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Hi, rather new here so I can't post in the thread on the developers board. Thought I'd try here. I recently flashed Tiny's latest CM 10.1 nightly rom and I really like it so far. There are a couple of issues but after messing with it for a while, it's mostly smooth and works well. My biggest beef, aside from those couple issues is Netflix. The app loads and I can select a show, but when I try to load a video, I just get the red loading screen that goes on forever until I hit the back button. I tried an older apk, and it wouldn't load, period (1.5.2), which I guess is to be expected when running Android 4.2. I tried 2.1 and I got the same issue with the red loading screen. Tried loading it in the browser and I got the usual page that tells me I need a certain browser for it to work. The app worked just fine in the official CM 7.2. Is there an option in settings I'm missing or something or does it not work on this rom (which I don't see why it wouldn't)?
Other naggy issue is epsxe. It works alright but if I press a volume button, it either increases or decreases all the way and all buttons freeze. Nothing works. Home, menu, power button, touch, etc (yet the emu keeps going and the music keeps playing). Sometimes when I press an on-screen button to move, it's like the button gets stuck and the character keeps moving in that direction. I have to remove the battery to reboot. Did not have this issue in cm 7.2.
Other than that, awesome rom and thanks, Tiny, for working on it.
EDIT: Well, I just tried using epsxe again and it even worked when using the volume button. Not sure why it worked except that I let the game load for a bit before pressing anything. After that, it worked just fine. So, I guess it may be even an app issue on 4.2, rather than the rom. Hope Netflix is as easy to get working.
Netflix hasn't worked on JB or ICS. Known issue since day one. Probably won't be fixed as it's not a high priority in the overall picture.
...sorry...I was on the phone...
omniatic said:
Netflix hasn't worked on JB or ICS. Known issue since day one. Probably won't be fixed as it's not a high priority in the overall picture.
...sorry...I was on the phone...
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Well, that's disappointing. I really like this this rom but Netflix was one of the biggest reasons to keep using this device. It's mainly used as a tablet now and I don't want to buy anything else right now. Funny thing, Netflix was the only reason I didn't switch from Windows 7 to Linux. I figure, if I'm paying them every month, I should be able to play their vids on any device I please and it irks me that I can't even get it working in the android browser. Oh well. Thanks for the quick response.
EDIT: Well, I did some research and found that Netflix 1.81 seems to work to an extent. I get sound and subtitles but no video. Going to look into it some more.
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Well, that's disappointing. I really like this this rom but Netflix was one of the biggest reasons to keep using this device. It's mainly used as a tablet now and I don't want to buy anything else right now. Funny thing, Netflix was the only reason I didn't switch from Windows 7 to Linux. I figure, if I'm paying them every month, I should be able to play their vids on any device I please and it irks me that I can't even get it working in the android browser. Oh well. Thanks for the quick response.
EDIT: Well, I did some research and found that Netflix 1.81 seems to work to an extent. I get sound and subtitles but no video. Going to look into it some more.
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It works on better supported devices on ICS and JB. The issue here is the codecs and hardware support / drivers which will not be fixed for now. Just confirming its not androids fault or Netflix's.
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It works on better supported devices on ICS and JB. The issue here is the codecs and hardware support / drivers which will not be fixed for now. Just confirming its not androids fault or Netflix's.
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So no amount of tinkering with older apks and workarounds (to make it so the app uses older netflix video players) will work because the rom/hardware simply doesn't support playback? I was looking at some other threads and google and a lot of people seem to be having trouble getting Netflix to work on 10.1 and Android 4.2 in general. Seems when the app detects Jelly Bean, it uses its newest video player, which has some problems on some devices. Forcing it to use an older player seems to work for some people. Adding a line to the code to make it use player "6" instead of "10" or something. Haven't actually applied anything to the app to try it because I'm a complete novice at this.
You're the expert and I assume if there was an easy method that wouldn't screw anything up in the CM 10.1 build, you'd apply it. I do appreciate the work you and others are putting into these roms and other than this Netflix issue, it rocks. I may go back to CM 7.2 after a bit but I'll definitely keep an eye on your updates and try them out.
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So no amount of tinkering with older apks and workarounds (to make it so the app uses older netflix video players) will work because the rom/hardware simply doesn't support playback? I was looking at some other threads and google and a lot of people seem to be having trouble getting Netflix to work on 10.1 and Android 4.2 in general. Seems when the app detects Jelly Bean, it uses its newest video player, which has some problems on some devices. Forcing it to use an older player seems to work for some people. Adding a line to the code to make it use player "6" instead of "10" or something. Haven't actually applied anything to the app to try it because I'm a complete novice at this.
You're the expert and I assume if there was an easy method that wouldn't screw anything up in the CM 10.1 build, you'd apply it. I do appreciate the work you and others are putting into these roms and other than this Netflix issue, it rocks. I may go back to CM 7.2 after a bit but I'll definitely keep an eye on your updates and try them out.
