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debating to exchange my S5 for a M8

well i just switched to t-mobile maybe a week or two ago and got the S5 because it was what they had in store and i just came from a S4 from verizon and thought it couldn't hurt to stay loyal to samsung.
Well i been watching a lot of videos of the M8 and it seems i am starting to take a liking to it but for some reason i feel like i am downgrading (maybe because the S5 is just a tad newer)
How is the rooting on this device and does this phone have CWM yet? i like to flash roms and i already have my S5 rooted and CWM already and is the bootloader on this phone unlocked? i have never used a HTC device before and i have always stuck with Samsung smart phones.
how is the battery life on this phone? and has anyone else exhanged there S5 for a M8?
also another thing that is wanting me to switch is that cool dot case that makes it seem like a old school 8 bit deal.

Can't comment on the s5 but I have had the s3, s4, and the note 3 but my most recent phone before my switch was the nexus 5. I'm sort of bias because I HATE touchwiz. Every Samsung I have had that was the first thing I got rid of. HTC has come along way and I'm not sure if you can actually say the s5 is newer since I'm pretty sure they were released the same day.
Anyways CWM and TWRP are both available just depends on your build date if you can complete the process to getting it. But I'm sure that will be rectified soon enough.
That all being said I love my M8 I'm going on day 3 now and not looking back. But I honestly never even had the s5 as a thought in my mind because I've owned plenty of Samsung devices including the gear and don't think I will be returning anytime soon.
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The M8 is quite a phone. I still have a rooted S4 with an AOSP ROM installed since I hate Touchwiz as well. I'm thinking of switching too because I love the aluminum build, BoomSound speakers, and Sense is very good and fluid unlike many other Android skins; not to mention it adds some functionality with the useful gestures. Only thing I can gripe about the M8 is the camera being such a low mega(ultra)pixel count, and the power button being on top. Good thing the gestures allow you to wake the device without having to use power button. I say switch if you don't take many pictures with the rear facing camera. According to some reviewers like Android Authority and PocketNow, the battery on this is really good despite it having a smaller battery.

I did. Got s5 first, used for a day. Wasn't impressed, even bored would say. Sent it back and got M8 instead, very pleased so far. Even camera is not as bad as I thought it would be
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I like you was a loyal Samsung guy, but I decided to go HTC and I love it. It's a beautiful device.
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If you can tolerate the touch wiz lag and stuttering, then you will be fine with S5. If you want buttery smooth perf then get the M8. I have the unlocked version of M8 and got the T-Mobile S5 on launch day. Just returned the S5 back yesterday because I can't tolerate lag and stutter on such powerful hardware. It's really a shame, S5 has such an awesome screen and camera but Samsung ****ed up again in software. You will not notice it immediately but after 2 or 3 days the software starts bogging the device down.
On the M8, have been using for almost 20 days and it runs buttery smooth still.
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I did the exact same thing as you and have no regrets at all. The m8 is hands down the more polished phone and already has some really great roms over in the regular m8 forums that are compatible with the T-mobile version. Do it!

Had a Galaxy 1 & 3 and I was a big fan. I found the 5 to be pretty boring. That doesn't mean it isn't a quality phone, there just isn't any distinction between itself and it's predecessors.
My last HTC was the G1 so I thought I would switch it up and I am glad I did.

I have been a loyal Sammy customer since the vibrant days. Last year in Jan I bought a Nexus device and it was nice. Again I went back to Sammy, until the LG G2. What an amazing device, smooth UI and it was different. Then HTC One M8 came out and decided to give in and give HTC again after the HTC Sensation. WOW. HTC got it right, the build quality and the way the device actually feels in your hands is just awesome. I have experienced 0 lag in the last few days I have owned the device. In love with it so much so, next week jumping the wife's S4 to the M8.
Make the jump you will definitely will not be disappointed.
Just my 2 cents.
Oh yea the one thing I loved about the G2 is the knock off feature. With being able to wake the M8 via knock, I installed Nova Prime and downloaded screen off and now I have full knock off and on.

