I'd like to root...and i'll likely need recovery as well...so, to Lollipoop or not to lollipoop? Should i take the OTA update? Or should i root and TWRP to backup KK? Someone mentioned in one of their roms that you needed the lollipop bootloader to install their rom. I'm used to the eee pad transformer and Nexus 7 where you could be bootloader-unconcious. Not used to this BL sort of thing.
For now i'll probably stick to the stock rom.
For bonus kudos: Why don't i see OTA .zips for install in TWRP? Whenever there was an OTA for my other devices, shortly after the update was released, .zip files were made available and again, no need to worry about the BL. What makes this device different? Is running a KK rom after updating the BL to Lollipop possible?
You can run a kitkat Rom with a lollipop bootloader, they are backwards compatible, but not the other way around.
You keep asking about rooting and recovery, already I gave you a link for that. Just read that thread.
My advice is to install it, then immediately do a full backup of your kitkat system before upgrading to lolliop.
To upgrade to lollipop read the lollipop thread and DONT skim read it. There is important info that you WILL need.
If you don't like it simply restore your TWRP backup.
Also note that anything custom that you flash to your device will trip the Knox bit and void your warranty.
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My galaxy siii was rooted before kitkat was out, and I have been using it until now and have not yet update to KitKat yet because AT&T is not part of it any more.
How do I get KitKat on my phone? Do I have to unroot the phone and put it back into AT&T mode to download or what should I do?
this might help.
remember:READREADREAD
BACKUPBACKUPBACKUP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160
good luck
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You will need to unroot your phone and have the stock recovery.
Thank you for both replies gentleman
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You will need to unroot your phone and have the stock recovery.
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I might add to this...if you removed any stock carrier or vendor apps from 4.3 while being rooted...you'll have to restore them via a Titamium Backup or some other way or the OTA update will not install properly. (I realized that the OTA update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 will patch these apps to update them to 4.4.2 compatibility)
If you can't do that or if its unreasonable to do that based on the way the phone was modified while rooted...I suggest flashing the stock 4.3 rom via Odin and then take the OTA.
Id recommend flashing the 4.3 firmware via Odin to begin with. Its starting to seem like a lot of people who even just have to unroot are having problems with the ota. I think Odin flashing stock 4.3 will give the best chance of a successful update.
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I might add to this...if you removed any stock carrier or vendor apps from 4.3 while being rooted...you'll have to restore them via a Titamium Backup or some other way or the OTA update will not install properly. (I realized that the OTA update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 will patch these apps to update them to 4.4.2 compatibility)
If you can't do that or if its unreasonable to do that based on the way the phone was modified while rooted...I suggest flashing the stock 4.3 rom via Odin and then take the OTA.
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I am having this issue. I rooted on 4.3 and removed Google books and newsstand. I then uprooted and did a factory reset , so everything in download mode says "official" but the apps were still missing so I downloaded them from the play store. My question is will this let me get the OTA now or do I have to push the apps to the /system directory somehow? Also if I flash the 4.3 ODIN tar file, will it trip my warranty bit? It's at 0 right now and want to keep it that way until my warranty is up.
The firmware shouldn't trip the bit, but I can't promise that. Im sure its confirmed one way or the other in its thread though.
As for those apps, they'd have to be system apps, so just installing normally won't help. More importantly though, they would also need to be the same version that was originally built into the firmware. The apps you mentioned have seen many updates and using the current versions will not work.
I got the phone 2 weeks ago and it came with 4.3 installed on it. Would I be able to use the current version and just push them to /system/app with titanium backup? I am trying to get the OTA without tripping any warranty or security measures.
Newbie to rooting.
I'm gonna be exact with what I have.
Stock 4.4.2 (Lollipop available but I don't wanna get stuck in TWRP with an OTA)
TWRP Installed
Rooted G3.
NO, I REPEAT NO CUSTOM ROMS OR FRAMEWORKS.
I'm afraid T Mobile will force me the Lollipop update someday, and if it does, I will always boot into TWRP because TWRP doesn't work with OTA updates.
So... Here is what I want to do... In the easiest way possible.
I want to get TWRP off my phone, unroot my phone, so I can install Official 5.0
OR.... Is there a flashable OFFICIAL Lollipop G3 Zip I can flash using TWRP?
Please be patient with me, I may very well have future questions on this thread. Thanks a lot guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/firmware-t-mobile-lg-g3-t2818667
Is that not where you should be?
