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[Q] Upgrading to lollipop / unlocked / rooted /xposed working /deodexed

Since lollipop is out now for the z1 compact there are a lot of threads about upgrading, rooting, xposed working - not working.
Just as many of you I'm running on kitkat / unlocked / rooted and I make use of xposed modules.
I've been looking through some of those threads but once you think you know the way to go there will be somebody else experiencing problems with that specific method.
I'm looking for a broader perspective.
Just as there are threads about how to upgrade there are also a lot of bugs mentioned but not everybody seems to be impacted by them.
And there are of course the custom roms, some kitkat based some lollipop based.
Before switching to the xperia I used a HTC One and there was a custom rom developer who would stick to the options foreseen in the original one but he changed the code for speed and reliability, it was also based on a aroma installer that gave the choice to leave some bloatware out at installation time.
This is something I would like to see happening for the z1c, not just adding new features but streamlining the existing rom.
As of now I'm running on the xzdualrecovery on a rooted and unlocked kitkat and I'm using some xposed modues.
I consider upgrading if I knew more about the bugs, will I be impacted and I'm looking for a complete guide on how to.
As far as I know the Italian customized rom is the one with the least bloatware in it, so that is he one I'd like to use as a start
Some people already have reported zip files you can flash from recovery and they seem to be pre-rooted. Do I need to use one of them or is it possible to
flash a rom
unlock or do I need the unlocked bootloader from the beginning?
root it
make sure xposed runs, xposed seems to need deodexed roms, are they available?
So I like to see a plan on how to
Unlock
root
upgrade
make xposed running
have a correct bootloader
and have a recovery (xzdualrecovery or something else)
I know this is a list of questions but such a guide would help a lot of people like me, I'm not a complete newbie but I'm neither a rom developer so I like a guide on how to accomplish things.
If the stock rom is bugfree and stable enough that's the one I'd stick to, otherwise I need to have a look at custom roms and then I think I need to consult the custom rom developer on how to install his/her custom rom.
All the above mentioned questions will be related to installing / unlocking / rooting a stock rom.

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At least I have one guide
http://techbeasts.com/2015/04/20/root-xperia-z1-compact-d5503-14-5-a-0-242-5-0-2-firmware-plus-recovery/
This seems enough for unlocking and rooting, don't know about xposed, they don't mention it.
Even then they talk about how to unlock your bootloader.
I've done it this way in the past but I'm unsure if the bootloader for KK is the same as for Lollipop, I have no idea if this is changed. There is a thread about an unlocked bootloader, I'll ask over there if they know about differences between LP and KK, if there are none then we have guide explaining all the steps

I do not have any info yet on the bootloader but I do have some more news on Xposed.
It's not only the Xperia that's having problems with xposed on lollipop, other phones are impacted as well.
Once a certain number of apps is installed the bootlooping starts.
Xposed seems to open too many files at boot time.
A solution is to find out how many apps may be installed on your phone before it gets into a bootloop.
Another (and better) solution is to increase the upper limit of open files at boot time, but this is only available on an unlocked bootlader since it requires a modified kernel to be installed.
A lot of posts can be found at Xposed for lollipop.
Since xposed is still in an alpha phase I think rovo89 will fix this in a future release of xposed.
If you want to fix this right now you can have a look at this thread
The post about the changed kernel is this one

I am on stock RU version, heard it was the best I have also had some bootloop experiences with xposed. Some guys have reported success but their method requires a "bloatware" script that removes ****load of useful apps. Bleh!
Right now it's just wait and see. I miss xposed but am also really enjoying this lollipop update, the performance (too soon?) looks better than the custom roms available. IMO

Lg G3 (Root,Unroot and Roms Questions)

Hello to everybody !!!
I am new on xda developers and also new to android.I have been made a lot of mods on my previous phone iPhone.
I bought a new LG G3 D855 32 GB in Greece
I want to root my phone ,flash a rom but i dont know how.
I am very confused with the threads.
Please can somebody tell me :
1 )how to root
2) how to make a custom rom and how to install
3)How can i find the right stock rom for my phone and how to return to stock rom (I have the 32 Gb model and software version V20h-EUR-XX)

