for being too bright, so I honestly wasn't expecting much. One of them was a kid who seemed to think he was in charge, and the other was a woman who was indifferent and apathetic to the point of frustration. I'll call or go to a better store, but I thought I'd share this ridiculous experience

steevo1 said:
This what I am considering. I am on Tmobile in the US who will likely not sell this phone, so this seems like a good option for me. I am going to wait until we get closer to Dec 8 before making a decision. A lot could happen here in the US by then.
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Russellmania said:
So could American's pre-order from one of the Canadian carriers/retailers and use the phone on ATT/T-Mobile? The Canadian version is the same GSM/HSPA version as in the UK, correct?
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I think Bell might be the GSM one as well, as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Mobility
But then again it's Wiki, I don't have any knowledge on Canadian carriers.
Rogers is also going to get it, not sure if that one is going to be GSM as well. People in those networks, can anyone answer please?

Canada is gsm now. they dumped cdma

quierotacobell said:
I think Bell might be the GSM one as well, as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Mobility
But then again it's Wiki, I don't have any knowledge on Canadian carriers.
Rogers is also going to get it, not sure if that one is going to be GSM as well. People in those networks, can anyone answer please?
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GNex Specifications on bell's site:
Connectivity
Compatible with the HSPA+ network
Download speeds: up to 21 Mbps
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Global access
Wi-Fi
GPS
Bluetooth® 3.0
USB connection

The only model Canada will be getting is the GSM/HSPA+ model.
The only other Galaxy Nexus model is the Verizon-specific one. Verizon gets that one and everyone else in the world (including Canada, all carriers) gets the petaband GSM/HSPA+ one.

Anyone know if Bell or Virgin are letting people pre-order on Pay as you Go plans?

So who is selling this unlocked? I want to pre-order an unlocked version today. Looks like Bell is only letting you go with a 3 year contract. Virgin /w contract too.
Futureshop: "The Galaxy Nexus is available at launch through all Future Shop stores on the Bell and Virgin networks." What does this mean?

couchapple said:
So who is selling this unlocked? I want to pre-order an unlocked version today. Looks like Bell is only letting you go with a 3 year contract. Virgin /w contract too.
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There are options on both the Bell and Virgin Mobile web sites that show the Galaxy Nexus for about $650.00 (Canadian) off contract. They also show options to pre order.

steevo1 said:
There are options on both the Bell and Virgin Mobile web sites that show the Galaxy Nexus for about $650.00 off contract. They also show options to pre order.
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I guess I'm not seeing it... on both. I'm in BC. Does this option not exist. Just spent a good 5 minutes on each site trying to figure this out, but still don't see an option for an unlocked version.
EDIT: Just got off with Bell support and said they are *NOT* selling an unlocked version of the Galaxy Nexus.

Worth it to wait and see if HSPA+ version drops in the US?

Is it worth it to wait and see if the GN drops in the US? Right now I can get one from Handtec for ~$696, but if it dropped here would it really be priced any cheaper? It's set to be Canadian$650 (~$636 in American monies), would it be priced maybe around $600 if it's released here? Maybe even less?
Or, is the HSPA+ version even going to come out stateside? All I've been hearing about is the CDMA/LTE version.
Insight?

Canadian version is only US$ 636???
if that is true I will definitely buy one!

Emama said:
Canadian version is only US$ 636???
if that is true I will definitely buy one!
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But you have to be on their carrier and blah blah you can't just buy it outright.

psykick5 said:
Is it worth it to wait and see if the GN drops in the US? Right now I can get one from Handtec for ~$696, but if it dropped here would it really be priced any cheaper? It's set to be Canadian$650 (~$636 in American monies), would it be priced maybe around $600 if it's released here? Maybe even less?
Or, is the HSPA+ version even going to come out stateside? All I've been hearing about is the CDMA/LTE version.
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I debated this for a long long time. Then my N1 had it's usual set of daily hiccups, and I had it. So I bought one. It's a great gadget, and almost worth the $700 I paid.
But, if you're okay with your current phone, stick it out and wait. It won't go up in price.
Early adopters never get rewarded. Only screwed with headaches.