G3Andrew said:
Newbie to rooting.
I'm gonna be exact with what I have.
Stock 4.4.2 (Lollipop available but I don't wanna get stuck in TWRP with an OTA)
TWRP Installed
Rooted G3.
NO, I REPEAT NO CUSTOM ROMS OR FRAMEWORKS.
I'm afraid T Mobile will force me the Lollipop update someday, and if it does, I will always boot into TWRP because TWRP doesn't work with OTA updates.
So... Here is what I want to do... In the easiest way possible.
I want to get TWRP off my phone, unroot my phone, so I can install Official 5.0
OR.... Is there a flashable OFFICIAL Lollipop G3 Zip I can flash using TWRP?
Please be patient with me, I may very well have future questions on this thread. Thanks a lot guys.
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Follow the instructions in this thread to flash the update in TWRP. It's what I did and I dirty flashed without doing a factory reset in birh my wife's and my phone and everything works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3062164
Download the kdz and do a clean flash. After that do a factory reset then root and install twrp. You can block lg updates with titanium backup
Hey everyone,
I've been curious about upgrading my rooted Note 4 from Lollipop 5.0.1 to a custom rom in 5.1.1, but I don't want to take a risk and brick my phone because I didn't know what I was doing. I'm not sure what steps to get to 5.1.1 and I know for a fact that if I attempt to install a 5.1.1 rom onto a 5.0.1, I am sure that I'll run into some issues.
Can anyone assist me in getting to 5.1.1? I'm not too sure of the terminology, all I know is that I'm on an OB7.
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Hey everyone,
I've been curious about upgrading my rooted Note 4 from Lollipop 5.0.1 to a custom rom in 5.1.1, but I don't want to take a risk and brick my phone because I didn't know what I was doing. I'm not sure what steps to get to 5.1.1 and I know for a fact that if I attempt to install a 5.1.1 rom onto a 5.0.1, I am sure that I'll run into some issues.
Can anyone assist me in getting to 5.1.1? I'm not too sure of the terminology, all I know is that I'm on an OB7.
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Id download the latest noterized (from Android Development) and put that zip on your sd card.
Go to recovery and make a backup.
While in recovery go to wipe, advanced and wipe everything x3 except for Micro SD
Then go to install and flash the noterized zip file.
An Unlocked bootloader is such a terrible thing to waste.
If you dont like it, all you have to do is repeat the wiping procedures in recovery and restore backup.
Or beforehand, if you run into some bumps, use the search feature while in that thread to see if any problems youre running into have already been asked and answered.
Glad you brought that up, i meant to mention that also @ the loss of xposed on 5.1.1
You have a phone that some would rather have than one they have if the bootloader is OB7. If that is the last full update you took, it should be OB7.
If Xposed framework and modules or staying on an unlocked bootloader that allows downgrade to KitKat isn't your thing, the full update to OG5 would be OK to flash to reactivation locked bootloader. (If true, skip next paragraph)
If keeping the OB7 bootloader, there are two recommended methods to update to OG5 while retaining OB7 bootloader. One is to flash the OG5 modem then flash a OG5 ROM. See freeza ROM OP in development for his modem, kernel and ROMs for OG5. The second method is to Odin the OB7 to OG5 tar ball by tx_dbs_tx in development. Follow the OPs for instructions.
There's a guide if you just want to upgrade and root OG5. If it's a custom OG5 ROM you're looking for, you can just do the Odin flash OF5 stock tar and custom recovery. In recovery, flash a pre-rooted OG5 ROM. I'd suggest a clean install with either method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62241991&postcount=56
Edit: one last comment. If you do want Xposed, it's not yet available for TW 5.1.1
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xxSTARBUCKSxx said:
Id download the latest noterized (from Android Development) and put that zip on your sd card.
Go to recovery and make a backup.
While in recovery go to wipe, advanced and wipe everything x3 except for Micro SD
Then go to install and flash the noterized zip file.
An Unlocked bootloader is such a terrible thing to waste.
If you dont like it, all you have to do is repeat the wiping procedures in recovery and restore backup.
Or beforehand, if you run into some bumps, use the search feature while in that thread to see if any problems youre running into have already been asked and answered.
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Good advice. Posted while I was thinking somewhat on the same point of view regarding OB7.