Konstantinosdj said:
Hello to everybody !!!
I am new on xda developers and also new to android.I have been made a lot of mods on my previous phone iPhone.
I bought a new LG G3 D855 32 GB in Greece
I want to root my phone ,flash a rom but i dont know how.
I am very confused with the threads.
Please can somebody tell me :
1 )how to root
2) how to make a custom rom and how to install
3)How can i find the right stock rom for my phone and how to return to stock rom (I have the 32 Gb model and software version V20h-EUR-XX)
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Welcome to Android!
I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun
Typically you'll find a tab saying root info for each phone model in the forum. However, these tabs (same for ROMs) are typically not as updated as the forum threads. You'll find most info/guides for that kind of stuff in general, seeing how in most cases in concerns the phone in general, more-so than a specific development for the phone (such as a specific phone).
Make sure you carefully read the original post for each software seeing how different softwares can only be used in certain situations. For example, the LG G3 comes in different models, and some software only work for the specific ones, some things are developed for certain android versions (such as lollipop vs. kitkat), some softwares are developed for stock-based roms, and some are developed for aosp-based roms, and the list goes on.
It's not as complicated as it sounds, and it doesn't take as long as you might imagine to get settled, but it takes some getting used to.
To answer your specific questions:
1 )how to root
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
2) how to make a custom rom and how to install
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1. After you've rooted your phone, you need to install a custom recovery (http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-thread-lg-g3-question-t2947298, check Q4).
2. When done with that you download a [ROM (whatever the rom is called)].zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772658), and typically Gapps, and place on SD card.
3. Boot into recovery, and wipe the phone (I usually go for factory reset/make fresh install + wipe cache + wipe Dalvik-cache)
4. Now you need to flash the ROM + gapps. Do that by install zip --> install from SD card --> click the [ROM].zip (and then gapps)
5. Reboot and enjoy!
3)How can i find the right stock rom for my phone and how to return to stock rom (I have the 32 Gb model and software version V20h-EUR-XX)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089
I'll admit that I have not read the specifics of each thread I've linked, so make sure that it applies to you before you go about and install stuff (by reading first post in each thread). Also, how you install might differ a little from rom to rom, so only use my instructions as additional instructions to the instructions typically written in the first post for each rom/software.
Note! Everytime you go about fiddling with the phone you do run the risk of bricking it. However, the risk of hard bricking your phone is quite slim as long as you read up a bit before messing about. On top of that, if anything would happen, such as a bootloop or soft bricking, just keep it cool. It happens to all of us from time to time, and I'll bet you that the very same thing you did wrong, has happened to someone before you, so just search the threads (starting with the thread it relates to). If you feel like playing safe, I would suggest you start off with one of the more established ROM-devs, such as CM.
I hope this helps!

Thank you munte89 for all your answers.i hope all this can help me.I have one more question.
LG G3 has 2 versions.16 GB & 32 GB .Is the firmware same for both or has each device his own firmware ??

Konstantinosdj said:
Anybody ????
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Tip for the future: check out the pinned threads in each sub-forum because they typically pin threads concerning questions that arise often (such as how to get started)

Thank you munte89 for all your answers.i hope all this can help me.I have one more question.
LG G3 has 2 versions.16 GB & 32 GB .Is the firmware same for both or has each device his own firmware ??

Konstantinosdj said:
Thank you munte89 for all your answers.i hope all this can help me.I have one more question.
LG G3 has 2 versions.16 GB & 32 GB .Is the firmware same for both or has each device his own firmware ??
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No worries! I know it can be difficult getting started
Well, it's different firmwares sometimes (eg different stocks). This is typically clearly pointed out in the instructions if that is the case. I have not encountered that where it comes to the custom ROMs, except for making sure you have the right model (eg D855). After you've installed a new ROM, you might want to go to settings --> about phone to check the information for any clues of using the wrong software.