I have the M8 and love it, Coming from S3/S4/Note 3 my biggest issue was Touchwiz and the sometimes buggy software like Watch on. SInce you root and do customs ROMS I would say just stick with S5.

My wife is making the switch today. There are a few reasons outside of the fact hers was defective.
Speaker - the whole back of the phone rattles while the speaker is playing. Its so bad it can be felt outside a case. Not to mention its just horrible.
The build leaves a lot to be desired. It looks and feels real cheap. The software is buggy and has a lot of slowdowns, its preloaded with tons of useless stuff and the camera, while good has its downsides.
She had the M7 and loved it except for the purple flare issue and the battery life. They fixed both of those on the M8.
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I had s2 s4 and note 3 , now I am a happy owner of m8. Galaxies are good phones but this m8 is at another level.... The speakers sound, the camera, and the build quality I like it better.
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I'm coming from Samsung, note 3...I've had a galaxy, galaxy 2, galaxy 4, note, note 2, note 3. Get the m8 you will not be disappointed. Sense 6 is so much better than touchwiz. I usually put nova launcher on my Samsung's but never had to on the m7 or m8. Just my opinion.
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I did the exact same thing as you and have no regrets at all. The m8 is hands down the more polished phone and already has some really great roms over in the regular m8 forums that are compatible with the T-mobile version. Do it!

I gotta agree with everybody else. The last Sammy I had was the note 2 and I hated TouchWiz. I feel like Samsung tries to cram as much gimmicky software crap into their phones with ends up just being a cluttered mess. The S5 may have a slightly better camera but the M8 kicks its ass in every other category besides battery capacity. And trust me the camera is not that bad. It can still take some nice shots. The M8 is such a beautiful phone and def got it right in terms of design. The Galaxy line seems to be the same phone with hardware bumps. Seriously play with a S4 and S5 side by side, besides the slight design change its hard to tell them apart...
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TL;DR Watch This > M8 vs S5 performance
As someone that comes from the S2, S3, Note 2, Note 3 Devices. I can tell you that one of the things that finally put me over the edge was how buggy Touchwiz got in the end (with Note 3).
I could never have looked at the M8 as a downgrade from even the S5. I did not own the S5, however you have to consider more than just specs. My biggest worry was picture quality. I have the phone and don't worry about it because it takes as good a picture as I would like. I use the camera more than anything and am really picky so this was surprising.
The battery is great (comparable to my Note 3 which was bigger battery), the build is unrivaled, the sound (if you love music, the aux and speakers are unmatched) is crazy and finally the OS. Touchwiz was starting to get buggier with every iteration. I have seen it with the S5 and there is plenty of evidence.
The M8 simply does not lag. Whatever you throw at it, however fast you are, no matter how fast you text, no matter what you try to do, it doesn't slow down. The Note 3 would hiccup, freeze, and all sorts of stuff.
Also, I had second thoughts in the reverse. I thought should I have gone with the S5? Was it the better phone? This helped put my mind at ease > Opinion about S5 inferior abilities
Get the M8, enjoy it's speed, build and awesome power, forget about brand loyalty. Brands should earn your loyalty, not get it for free or because you are 'used' to them.

I am coming from a s4 to the M8. I also had the S2 and S3. Samsungs software has gotten so bloated. Today is my 2nd full day with my M8. Normally I would be at around 60 percent battery if I am lucky. Today I am still at 82% with medium usage 10 hours off charger. That is with NFC Bluetooth GPS and Wifi on. (I have a pebble.) While I can not a test to the S5 I will say I love the M8 the software is just cleaner and easier to use. I don't get lost in the menu.

I owned the S5 for a week before I went to the M8. The S5 was probably the worst samsung phone I have had and I have used the S2, S3, S4, Note and Note 3. The UI had so much lag and when playing games it would completely freeze up on me, speaker was horrible, ton of useless bloat and the feel was very cheap. I could literally hold the phone at opposite corners and the whole thing would flex with almost no effort. For me Samsung has lost me to HTC unless they decide to come up with better speakers and premium build quality.