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So I'm guessing once when I upgrade to OG5 I'm taking away the unlocked bootloader feature? What is OG5 technically doing to the Note 4?
GreenFire999 said:
So I'm guessing once when I upgrade to OG5 I'm taking away the unlocked bootloader feature? What is OG5 technically doing to the Note 4?
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Reactivation lock is a theft preventative mandate. If you set it, a password is required to overwrite your locked device and account. A would be thief wouldn't be able to unlock it or flash it to become the new owner. He would brick it trying. Am I wrong? I still haven't adopted the new bootloader to see any of this first hand.
The lesser security bootloaders are blocked to Odin. Updating means you can't go back to OB7 or KitKat complete tars. Noterized can be flashed because it doesn't attempt to make your device fully compatible with OB7. But that's not making an OG5 reactivation bootloader compatible with OB7 ROMs to freely flash at will. Semi bricking occurs when users try to flash full tars or go back to KitKat. Some even make the mistake of thinking going to Noterized frees them to flash other ROMs and tars that they shouldn't. Despite some claims of success, no history of a proven method exists outside of wasted time and confusion and bricks some users couldn't figure out even with help given.
I haven't been on a reactivation bootloader but going by claims of others and reading, it appears to be something new each update. OE1 didn't get a tar so users that rooted were stuck until OF5 official tar was released. When OG5 came out, some posted OF5 backups were not flashing. OG5 also blocks root by the traditional CFAutoRoot used in prior updates for KitKat and Lollipop. It takes the exploit of kernel plus SuperSU zip to root OG5.
All this has brought the added wait until development catches up concept to update prior to taking something like an OTA if you value root. And some have reported rooting has even defeated the ability to take OTA updates as well. Add to the the latest claim that the stock OG5 kernel is required in order to Odin a fresh OG5 tar over rooted OG5 means you have to be up on current events to avoid boot loops on OG5.
No Xposed on TW 5.1.1 means I'm staying away a little longer.
Got all that? Some of it is just theory. The guide I referenced earlier also had some more advice for OG5. I believe it's as short but exhaustive as possible in a single post. It's important for newcomers to make informed decisions. Best wishes on making the right one for you. Personally, I'm on OB7 deodexed for Xposed Lollipop and Wi-Fi Calling. I chose to stay with lollipop because Wi-Fi Calling is not very good on KitKat. Otherwise, KitKat is very good but development is following the recent updates.
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samep said:
Reactivation lock is a theft preventative mandate. If you set it, a password is required to overwrite your locked device and account. A would be thief wouldn't be able to unlock it or flash it to become the new owner. He would brick it trying. Am I wrong? I still haven't adopted the new bootloader to see any of this first hand.
The lesser security bootloaders are blocked to Odin. Updating means you can't go back to OB7 or KitKat complete tars. Noterized can be flashed because it doesn't attempt to make your device fully compatible with OB7. But that's not making an OG5 reactivation bootloader compatible with OB7 ROMs to freely flash at will. Semi bricking occurs when users try to flash full tars or go back to KitKat. Some even make the mistake of thinking going to Noterized frees them to flash other ROMs and tars that they shouldn't. Despite some claims of success, no history of a proven method exists outside of wasted time and confusion and bricks some users couldn't figure out even with help given.
I haven't been on a reactivation bootloader but going by claims of others and reading, it appears to be something new each update. OE1 didn't get a tar so users that rooted were stuck until OF5 official tar was released. When OG5 came out, some posted OF5 backups were not flashing. OG5 also blocks root by the traditional CFAutoRoot used in prior updates for KitKat and Lollipop. It takes the exploit of kernel plus SuperSU zip to root OG5.
All this has brought the added wait until development catches up concept to update prior to taking something like an OTA if you value root. And some have reported rooting has even defeated the ability to take OTA updates as well. Add to the the latest claim that the stock OG5 kernel is required in order to Odin a fresh OG5 tar over rooted OG5 means you have to be up on current events to avoid boot loops on OG5.
No Xposed on TW 5.1.1 means I'm staying away a little longer.
Got all that? Some of it is just theory. The guide I referenced earlier also had some more advice for OG5. I believe it's as short but exhaustive as possible in a single post. It's important for newcomers to make informed decisions. Best wishes on making the right one for you. Personally, I'm on OB7 deodexed for Xposed Lollipop. I chose to stay with lollipop because it's not very good on KitKat. Otherwise, KitKat is very good but development is following the recent updates.
