[Q] Should i update to 4.4.2 kitkat? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Hi i have a samsung s3 which is from bell. I really want those media controls on the lockscreen which has been implemented with the 4.4.2 update in samsung s3 but as i read through forums i had encountered those people who says that the update sucks. Some says that it comes up with an sd card restriction, is it true? And do you recommend updating into 4.4.2, why or why not?
Additional question
Does the same rooting using cf-autoroot works with 4.4.2?
I dont really like those custom roms and i prefer the stock touchwiz

yves010598 said:
Hi i have a samsung s3 which is from bell. I really want those media controls on the lockscreen which has been implemented with the 4.4.2 update in samsung s3 but as i read through forums i had encountered those people who says that the update sucks. Some says that it comes up with an sd card restriction, is it true? And do you recommend updating into 4.4.2, why or why not?
Additional question
Does the same rooting using cf-autoroot works with 4.4.2?
I dont really like those custom roms and i prefer the stock touchwiz
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I was able to root with cf-autoroot on 4.4.2
The SD card restriction is a big PITA. Your apps can no longer directly access the microSD card except for a specific folder that the application has rights to.
I just flashed my rogers S3 to a custom 5.1.1 ROM and lollipop is a big improvement over kitkat. It definitely runs smoother on the S3 than kitkat did.

arasarn said:
I was able to root with cf-autoroot on 4.4.2
The SD card restriction is a big PITA. Your apps can no longer directly access the microSD card except for a specific folder that the application has rights to.
I just flashed my rogers S3 to a custom 5.1.1 ROM and lollipop is a big improvement over kitkat. It definitely runs smoother on the S3 than kitkat did.
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i have read that there's an apk made by a senior member of xda which remove the restriction, i think it was called sdFIx. Anyway is there any other bugs from 4.4.2? and does the battery actually drains faster on kitkat compared to 4.3 Jb?
im currently downloading it now

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RE: Downgrade Galaxy S3 I747 from 4.3(knox) to 4.1.2???