psykick5 said:
But you have to be on their carrier and blah blah you can't just buy it outright.
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is there any details?
You can buy off-contract if you are using that carrier?
or you can only get it along with 3yr plann?

psykick5 said:
Is it worth it to wait and see if the GN drops in the US? Right now I can get one from Handtec for ~$696, but if it dropped here would it really be priced any cheaper? It's set to be Canadian$650 (~$636 in American monies), would it be priced maybe around $600 if it's released here? Maybe even less?
Or, is the HSPA+ version even going to come out stateside? All I've been hearing about is the CDMA/LTE version.
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If you go to Canada and buy it outright you're going to be paying local taxes in the 10%-15% range, and either paying to convert your USD or pay a foreign transaction fee on your credit card... and you're still gonna pay $700 out the door, just like ordering from the UK importers.
If/when it does come to the US unlocked I'd expect it in the $550 range. Just depends how much you wanna pay to get it now.

waylo said:
I debated this for a long long time. Then my N1 had it's usual set of daily hiccups, and I had it. So I bought one. It's a great gadget, and almost worth the $700 I paid.
But, if you're okay with your current phone, stick it out and wait. It won't go up in price.
Early adopters never get rewarded. Only screwed with headaches.
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My HD2 died two months ago and I'm using a POS dumbphone with no data while still having to pay for data.
Ugh tough decisions. Where did you get yours from?
martonikaj said:
If you go to Canada and buy it outright you're going to be paying local taxes in the 10%-15% range, and either paying to convert your USD or pay a foreign transaction fee on your credit card... and you're still gonna pay $700 out the door, just like ordering from the UK importers.
If/when it does come to the US unlocked I'd expect it in the $550 range.
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$550!? I sure hope so!

Sometime last week, an AT&T version passed through the FCC, with HSPA+. Just about a month or so ago, AT&T was asking customers (on twitter, I believe) who would be interested in the device on their network. Seems like they listened.

K.AuthoR said:
Sometime last week, an AT&T version passed through the FCC, with HSPA+. Just about a month or so ago, AT&T was asking customers (on twitter, I believe) who would be interested in the device on their network. Seems like they listened.
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Would it still be the same penta-band GN? If it's just AT&T bands that also doesn't help me.
EDIT: Reading the FCC filing suggests their GN only supports 1900/850. European version it is. Damn you Ma Bell.

psykick5 said:
$550!? I sure hope so!
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Just based on what the Nexus One and Nexus S cost when they were sold unlocked here.
psykick5 said:
Would it still be the same penta-band GN? If it's just AT&T bands that also doesn't help me.
EDIT: Reading the FCC filing suggests their GN only supports 1900/850. European version it is. Damn you Ma Bell.
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The FCC only has to worry about the bands that will be used in the states, which is 850/1900. No reason why they'd make a specific version with a quadband radio to only work on AT&T and not T-mobile. Its more expensive than just using the current pentaband version that's available and putting an AT&T battery cover on it.

I'll give it two weeks. If it doesn't come to the US in a T-Mobile friendly version I'm getting myself one for the holidays from across the pond.

Didnt the GSM pentaband version get approved by the FCC a week before the Verizon LTE version?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/t-mobile-att-ready-galaxy-nexusnexus-prime-passes-through-fcc/

psykick5 said:
My HD2 died two months ago and I'm using a POS dumbphone with no data while still having to pay for data.
Ugh tough decisions. Where did you get yours from?
$550!? I sure hope so!
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I got mine from Negri. But I'd probably go with Expansys-USA, as they apparently have better repair policies. Use ebates for 1.5% off. There's also a $20 coupon floating around.
On cybermonday ebates had a 6% back coupon with them! Was too iffy to pull the trigger then. Damn.

mstyle88 said:
Didnt the GSM pentaband version get approved by the FCC a week before the Verizon LTE version?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/t-mobile-att-ready-galaxy-nexusnexus-prime-passes-through-fcc/
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As the article says, just because it works on bands here and is passed through the FCC doesn't mean it will be sold here. Any phone that could be used on a carrier here needs to pass the FCC. The i9250 is the version being sold overseas right now.

