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So here is a question that I cannot find the answer to. If a ROM like Android Revolution HD is based off the 1.29.401.12 Firmware and I have a 1.29.707.11 based phone, can I install the ROM? I know I would have to unlock and install a custom recovery, but is it possible? I ask because I thought I read somewhere you cant mix firmware updates (ie x.xx.401.xx and x.xx.707.xx) without S-Off or it would cause problems.
Thanks in advance!!
toonhead85

There should be no problem to install latest ARHD ROM. I did it many times coming from stock with different numbers. Any way most of your stock files are reflashed by ROM files. ARHD is universal ROM for any HOX Internatioanal versions.

Since you are replacing the whole firmware, the version of the one you are replacing should not matter.
However, make sure that the new ROM has support for your specific hardware!
/Croaton

Thanks, I shall try the ROM this weekend or next!!

[Q] [q] Bell OTA + Lollipop + Custom Roms

Hey! I've been spending hours reverting my rom to stock and doing my OTAs to get to lollipop.
My phone is a Bell M8 with S-ON. I am currently up to 4.4.4 and about to do the Lollipop update. I am aware I should do sunshine on 4.4.3 but am broke right now so was just thinking of waiting until it works on Lollipop.
That being said, the current Bell OTA for Lollipop is version 4.20.666.1 (awesome numbers btw) and most roms say I need firmware 4.16.x.x.
My question is, will those roms work properly on this firmware? Or should I go back to 4.4.3 and use sunshine (I am impatient and want lollipop now, but stock roms suck.)
Thanks for the help!
edit: I found this advice in a rom thread
In future Rom releases, you may stick with your region’s firmware as long as that firmware is from the current released base, such as 5.0.1, 5.0.2, etc.
Firmware flashing is not required for every Rom update. Most of the time it is best to remain on your phone’s native firmware for best signal reception, battery life, and overall performance.
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So does that mean as long as the rom is the same version 5.0.x that I should be fine?

Ya you should be fine tuning that firmware with the Rom... Can I ask you to also please upload the ota for us ...I've been looking for it all around

danial.aw said:
Ya you should be fine tuning that firmware with the Rom... Can I ask you to also please upload the ota for us ...I've been looking for it all around
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Where do I find it I haven't update yet.. I'd you can tell me where it is located I can extract and upload it.

I have a TWRP backup of it. Would that work or probably not since the firmware isn't there.

[Q] upgradE to newest firmware(4.16.401.10) and still run 4.4.4?

I was hoping to upgrade my firmware(3.32.531.2) to the newest version(4.16.401.10). My baseline nand back up is the original htc tmobile 4.4.4 rom after it was boot loader unlocked, rooted, and s-offed, but nothing else.
If I upgrade to the latest and greatest firmware will that rom still run, or can that only work with android 5.x?
Basically I wanted to upgrade the firmware, make sure that all works, then move to a 5.x rom. I've tested a few 5.x roms and they worked with the older firmware, but I was curious if people knew if it worked the other way?
Thanks!
Device:
Tmo 4.4.4 m8
current firmware 3.32.531.2
Mostly stock - unlocked bootloader, rooted, and s-offed. Still on original htc image

Sartan4455 said:
I was hoping to upgrade my firmware(3.32.531.2) to the newest version(4.16.401.10). My baseline nand back up is the original htc tmobile 4.4.4 rom after it was boot loader unlocked, rooted, and s-offed, but nothing else.
If I upgrade to the latest and greatest firmware will that rom still run, or can that only work with android 5.x?
Basically I wanted to upgrade the firmware, make sure that all works, then move to a 5.x rom. I've tested a few 5.x roms and they worked with the older firmware, but I was curious if people knew if it worked the other way?
Thanks!
Device:
Tmo 4.4.4 m8
current firmware 3.32.531.2
Mostly stock - unlocked bootloader, rooted, and s-offed. Still on original htc image
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It does work the other way, better than old firmware and new ROM. With old FW and a newer ROM, you will possibly have data connection issues, particularly WiFi.

xunholyx said:
It does work the other way, better than old firmware and new ROM. With old FW and a newer ROM, you will possibly have data connection issues, particularly WiFi.
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So to be clear: old firmware and new rom works(and I've tried it) but may have issues(I had lte issues but was fine with wifi) but also new firmware old rom shouldn't cause real issues(aka unbootable)? When I was doing this with my old htc sensation sometimes that wasn't the case(but this was back in the good old gingerbread days). New rom(ics) and old firmware was bad news.
If something goes wrong, I want to be able to roll back to my working nand back up of 4.4.4, but if the firmware doesn't allow it, I could have some serious issues.

Sartan4455 said:
So to be clear: old firmware and new rom works(and I've tried it) but may have issues(I had lte issues but was fine with wifi) but also new firmware old rom shouldn't cause real issues(aka unbootable)? When I was doing this with my old htc sensation sometimes that wasn't the case(but this was back in the good old gingerbread days). New rom(ics) and old firmware was bad news.
If something goes wrong, I want to be able to roll back to my working nand back up of 4.4.4, but if the firmware doesn't allow it, I could have some serious issues.
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Yeah, don't worry. I had 4.16.401.10 on a 4.4.4 ROM for a month or more.

xunholyx said:
Yeah, don't worry. I had 4.16.401.10 on a 4.4.4 ROM for a month or more.
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Great That's what I wanted to know! I had to wait months to s-off..(sunshine 3.x+) after having free reign with my sensation. I'm just so excited!