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That may just work. I'm kind of a newb at smali but it may be worth a shot. I haven't heard of this workaround before. In theory it should work under software.
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That may just work. I'm kind of a newb at smali but it may be worth a shot. I haven't heard of this workaround before. In theory it should work under software.
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Well, that gives me some hope, at least. Here's one of the threads I was looking at.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101525
On the last page, someone posted the code that enabled it to work on theirs.
EDIT: I tried the Xposed app workaround, by the way, which did not work for me, using 1.8.0 (thought it was 1.8.1 but wasn't. Plan on trying that next) or the newest version. I realize that these are different devices, but I'm hoping there's a way to get it to work on ours. I wonder if there's a way to trick it into thinking it's Gingerbread instead of ICS (in the thread) and using the player that works on CM 7, if it would work?
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Well, that gives me some hope, at least. Here's one of the threads I was looking at.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101525
On the last page, someone posted the code that enabled it to work on theirs.
EDIT: I tried the Xposed app workaround, by the way, which did not work for me, using 1.8.0 (thought it was 1.8.1 but wasn't. Plan on trying that next) or the newest version. I realize that these are different devices, but I'm hoping there's a way to get it to work on ours. I wonder if there's a way to trick it into thinking it's Gingerbread instead of ICS (in the thread) and using the player that works on CM 7, if it would work?
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I don't have a netflix account currently (had it and didn't use it), so I can't do much testing but based on the link you showed me, the app should work fine. Try the init.d script linked in the github in the thread you posted. Are you familiar with pushing files to your device? You just need to copy it to /system/etc/init.d and add execute permissions. Usuaully I use read-write-execute for user and read-execute for group and other.
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I don't have a netflix account currently (had it and didn't use it), so I can't do much testing but based on the link you showed me, the app should work fine. Try the init.d script linked in the github in the thread you posted. Are you familiar with pushing files to your device? You just need to copy it to /system/etc/init.d and add execute permissions. Usuaully I use read-write-execute for user and read-execute for group and other.
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The xposed_init file under assets? Can't say I've ever tried this before. I know how to add files to that folder, but no idea how to copy it to a file or whatever that would work. Don't know how to execute permissions either.
Looking things up, I can't just add a file to my sdcard and use ES File explorer to add it to the init.d folder? I copied one of the files on my desktop and opened it up with notepad. It sadly didn't help me. Like I said, total novice with android here or this stuff in general. Would like to give this a shot though. Do I add the text to notepad and then delete the .txt or do I need to make a .js file? As for permissions, do I just add r rw and x to the file?
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The xposed_init file under assets? Can't say I've ever tried this before. I know how to add files to that folder, but no idea how to copy it to a file or whatever that would work. Don't know how to execute permissions either.
Looking things up, I can't just add a file to my sdcard and use ES File explorer to add it to the init.d folder? I copied one of the files on my desktop and opened it up with notepad. It sadly didn't help me. Like I said, total novice with android here or this stuff in general. Would like to give this a shot though. Do I add the text to notepad and then delete the .txt or do I need to make a .js file? As for permissions, do I just add r rw and x to the file?
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Yeah, you can add it to notepad and remove the .txt at the end but it uses different line breaks in Windows than what Linux uses so the script may not work right. I'm not sure though. The worse thing that can happen is nothing. Android doesn't use .js which is Javascript. For permissions, yes that will work.
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Yeah, you can add it to notepad and remove the .txt at the end but it uses different line breaks in Windows than what Linux uses so the script may not work right. I'm not sure though. The worse thing that can happen is nothing. Android doesn't use .js which is Javascript. For permissions, yes that will work.
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Tried it. Not sure if I did it right. Most likely not. lol But in any case, it doesn't work. Getting a bit tired, so I may just relent. I'm sure many who are more experienced have tried already.
Just curious: If your primary use for your old Dinc is as a portable Netflix viewer, then why not just flash back to a stable GB-based ROM and enjoy?
Seems that would be a lot simpler than trying to get Netflix to work on JB, especially if you're not doing anything with the phone that requires JB.
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Just curious: If your primary use for your old Dinc is as a portable Netflix viewer, then why not just flash back to a stable GB-based ROM and enjoy?
Seems that would be a lot simpler than trying to get Netflix to work on JB, especially if you're not doing anything with the phone that requires JB.
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I like Jelly Bean. I like how it looks and feels. It's a more mature Android. Plus, I like keeping up to date with software. It's kind of nice to have 4.2 running on the aging, yet good o'l Dinc, when some newer devices don't even have 4.1 yet officially.