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Thank you for the great description. I think I will stick with OB7 a little longer until I find a better reason to change to OG5. Sounds like it would be more of a hassle trying to troubleshoot on OG5 if I do screw something up. I might just go down your route and pick up Xposed to see where that takes me.
GreenFire999 said:
Thank you for the great description. I think I will stick with OB7 a little longer until I find a better reason to change to OG5. Sounds like it would be more of a hassle trying to troubleshoot on OG5 if I do screw something up. I might just go down your route and pick up Xposed to see where that takes me.
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For TW Lollipop, you'll need a deodexed ROM for Xposed framework.
Stable using official alpha 3 v4
xposed-v65-sdk21-arm-arter97-V5-krait.ziphttp://forum.xda-developers.com/show...20&postcount=1
arter97-V6 for Xposed-v71 is available but I haven't tried it. There are reports of boot loops on various devices; IDK if anyone else has had success with this phone yet? I'd suggest what's stable until you know otherwise.
Install Xposed Installer as sideload. (Install browsing to it with a root browser and tap file, selecting install.) Flash the arter zip in recovery. Initial boot after flash and the framework should be installed and ready for adding modules. Reboot to apply modules.
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Tired of waiting for the MM OTA, I decided to convert my HTC M8 to developer edition.
I've already unlock/root/custom recovery and i got stuck at the s-off. I found out that i need to pay for that and I decided to stop my journey.
Now I'm thinking of flashing a 6.0 MM custom rom based. My question is : What should I do before I flash any custom ROM?
I'm thinking to go back to stock soon and I don't want to mess it up forgeting something.
You need an unlocked bootloader
You need latest lollipop firmware at least when there is no MM firmware yet for your device version - it is a 4.xx.xxx.x firmware
You need to install TWRP 2.8.7.0
You need to install custom ROM (either lollipop or MM base)
Thanks but I think you misunderstand me.
My HTC is already prepared to flash custom rom. I was wondering if i need something to do before i flash my first custom. Something that will help me to go back to stock when i need it.
Make a non-rooted nandroid of your stock ROM. You need it to revert to stock for future OTA or simply back to stock reason.
If you not yet done it, seems it is too late for you because you already root your stock ROM as stated on post #1.
Check my thread link in my signature to see whether there is one non-rooted backup for you.
Yeah, I've already root it
But I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618.
I think maybe this will help me .
Your thread help me too.
Thanks
Err... that link is for M7 ... don't know whether that helps.
So the story is about 9 months ago my Galaxy note 4's USB port got messed up. I cannot charge my phone without using an external battery cradle, nor can I connect my phone to computer and sync/odin. I am stuck on a rooted BOB7 rom specifically the noterized rom stable 3. I know I cannot jump from BOB7 to COK1 etc... via flashing. I was wondering if the jump to marshmallow from lollipop would work.
Hmmm. let's see. I think you might be in a bad situation. You can't install ota updates if you're rooted and/or have a custom recovery. So those are the two biggest hurdles. You can use supersu to unroot so do that first. Next you will need to see if you can get a flashable stock OB7 recovery and flash it. Another thing that may be a problem is the debloated rom you're currently running. That may or may not cause problems with downloading and installing the ota's. I can make a flashable zip for you for the stock recovery but you first will need to download and flash my stock OB7 rom. Look for it here in the Sprint N4 forums.
Steps to success:
1. Download and flash stock rooted OB7 rom.
2. Use SuperSu app to unroot and uninstall supersu
3. Find a flashable stock OB7 recovery (I will provide if needed)
4. Do a factory reset by rebooting to the stock recovery
5. Once phone boots up, setup accounts, etc per usual and go to settings/system update and check for updates.
6. Let the update download and try to install it. You should have success. If it is successful then follow update instructions and once your phone is fully updated then you should check for updates again until you are fully updated to the latest MM 6.0 ota.
PM me if you need a flashable stock OB7 recovery or other help.
Good luck.
Thank you
Thank you very much tx_dbs_tx, you are a life saver! I have been stuck for the past 9 months.
tx_dbs_tx said:
Hmmm. let's see. I think you might be in a bad situation. You can't install ota updates if you're rooted and/or have a custom recovery. So those are the two biggest hurdles. You can use supersu to unroot so do that first. Next you will need to see if you can get a flashable stock OB7 recovery and flash it. Another thing that may be a problem is the debloated rom you're currently running. That may or may not cause problems with downloading and installing the ota's. I can make a flashable zip for you for the stock recovery but you first will need to download and flash my stock OB7 rom. Look for it here in the Sprint N4 forums.