Buy from UK
I think if you cant wait, you should get it from handtec or clove. they ship to usa and their prices dont include taxes for shipping to usa (i think, from what i have read and seen). the price is £445 including shipping, which is less than 700 usd.
i dont think it would release in usa for less than 649 (the same as the iphone 4s 16gb), then u have taxes etc.
plus who knows when is the unlocked version releasing.

Why can't Google just sell it like they did with the N1?

psykick5 said:
Why can't Google just sell it like they did with the N1?
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This! Although I would LOVE it if Amazon USA would sell it.

krishant007 said:
I think if you cant wait, you should get it from handtec or clove. they ship to usa and their prices dont include taxes for shipping to usa (i think, from what i have read and seen). the price is £445 including shipping, which is less than 700 usd.
i dont think it would release in usa for less than 649 (the same as the iphone 4s 16gb), then u have taxes etc.
plus who knows when is the unlocked version releasing.
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But they sold the Nexus S for $529 just fine unlocked this time last year. There's no reason why the 16gb Galaxy Nexus needs to be over $600 USD unlocked.
psykick5 said:
Why can't Google just sell it like they did with the N1?
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Because from pretty much every angle, the Nexus One sales tactic was a failure. They partnered with Verizon this time to get bigger sales and exposure, and because of that we're not seeing it sold unlocked unfortunately.

martonikaj said:
Because from pretty much every angle, the Nexus One sales tactic was a failure. They partnered with Verizon this time to get bigger sales and exposure, and because of that we're not seeing it sold unlocked unfortunately.
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True, but the carriers are nothing but a b*tch in the US. The Europeans have had this phone for three weeks now.

martonikaj said:
Just based on what the Nexus One and Nexus S cost when they were sold unlocked here.
The FCC only has to worry about the bands that will be used in the states, which is 850/1900. No reason why they'd make a specific version with a quadband radio to only work on AT&T and not T-mobile. Its more expensive than just using the current pentaband version that's available and putting an AT&T battery cover on it.
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Actually, two different GSM versions have passed through the FCC - the pentaband international version, and a version with only AT&T HSPA+ bands, see here: http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-nexus-visits-fcc-again-but-with-att-bands-02199735/

Anyone know where to buy the Mate 20x in the US?

Anyone know? Or maybe some legit seller (besides eBay) that would ship here to USA. Also on a side note, does anyone know if LTE would work on the TMobile network?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thank you

haruyukisama said:
Anyone know? Or maybe some legit seller (besides eBay) that would ship here to USA. Also on a side note, does anyone know if LTE would work on the TMobile network?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thank you
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There is a list of sellers at the beginning of this forum. All of them are from China and all ship globally. Ebay is the worst possibility right now - resellers there are taking a great advantage of a limited buying opportunity for this phone.
Check about import duties with your customs before buying. The USA imposes import taxes on China merchandise lately and I don't know if the technical stuff is involved.
Or better, if you're not in hurry, wait a couple of weeks. The price might drop and you may have a chance to buy the phone from Amazon or at least from a reseller in Europe.
As regard T-Mobile, yes, the phone will work with this operator. On HDSPA bands and on LTE bands 2, 4 and 12. It won't work on new bands 66 and 71 but it is the same with other phones except for some iPhone, Samsung, LG, and Motorola models. But then, I think that LTE 12 is mostly in use everywhere. You won't have special services like VoLTE, VoWiFi though. The operator requests certification fee for those services and it can't be expected that Chinese pay it. The phone is not intended for the USA market and besides Huawei is kinda blacklisted there.

piskr said:
There is a list of sellers at the beginning of this forum. All of them are from China and all ship globally.
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I can't find the list of sellers on this forum. Has it been removed?