Also, I got it working, by the way! Before, when I downloaded the newest one onto 10.1, it would just continuously load when picking a video and not work. After tinkering, I got it to play sound but no video. I could tell that the video player was different than the one I used on 7.2 (also, the newest app). I switched back to 7.2 for a bit and downloaded my apps. I backed everything up using Clockwork mod so I could go back to it whenever. Then I backed up all the Apps with Titanium Backup. I switched back to Tiny's 10.1 and restored the apps. I tried out Netflix and it worked. It was using the same player it used on 7.2. I don't know if it detects Jelly Bean when you download it from Google Play or if it does it when you sign in to your account. When I restored it, I was already signed in, so maybe that's it. At any rate, it works.
Well, I spoke too soon. It did work for the first few videos but then stopped. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling with the Titanium Backup, but when I try to choose a video, it says I've been signed out. I sign back in and I'm back to the forever loading red screen. So yeah, I think it detects which OS I'm on as I sign in. Just a guess though. Just shows that it has nothing to do with your ROM aside from their newest player not working properly on it. It can indeed be fixed via the software with some tinkering.
Can you check the value for int name="nflx_player_type" in /data/data/com.netflix.mediaclient/shared_prefs/nfxpref.xml from a working Netflix in Gingerbread? Easier yet, pull that file from your Netflix backup from Gingerbread for me. Check for passwords in the file and clear them out before giving it to me for security.
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Can you check the value for int name="nflx_player_type" in /data/data/com.netflix.mediaclient/shared_prefs/nfxpref.xml from a working Netflix in Gingerbread? Easier yet, pull that file from your Netflix backup from Gingerbread for me. Check for passwords in the file and clear them out before giving it to me for security.
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Here you go. Says It's using Player 9. I have read that 10 is the newest player. At least I believe so.
Edit: just checked that file on 10.1. It says player 10. That means it switched when I signed back in.
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Here you go. Says It's using Player 9. I have read that 10 is the newest player. At least I believe so.
Edit: just checked that file on 10.1. It says player 10. That means it switched when I signed back in.
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Hmm, if you edit that file back to 9 and open Netflix does it work?
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Hmm, if you edit that file back to 9 and open Netflix does it work?
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Yes and it didn't work. Then I tried "6". Didn't load. I tried 9 again and for whatever reason, it loaded. It works just fine now, using the same player it did in 7.2. The kicker is that I check the XML file again and it changed somewhat. It now says "6" and it looks different. I believe the Player line used to be before the Logged in line. Now the logged in line is last. If there was some way to force it to use 6 every time, even when logging in, we'd have a working netflix app on your rom.
Maybe "old app version=17" is the key, I don't know.
EDIT: Exited the app. Still works. Rebooted the phone. Still works. There's no log out button, so I assume to log out, I need to clear data, which I assume would just put me back at square one. Seems to be working fine now, as long as I stay signed in. If I somehow have to sign in again, I'll check the xml file.
Attached the file. Just edited the user id part.
Well, it was working. Then it quit. I checked the xml file and it had switched to 10. Didn't sign in or out or anything. Tried the 6 file and it immediately switched back to 10. So, I uninstalled and then installed 1.8.1. Replaced the nfxpref file with the one I backed up and it worked. Funny thing, it's actually using an older version of the player. I believe that may actually be "6". In cm7.2, it said "9" and was using a newer version of the player (newer than the one I'm using now). It seems to work well so far. Haven't tried updating from this yet, to see if the newest one works by updating, but I doubt it would work anyway. I did notice that in the shared prefs folder, there's only one other file with the nfxpref file. In the newest version, there looked to be about six or seven other files.
Watching this with interest, if you guys figure it out please post a guide and link to it because you're not alone. My Netflix stopped working when I upgraded to 10.1 as well (interestingly it worked fine on my ICS One-Click ODIN Rom that I got last June, not CM) and this was the first thread to pop on my google search as I've started looking for answers.
*UPDATE* Got mine working using the directions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101525
Hope this helps!
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Well, it was working. Then it quit. I checked the xml file and it had switched to 10. Didn't sign in or out or anything. Tried the 6 file and it immediately switched back to 10. So, I uninstalled and then installed 1.8.1. Replaced the nfxpref file with the one I backed up and it worked. Funny thing, it's actually using an older version of the player. I believe that may actually be "6". In cm7.2, it said "9" and was using a newer version of the player (newer than the one I'm using now). It seems to work well so far. Haven't tried updating from this yet, to see if the newest one works by updating, but I doubt it would work anyway. I did notice that in the shared prefs folder, there's only one other file with the nfxpref file. In the newest version, there looked to be about six or seven other files.
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I backed Ouya on Kickstarter, and mine finally arrived today. There have been a lot of questions, a lot of speculation, and not many answers. I will personally be attempting to install a 3'rd party launcher, Google Play apps (store, music, movies) and other games and apps I have bought over the years on the Play Store. The point of this topic is for other people who are interested in buying one or have pre-ordered one to get answers to their questions, like I couldn't.