Tested the S5 when I was decided to buy the M8 didn't convinced me Camera could be better yes but it's not bad... hearth rate sensor you can have it on HTC also with an app so S5 is just plastic phone with Band Aid look!

Haven gotten the HTC One X then the M7 i thought this year I'd give the galaxy s5 a go. The camera was the biggest selling point for me, plus the waterproofness. After a few days I was super over it. It wasn't anything special, and switching to t-mobile where you end up financing the full price of the phone I wasn't satisfied. And I knew I wouldn't be happy, and it didn't feel worth committing to a device for a price tag of $660. The second I held the M8 I knew I made the right decision. Everything felt way smoother. I prefer the screen, aluminum design, and of course boom sound. Why its not a standard on all handsets is beyond me.
The Moto X+ might temp me though.. I love the idea of always listening. My xbox one has spoiled me. I feel like all electronics should respond to your voice without having to fidget with any buttons. The One+ also looks killer..
For now though I am very happy with my M8. Theres no doubt its the best android option out there at the moment.

[Q] Thinking of buying an M8 but Is the camera still that bad?

Hi Guys
Im thinking of changing from G S5 to an M8 (S5 is Sooo boring to use, its just an S4 really), but I do like a good quality camera.. so Im just curious to ask ..
Is the camera as bad as the reviews say and have the HTC Updates improved it at all?
If you own an S5, how does the M8 compare?
Thanks

pretty silly reason to change a phone. S5 is as good as m8 so i suggest ,stick to it. Not really a upgrade and you will get bored of all phones , we all do.
and there are **** loads of comparison vidoes
www.youtube.com is your friend

I hate samsung and i bought m8 3days ago its the best phone i just love it pictures are awesome to specially in low light
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jags_the1 said:
pretty silly reason to change a phone. S5 is as good as m8 so i suggest ,stick to it. Not really a upgrade and you will get bored of all phones , we all do.
and there are **** loads of comparison vidoes
www.youtube.com is your friend
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Its not really a silly reason at this point no... when you consider that Ive only had the phone 3 days, The Touchwiz overhaul is not as major as they promised and the videos on YouTube, which Ive watched many of, all seem to come from the first 4 weeks after release, of which most, not all, are from over excited fanboys or bought reviewers, and dont take into account the updates that have been pushed by HTC to date and if these said updates have improved the camera at all and also how the audio sounds without Beats Audio..
The S5 Camera, like the S4 LTE on release day, does have some focusing and noise issues in low light, but the youtube videos dont tell you that..
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I hate samsung and i bought m8 3days ago its the best phone i just love it pictures are awesome to specially in low light
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Thanks for the input
But its mainly the camera, so If anyone can help me please.. Has the updates improved the camera

If your just going to use the pictures on your phone or for mms this phone is great (I previous owned a S4 and a Z1). There's also a mod on here you might want to check out?
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There are entire threads about this topic, including one with dozens of pages of photos for you to look at, all tken with the M8. Whether the camera is good enough is completely subjective, so look at the photos it takes and see if they're good enough for you.

To the OP, I know exactly how it feels to currently be torn in middle between sticking with the S5 or M8.
Now as for my opinion, since I owned both phones, Im currently on and Sticking the M8.
I originally bought the M8 from TMobile new the day it came out. At first I was very impressed with the built quality and the smoothness of the UI on top of Android (Sense)
But after about 3 weeks of playing with it and taking lots and lots of pictures, I decided I wanted to give the S5 a try. So I ended up trading my M8 on Craigslist, even trade, for a Galaxy S5 in same new condition.
Now after playing with the S5 and using the camera to the fullest extent and my daughter Pre K graduation, I was very impressed with the Galaxy S5 camera. Like the Note 3 it had the same bells and wisles except with a higher pixel count and a couple more features added. But in comparison to the HTC One M8, the camera do seem to be "slightly" more sharper and more realistic looking.
BUT
With the big over haul in TouchWiz the phone seemed to lag here and there, and speaking of camera, during my daughters graduation Im taking lots of Pics and 1080p video, the phone started getting very wam and prompt a message that said "Phone Over Heating, Camera Disabled". So my camera was disable during the graduation so I missed a couple moments to take pics and record video. Phone cooled down and the camera was back working again......
Long story short, I ended up sale that Galaxy S5 for 450 and used that 450 to purchase my HTC One back from the guy I traded it to so now I have my original M8 back.
M8 is a overall better experience. After using the M8 yesterday at my sons 1st birthday party since he turned one year old, the pitcures tookedn with the M8 look pretty dam good.
Even got compliments while my camera was out by people looking at the view finder as we were taking pictures. Not to mention the UI being 100 percent smooth and I also found the battery to last a whole lot better on the M8 vs the S5.
So thats my 2 cents! Hit me up on twitter if you have any comments or questions. @FiberOpticsRLD

