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Issues Between S-On S-Off And AAHK on the top of the bootlader

Hello Everyone
i wanna know, what's the diference between S-on, S-Off and AAHK ( I Have the AAHK in the bootloader,)
Hope something can answer my Question!
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manuelchef89 said:
Hello Everyone
i wanna know, what's the diference between S-on, S-Off and AAHK ( I Have the AAHK in the bootloader,)
Hope something can answer my Question!
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S-On: security on. Can be locked, unlocked, relocked, or unlockable depending on bootloader version and current/previous lock state. If unlocked, can flash ROMs but requires flashing boot.img from fastboot each time you flash a new ROM zip. Even if unlocked, cannot flash radios. Even if unlocked, may not be able to flash ported ROMs.
S-Off: security off. Can flash anything: radios, ported ROMs, and zips (without fastboot flashing boot.imgs).
AAHK: a tool once used for getting S-Off. Now retired. If your bootloader says AAHK you probably have S-Off.

HTC one m8 s-OFF

I want to S-OFF my HTC m8 European version 4.16.401.10 lollipop 5.0.1
It's locked and not rooted
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
I can use kit Kat way to S-OFF or there is anew for lollipop
Thank you
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KARIM9377 said:
I want to S-OFF my HTC m8 European version 4.16.401.10 lollipop 5.0.1
It's locked and not rooted
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
I can use kit Kat way to S-OFF or there is anew for lollipop
Thank you
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The only way to S-OFF is to use SunShine @ http://theroot.ninja which will cost $25 respectively.

KARIM9377 said:
What I want S-OFF and relocked the boot loader as locked and flash TWRP
and custom Rom so I can back to get OTA update from HTC any time I want
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Its not clear to me why you want s-off.
You only need stock ROM (no system files altered by root) and stock recovery to OTA. Relocking bootloader is not necessary. Its only necessary to relock bootloader to RUU (when s-on).

Sunshine doesn't work with Lollipop (yet) but keep checking their website for updates

EddyOS said:
Sunshine doesn't work with Lollipop (yet) but keep checking their website for updates
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Yes I don't want to use sunshine, If there is away like firewater with kitKat use fast boot terminal/command* it was like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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Firewater doesn't work AT ALL, Sunshine is the ONLY way to S-OFF a phone but it's not compatible with Lollipop

KARIM9377 said:
Yes I don't want to use sunshine, If there is away like firewater with kitKat use fast boot terminal/command* it was like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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firewater was an online service. So it no longer works now that the developer stopped supporting it 3 months ago.
But I'm still not convinced you even need s-off. You haven't provided a valid reason that required s-off.
If you do need soff, you need to use sunshine. There is no other option to s-off.

redpoint73 said:
firewater was an online service. So it no longer works now that the developer stopped supporting it 3 months ago.
But I'm still not convinced you even need s-off. You haven't provided a valid reason that required s-off.
If you do need soff, you need to use sunshine. There is no other option to s-off.
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The S-OFF it's more save to get back to locked on boot loader and with that you can get OTA UPDATE from HTC what I hope is to try flash viperM8 Rom and try it and then try sky Rom and see if I don't like them can back to stack with S-OFF
maybe I am wrong I don't know if
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KARIM9377 said:
The S-OFF it's more save to get back to locked on boot loader and with that you can get OTA UPDATE from HTC what I hope is to try flash viperM8 Rom and try it and then try sky Rom and see if I don't like them can back to stack with S-OFF
maybe I am wrong I don't know if
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As I already stated above, you do not need to lock the bootloader to OTA update, and you do not need s-off to OTA update. OTA update works fine with bootloader unlocked or otherwise.
You also do not need s-off to go back to stock. Just made a nandroid (or get one from the nandroid collection here) to restore stock ROM, and restore stock recovery (also in the collection).
With s-off you can make the bootloader say LOCKED instead of RELOCKED. But warranty service is typically the only time that is desired.
Yes, s-off will give you more recovery options. Such as being able to run RUU for any CID, or "downgrade" by RUU. And it lets you do things like flash radios or modified hboots. But of the things you mentioned, its not needed.

redpoint73 said:
As I already stated above, you do not need to lock the bootloader to OTA update, and you do not need s-off to OTA update. OTA update works fine with bootloader unlocked or otherwise.
You also do not need s-off to go back to stock. Just made a nandroid (or get one from the nandroid collection here) to restore stock ROM, and restore stock recovery (also in the collection).
With s-off you can make the bootloader say LOCKED instead of RELOCKED. But warranty service is typically the only time that is desired.
Yes, s-off will give you more recovery options. Such as being able to run RUU for any CID, or "downgrade" by RUU. And it lets you do things like flash radios or modified hboots. But of the things you mentioned, its not needed.
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Thank you for your advice I will root and flash TWRP recovery and backup the stack Rom and then flash custom Rom
Thank you for your help
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Hi @redpoint73 can i ask you a question ?
I bought a second hand M8 and it already had S-OFF via sunshine.When i entered bootloader it says : Software status : Modified , (bootloader) UNLOCKED and S-OFF.
I asked the seller for the "unlock_code.bin" and he said that didn't have any.He said he simply ran sunshine to S-OFF.Didn't modified further.No custom recovery no root (although sunshine temp roots) no custom ROM.
So my question is this : performing S-OFF via sunshine will auto unlock your bootloader and say Software status : Modified ?