I have been an Android user since the original Motorola Droid on Verizon, and a Custom ROM Developer for the Samsung Fascinate, HTC Thunderbolt, and Droid Bionic. I will be working on a custom ROM for the Ouya as well once we get some reasonable safety measures to ensure I don't brick it while experimenting. Feel free to ask me anything, about app compatibility, features, user interface, whatever, I'll do my best to answer. I'll also keep this topic updated with my observations and experiences with hacking and modding this console.
Since I've already gone through the trouble of tracking down working apps I figured I'd save everyone else a few minutes and collect the working ones here:
How to install: From your Ouya browser click the link for any apk's you want to download. once the downloads have completed go to: Manage > System > Advanced > Storage > Downloads and select the apk files one by one.
Netflix: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/Netflix_2.1.2 build 787.apk I had audio issues on some shows until I rebooted, and an occasional freeze, but just hold down the "ouya" button on the controller to back out to home and open it up again.
Hulu Plus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/Hulu Plus 2.6.201000.apk Seems to be working great!
Youtube: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.google.android.youtube.googletv-2.apk Works great.
Nova Launcher: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk Works great and opens up additional options in the settings menu. I choose to use this as the default launcher, since I can still access all my ouya games, and the ouya home from it much quicker than from ouya home.
Dropbox: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.dropbox.android-2.apk Works great with the controller, I use it to copy apps from my computer or phone easily.
Amazon App Store: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.amazon.venezia-2.apk Installed, logged in, and downloaded Angry birds, which didn't work so well.... Well, I mean it worked great, but was very difficult to play with the ouya controller. Time to hook up a bluetooth mouse. EDIT: after the initial time working so well, I cannot get it to work again. the main page opens but any app I click on it just brings up a blank screen. If anyone else experiences this please let me know...
XBMC: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...f76-Gotham_alpha2_stagefright-armeabi-v7a.apk This is the latest XBMC build with hardware decoding. I didn't try any local/network video yet, but the streaming video from break.com looked fine.
Pandora: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.pandora.android-1.apk Works great, but since it's the Android interface you'll have on screen adds unless you pay for prime, and the "X" to close it is very tiny. However on the plus side if you go to Settings > Developer Options > Uncheck Don't keep activities Pandora can run in the background with a 3rd party launcher. So right now I'm listening to Whitesnake and installing the next app on my list to check tonight.
Flixter: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/net.flixster.android-1.apk Works, but not always. Final Destination 5 kept freezing at the same point every time, but I watched several minutes of The Dark Knight Rises on wifi and the quality was good and I had no issues.
Chrome: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7653846/apps/com.android.chrome-1.apk Works great, but due to lack of gapps framework you can't sign in, so no tab/bookmark syncing yet.
Non-working/Glitchy:
Facebook - Installed, logged in with no problem, but the interface is far to large to use. Imagine pictures that are 2 - 3 times larger than the screen, with tiny text and you'll get the idea. plus it crashed for no reason....
Twitter - Installed, could not log on. Got the error "Cannot create account" when trying to log in.
SuperSu - Installed, but once inside it said SU needed an update, and installation of that update failed.
Commenting to subscribe to the thread, excited to hear your plans and glad to see a bit more action around here.
I would suggest talking with Rayman ( posted the OTA download thread) he's also working on some development for it and I know we wanted to get some dumps from another ouya to confirm some things.
Definitely looking forward to the comments here. I received my Ouya today and excited to see what it can do.
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I'm certainly no developer, but I've had the same results regarding the play store, for what its worth. I have superuser installed and working. I attempted to use a similar method to getting the play store on the Kindle Fire, with no luck.
Has anyone dabbled with xbmc yet?
If so how is it performing?
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Has anyone dabbled with xbmc yet?
If so how is it performing?
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I played around with it a little. I was able to stream in HD from icefilms with no major problems. The most glaring issue that I saw was if you have a video playing, and decide to pull up the menu, it can be pretty sluggish. I only played with it for about 10 minutes or so, though.
Ok, time for another update. I'm very pleased with the graphics and performance of the console for the games that are available. Puddle THD looks amazing on the big screen, and aside from the camera issues it always had, I'm loving playing Mario 64 with a wireless controller using Mupen 64.
Back on the hacking side, I was able to sideload Nova Launcher successfully, and it opens up a lot of extra options in the settings menu, but I haven't had time to play with them yet. I was with family from out of town all weekend, but I'll be back home tonight and really try to crack this box open. I'll try XBMC myself tonight, are there any other apps anyone would like me to try loading?
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Ok, time for another update. I'm very pleased with the graphics and performance of the console for the games that are available. Puddle THD looks amazing on the big screen, and aside from the camera issues it always had, I'm loving playing Mario 64 with a wireless controller using Mupen 64.
Back on the hacking side, I was able to sideload Nova Launcher successfully, and it opens up a lot of extra options in the settings menu, but I haven't had time to play with them yet. I was with family from out of town all weekend, but I'll be back home tonight and really try to crack this box open. I'll try XBMC myself tonight, are there any other apps anyone would like me to try loading?