Honestly getting fed up with this bs now. The camera on both the m7 and the m8 is perfectly good and takes good clear pictures. If you want crap hot photos that you can blow up to the size of house, I say go and buy an expensive camera.
This 4 mega pixel comparison bollox is a load of crap. They are ULTRA pixels NOT megapixels. Just like hd and uhd.

After using both phones, I can deffinetly say that both the M7 and the M8 take excellent pic and video in low light conditions.
From what I understand with the pixel count being lower, this allows for more light to be picked up.

i'm switching to the M8 from the S5 as well. S5 is a fine phone but the occasional lag is enough to annoy me.

dwd3885 said:
i'm switching to the M8 from the S5 as well. S5 is a fine phone but the occasional lag is enough to annoy me.
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Yeah, after using the M7 -> Note 3 -> M8 - >S5 -> M8
I started to notice the high quality of HTC not only in the physicall hardware itself being the case of the phone and the screen and loud speakers, but I also started to see how the high quality of HTC Sense is vs TouchWiz. Even when compared to the skin on the LG G2 and other LG phones, the HTC Sense skin is just very light and optimized.
Deffinetly glad I was able to get my original purchased M8 back from Craigslist before it got traded off too far in the Craigslist world LOL.

hypersonicx said:
After using both phones, I can deffinetly say that both the M7 and the M8 take excellent pic and video in low light conditions.
From what I understand with the pixel count being lower, this allows for more light to be picked up.
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They are bigger better pixels therefore more light and more detail captured per pixel .

Should i upgrade from my HTC One (M7)

Hi, i have a HTC One (m7) and was wondering if it is worth to upgrade to the LG G3

One word : Yes.

seboj said:
One word : Yes.
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i know all about the specs and I also own the LG G pad 8.3 (that I really like), but my bother was trying to get me to buy a Nexus 5

Coldheat1906 said:
i know all about the specs and I also own the LG G pad 8.3 (that I really like), but my bother was trying to get me to buy a Nexus 5
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The only reason to get the N5 over the G3 is if you absolutely have to have the fastest Android updates. Or the screen is too big. Or you only want to pay ~$300 for an off-contract phone.

Take it from someone who was in your exact shoes: yes. I had an HTC One XL, upgraded to a Dev Ed HTC One M7 when it came out and I loved it. I did. Screen was amazing. Phone felt great. And photos were pretty sweet (shameless plug: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lng0004/tags/htcone/). But then, when they announced the M8 which looked too similar with no big improvements to the camera, I decided to switch. My main interest was in a great camera sensor. So it was going to be either the Z2 or G3. G3 won me over with style.
After 6 days with the new G3, am I happy? Yup. It's still very much locked down. But after rooting, I was able to set up the phone to do (almost) all of what my HTC One was capable of. And the camera performs much better. Daytime photos actually look detailed and can be cropped without turning into one big mush. Oh, and the screen. Wow.
What I'm trying to say is, there's no reason not to upgrade.
PS: Get the G2 if you don't want to spend $600. Just as capable as the Nexus 5 with better camera and battery.