RE: Downgrade Galaxy S3 I747 from 4.3(knox) to 4.1.2???
Hi guys,
I've been searching online and no luck finding a good answers. I have a Galaxy S3 I747M(Canadian) that was handed to me.... Sad part is, most average users, whenever they see an update for the phone, they freaking update without research the pros or cons.
Anyhows, I was fiddling with my Galaxy Note 2 and came across on how disable KNOX to achieve Rooting and I thought***** Light Bulb*
Here's my idea, not sure if this will work but, I will root my Galaxy S3 and use the same idea by disabling KNOX using Dr Ketan multitool to rename Knox.*apk files then inject busy box and root. (By the way, I have rooted my S3 this way and it achieve rooting no problem).
Now the question is, since KNOX is disabled, would I be able to downgrade to 4.1.2? Just wondering if other people out there has ever done this route by disabling KNOX and then do downgrade....
What do you guys think?
amilayajr said:
Hi guys,
I've been searching online and no luck finding a good answers. I have a Galaxy S3 I747M(Canadian) that was handed to me.... Sad part is, most average users, whenever they see an update for the phone, they freaking update without research the pros or cons.
Anyhows, I was fiddling with my Galaxy Note 2 and came across on how disable KNOX to achieve Rooting and I thought***** Light Bulb*
Here's my idea, not sure if this will work but, I will root my Galaxy S3 and use the same idea by disabling KNOX using Dr Ketan multitool to rename Knox.*apk files then inject busy box and root. (By the way, I have rooted my S3 this way and it achieve rooting no problem).
Now the question is, since KNOX is disabled, would I be able to downgrade to 4.1.2? Just wondering if other people out there has ever done this route by disabling KNOX and then do downgrade....
What do you guys think?
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Dont do it. You will BRICK your phone. For the moment on android 4.3 Samsung galaxy i747M (same as mine on Rogers) therse no way to downgrade. Yon wont be able to downgrade anyway because you have the new bootloader and with the new one, you CANT downgrade, or if you try, you will Soft-Brick your phone.
(In the past, i got an HTC EVO 3D and Soft-Bricked my phone by flashing a wrong Kernel.... so i made some research on the web and i found the a JTAG may be able to unbrick my phone and flash back the good Kernel the good ROM and the good bootloader.... So I sent it to a store who was repairing smrtphones. Tey tell me that they knew what my problem is so they should be able ot fix it but... the next day when i came to get my HTC they told me that finnally EVEN with the JTAG they wasnt able to repair it...)
* All of that to tell you : dont trust JTAG sometimes it may not work...
amilayajr said:
Hi guys,
I've been searching online and no luck finding a good answers. I have a Galaxy S3 I747M(Canadian) that was handed to me.... Sad part is, most average users, whenever they see an update for the phone, they freaking update without research the pros or cons.
Anyhows, I was fiddling with my Galaxy Note 2 and came across on how disable KNOX to achieve Rooting and I thought***** Light Bulb*
Here's my idea, not sure if this will work but, I will root my Galaxy S3 and use the same idea by disabling KNOX using Dr Ketan multitool to rename Knox.*apk files then inject busy box and root. (By the way, I have rooted my S3 this way and it achieve rooting no problem).
Now the question is, since KNOX is disabled, would I be able to downgrade to 4.1.2? Just wondering if other people out there has ever done this route by disabling KNOX and then do downgrade....
What do you guys think?
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I have the i747 canadian model too and althpugh you can't downgrade to stock 4.1.2, you can definetly flash a custom 4.1.2 rom which DOES NOT include a bootloader. Im currently running hyperdrive rls 16 which is 4.1.2 based and before that i was rooted on stock 4.3.
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I have a question along the same lines, is it possible to restore a nandroid of 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 after updating the bootloader? Does restoring a nandroid affect the bootloader?
I actually haven't don't the official update yet, specifically because I don't like that it's one way. I flashed stock 4.3 without updating the bootloader and I like the improvements.
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gc84245 said:
I have a question along the same lines, is it possible to restore a nandroid of 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 after updating the bootloader? Does restoring a nandroid affect the bootloader?
I actually haven't don't the official update yet, specifically because I don't like that it's one way. I flashed stock 4.3 without updating the bootloader and I like the improvements.
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No by restauring your phone whit nandroid if you are on 4.3 with the new bootloader you will brick your device...
Code:
[ro.bootloader]: [I747MVLUEMK5]
[ro.build.id]: [JZO54K]
[ro.build.hidden_ver]: [I747MVLDMF1]
I'm able to get 4.1.* running but none of the modems seem to work.
Am I screwed if I need to network/sim unlock this?
EDIT: Just found out about EFSv1 vs. EFSv2. Looks like I'm boned for a free unlock.
weedy2887 said:
Code:
[ro.bootloader]: [I747MVLUEMK5]
[ro.build.id]: [JZO54K]
[ro.build.hidden_ver]: [I747MVLDMF1]
I'm able to get 4.1.* running but none of the modems seem to work.
Am I screwed if I need to network/sim unlock this?
EDIT: Just found out about EFSv1 vs. EFSv2. Looks like I'm boned for a free unlock.
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You cannot use the free method to sim unlock the phone unless you are running a completely stock ROM, inclduing the bootloader. There were a couple of users that downgraded everything to 4.1.1 from 4.3 except the bootloader and the required unlock menu options were not available.
Because the 4.3 upgrade changes to format of the EFS partition.
Nope, its all because of the modem. You never had to flash a 4.1.1 rom, only the modem. The problem is that once you've updated to 4.3, older modems no longer function.
There is little more than factoryapp, s/n, and drm related data on the EFS partition of these devices. They are not like many others where a lot of NV data was stored there.
This is also why backing up the EFS, while not a bad idea, does not protect against many of the things people think it will, such as IMEI loss.
Hi, I need your help!
i have I747 AT&T with 4.1.1 PDA: I747UCDLK3
My main concern what will brick my device if i try downgrade from 4.3 coustm rom?!
Can anyone give my a full list of BT+MO+Ke ? what I found in XDA is short list.
4.3+ bootloader - YES! (I747UCUEMJB and Up will brick )
I being told that I747UCUEMJ2 is the higher i can get downgrade without porblems
I rellay don't know which Modems & Kernals are belong to 4.1.1 VS 4.3+
Modems - ? (will loss IMEI) can I use old modem like:I747UCDMG2/UCDLK3 on 4.3+ ?
Kernels - ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/help/bootloaders-kernaels-modems-list-t2851857
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321310&page=41#post54912358
Once on 4.3 or above you cannot flash older firmware. Only the modem belonging to each build will work.
You can flash older roms, but thats it.