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XBMC works great, but make sure to install the experimental "libstagefright" build for hardware acceleration support. If you could figure out Hulu that would be awesome, someone reported tweaking the APK a bit to get it working but never revealed what they did.
Yeah, I saw his post about it, with no followup. Hopefully the logcat will give me some insight into why it's crashing. It's a shame Ouya removed so much of the android framework that these apps rely on. I wonder if there will ever be an official Ouya release for some of these programs...
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Yeah, I saw his post about it, with no followup. Hopefully the logcat will give me some insight into why it's crashing. It's a shame Ouya removed so much of the android framework that these apps rely on. I wonder if there will ever be an official Ouya release for some of these programs...
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Well XBMC and OUYA both promise one for XBMC at least, and I read that they're in talks to have Hulu and Netflix officially supported as well. I imagine it'll all depend on how the reaction at launch goes.
It would be really nice, but given streaming media providers attitude toward root users I wouldn't be surprised if they refused to play nice. I still can't watch an Ultraviolet movie on my Nexus 7 without temp unrooting it...
For Hulu, find the Hulu for Google tv apk, I found it online.
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Thank you! I saw that on an Ouyaforums thread and was going to try it tonight? how well does it work? I also saw somewhere that youtube for google tv works on the ouya as well, can anyone confirm that? I'll gather the apks together tonight, re-host them, and put some links in the OP.
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Thank you! I saw that on an Ouyaforums thread and was going to try it tonight? how well does it work? I also saw somewhere that youtube for google tv works on the ouya as well, can anyone confirm that? I'll gather the apks together tonight, re-host them, and put some links in the OP.
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I can confirm that the googleTV youtube app works very well.
Updated OP with tons of links to tested working apps.
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Thanks! Hulu is working great.
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My controller and console work but the bluetooth on my console does not want to turn on so it just constantly tries to turn on so my controller can never connect.
Any help?
Do you have a usb keyboard and mouse to navigate with? if so I'd suggest going to the advanced settings menu (stock android settings) and try turning bluetooth on there. If you've already tried that and it doesn't work, your issue can be hardware or software. If it's hardware you're way past what I can help with, but if it's software these steps might work. Go to backup and reset under the same settings menu and do a factory reset. If that doesn't work the final step would be to follow the instructions to flash the latest ota software update through recovery. His instructions say to reboot and hit a key combination repeatedly to get recovery up, but if you have adb access you can just type "adb reboot recovery" in your terminal window and it will boot there directly.
Here's the link, good luck:
https://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/comment/11742/#Comment_11742
Thanks to MBM for the instructions, and Rayman for hosting the OTA downloads.
*disclaimer* I haven't tried this myself yet, but plan to tonight if you'd rather wait for a confirmation. Honestly though MBM has been working on the Ouya a lot longer than I have and his instructions line up with what I've done on other android devices. /*disclaimer*
one note about hulu plus. THe app you posted here 2.6 does not have options for keyboard control (which was indroduced in 2.8, the latest version.) for use with the controller, keyboards etc I have a copy of the apk which i will upload as soon as I have 10 posts and can post links (almost there haha). WHen I installed 2.8 by it self, it force closed but i was able to get it working by installing 2.6 from your post and then upgrading.
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Do you have a usb keyboard and mouse to navigate with? if so I'd suggest going to the advanced settings menu (stock android settings) and try turning bluetooth on there. If you've already tried that and it doesn't work, your issue can be hardware or software. If it's hardware you're way past what I can help with, but if it's software these steps might work. Go to backup and reset under the same settings menu and do a factory reset. If that doesn't work the final step would be to follow the instructions to flash the latest ota software update through recovery. His instructions say to reboot and hit a key combination repeatedly to get recovery up, but if you have adb access you can just type "adb reboot recovery" in your terminal window and it will boot there directly.
Here's the link, good luck:
Thanks to MBM for the instructions, and Rayman for hosting the OTA downloads.
*disclaimer* I haven't tried this myself yet, but plan to tonight if you'd rather wait for a confirmation. Honestly though MBM has been working on the Ouya a lot longer than I have and his instructions line up with what I've done on other android devices. /*disclaimer*
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I have been using xbmc for a while but I am new to using it on top of android. I recently sold me AppleTv and made the swtich to the Fire and I am very happy with my decision so far. That said launching the apps is a real pain. If I could get them in the actual fireTv menu this would be much more ideal as I am sure everyone agrees. To my knowledge that is still not possible at this point. So I am curious how everyone is running their apps. I have read some about launchers in XBMC is this the way to go? What is the best way to set this up?