Buddy Revell said:
I can't find the list of sellers on this forum. Has it been removed?
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It has been quite some time since this inquiry, my friend. The situation has changed a lot since then, the USA and China are in the trade war and hence Chinese removed plenty of Huawei facilities from the USA and therefore you can't find any Mate X support there anymore. You can still buy the Mate X in the USA from various vendors from around the world but without any warranty.
My personal recommendation is to buy it from Amazon, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-EVR-L...116&s=gateway&sprefix=mate+20x,aps,228&sr=8-4.
The dilemma is though what to buy: the Chinese model or the international model (link). Although the international model has problems with occasional random reboots right now on 9.1, the problem will be sorted out eventually and you have fully Google support integrated even with Android Q (EMUI10), which is about to come. The Chinese model has no flaws and upgrades are regularly but then it is heavy bloated and Chinese oriented without native Google apps. There is workaround though with root and transformation rom but as it looks support ends with 9.1 beta.
Both models support Tmobile LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 12.
Why Amazon: It's a US vendor, and there are not many others there right now. As you don't get Huawei warranty in the USA you still have Amazon's guaranty for the enough time to check phone functionality and there are not many chances that you find hidden malfunction later.

Thanks so much. The Chinese version is so much cheaper, I'm looking to get that to use on T-mobile.

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The Chinese model has no flaws and upgrades are regularly but then it is heavy bloated and Chinese oriented without native Google apps. There is workaround though with root and transformation rom but as it looks support ends with 9.1 beta.
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You are wrong, the EVR-AL00 has all the support beyond 9.1 beta and receives official updates before the global version of the phone. The current problem is that with non beta release of 9.1 came the new EROFS file system (see here) that prevents any updates to custom roms, which has lead to many devs leaving this amazing phone and that at the moment you can't get codes to unlock bootloader in order to gain root.

That's what I said. The Chinese model is updated more regulary and works flawlessly as 9.1. But after beta 9.1 there is no internationalization any more and original system is heavy Chinese oriented.
Anyway, if someone is looking for Chinese Mate x I think that Aliexppress has good prices right now.

piskr said:
My personal recommendation is to buy it from Amazon, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-EVR-L...16&s=gateway&sprefix=mate+20x,aps,228&sr=8-4.
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I bought my l29 20x from clove significantly cheaper than that price. I paid 499 pounds (overseas excludes vat) and it's even cheaper now at 439 pounds:
https://www.clove.co.uk/products/huawei-mate-20-x?variant=20736965509179

piskr said:
There is a list of sellers at the beginning of this forum. All of them are from China and all ship globally. Ebay is the worst possibility right now - resellers there are taking a great advantage of a limited buying opportunity for this phone.
Check about import duties with your customs before buying. The USA imposes import taxes on China merchandise lately and I don't know if the technical stuff is involved.
Or better, if you're not in hurry, wait a couple of weeks. The price might drop and you may have a chance to buy the phone from Amazon or at least from a reseller in Europe.
As regard T-Mobile, yes, the phone will work with this operator. On HDSPA bands and on LTE bands 2, 4 and 12. It won't work on new bands 66 and 71 but it is the same with other phones except for some iPhone, Samsung, LG, and Motorola models. But then, I think that LTE 12 is mostly in use everywhere. You won't have special services like VoLTE, VoWiFi though. The operator requests certification fee for those services and it can't be expected that Chinese pay it. The phone is not intended for the USA market and besides Huawei is kinda blacklisted there.
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You see I'm researching the 20X and some say that it does have volte functionality when being used on Tmobile USA and some like yourself say it doesn't.
However i'm aware the Mate 20 and Mate 20 pro doesn't have volte functionality on the tmobile network. But does the 20X?
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I love my EVRL29 version...this is by far the best phone I have used hands down.
I purchased mine from Amazon.com and have the protection of Amazon. I purchased the AL00 first as I had the EVRL29 previously (6 months ago but sold it to get the P30Pro) but I ended up missing my Mate 20X so much I had to sell my P30Pro and get back to my Mate 20X. The AL00 was easy to remove the bloat etc but I couldn’t get all Google to work including some of the Google back ups. I couldn’t get Google Pay to work but actually activating the Google apps was very easy. I had to return the AL00 though as I just didn’t want a fantastic phone that only half worked...maybe not half but you get the picture. I reordered from the Amazon.com dealer and the phone was shipped the following day Thursday and I had it in my hands Friday afternoon. The pick up time was Thurs at 3pm and delivered the next day by noon, from Hong Kong to Victoria, B.C literally overnight. Anyways I also have received 4 updates since I got the phone and I would 100% get the EVRL29 model as everything works including Google Pay, back ups, everything...I love this phone!

[DISCUSSION] Shall we expect Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals?