Questions about rooting from a noob.

Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying an LG G4 because it's gotten very cheap now and I want to use it as my daily driver.
I'll be getting the international version and I want to root my phone before properly setting it up. The reason for this is that I want xposed to make some ui changes as I feel the G4's ui is horrible (no offence). I've heard I'll need a custom kernel, twrp recovery, unlocked bootloader and root access.
I've also heard that with custom roms you lose functionality to things such as the IR blaster and the amazing camera app and all its settings. Is that true? If that is the case, I'd rather keep on stock rom with xposed helping me make the UI bearable.
My question is what would I exactly need to do? (with kernels, recovery, bootloaders etc I have only rooted a device once and it was 4 years ago so I have forgotten the basics plus it seems the whole process has become very tough now) The only end product I want is to run the xposed while retaining the IR blaster functionality and the camera app etc.
I have tried going through some videos on youtube but I found them vague, a little different from what I wanted or I saw a few comments talking about how the phone was bricked or stuck in bootloop.

Hadisultan said:
Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying an LG G4 because it's gotten very cheap now and I want to use it as my daily driver.
I'll be getting the international version and I want to root my phone before properly setting it up. The reason for this is that I want xposed to make some ui changes as I feel the G4's ui is horrible (no offence). I've heard I'll need a custom kernel, twrp recovery, unlocked bootloader and root access.
I've also heard that with custom roms you lose functionality to things such as the IR blaster and the amazing camera app and all its settings. Is that true? If that is the case, I'd rather keep on stock rom with xposed helping me make the UI bearable.
My question is what would I exactly need to do? (with kernels, recovery, bootloaders etc I have only rooted a device once and it was 4 years ago so I have forgotten the basics plus it seems the whole process has become very tough now) The only end product I want is to run the xposed while retaining the IR blaster functionality and the camera app etc.
I have tried going through some videos on youtube but I found them vague, a little different from what I wanted or I saw a few comments talking about how the phone was bricked or stuck in bootloop.
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Hi buddy , if your phone comes and it's on lollipop the type in Google " root lg g4 lollipop xda " but if it arrives on marshmallow then type " root lg g4 marshmallow xda " as for losing functions like the IR blaster and camera , I'm using latest Genisys ROM marshmallow version with the Imperium kernel and I have all my features still working they will only stop working if you flash a ROM which isn't based on LG for example Cyanogen or blisspop things like that....
If I have helped please leave a thumbs up!

Xceeder said:
Hi buddy , if your phone comes and it's on lollipop the type in Google " root lg g4 lollipop xda " but if it arrives on marshmallow then type " root lg g4 marshmallow xda " as for losing functions like the IR blaster and camera , I'm using latest Genisys ROM marshmallow version with the Imperium kernel and I have all my features still working they will only stop working if you flash a ROM which isn't based on LG for example Cyanogen or blisspop things like that....
If I have helped please leave a thumbs up!
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Hi, thanks for the reply! How is the performance compared to the stock rom? What other benefits does a g4 based rom give?
Also, I still find the process a little confusing. Am I supposed to root first, unlock bootloader or install a recovery. Also what are the chances of bricking my phone?

Hadisultan said:
Hi, thanks for the reply! How is the performance compared to the stock rom? What other benefits does a g4 based rom give?
Also, I still find the process a little confusing. Am I supposed to root first, unlock bootloader or install a recovery. Also what are the chances of bricking my phone?
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Well first of all the performance depends there are options when installing different kernels which will give you better speed or better battery life the choices will be written in the kernel or ROMs description , the other benefits are debloated ROMs which means the software on the phone has been reduced to free up space and get rid of useless stuff and other little UI tweaks it just depends which ROM you choose as for the process you unlock your bootloader first via lg devs official site then depending on how you root will depend when you root it I'll explain , if your phone arrives and its on lollipop then use low effort root but if it comes and its on marshmallow then you use systemless root method and I won't bull**** ya pal the chances of messing your phone up is about 30 percent just make sure you follow every single step very carefully , the reason I said 30 percent is because if you're on lollipop then it's easier in my opinion to restore your phone by flashing the .kdz stock file for your phone ( the .kdz will make your phone like you bought it)
If my posts have helped please leave a thumbs up!