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I have been using xbmc for a while but I am new to using it on top of android. I recently sold me AppleTv and made the swtich to the Fire and I am very happy with my decision so far. That said launching the apps is a real pain. If I could get them in the actual fireTv menu this would be much more ideal as I am sure everyone agrees. To my knowledge that is still not possible at this point. So I am curious how everyone is running their apps. I have read some about launchers in XBMC is this the way to go? What is the best way to set this up?
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sideload firedtv its the best option i've found for myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782307
I use XBMC as my launcher. You can add apps to your favourites to launch them easily or even integrate them into your skin if your skin permits it. Works very well so far. Only thing I use the Amazon launcher for is to force stop an App if it is stuck, still looking for a suitable app manager for this so I can ditch the Amazon launcher all together.
Is there any way to get the best of both worlds and use the fired launcher as the stock launcher but still be able to load apps from within XBMC. I am trying to keep this as user friendly as possible for the family who is a little overwhelmed by xbmc still.
mcsephoenix said:
Is there any way to get the best of both worlds and use the fired launcher as the stock launcher but still be able to load apps from within XBMC. I am trying to keep this as user friendly as possible for the family who is a little overwhelmed by xbmc still.
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This XBMC Launcher gives the best of both worlds and works great. There is a bit of a learning curve, as the Fire TV must be rooted for it to work. But well worth the effort when completed.
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This XBMC Launcher gives the best of both worlds and works great. There is a bit of a learning curve, as the Fire TV must be rooted for it to work. But well worth the effort when completed.
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Thanks, I saw that but I wasn't thrilled about having to uninstall my current revision of xbmc. I am rooted but I am thinking I might just give FiredTV a shot for now and wait until someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader.
mcsephoenix said:
Thanks, I saw that but I wasn't thrilled about having to uninstall my current revision of xbmc. I am rooted but I am thinking I might just give FiredTV a shot for now and wait until someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader.
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Just backup your XBMC User Data, uninstall current version, install the XBMC Launcher and finally restore XBMC User Data. Believe me, it is absolutely worth the trouble as this launcher is the best option out there at this time. FiredTV is OK but nowhere near as functional and allowing for many features. This launcher literally morphs the Fire TV into an XBMC box.
mjbxx said:
Just backup your XBMC User Data, uninstall current version, install the XBMC Launcher and finally restore XBMC User Data. Believe me, it is absolutely worth the trouble as this launcher is the best option out there at this time. FiredTV is OK but nowhere near as functional and allowing for many features. This launcher literally morphs the Fire TV into an XBMC box.
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I took your advice and bit the bullet made the leap last night. For the most part things went smoothly and I am very happy I took your advice. I was a little bummed to lose all my skin settings IE my shortcuts but it will be worth the effort to set them back up.
Thanks
Has anyone tried to install Andromium OS yet?
It is now available on the playstore now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
can't test it myself right now, but interested in your experiences.
App requires 4.4.2 As Said in discription. So it might not work.
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schybiorz said:
App requires 4.4.2 As Said in discription. So it might not work.
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buberlo said:
Has anyone tried to install Andromium OS yet?
It is now available on the playstore now
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
can't test it myself right now, but interested in your experiences.
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And I don't think our processor meets the minimum specs. Too bad. I'd love to try it.
Edit--I tried it. Side loaded it but it wouldn't show up under apps. So I pushed it to sdcard but it said parsing error (of some sort)
Only reason I tried is because for fun i installed it on my KFHD7 running CM 11 and it installed and ran relatively well. So I don't think it's the hardware that's the problem for aftv. This is a great idea btw. I only just heard about it in this thread.
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And I don't think our processor meets the minimum specs. Too bad. I'd love to try it.
Edit--I tried it. Side loaded it but it wouldn't show up under apps. So I pushed it to sdcard but it said parsing error (of some sort)
Only reason I tried is because for fun i installed it on my KFHD7 running CM 11 and it installed and ran relatively well. So I don't think it's the hardware that's the problem for aftv. This is a great idea btw. I only just heard about it in this thread.
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I played with it briefly this morning on my Galaxy Note 3. It doesn't seem like something worth using on the FTV, but for a tablet being used with a keyboard and mouse, it's very promising as a laptop alternative.
xm41907 said:
I played with it briefly this morning on my Galaxy Note 3. It doesn't seem like something worth using on the FTV, but for a tablet being used with a keyboard and mouse, it's very promising as a laptop alternative.
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I was thinking it would be a good option since the mouse cursor was broken with the last aftv update. I assume with andromium you'd have a web browser that's easier to use plus I like the way it can be easily launched/shutdown in the status bar (at least on phones and tablets), so those that use launchers might like it more. Guess it don't matter. There's little reason for amazon to upgrade aftv but hopefully we'll have a custom ROM in the future.