I was looking at possibly purchasing the ROG Phone II soon, but Black Friday and Cyber Monday will be right around the corner by the time I know for sure. This would be the first time I've considered Asus, so I'm wondering if I should hold off until those sales, or if any sale would be worth waiting for. I looked at some of last year's sales from them, and it looked like most prices were $50-100 off similar priced products, and I didn't see any that included the original ROG Phone.
Should we expect more of the same with sales that aren't all that special, or is there a chance they could surprise us with something worth waiting for?

I'm keeping my eye on this while I wait for any surprise Black Friday sales. I don't know if this site is reputable though.

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I'm keeping my eye on this while I wait for any surprise Black Friday sales. I don't know if this site is reputable though.
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From what I've read, that site is reputable in that you'll get your product, but understand what you're getting. They are falsely advertising that this is an international version. In reality, they are selling the spec limited China Tencent version that's been "unlocked" (their wording, which I'm assuming means had the global ROM flashed). You can tell by the lower 128 GB/8 GB specs and their sample photos even show the Tencent logo on the back. For us in the U.S, that means less frequency and carrier support than what little the true NA version has, and no warranty because it's a grey market item that's been tampered with.
I know a lot of U.S. users have the Tencent version, flashed it to the global ROM, and are happy with it despite its limitations, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. After learning more about the whole GSM/VoLTE issue since I made this thread, I'm having a hard time even recommending the NA version to anyone in the U.S. I've pretty much decided I'm not going to be getting it.

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I'm keeping my eye on this while I wait for any surprise Black Friday sales. I don't know if this site is reputable though.
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Gear best seems pretty reputable.
Other user is right though. You would have to send it back to china for warranty (through your vendor) or just hope asus will take care of you (which in my case they usually have, I buy a lot from them)
If I was considering the 8GB version, I would definitely try to look for the indian 8gb/128gb model. I think It says ROG on the back instead of tencent and has an all glass back instead of metal and glass.

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Gear best seems pretty reputable.
Other user is right though. You would have to send it back to china for warranty (through your vendor) or just hope asus will take care of you (which in my case they usually have, I buy a lot from them)
If I was considering the 8GB version, I would definitely try to look for the indian 8gb/128gb model. I think It says ROG on the back instead of tencent and has an all glass back instead of metal and glass.
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Something new? I want one for Europe... Spain, concretely. Where to buy?

For what it's worth, they do have a couple black Friday deals now.
https://store.asus.com/us/category/blackfriday
It looks like they are offering the Tencent version in the U.S. Officially now? I guess instead of improving the offering, they want to sell us a worse product that is barely useable on our networks. I'm losing more and more respect for that company any time I look up info about this phone.
Plus it's sold out. Have they ever had any in stock? Lol

https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/vivo-etc/1879-asus-rog-phone-2-8gb-128gb.html
Pretty much the lowest price I have seen so far. Gearbest, AliExpress, banggood - all those stores have higher prices at this moment.

Maczuga said:
https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/vivo-etc/1879-asus-rog-phone-2-8gb-128gb.html
Pretty much the lowest price I have seen so far. Gearbest, AliExpress, banggood - all those stores have higher prices at this moment.
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That's the China Tencent version, which I wouldn't take even if it was free. The NA version is already obsolete by design with limited band support and no VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling, so why would I want something worse than that?
I do need to correct myself, though. The Asus black Friday page is selling the original ROG phone, not the ROG phone 2.

Mr_Mooncatt said:
That's the China Tencent version, which I wouldn't take even if it was free. The NA version is already obsolete by design with limited band support and no VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling, so why would I want something worse than that?
I do need to correct myself, though. The Asus black Friday page is selling the original ROG phone, not the ROG phone 2.
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I do not care about the design, both functions you have mentioned are not supported by my mobile provider and it supports all bands here, so I guess it's just up for personal preferences.
Most people I have contacted in EU are getting the Tencent version, it just gives us most of stuff we need.