Xceeder said:
Well first of all the performance depends there are options when installing different kernels which will give you better speed or better battery life the choices will be written in the kernel or ROMs description , the other benefits are debloated ROMs which means the software on the phone has been reduced to free up space and get rid of useless stuff and other little UI tweaks it just depends which ROM you choose as for the process you unlock your bootloader first via lg devs official site then depending on how you root will depend when you root it I'll explain , if your phone arrives and its on lollipop then use low effort root but if it comes and its on marshmallow then you use systemless root method and I won't bull**** ya pal the chances of messing your phone up is about 30 percent just make sure you follow every single step very carefully , the reason I said 30 percent is because if you're on lollipop then it's easier in my opinion to restore your phone by flashing the .kdz stock file for your phone ( the .kdz will make your phone like you bought it)
If my posts have helped please leave a thumbs up!
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What are the advantages of the rom that you're using?
30 percent sounds like a lot, but are you saying that I can restore my phone even if I mess up the process?
Also can you link me to the methods?

The advantages of the ROM I'm using is good battery life with a good balanced performance also it has the LG G5 apps built in to it , and yes you can restore your phone as for the links to the methods I'm chatting to you on my tablet so gathering all the links would be quite hard they are easily found though for example if you are searching for low effort root then just type it in Google followed by xda so it looks like low effort root method xda , if you really want the links then I'll boot up my PC in the morning and I'll find them all for you , it's night time where I am so I'm going to bed soon I'll check your post though in the morning in case you have any more questions and as always please leave a thumbs up I greatly appreciate it , thanks buddy....
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Hadisultan said:
What are the advantages of the rom that you're using?
30 percent sounds like a lot, but are you saying that I can restore my phone even if I mess up the process?
Also can you link me to the methods?
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Xceeder said:
The advantages of the ROM I'm using is good battery life with a good balanced performance also it has the LG G5 apps built in to it , and yes you can restore your phone as for the links to the methods I'm chatting to you on my tablet so gathering all the links would be quite hard they are easily found though for example if you are searching for low effort root then just type it in Google followed by xda so it looks like low effort root method xda , if you really want the links then I'll boot up my PC in the morning and I'll find them all for you , it's night time where I am so I'm going to bed soon I'll check your post though in the morning in case you have any more questions and as always please leave a thumbs up I greatly appreciate it , thanks buddy....
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No problem mate, I found the link to the low effort btw.
So I'll have to unlock bootloader via the lg website first? then I'll have to install a custom recovery and then root? (or root and then install custom recovery?)
Also I was going through the thread of the rom you're using, and I saw the screenshots and they were pretty much the same as the lg ui (which I'm trying to run away from). Basically what I want is a stock android ui without losing the core functionality like the IR blaster and the camera app, knock code etc.
A question I have is do I have to change the kernel etc while rooting my device or can I just use the stock kernel?

I just did all of these things this morning. I posted my steps here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/howto-complete-guide-to-unlock-twrp-t3370003
I personally stopped installing custom ROMs since Xposed. It lets use keep the phone as it is out of the box but add in just the changes we want. With many custom ROMs, there are always bugs so you'll have to update them and that can mean resetting your device. You then have to install all your apps and settings again.
I tried to make the above guide as noob friendly as possible and it hopefully shouldn't require any reading outside of the thread.

About to recieve a OnePlus 3. Anything I should need to know?

I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)

ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...