Their ad used to say you only needed Android 4.2 to use it so maybe you should edit the first post to ask people if they have the old apks from earlier this year, cause older versions may work. Just a couple months ago it was working wth android 4.2. So if anyone has version 0.1.3 or older they should post the APK here. Versions 0.1.4 and 0.1.5 do not work, but older versions probably do since they only required Android 4.2. I did a google search so I know there was versions numbered 0.1.1, 0.1.2 and 0.1.3, but could not find the apk files.
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I was thinking it would be a good option since the mouse cursor was broken with the last aftv update. I assume with andromium you'd have a web browser that's easier to use plus I like the way it can be easily launched/shutdown in the status bar (at least on phones and tablets), so those that use launchers might like it more. Guess it don't matter. There's little reason for amazon to upgrade aftv but hopefully we'll have a custom ROM in the future.
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If the mouse cursor is broken, wouldn't that make this even less usable? There is no native mouse cursor for Andronium so if the system cursor isn't visible, then it would be very difficult to control It does have a browser, and certain apps will work natively with it, but not many yet, and those that are supported do not fit inside a window. Only the Andronium specific apps will be windowed. Of the several hundred apps on my phone, only seven were natively supported. The others are hit or miss. . Since the FTV doesn't have a status bar, then that functionality would be lost on the FTV, as far as turning on and off Andronium. This app has lots of promise, but don't think it's a good fit.
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If the mouse cursor is broken, wouldn't that make this even less usable? There is no native mouse cursor for Andronium so if the system cursor isn't visible, then it would be very difficult to control It does have a browser, and certain apps will work natively with it, but not many yet, and those that are supported do not fit inside a window. Only the Andronium specific apps will be windowed. Of the several hundred apps on my phone, only seven were natively supported. The others are hit or miss. . Since the FTV doesn't have a status bar, then that functionality would be lost on the FTV, as far as turning on and off Andronium. This app has lots of promise, but don't think it's a good fit.
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You obviously looked into it more than me. What I saw was a clean desktop interface that I naturally assumed would run most applicable android apps. And thinking more...yea. Since the most cursor is now invisible in most apps, it most likely wouldn't show up in andromium either. Lots of potential there, but if its purpose is to be a PC alternative it has a ways to go.
KLit75 said:
You obviously looked into it more than me. What I saw was a clean desktop interface that I naturally assumed would run most applicable android apps. And thinking more...yea. Since the most cursor is now invisible in most apps, it most likely wouldn't show up in andromium either. Lots of potential there, but if its purpose is to be a PC alternative it has a ways to go.
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I was interested in it awhile back for my tablet for work trips. Much easier to bring along a bt keyboard and mouse to go with my tablet than both.
I'm a little late to the game here and missed rooting at 5.2.1.0, so now I seem stuck.
The last post from rbox on a recovery installer was 4th June 2016, and I couldn't find anything on that since, or any kind of downgrader.
Anyone have any news I've missed, or insider info?
What I really need is to mount CIF shares off my Synology for playing ROMs of various types. Any specific solution for that I may have missed?
Thanks bunches! :good:
MrPeach
MrPeach said:
I'm a little late to the game here and missed rooting at 5.2.1.0, so now I seem stuck.
The last post from rbox on a recovery installer was 4th June 2016, and I couldn't find anything on that since, or any kind of downgrader.
Anyone have any news I've missed, or insider info?
What I really need is to mount CIF shares off my Synology for playing ROMs of various types. Any specific solution for that I may have missed?
Thanks bunches! :good:
MrPeach
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In the same boat myself, doesnt seem to be any developmennts yet.
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
Ichijoe said:
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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Well as noted, what I care about is simply mounting a network share. While somewhat interesting, your comment adds nothing to this particular thread.
Ichijoe said:
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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I want to be able to add a usb Ethernet adapter. The fire stick 2 allows usb devices to be added natively. Ive contacted the Fire tv support team about a possible update to allow fire stick first gen to allow this without root, they said they would take it under consideration so probably no.
@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
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@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
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The Fire Stick has no ethernet port, it must be rooted in order to add one.
Sorry, missed that bit. Of course it (Firestick), doesn't.
Any news? Had an update mysteriously occur, moving it up to the latest firetv update. For some time, have been stuck without a solution. For list of what doesn't work at this date, neither the latest kingo root on pc with an a to a cable or the kingroot app work. Hoping sometime soon one of the remaining vulnerabilities is taken advantage of soon.
I've locked down my network in the meantime. Would recommend anybody that does care about root in the same boat as me do the same until a solution is found..
Sound advice... And BTW I do care about root. I just question the point of it on this Device. Which to my chagrin includes a bit more then the AFTV2... lol!
And, I concede their use cases aren't mine. And, at the moment the things I'd like to do on my AFTV2, which would otherwise require root as well. (i.e. PlayStore, and Dualshock 3 Support) have not brought me much joy even with root. So though I probably could have been less of a **** about it. I was generally interested in why others were so keen to root it. And I got my answer.
The only good news is that it's not a done deal with the FireOS, and eventuality another exploit shall be found, but you'll just have to hang on till then. Yeah sucks I know.