I used the M7 as my primary phone until I bought the G3 on Friday. I don't regret a thing. This phone is a beast.
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I can let you know on Thursday. I had a htc one but then switched to Verizon so I'm getting the g3
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I think your M7 is still amazing. The G3 is amazing too but some mind-boggling design elements detracts from the overall aesthetics of the phone. I mean, it has a sleek body with an amazing screen but marred by over-sharpening, poor UI colors, and badly designed icons. Come one! Cyan plus blue-gray in the UI? The over-sharpening of the display makes the fonts look weird and unbalanced (like a mixture of bold and thin weights). It also creates halos around texts. I would still prefer the HTC display quality.

I am not trying to defend the phone because everything you said is spot on and should have been fixed before its release. Definitely for us on the state side but if you are a flashaholic chances are after root and fingers crossed bootloader unlock for anyone not on tmobile stock problems wont bother you in the least. So I would say if you don't plan on being a power user with this phone skip on it until LG pulls it together.

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I think your M7 is still amazing. The G3 is amazing too but some mind-boggling design elements detracts from the overall aesthetics of the phone. I mean, it has a sleek body with an amazing screen but marred by over-sharpening, poor UI colors, and badly designed icons. Come one! Cyan plus blue-gray in the UI? The over-sharpening of the display makes the fonts look weird and unbalanced (like a mixture of bold and thin weights). It also creates halos around texts. I would still prefer the HTC display quality.
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You mentioned over-sharpening twice. That's because it's the only noticeable flaw of the phone. Everything else is subjective. I do agree that HTC's SLCDs are amazing though. Brighter than the G3. But everything that's good about the G3 makes it a great upgrade.

The main reason why I got the G3 over the M8 is because of the screen. It's practically the same physical size as the M8 but with a bigger screen.
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Coming from m8 I would say no unless you can do without custom roms and live with pretty awful lag on the phone. I went for the screen size and resolution can you tell the difference ow yes.
Camera is better and like the thin bezel but again I say the lag is the biggest disappointing point of out the phone.

riz157 said:
Coming from m8 I would say no unless you can do without custom roms and live with pretty awful lag on the phone. I went for the screen size and resolution can you tell the difference ow yes.
Camera is better and like the thin bezel but again I say the lag is the biggest disappointing point of out the phone.
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I don't experience any lag with my G3, and they are still working on unlocking the bootloader - I wouldn't count out the devs yet.

I had an M7 for 3 months and I traded it outright for a Galaxy S4. Aside from the unimpressive camera, the original HTC One had terrible cellular reception. This was confirmed by numerous people on the XDA forums and was likely due to the all-metal construction. Right away, I noticed a drastic improvement in my data speed and rarely experienced dropped calls, like I frequently had with the One. My new G3 actually has better reception than the GS4, so if you are considering an upgrade the LG phone's improved call and data quality should be cause enough.
Throw in a faster processor, MUCH better camera, replaceable battery and micro-SD card slot and it's a no-brainer.
It's really strange to me that phone reviewers never consider reception. They talk about the screen, processor speed, speakers, etc. but don't ever mention the phone's ability to send and receive calls.

Thanks everyone for the input, I actually went ahead and pulled the trigger...... I figured that I can give it a week trial to see if I like it.
So I went to Bestbuy and grabbed on..... Oddly I was still given the $50 in store gift card and the phone was only $50 + tax. That made my purchase even sweeter.
So far I really do like the screen size and the speed, it actually does seem faster then my HTC One (M7). The camera is extremely better and I actually liked my M7 camera. If all goes well this week I will give my son my M7 and keep the G3

[Q] Overheating

Does the HTC One M8 overheat much? Does it have any major glitches as well?

No and no

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No and no
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Is the camera that much worse than the S5 or is it overblown? Does it use much RAM either? I might switch to the HTC One M8 tomorrow.

If the camera is something you feel absolutely must have, stick with the S5. I LOVE my M8, but my Note 3 took so much better pictures.

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If the camera is something you feel absolutely must have, stick with the S5. I LOVE my M8, but my Note 3 took so much better pictures.
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I got overheatting issues with two S5s already. First one was worse. 165 degrees fahrenheit w/ 5-7 apps opened, some decent screen usage, and texting should not yield a high temp. One time, the overheating was caused by a T-Mobile diagnostic test and the screen wouldn't respond properly and the device crashed.