UK Kitkat and SD questions??

Hi
I'm new to Android relatively, I been an Apple user but switched to the Note for the stylus. Anyway, happy with the device except for the lag which I hear KitKat solves it.
However, has the UK received Kitkat yet?. If not is there a way I can upgrade for a newbie.
Also I have tons of PDFs and Comics on my external SD Card, would upgrading to Kit Kat mean I can no longer access them?.
6 threads below this one, upgrade guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2719750
Read about sd card changes and what it means to you here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...at-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/
rirawin said:
Hi
I'm new to Android relatively, I been an Apple user but switched to the Note for the stylus. Anyway, happy with the device except for the lag which I hear KitKat solves it.
However, has the UK received Kitkat yet?. If not is there a way I can upgrade for a newbie.
Also I have tons of PDFs and Comics on my external SD Card, would upgrading to Kit Kat mean I can no longer access them?.
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The UK version is not available yet but we can assume it will come at some point in the next few days/weeks/months(!). Samsung are not the best at telling anyone.
The version that GldRush98 refers to is for the US. You can install it and it will work but I believe it comes with some apps that the carrier wanted delivered to the device. If you are in a hurry, go that route.
If you can wait then you can check the SamFiles website for new firmwares, if you're not sure your device is checking for you. Alternatively keep an eye on the development threads and consider a custom KitKat ROM. They are likely to be even faster as they remove the bloatware and make some tweaks to improve the experience. I'm hopeful of seeing a Cyanogenmod v11 version for this device in the not too distant future.
Sy Borg said:
The UK version is not available yet but we can assume it will come at some point in the next few days/weeks/months(!). Samsung are not the best at telling anyone.
The version that GldRush98 refers to is for the US. You can install it and it will work but I believe it comes with some apps that the carrier wanted delivered to the device. If you are in a hurry, go that route.
If you can wait then you can check the SamFiles website for new firmwares, if you're not sure your device is checking for you. Alternatively keep an eye on the development threads and consider a custom KitKat ROM. They are likely to be even faster as they remove the bloatware and make some tweaks to improve the experience. I'm hopeful of seeing a Cyanogenmod v11 version for this device in the not too distant future.
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Thank you, I like to root but I hear it invalids your warranty, and since the note is only a month old its not something I wish to happen. Though I wish I could root it to remove all the bloatware, one thing Apple does well at least.
Still love my Note, great digital sketchbook
Yes, it's a nice machine and the SPen is very good. If you go checking for new firmware, the right site is SamMobile, not SamFiles (I keep getting that wrong). Try http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-P600&pcode=0 but obviously check for your variant.
I forgot to say - rooting does trip the counter and void the warranty but you can install a custom ROM without root. So, as and when there's a ROM you want to try you could install it and if not happy go back to the stock Samsung ROM later.
Well a custom Recovery also trips the knox counter.
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benni2903 said:
Well a custom Recovery also trips the knox counter.
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Ah, good point. So, damned either way
you can easily flash the USA image without tripping knox.
for the sd card, all data stay avalaible but only some "official" apps (like Myfiles) can write to sdcard. Others app can just read on it.
lightman33 said:
you can easily flash the USA image without tripping knox.
for the sd card, all data stay avalaible but only some "official" apps (like Myfiles) can write to sdcard. Others app can just read on it.
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Would this flashing be done via ODIN and injecting the USA image into my SM-P600? Or is there another way?
I'd love to bump this thing up to Kit Kat, but I'd like to avoid setting off Knox.
I'm over in Australia, so we're still waiting for the update, if ever. I just looked into KitKat for my S4 and for some reason, Australia is the only country still using 4.3 - Who the heck knows why, but it's major BS, so I just downloaded a New Zealand 4.4.3 image and installed that, seems to have done the job and the phone still works normally.
I'm assuming if they're gonna take their sweet time with a KitKat for the S4, they're gonna take just as long with KitKat for my P600.
Yes, you can flash a Kitkat Image without tripping Knox using odin.
I do it a few days ago and, like you, I want to preserve my warranty.
My device is french and it's running usa version.
lightman33 said:
Yes, you can flash a Kitkat Image without tripping Knox using odin.
I do it a few days ago and, like you, I want to preserve my warranty.
My device is french and it's running usa version.
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Some good app designers have already fixed the sd card access issue without you having to root. "Maps with me" for instance, great app with great support.
Hopefully others will follow.
lightman33 said:
Yes, you can flash a Kitkat Image without tripping Knox using odin.
I do it a few days ago and, like you, I want to preserve my warranty.
My device is french and it's running usa version.
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I took the risk and flashed my AUS version with the USA version, seems to be working normally, if anything, works much more smoothly now, and I checked the ODIN screen in my tablet and it says Warranty Void: 0 which is good. It also says "Official" under the About. So everything is GO!
Finally couldn't wait any longer and Flashed USA kitkat on my UK 10.1via odin. Absolutely no problems!
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poplectic said:
Finally couldn't wait any longer and Flashed USA kitkat on my UK 10.1via odin. Absolutely no problems!
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Does it contain less bloatware?
The Note I have has so much garbage like tripadvisor etc.
Nah its much the same. It is a little bit nippier though. A little bit.
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Questions About Kit Kat