nighthawk696969 said:
Hi @redpoint73 can i ask you a question ?
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Of course, that's what this forum section if for!
nighthawk696969 said:
I bought a second hand M8 and it already had S-OFF via sunshine.When i entered bootloader it says : Software status : Modified , (bootloader) UNLOCKED and S-OFF.
I asked the seller for the "unlock_code.bin" and he said that didn't have any.He said he simply ran sunshine to S-OFF.Didn't modified further.No custom recovery no root (although sunshine temp roots) no custom ROM.
So my question is this : performing S-OFF via sunshine will auto unlock your bootloader and say Software status : Modified ?
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I actually did s-off back when firewater was still working, before sunshine even existed. So I can't speak from personal experience, just what I've read on these forums. I believe that the sunshine app gives you the options to temp root, s-off, and unlock the bootloader (by means that bypasses HTCDev.com). So that is probably what the previous owner did.
With s-off there isn't ever a need to relock the bootloader, and therefore no need to unlock it again with the bin code. RUUs will run with bootloader unlocked when s-off. And you can change the hboot flag to LOCKED for warranty purposes with s-off.
If for some reason you want to relock and then unlock the bootloader again, you can just go through the HTCDev.com process to get a new bin code. But its not advised. As I don't see why you would ever want to relock (for the reasons just given). And once you go through HTCDev.com, HTC will have a record of you doing so (which they do not at this time).

Thanks you have been more than helpfull!
Another question and last one :
Can i dual boot with multirom a sense 6 rom and the GPe rom?
I have the latest firmware installed so from what i read GPe roms can run without any issues.
Thanks again!

nighthawk696969 said:
Thanks you have been more than helpfull!
Another question and last one :
Can i dual boot with multirom a sense 6 rom and the GPe rom?
I have the latest firmware installed so from what i read GPe roms can run without any issues.
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No idea, I've never used MultiROM, and not that familiar with it. Hopefully, someone who knows will chime in. Or you can post to the MultiROM thread to possibly get a quicker answer.

[Q] htc update after root (please answer quick )

So i am at noob at this but just asking before doing something wrong
Can i use rom updates from HTC while im rooted with a unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery and skydragon rom ???

I believe that will give you an RUU, which you technically can use to put your phone back into a stock state. I would recommend relocking your bootloader first if you dont have S-OFF, as it seems to get in the way of RUU's from time to time. Keep in mind that this process will put you back to stock Sense and will wipe your data.

dima470 said:
I would recommend relocking your bootloader first if you dont have S-OFF, as it seems to get in the way of RUU's from time to time.
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Unlocked bootloader will get in the way of RUU every time if you are s-on.
Relocked or locked bootloader is absolutely mandatory to run an official RUU with s-on.

Question about rooting with S-off but locked

So i have the tmobile htc 10 and i had it unlocked and S-on but rooted. then i decided to s-off to change cid and install the unlocked versions firmwares. but when i used the sunshine app to get s-off it gave me the option to get s-off and Locked. so i did that one since it was recommended. and now i can flash twrp but every time i flash supersu no app shows up and keeps saying my device is not rooted. I have tried reflashing the rom through ruu and zip files and nothing. will i have to re-unlock my bootloader even though im already s-off to get root?

Think you might need to download the super SU app from the play store too.
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ErickF said:
So i have the tmobile htc 10 and i had it unlocked and S-on but rooted. then i decided to s-off to change cid and install the unlocked versions firmwares. but when i used the sunshine app to get s-off it gave me the option to get s-off and Locked. so i did that one since it was recommended. and now i can flash twrp but every time i flash supersu no app shows up and keeps saying my device is not rooted. I have tried reflashing the rom through ruu and zip files and nothing. will i have to re-unlock my bootloader even though im already s-off to get root?
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I selected the other option (unlocked S-off) and I had to re-flash supersu. After that, it's worked fine. I don't think sunshine does anything to re-lock the bootloader, but I could be wrong.

charlatan01 said:
I selected the other option (unlocked S-off) and I had to re-flash supersu. After that, it's worked fine. I don't think sunshine does anything to re-lock the bootloader, but I could be wrong.
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Fixed it. Since i chose the option to s-off but locked in the sunshine app it wouldnt let me reflash the supersu. I had to unlock the bootloader again and it now works perfectly

[urgent] how to lock the bootloader!!

Hi All,
I am now on Android 7.0 and my htc 10's motherboard is not working.
Previously, I have unlocked the bootloader and therefore, before I go to the repair center, i have to lock my bootloader back.
I know i can S-OFF it with sunshine, what should i do after S-OFF?
Thanks a lot!!!

I guess my htc 10 should have LOCKED status for bootloader and also S-ON in order to have the warranty.
Would any of you please help?

noname729 said:
I guess my htc 10 should have LOCKED status for bootloader and also S-ON in order to have the warranty.
Would any of you please help?
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When using sunshine, choose the s-off/Locked option. Then go back s-on.

Tarima said:
When using sunshine, choose the s-off/Locked option. Then go back s-on.
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do you mean by clicking S-off/Locked option, it will then go back to both S-ON and Locked?

noname729 said:
do you mean by clicking S-off/Locked option, it will then go back to both S-ON and Locked?
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No I mean after using sunshine with the s-off/Locked option, you need to do s-on manually. This will set you s-on with your bootloader locked.
The s-on procedure is described here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-safely-set-bootloader-to-locked-t3386456

Tarima said:
No I mean after using sunshine with the s-off/Locked option, you need to do s-on manually. This will set you s-on with your bootloader locked.
The s-on procedure is described here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-safely-set-bootloader-to-locked-t3386456
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great! this looks exactly what i want.
Wish that i can get my phone repaired soon!

Don't forget to flash a run.exe before go S-ON to obtain OFFICIAL state in bootloader

enduromen said:
Don't forget to flash a run.exe before go S-ON to obtain OFFICIAL state in bootloader
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+1
You could end up with a brick.
Ruu before setting to s-on is the best method.

andybones said:
+1
You could end up with a brick.
Ruu before setting to s-on is the best method.
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my mistake not run.exe but RUU.exe of course if you go