If you don't mind 4mp pictures the m8 camera is awesome. Low light pictures come out pretty good most of the time with little to no tweaking. Note3 took awesome well lit pictures. Low light sucked. Made the moto x seem like a professional camera in that regard and I do miss that from my x. S5 is probably the better all arounder picture taker but I got tired of touchwiz getting more and more complicated to tinker with. Knox didn't help either. I look forward to android L in lots of ways, including imaging, but OTOH I am worried about how hardcore google will implement selinux and security. As long as OEM's and google keep coming with phones that have unlockable bootloaders I'll be good.
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I got overheatting issues with two S5s already. First one was worse. 165 degrees fahrenheit w/ 5-7 apps opened, some decent screen usage, and texting should not yield a high temp. One time, the overheating was caused by a T-Mobile diagnostic test and the screen wouldn't respond properly and the device crashed.
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Forgot about that part. No this is the coolest running phone I've ever had the pleasure of owning.
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If you don't mind 4mp pictures the m8 camera is awesome. Low light pictures come out pretty good most of the time with little to no tweaking. Note3 took awesome well lit pictures. Low light sucked. Made the moto x seem like a professional camera in that regard and I do miss that from my x. S5 is probably the better all arounder picture taker but I got tired of touchwiz getting more and more complicated to tinker with. Knox didn't help either. I look forward to android L in lots of ways, including imaging, but OTOH I am worried about how hardcore google will implement selinux and security. As long as OEM's and google keep coming with phones that have unlockable bootloaders I'll be good.
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You switched from the Note 3 and S5 to the HTC One M8?

Coolest running phone I have ever used, even when running GPS or a graphical game the phone only barely gets warm. Very efficient phone, not much battery energy is wasted.

After furthering thinking, I will stick with my Galaxy S5 and find ways to minimize the heat since one of my best friends and my dad have problems with their heating at times on Galaxies. I also want the waterproofing, nicer display, finger print scanner, and galaxy software to work w/ my gear.

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You switched from the Note 3 and S5 to the HTC One M8?
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Nope. Sold moto x. Still have note3.

Okay guys, I switched to the HTC One M8 since T-Mobile told me they will waive the restocking fee by crediting me back, but that's a long story and battle I have to fight to get my $50 back.

Why is this phone so underrated ?

I got an HTC 10 a couple of days ago after my sister bought my nexus 6p from me, I got it thinking about getting a 2016 nexus once it gets released in Germany (usually a couplw of months after the US's release ) but now I'm thinking of keeping it.
Why is the phone so underrated? It feels noticeably faster that the Galaxy Note 7 for example and it looks way nicer than Samsung's new ui .
I still think the nexus 6p takes better pictures, but the HTC 10 runs circles on it when it comes to speed, the difference is very noticeably.
HTC can't really compete with companies like oneplus 3 I know this, but 700 euros is outrageous, with 500 they may have had a chance.
Why would anyone choose the HTC 10 instead of galaxy, which looks fancier and takes better pictures and costs the same?
Nevertheless in my opinion is the most balanced on the market right now, it didn't deserve to fail so bad.
I don't want HTC filing for bankruptcy, they build amazing , yes the 10 is on the too chunky side , but it feels sturdy.
What do you think ? Does HTC have a chance of making a comeback ?
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HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.