Nice to know.
And what about Xposed? If i don't get wrong, it doesn't work on Lollipop because Lollipop is ART-based.
So it should not be any way related to firmware, meaning that I could have the latest firmware (able to support a Lollipop ROM), a Kitkat based ROM AND working Xposed.
Could it be?

xunholyx said:
Yeah, don't worry. I had 4.16.401.10 on a 4.4.4 ROM for a month or more.
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It worked just fine. Rocking 4.16.401.10 and skydragon 4.2.5 for now! Much thanks!

sbiricuda said:
Nice to know.
And what about Xposed? If i don't get wrong, it doesn't work on Lollipop because Lollipop is ART-based.
So it should not be any way related to firmware, meaning that I could have the latest firmware (able to support a Lollipop ROM), a Kitkat based ROM AND working Xposed.
Could it be?
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I don't use Xposed, but I believe it will work fine with new firmware as long as you are still on a 4.4.4 base. Xposed modifies /system which is part of the ROM.

Sartan4455 said:
It worked just fine. Rocking 4.16.401.10 and skydragon 4.2.5 for now! Much thanks!
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How's it going on so far? Still fine?

sbiricuda said:
How's it going on so far? Still fine?
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Oh yah. Going great. I've settled on LeeDroid as my daily driver, but want a gpe/aosp version that works better in the end. CM12, Blisspop, skydragon(and I've tried others) have all had an issue or two for me that pulled me back to leedroid's. I've not wanted to make the switch to full GPE conversion yet, but maybe one day...

[Solved] I'm ROM-less :(

I accidentally forgot to make a backup before flashing a new ROM and now I'm stuck with no ROM! Please help if you can. Here's my phone's info:
HTC One M9 (Telus Canadian phone) Unlocked with S-ON.
Rooted with SuperSU and TWRP v2.8.7.0.
Currently, I only have access to fastboot and TWRP. I tried flashing Revolution HD and Viper and both of them install just fine, but right after installation, my phone boots to the bootloader and will not boot to the system no mater what I do. I tried going back to full-stock but I think I need S-Off for that which I have no clue how to do with no ROM. Plus fastboot won't even show me what my CID/MID numbers are to download the right stuff for my phone if I wanna go back to stock.
I just need a ROM to work. I don't care which one. What are my options? Is there a way unbrick my phone?
Thanks in advance!

Flash an lollipop ROM and all will be fine, you can't use MM without MM firmware
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2WildFirE said:
Flash an lollipop ROM and all will be fine, you can't use MM without MM firmware
Powered by SkyDragon ROM
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Excuse my partial knowledge in this area, but what is MM firmware?

mozer0 said:
Excuse my partial knowledge in this area, but what is MM firmware?
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Marshmallow Firmware is what you would need to run latest rom. You could pay $25 and use sunshine to make yourself s-off and flash the latest marshmallow Firmware.

BR7fan said:
Marshmallow Firmware is what you would need to run latest rom. You could pay $25 and use sunshine to make yourself s-off and flash the latest marshmallow Firmware.
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Thanks to you, now I have a ROM
But what's a near-stock Lollipop ROM you'd recommend? Because I just installed Candy5 and Sunshine didn't like it for being too far from stock.

mozer0 said:
Thanks to you, now I have a ROM
But what's a near-stock Lollipop ROM you'd recommend? Because I just installed Candy5 and Sunshine didn't like it for being too far from stock.
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For the original look you get when you buy it,I'd go with leedroid rom. For AOSP I'd go with slimroms or candy.

FYI, you can install a Marshmallow rom with firmware 2.1x when AOSP only. I tried a Cyanogenmod and was working perfectly with actual nightlies.
But for Sense rom, you will have to install firmware 3.x

Thank you guys for your help! @BR7fan you're a real life saver! Just a quick update:
I managed to get S-Off and now I guess I have to wait until firmware 3.x is released for Canadian phones as I could not get it on the HTC website as of yet. @gortys I ran Cyanogenmod all day today and got annoyed with the WiFi drops. It happens so frequently and as I understand, there's no stable build for the M9 yet. So I'm taking @BR7fan's advice and going with LeeDroid for now. Thanks for pointing out that I can get Marshmallow ROM's with my old firmware.

mozer0 said:
Thank you guys for your help! @BR7fan you're a real life saver! Just a quick update:
I managed to get S-Off and now I guess I have to wait until firmware 3.x is released for Canadian phones as I could not get it on the HTC website as of yet. @gortys I ran Cyanogenmod all day today and got annoyed with the WiFi drops. It happens so frequently and as I understand, there's no stable build for the M9 yet. So I'm taking @BR7fan's advice and going with LeeDroid for now. Thanks for pointing out that I can get Marshmallow ROM's with my old firmware.
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It's true that wifi isn't as responsive as with a Sense rom. I am actually running Android Revolution HD (Lollipop 5.1) with Elementalx kernel and I'd say that Sense rom are quite always more optimized. Waiting for official OTA to firmware 3.x to flash their marshmallow version of the rom.
Patience for all!!