Maczuga said:
I do not care about the design, both functions you have mentioned are not supported by my mobile provider and it supports all bands here, so I guess it's just up for personal preferences.
Most people I have contacted in EU are getting the Tencent version, it just gives us most of stuff we need.
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I see on your profile that you are in Poland. Black Friday is a U.S. retail event, so that's why this thread is focused on the North American version of the phone. I understand you have different priorities, but our GSM networks are scheduled to be shut down within the useable life of the phone. At that time, the ROG Phone 2 will no longer be able to make a phone call in the U.S. The only way to make calls would be through VoLTE, which Asus has said they don't intend to enable on the NA version. It's not a personal preference issue here, it's a basic usability problem.

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I see on your profile that you are in Poland. Black Friday is a U.S. retail event, so that's why this thread is focused on the North American version of the phone. I understand you have different priorities, but our GSM networks are scheduled to be shut down within the useable life of the phone. At that time, the ROG Phone 2 will no longer be able to make a phone call in the U.S. The only way to make calls would be through VoLTE, which Asus has said they don't intend to enable on the NA version. It's not a personal preference issue here, it's a basic usability problem.
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That's right. But the Black Friday is now much more popular in other countries (althrough the deals are not somehow interesting, mostly fake discounts), that surely wasn't a thing some years ago. However, there was 1 person from EU asking about Black Friday deals too, so I just wanted to point to some available discounts.
Didn't know about the scheduled network shutdown in US, that explains why US buyers avoid the Tencent version.

Maczuga said:
That's right. But the Black Friday is now much more popular in other countries (althrough the deals are not somehow interesting, mostly fake discounts), that surely wasn't a thing some years ago. However, there was 1 person from EU asking about Black Friday deals too, so I just wanted to point to some available discounts.
Didn't know about the scheduled network shutdown in US, that explains why US buyers avoid the Tencent version.
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And I didn't realize Black Friday was a thing elsewhere now. Hopefully it's not as violent as it sometimes is here in the states. XD

China 8/256

So I can get the 7T with 8/256 imported on Honor buy or eglobal for about €500
This is €100 cheaper than oneplus official site which only sells 8/128 model
The only real downside is that they open the box and flash global rom.
Does anyone recommend buying like this and what are your experiences ?
Im just not really comfortable with them opening the box and handling the phone but I suppose everything should really be ok

manus31 said:
So I can get the 7T with 8/256 imported on Honor buy or eglobal for about €500
This is €100 cheaper than oneplus official site which only sells 8/128 model
The only real downside is that they open the box and flash global rom.
Does anyone recommend buying like this and what are your experiences ?
Im just not really comfortable with them opening the box and handling the phone but I suppose everything should really be ok
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You can always just request them to ship it sealed. To be sure, just email them before placing the order and ask if its possible to ship it sealed with CN ROM. If they say it is not possible, just order from another site, like wondamobile.

android2819 said:
You can always just request them to ship it sealed. To be sure, just email them before placing the order and ask if its possible to ship it sealed with CN ROM. If they say it is not possible, just order from another site, like wondamobile.
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Yea,I have done my research there and contacted support on both eglobal and Honor buy. They say they can't do it but Wonda mobile does(though I have heard of people requesting it sealed only to receive it open).
The downside with Wonda is their prices are a little higher and they charge 20 to 40 euro on delivery outside the UK

You can get it for a lot less..

galr said:
You can get it for a lot less..
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AliExpress ??

Even i'm thinking of getting one from aliexpress as it is cheaper.
Is there any hardware difference between chinese and global version?
Only changing from hydrogen os to oxygen os will suffice?

afaque_hassan said:
Even i'm thinking of getting one from aliexpress as it is cheaper.
Is there any hardware difference between chinese and global version?
Only changing from hydrogen os to oxygen os will suffice?
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Yep, Oneplus is good like that,all same LTE bands and everything on the Chinese version so just simply install OxygenOS.
AliExpress though,while cheap takes a few weeks to be delivered.
If I could find a store willing to provide a sealed unit I would probably buy.

manus31 said:
Yep, Oneplus is good like that,all same LTE bands and everything on the Chinese version so just simply install OxygenOS.
AliExpress though,while cheap takes a few weeks to be delivered.
If I could find a store willing to provide a sealed unit I would probably buy.
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there are some crazy offers lined up for 11.11 sale on Ali Express. The only thing keeping me back is lack of 3.5 . I would sorely miss it.