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I got an HTC 10 a couple of days ago after my sister bought my nexus 6p from me, I got it thinking about getting a 2016 nexus once it gets released in Germany (usually a couplw of months after the US's release ) but now I'm thinking of keeping it.
Why is the phone so underrated? It feels noticeably faster that the Galaxy Note 7 for example and it looks way nicer than Samsung's new ui .
I still think the nexus 6p takes better pictures, but the HTC 10 runs circles on it when it comes to speed, the difference is very noticeably.
HTC can't really compete with companies like oneplus 3 I know this, but 700 euros is outrageous, with 500 they may have had a chance.
Why would anyone choose the HTC 10 instead of galaxy, which looks fancier and takes better pictures and costs the same?
Nevertheless in my opinion is the most balanced on the market right now, it didn't deserve to fail so bad.
I don't want HTC filing for bankruptcy, they build amazing , yes the 10 is on the too chunky side , but it feels sturdy.
What do you think ? Does HTC have a chance of making a comeback ?
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I chose the 10 because of it's build quality, close-to-nexus feel, speed, camera, audio and more. In essence, I chose it because it was the best device that fits my needs. Not everyone has the same taste and also marketing plays a crucial role in product exposure to the popular. Product popularity doesn't affect user experience so I could care less if I own a product nobody has or likes, or how it's company is doing, this device is perfect for me.
If I wanted to buy into popularity and mainstrean, I'd have an iPhone and beats headphones.
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I don't mind that it is underrated, didn't or wouldn't matter to me. i like HTC. I don't have any of the problems some people have, call me lucky but not one HTC phone I ever had(I had them all, EVO, EVO3D, ONE M8, M9 and 10). WiFI works, speakers are good( I don't see my phone as a boombox), Sprint signal is sometimes spotty( that's Sprint). Camera is great(it's not a Nikon DSLR). As far bulky, I think the S7 Edge is bulkier. The 10 has been the best phone yet and yes I had the M8. I have no complaints.

Best phone out there for me and I've tried just about everything. Also nice to have a rare phone for a change
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@EtherealRemnant My phone is perfect in every way. No wifi, data, sound or screen issues at all. Why didn't you take yours back? Im also getting over 5hrs screen on time so battery is perfect for me. 2% drain overnight with wifi on.

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HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.
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I'm shocked to see how many people care about the speakers, I'll take smaller bezels any day, I use my headphones 98% of the time and keep my phone silent all the time, I only use the speakers when I want to show a friend a video.
My device has a yellow tone area around the the lower part of the screen I'm gonna get it exchanged.
I would be all over a 5.5" HTC 10 , I know the new nexus is going to have a 5.5"acreen but with the trademark big HTC bezels +on screen buttons you end loosing 30-35% of the screen state, which is a big no. I miss the days of the nexus 5/6 and LG G2 bezels
I'd have a Galaxy Note 7 but I've burned by touchwiz all too many times, I have to stay strong this time!!
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I chose the 10 because of it's build quality, close-to-nexus feel, speed, camera, audio and more. In essence, I chose it because it was the best device that fits my needs. Not everyone has the same taste and also marketing plays a crucial role in product exposure to the popular. Product popularity doesn't affect user experience so I could care less if I own a product nobody has or likes, or how it's company is doing, this device is perfect for me.
If I wanted to buy into popularity and mainstrean, I'd have an iPhone and beats headphones.
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I always root for my favorite companies, also if a device sells well it's in the best interest of the manufacturer to update it quick and keep it working hassle free
schmeggy929 said:
As far bulky, I think the S7 Edge is bulkier. The 10 has been the best phone yet and yes I had the M8. I have no complaints.
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In which way do you find it bulkier? Yes it's a bit taller and wider but it's nice , the screen is noticeably bigger , and nevertheless is a couple of grams lighter

I played with both HTC 10 and S7 Edge for a couple of days and i chose HTC 10. Yes S7 Edge Camera seem slightly better but if you learn how to use HTC 10's Camera, It takes photos and records videos good enough i would expect from a Phone. Was a pre-order which means I've been with it for quite some time and I have never ever experienced any problems like i've just read here. I give it a 5 Star

I just cancelled my order for a Note 7 to buy the HTC 10 instead. At first, it seemed like the Canadian Note 7's bootloader would be unlocked, but it isn't. The 10 is a better choice when it comes to customization and long term 3rd party support, software-wise. And it seems built a lot more durably that the Note 7. I had thought of getting one in the past, but 32 GB is very small (even 64 GB is too small for me). With an SD card, I'll do alright, thought.
As for how underrated the phone is... Good question. Part of why I had passed on it before was the small internal capacity and the high price compared to other phones. There are many phones that have similar specs but are less expensive. But I think that when it all comes down to it, the 10 is a very good quality phone, and it's more than just its specs. As for its problems, worst comes to worst, it can be exchanged.

not underrated at all....
no advertisements as usual.....
priced a little high(paid around 690USD as mine is standalone ) with less of open source so most of them are staying away from it...
very few carriers are giving it out on monthly installments....