Lol. Yes it does suck.
I probably shouldn't have responded in that way either. It's hard to tell someone's intent based on a few lines in a thread. Didnt mean to come off bh.
Root has been good, was nice to be able to autostart the Kodi/spmc app and for me, using droidmote. that's a really great mouse keyboard app along with a ssh server and BusyBox... But then again, since I updated to the latest rooted ROM(5.2.1.1) in my other box, I've lost the autostart and some of the other bonuses. As much as I hate to do it, will have to start troubleshooting options maybe downgrade.
Til there's an option....
The Dirty Cow linux exploit was recently released (last week). This should allow root on the newer firmware versions (5.2.1.1, etc). Since it was just released last week people are working on it. This thread discusses the progress http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
and here is a post of someone who claims to have it working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69299542&postcount=39
I am working on getting this going on my AFTV2 with version 5.2.1.0.
clarke.hackworth said:
The Dirty Cow linux exploit was recently released (last week). This should allow root on the newer firmware versions (5.2.1.1, etc). Since it was just released last week people are working on it. This thread discusses the progress http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
and here is a post of someone who claims to have it working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69299542&postcount=39
I am working on getting this going on my AFTV2 with version 5.2.1.0.
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Cool, looks promising, thanks.
I know that Android, is kind of a fork of Linux. But, isn't that kinda the point? Are we even sure that this 'ploit affects Android?
I'm in the same boat as you guys, i also wait for a 5.2.1.1 root
In my case i want to install the root-version of the moonlight streaming app which has native mouse support so i can finally play mouse/keyboard games on my home cinema (The non-root version is kinda buggy... scaling-problems, stuttering, no off-screen-movment, and so on..)
Ichijoe said:
With all do respect as someone who has managed to root his AFTV at unbox time. What exactly IS the benefit of rooting the AFTV2? And, no this is not a rhetorical question.
One of the big hopes I've had about rooting the AFTV2 was to get Google PlayStore, and Gapps working. Well if the ever had, it seems that I too may have missed that Boat. As they do NOT seem to work under 5.2.1.1.
The only other reason why I might have wanted Root, pairing a Sixaxis Dualshock 3 Controller with my AFTV2. 'Cause I'm too cheep for an Amazon Controller. Doesn't work either, and in fact will cause the AFTV2 to crash, and reboot itself.
As for AdAway, (My prime motivation for rooting anything!), well I've yet to find a use for it. It doesn't block anything in the Fire Launcher. Not that I think it should anyway. But nothing I've ran into yet even has any in-app advertising.
Side loading Kodi never really required root, and has otherwise worked fine.
IMHO root on the AFTV2 is a tad overrated, for all you can do with it, or actually what you still can't do with it.
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The reason I am looking for root is to be able to run the firestick on a VPN, which requires root.
Ichijoe said:
I know that Android, is kind of a fork of Linux. But, isn't that kinda the point? Are we even sure that this 'ploit affects Android?
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Yes the exploit effects Android.
FYI, the issue is a vulnerability in how the Linux kernel handles memory / files. Android is just a specific set of applications running on Linux, so it is exploitable. I have used the exploit to modify files in /system and /etc on my FireTV running 5.2.1.1.
Starting with FireTV 5.2.1.0 SELinux is enabled which is an extra layer of protection. It is good from a security stand point -- it helps protects your device from malicious apps, etc. However in our case the "attacker" is the owner of the device ... us. People are working on bypassing SELinux protections, and making progress.
See this blog for some really technical info on the current status: https://v-e-o.blogspot.com/2016/10/way-to-android-init-with-cve-2016-5195.html
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The reason I am looking for root is to be able to run the firestick on a VPN, which requires root.
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is vpn used for on the ftv aside from accessing content from different countries like Netflix and to possibly make it safer for one to stream certain content?
Well IIRC... One could set up a VPN, to log back into one Network (e.g. Network Storage), from an outside source (i.e. a Hotel Room), to push, and pull Files p, at will. But I think you managed to cover most of the "uses" of a VPN already.
Emulator ROMs
Ichijoe said:
@MrPeach
Surly you could add a network share from inside Kodi or? I kinda fail to see the point of it outside of Kodi otherwise.
@tylercheribini
Well I could imagine why some people might want to have two Ethernet Ports. I find little use for mine while on 802.11ac. But at least this is concept I can work with.
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As I implied in my original post - emulators generally do not support accessing network shares (where my extensive ROM collection is) directly. This leaves copying ROMs to the Fire TV itself to use them or copying my ROM collection to an external USB drive, neither option of which I find acceptable.
I want to access my extensive ROM collection directly via a SMB mapped folder on my Synology NAS, which research has informed me is only possible on a rooted device.
This isn't about Kodi, an extra ethernet port or any of the other stuff other people have mentioned in this thread.