Hello
Basically I'm going to be out of the country in 2 weeks time and did not want to update in case something got borked and I'd be without certain stuff while away. Essentially I've got the viper audio mod on a stock 4.3 rom which is now "unrooted" so certain other apps can work properly. Viper still works fine on this unrooted phone though.
In relation to Kit Kat I have a few questions so I know whether it's worth me upgrading now.
Can I downgrade back to 4.3 on a knox voided boot-loader phone?
Does the stock camera or the new google camera app allow you to save to the SD?
Does viper4android work on it?
With this SD business, can I still download stuff onto it and/or copy stuff from a usb stick connected to my phone onto the SD?
That's it for now

[Q] GT-N5100 Italian 3g - to root or not to root

Hello fellow androidians
I am here because I desperately need to play Baldurs Gate on my Note 8 but Kies won't update my device - as far as I can understand, the Italian model is not exactly looked after and it's still running 4.1.2. So I won't be able to move stuff to the sd card for a while.
I have a few questions regarding this issue:
Can I safely root it?
And if I root it I can still use the base android or am I to flash a custom rom?
I would like to keep S Note which I use a lot, so any suggestion here is highly appreciated.
Will rooting mean loosing all the stuff I have in my galleries or will it be possible to root without a backup?
After years of Android use I collected a lot of memorabilia, which position and time of download is very precious to me. Call me ocd and you won't be wrong.
In case I will go for the root, will the tips provided here work on my model baseband version N5100XXBMC8?
I would be much happier if I had the possibility of updating to kit kat straight away, but this seems unlikely
How silly of me thinking Italian carriers would update my little treasure!
Normally you will not loose any data when you root your device. Base will not change. No need to flash a Custom Rom. So root your origunal 4.1.2 and finished.

External SDcard restrictions on Tab S after lollipop upgrade?

Hello all,
Not sure this has been asked yet. I did a search and didn't find anything so please excuse me if I'm asking an answered question. My 8.4" SM-T700 still runs on 4.4 Kitkat. Originally there were external sdcard restrictions where writing to external sd card was locked and one needed to root and download an third party app in order to regain full access. Is this also the case on 5.0.2 Lollipop? I'm thinking of doing an update (finally), but want to know if I'll face the same issues with the external SD on 5.0.2.
All help greatly appreciated.
Regards
Hi.
I had been running stock kitkat on my 10.5" for 18 months and i just updated to lollipop, With kitkat i had to used the kitkat microsd fix to enable write/delete but since i updated to lollipop i have not had an problems writing or deleting files on my microsd, so that`s my experience.
John.
Thanks Tinderbox! Much appreciated.
The fix still works on lollipop 5.0.2

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