manus31 said:
Yea,I have done my research there and contacted support on both eglobal and Honor buy. They say they can't do it but Wonda mobile does(though I have heard of people requesting it sealed only to receive it open).
The downside with Wonda is their prices are a little higher and they charge 20 to 40 euro on delivery outside the UK
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I'm pretty sure that with Wondamobile(that's where i want to get one from), if you email/call them before placing the order and also notifying them again with order number just as you placed it, that they will ship it sealed. Nevertheless, if somehow your order gets shipped unsealed, you have 14 days to return your order, bearing a 30 pounds fee for ''change of mind'' aka don't want it.
Plus, what got me hooked on wonda even though its a bit pricier, there are no import tax fees, your order is sure to get delivered in about a week compared to ali and they do offer warranty 12 months, compared to ali.
I also did a bit of research on them and they seem very legit, their trustpilot is almost only 5 stars reviews, people seem very pleased with them.
True you do pay 20 pounds delivery outside UK, but from ali you pay both delivery fees by courier AND import tax which is a big no especially on the price of the phone. Unless, you find a store that is guaranteed no import tax and transport price is low enough, there is still the warranty question at hand.
Anyhow, i'm not affiliated with them in any way and i'm not trying to influence your decision. I haven't ordered mine yet, still looking around for best place to get it from at a low enough price but also a safe product.
Have a good day!

android2819 said:
I'm pretty sure that with Wondamobile(that's where i want to get one from), if you email/call them before placing the order and also notifying them again with order number just as you placed it, that they will ship it sealed. Nevertheless, if somehow your order gets shipped unsealed, you have 14 days to return your order, bearing a 30 pounds fee for ''change of mind'' aka don't want it.
Plus, what got me hooked on wonda even though its a bit pricier, there are no import tax fees, your order is sure to get delivered in about a week compared to ali and they do offer warranty 12 months, compared to ali.
I also did a bit of research on them and they seem very legit, their trustpilot is almost only 5 stars reviews, people seem very pleased with them.
True you do pay 20 pounds delivery outside UK, but from ali you pay both delivery fees by courier AND import tax which is a big no especially on the price of the phone. Unless, you find a store that is guaranteed no import tax and transport price is low enough, there is still the warranty question at hand.
Anyhow, i'm not affiliated with them in any way and i'm not trying to influence your decision. I haven't ordered mine yet, still looking around for best place to get it from at a low enough price but also a safe product.
Have a good day!
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Absolutely,I've been in touch with Wonda previously inquiring about previous phones and they did say to ask them to send the phone sealed. The only problem is that their prices are just a little too high for it to be really worth it. For instance the 7T is about €500 + the €25 delivery,it is still a nice saving but not really appealing.Certainly a very good option though but eglobal and Honor buy are cheaper with also no custom charges but they don't give Chinese phones sealed

JD.com has the China version 8/256gb (BRAND NEW) for less than $460 shipping included. I compared the China version and knew some T-Mobile LTE bands are not listed.

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JD.com has the China version 8/256gb (BRAND NEW) for less than $460 shipping included. I compared the China version and knew some T-Mobile LTE bands are not listed.
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From Oneplus HK website specs for bands.
Bands (CN & IN)
FDD-LTE:B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,26,28,29
TDD-LTE:B34,38,39,40,41
TDS:B34,B39
UMTS:B1,2,4,5,8,9,19
CDMA:BC0,BC1
GSM:B2,3,5,8
Bands (NA)
FDD-LTE:B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,30,46,66,71
TDD-LTE:B34,38,39,41,48
UMTS:B1,2,4,5,8,9,19
CDMA:BC0,BC1,BC10
GSM:B2,3,5,8
Bands (EU)
FDD-LTE:B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,32,66
TDD-LTE:B34,38,39,40,41
UMTS:B1,2,4,5,8,9,19
CDMA:BC0,BC1
GSM:B2,3,5,8

CN 8/256 on Verizon USA
I ordered an 8/256 "International" model from geartbest. They don't list a model #, but I'm almost certain it is the hd1900 or cn version. I plan to use it on Verizon in the US. Is anyone aware of potential issues I'll run into? Apparently Verizon is using some band 66 now, and that frequency isn't listed for the cn model. I'm very curious to know if the EU or international ROM they load enables band 66?