SacredDeviL666 said:
not underrated at all....
no advertisements as usual.....
priced a little high(paid around 690USD as mine is standalone ) with less of open source so most of them are staying away from it...
very few carriers are giving it out on monthly installments....
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Here in AUS every carrier has the htc 10. But you are right i haven't seen 1 advertisement about it.

Htc never seems to advertise anymore. I remember when the evo came out, every other commercial was about it. Got me to buy one, lol.

I don't know why, either. But I don't care. The only issue I've had with mine is the screen tint, but it's gotten better with time and I honestly don't notice it anymore. It's hands down my favorite phone I've ever owned. I was thinking of the Note 7, too, but it's not an option because of the locked bootloader.

I'm not sure it is underrated ? Every review i've seen more or less says great phone, maybe one of the best on the market, I don't think HTC have a bad rep either do they ? Every HTC i've had just keeps on working and i would argue 18months down the line they work better than most.. In work we use Samsung notes and they are painful to use in comparison I can't stand touchwiz (although the actual note taking part with the S-Pen is excellent) .. I pre-ordered the 10 also, love it no regrets actually due an upgrade and not bothering until maybe lured by a nexus and a 5.5" screen...

I notice a lot of HTC haters posting lot of bad feedbacks on this great device... Besides too few ads seen on tv and a higher price when launching the product.

Cost has a lot to do with it, while I feel it's worth it at $600 USD (which is what I got it for) anything more than that and I wouldn't have gotten it. While it's a great phone, it's hard to lay down that kind of money for anything.

There are many phones over $600. In fact, some phones, specifically the 6S plus and the note 7 costs north of $800.
I'm not sure why the 10 alone gets bashed when there are phones out there hundreds of dollars more. Some are willing to pay a certain price to enjoy something. Saying X should be X amount is an opinion and is no different than saying that paying $200 for jeans makes no sense when you can buy some for $20 or even less.
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EtherealRemnant said:
HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.
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so disagree I had the S6 Edge because the M9 was too much like the M8 then I moved to the S7 edge, both of these phones were great but I couldn't fathom why I wasn't taken by them like I have been with all the HTC's I've owned and I've certainly owned a few. Then I bought the HTC10 and immediately sold the S7 edge. The HTC is faster, the signal at work is 4G on my S7 is was on Edge around most of the building, the music player has clarity and isn't oversaturated with bass like the Samsung's, the UI is more usable, especially the dialler which on the Samsung was a real frustration (coming up for air..................) I love the ice view which has so much more potential, the speakers are actually better balanced and give a clearer sound than p[previous incarnations and I actually use it more than I did the M8 boomsound, and I've got to say when I put my Bose headphones on this fantastic phone it sounds like nothing I have heard before, not to mention the customisation option this device has compared to the S7, S6.
The Samsung has a better camera and marginally better screen, the OLED screen is something the HTC 10 could have utilised for the ice view screen, the slo mo on the s7 is awesome (although I have not really tested the HTC slo mo or hyperlapse as yet) and the phone is really stylish and I'm afraid much like sex sells style does to, that's why Samsung sells so many phone despite all the superficial features on the s7.

Price new is to high. Picked one up on swappa for a decent price. wifi was kind of weak it seemed. Changed my setting from auto to 2.4 and turned off wifi calling which I don't need and wifi is good now. Phone signal is low it seems , but call quality is stellar and also very good . Never dropped a call yet.
I like HTC products and have had many, really like the 10 a lot. Build quality is excellent and the speakers while not loud sound nice and rich. Glad I picked it up.

There's not a lot i would change about the phone , an amoled screen , smaller bezels and 8 mm would have been nice and of course.... The price the htc 10 right is more expensive than the galaxy s7 edge and even more expensive than the galaxy s7 :/only geeks like us /HTC fans would choose it over those phones
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