Steps to success:
1. Download and flash stock rooted OB7 rom.
2. Use SuperSu app to unroot and uninstall supersu
3. Find a flashable stock OB7 recovery (I will provide if needed)
4. Do a factory reset by rebooting to the stock recovery
5. Once phone boots up, setup accounts, etc per usual and go to settings/system update and check for updates.
6. Let the update download and try to install it. You should have success. If it is successful then follow update instructions and once your phone is fully updated then you should check for updates again until you are fully updated to the latest MM 6.0 ota.
PM me if you need a flashable stock OB7 recovery or other help.
Good luck.
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Is there a chance of doing the same on OG5? Using OBAR
So i am on bob7. I know a long time ago i did not uograde for a reason (dunno what that reason was now though).. so my question now is. . Is there a reason to upgrade or a reason NOT to upgrade to MM?
cheryl
Can someone confirm with me, that sending picture messages won't go through. Or is it just me?
cherylbaker said:
So i am on bob7. I know a long time ago i did not uograde for a reason (dunno what that reason was now though).. so my question now is. . Is there a reason to upgrade or a reason NOT to upgrade to MM?
cheryl
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Sorry for the late reply Cheryl. There is no reason not to update your software to Marshmallow 6.0. Typically updates bring improved performance and battery life as well as other software optimizations which are always better than previous software builds. You should backup your photo's etc before installing any update just in case. If you're one of those who doesn't like change and is content with your phone with it's current software then you don't have to update the software as long as there isn't a critical update that would prevent something from working on your phone unless you take the update. If everything works and your happy then you can leave it as is. But if you are interested in improved battery life and overall performance as well as new security features and policies of android, then by all means update your software the first chance you get. there are no drawbacks that i have noticed or read from any other users. Marshmallow is a go! :good:
cherylbaker said:
So i am on bob7. I know a long time ago i did not uograde for a reason (dunno what that reason was now though).. so my question now is. . Is there a reason to upgrade or a reason NOT to upgrade to MM?
cheryl
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OB7 is the newest bootloader that can be downgraded to kitkat.
on kitkat it's a lot easier to retrieve your MSL number, and at the time there was no xposed for Samsung lolly
Sterist said:
OB7 is the newest bootloader that can be downgraded to kitkat.
on kitkat it's a lot easier to retrieve your MSL number, and at the time there was no xposed for Samsung lolly
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So that was it. You cannot downgrade to kk? I am sure at the time that was important but i havnt had any interest in downgrading b4 so doubt i will now. I know bob7 was the most popular for roms at the time also but honestly i am past my flashaholic phase and just want to havebrhe best phone i can.
Is there hot spot and root for mm? Hotspot is probably the only thing i really care about and even that isn't as important these days
cheryl
cherylbaker said:
So that was it. You cannot downgrade to kk? I am sure at the time that was important but i havnt had any interest in downgrading b4 so doubt i will now. I know bob7 was the most popular for roms at the time also but honestly i am past my flashaholic phase and just want to havebrhe best phone i can.
Is there hot spot and root for mm? Hotspot is probably the only thing i really care about and even that isn't as important these days
cheryl
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if you don't have your MSL, and don't know where to find/how to get Galaxy Tools, and you still have a while left on contract, it wouldn't hurt to downgrade and grab your MSL first then jump straight to MM
Does anyone have a link to a stock OB7 recovery? All that I find are the odin variants.
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Does anyone have a link to a stock OB7 recovery? All that I find are the odin variants.
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I don't know how to extract it from a .tar but I know it can be acquired it like this:
1. full backup in TWRP
2. copy the backup to pc for safekeeping
3. odin full OB7 stock tar
4. without flashing TWRP, root using CF auto root*
5. install Flashify from Google Play
6. backup recovery
7. copy the backup to pc for uploading
*I don't know which version (if applicable) as I never use that method to root. sorry
obviously you wouldn't be able to do this yourself, you would need someone on the forum with OB7 bootloader to do this, and honestly, without knowing how to extract / find it in the.tar I still think that would take a lot less time and effort than this method lol