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JD.com has the China version 8/256gb (BRAND NEW) for less than $460 shipping included. I compared the China version and knew some T-Mobile LTE bands are not listed.
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That's the only thing that stopped me, I'm on T-Mobile and I know if I am going to keep the phone long term, I want the most bands possible. I would love the double storage but I'm only using 50gb right now on my current phone so 256gb is a bit overkill if I'm giving up Band 66 & 71.

Does anyone on this board actually have the 256gb version on T-mobile in the US? How's it performing. I saw a number of sellers have it on Ebay presumably in sealed boxes.

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Does anyone on this board actually have the 256gb version on T-mobile in the US? How's it performing. I saw a number of sellers have it on Ebay presumably in sealed boxes.
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Most from eBay are not the U.S. version, which do not support T-Mobile' LTE band 66 and 71.
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Tumpster said:
That's the only thing that stopped me, I'm on T-Mobile and I know if I am going to keep the phone long term, I want the most bands possible. I would love the double storage but I'm only using 50gb right now on my current phone so 256gb is a bit overkill if I'm giving up Band 66 & 71.
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Yeah, I am using Hwawei Mate 20 X(China version) with T-Mobile. At the time I didn't know it doesn't support band 66 and 71, so I got it because the ChIna version was like $150 cheaper than the non-China version.
Without band 66 and 71, I didn't experience obvious difference of reception but I know sometimes the internet speed is very slow. I am guessing that's why.

Thanks. I've been running LTE discovery app on my 7 pro and the bands my phone constantly uses are 2, 4 and 12. I was assuming that even though the 256gb was missing 66 and 71 that it wouldn't be much of a problem (since it was 2, 4 and 12(). Am I wrong?
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Most from eBay are not the U.S. version, which do not support T-Mobile' LTE band 66 and 71.
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Yeah, I am using Hwawei Mate 20 X(China version) with T-Mobile. At the time I didn't know it doesn't support band 66 and 71, so I got it because the ChIna version was like $150 cheaper than the non-China version.
Without band 66 and 71, I didn't experience obvious difference of reception but I know sometimes the internet speed is very slow. I am guessing that's why.
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tranemonk said:
Thanks. I've been running LTE discovery app on my 7 pro and the bands my phone constantly uses are 2, 4 and 12. I was assuming that even though the 256gb was missing 66 and 71 that it wouldn't be much of a problem (since it was 2, 4 and 12(). Am I wrong?
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You're not wrong for that line of thinking it's more of where Band 66 and 71 go in the future. If you keep your phone long term it would be good to have all available bands. Just saw T-Mobile is rolling out 5G on it's 600mhz band 71. Now, the 7T can't get 5G but just an example of you never quite know what they are going to do with the bands. Pending how much you travel it would be good to have all bands available that your carrier operates on. If you switch phones often then this a moot point and you should go for the 256GB version, but as I said this is what kept me from picking one up and ultimately getting the NA version.

Thanks. I'm going to give the 256gb a try since these international prices are ridiculously good. Hopefully it will be fine. Thanks again.
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You're not wrong for that line of thinking it's more of where Band 66 and 71 go in the future. If you keep your phone long term it would be good to have all available bands. Just saw T-Mobile is rolling out 5G on it's 600mhz band 71. Now, the 7T can't get 5G but just an example of you never quite know what they are going to do with the bands. Pending how much you travel it would be good to have all bands available that your carrier operates on. If you switch phones often then this a moot point and you should go for the 256GB version, but as I said this is what kept me from picking one up and ultimately getting the NA version.
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tranemonk said:
Thanks. I'm going to give the 256gb a try since these international prices are ridiculously good. Hopefully it will be fine. Thanks again.
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Hi
I'm not making any promotion for them but I ordered yesterday the 256GB version for about 445€ from Gearbest. This was with a coupon, but now the price is event more interesting without : 490$
If you have a way to pay in $ without being charged by your bank (online free bank accounts allow that) it's about 441€.
Again, not trying to sell anything, I just think price is really good.
https://m.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009341308364.html?lkid=10102456&vip=