mozer0 said:
Thanks to you, now I have a ROM
But what's a near-stock Lollipop ROM you'd recommend? Because I just installed Candy5 and Sunshine didn't like it for being too far from stock.
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Hello, i have the same problem , S-ON twrp 2.8.6.0 rooted, what stock rom do you used in your phone?

samuspr1me said:
Hello, i have the same problem , S-ON twrp 2.8.6.0 rooted, what stock rom do you used in your phone?
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I used LeeDroid. It's basically stock with a few tweaks.

mozer0 said:
I used LeeDroid. It's basically stock with a few tweaks.
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Thanks for answer
but my problem is update to 3.35 i cannot find update compatible with cid telus0001, what update do you used?
Thanks in advance.

samuspr1me said:
Thanks for answer
but my problem is update to 3.35 i cannot find update compatible with cid telus0001, what update do you used?
Thanks in advance.
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Looks like the old Lollipop based LeeDroid has been taken down. I have a backup of it on my phone though. I'm uploading it to Google Drive right now but it's a 2 GB file so it won't be ready till tomorrow. I hope you find something else in the meantime, but if you didn't, check your inbox tomorrow, I'll share the link with you so you can download it.

Thanks, i'll be waiting

samuspr1me said:
Thanks, i'll be waiting
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Check your inbox

Back to stock rom with S-ON

Hello guys,
i'm an owner of HTC one M8, with unlocked bootloader from htcdev but with S-ON.
I just want to go back to stock rom, because every custom rom i try has some issues (battery life mainly too short! I dont know if this is because of firmware, i
dont know how to update it or even how to see what is my one now).
But, the only guides i see are with S-OFF devices. Is this possible to to it with s-on?
Also, i would be s-off if there is a still working method, i've seen firewater one doesnt work anymore so there are no other solutions.
EDIT: at least guys, can you tell me how to check and/or update my firmware?

You post this on wrong section .. should be in Q&A ... I'm asking a mod to move this thread to Q&A
Read this thread, it is for both S-On and S-Off to get back to stock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
First thing to check is fastboot getvar all result (delete serial & imei no.) then we will know what you need to do

Try MIUI7 rom
Valenz45 said:
Hello guys,
i'm an owner of HTC one M8, with unlocked bootloader from htcdev but with S-ON.
I just want to go back to stock rom, because every custom rom i try has some issues (battery life mainly too short! I dont know if this is because of firmware, i
dont know how to update it or even how to see what is my one now).
But, the only guides i see are with S-OFF devices. Is this possible to to it with s-on?
Also, i would be s-off if there is a still working method, i've seen firewater one doesnt work anymore so there are no other solutions.
EDIT: at least guys, can you tell me how to check and/or update my firmware?
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listen you can try MIUI based rom for htc it have great battery backup compare to the other marshmallow based roms,
so you first try miui rom(4.4.4) for htc , it have some bugs like google text to speech isnt working but battery backup is awesome. rom is stable though. and you cannot rollback to stock using ruu when your device is S-ON , use sunshine for S-OFF, lol pay $25

saiyansection said:
listen you can try MIUI based rom for htc it have great battery backup compare to the other marshmallow based roms,
so you first try miui rom(4.4.4) for htc , it have some bugs like google text to speech isnt working but battery backup is awesome. rom is stable though. and you cannot rollback to stock using ruu when your device is S-ON , use sunshine for S-OFF, lol pay $25
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Ok i would like to not pay lel.
THE PROBLEM in using custom roms is, i think, the firmware, because i just flashed trough fastboot the roms, without updating any firmware.
I tryed Android revolution HD and Skydragon but booth had battery problems, i mean the battery was going down too quickly also with screen off (from stats, in 6 hours i say 3 hours deep sleep, 3 hours 300 mhz cpu so it didnt "relax"!

I really want top say thanks to ckpv5 that helped me in PM's and linked me his own guide to restore to stock rom, it worked and it's all perfect! Thanks man!
Just a last question: now i have the stock htc one rom, so i'm doing OTA's. This means my firmware is automatically updated with them?
So if in future i want to install a custom rom MM based, i won't need to flash firmware?

Yes firmware is updated with the OTA .. after the latest OTA 6.12.401.4, you can install latest TWRP and install MM custom ROMs .. no need firmware update anymore

Very well, thanks mate.
for the moment i'll leave the stock rom.
I will use a MM custom rom when they will be based on official MM rom for htc one m8, and not porting from M9/A9

Valenz45 said:
Very well, thanks mate.
for the moment i'll leave the stock rom.
I will use a MM custom rom when they will be based on official MM rom for htc one m8, and not porting from M9/A9
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There have been MM based Sense custom ROMs since before the new year (Viper, Skydragon Sense, Wolla, ARHD).
S.ROM is the only A9 port.