Xceeder said:
The ROM you want to use can only be your decision based on what features you want for example if you want loads of tweaking features then I'd suggest resurrection remix and for the very latest android version then oxygen OS or lineage 8.0 both are good in their own ways you'd have to check the description to see which suits your needs , one big tip I can give you though is to always use the latest blu_spark recovery because its been modified to support a variety of ROMs and if your a flashaholic like me then always perform a nandroid backup before switching ROMs its simple advice but can save you loads of time if you don't like the ROM you've chosen and obviously before trying to unlock the bootloader via adb then enable developer options and enable OEM unlocking (some people forget) good luck and enjoy this wicked phone...
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Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.

ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna go TWRP since that's all I have heard about, I got drawn in by the LG V10 by marketing, sucked so now going towards a phone that will last. Not having to rely on AT&T for updates is a surefire way to get that.
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I had an LG G4 , great phone but I too suffered the bootloop problem and LG did nothing to refund me so no more LG phones for me , p.s please leave a thumbs up on my posts if I've helped I truly appreciate it and if you need any more help just come back to this post and quote my message and I'll help as best I can ...

ZVNexus said:
I bought this device today.
I got it because I wanted to get into custom ROMs/Root.
Is there anything I need to know about this phone that will be helpful? Tips & Tricks?
Also I hear talk of Lineage OS vs Oxygen. Which is better and why? (Please don't be LINEAGE OF COURSE FTW, I want reasons. Couldn't find that anywhere)
Should I chose Oxygen beta 8.0, or the Lineage beta for 8.0?
Coming from an LG V10 (AT&T) where I couldn't modify it for ****, and broke after a little over a year (LG Bootloop issue)
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Flash Zenity RR as soon as you get a chance! It's an awesome ROM.

ZVNexus said:
Ah ok thanks for that blu_spark bit, I was just gonna stick with stock kernel, but now I am seeing the benefits of custom ones.
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Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.

tnsmani said:
Xceeder was talking about recovery, not kernel. Since this phone is new for you, certain idiosyncrasies of this phone must be learnt. One of them is the recovery. Ofcourse official TWRP is there but it will not work with many custom ROMs. One of the best recoveries for this phone is made by bluspark who is well-known for his kernels. It is that recovery which Xceeder was talking about. I also use the same.
As regards ROMs, apart from what Xceeder stated, if you are satisfied with a smooth and battery friendly ROM, I can recommend VertexOS. But it will not have any bells or whistles. Another battery friendly and smooth ROM with some tweaks built-in is PureFusion. Both these I have used. But if you need many tweaks, go with Xceeder's recommendations. As he said, ROMs are a personal choice and what I like, you may not. So read about a few, flash a few and finalise.
Advance wishes for a happy experience.
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Ah ok only reason I said kernel was because [kernel] was the first thing that came up when I typed in blu_spark.

HTC 10 Oreo Battery --> SHOULD I ROOT?

Hello, I am new to XDA and I have an un rooted HTC 10 international unlocked model on software 3.16.401.2. My HTC used to have excellent battery before the Oreo update. I did multiple tests and checks to see what the issue could be and have ruled out rogue apps or hardware issues.
I have never rooted any of my phones before but I am desperate as the battery has tanked so badly
NOW TO THE POINT
I am looking for advice on:
1. If rooting my device and using a custom version of Oreo will actually improve battery issues. (Are there others who rooted for the reason I'm considering, if so did you actually notice an improvement?)
2. If so, what is the safest/most newbie friendly method of me doing this.
PLEASE NOTE: I am very satisfied otherwise with the standard features. I have switched between htc sense launcher and smart launcher but otherwise use the phone very conventionally. I am not opposed to different features but I essentially would like to have as close to what I have now without the battery issues.
(Sorry in advance if there are 100 similar threads I'm already very concerned I'll mess
this up and manage to brick my phone so I am just trying to get clear information in a thread that's not oversaturated and is written in a layman friendly (PLEASE ) way)
Thank you everyone!

SMSJA said:
Hello, I am new to XDA and I have an un rooted HTC 10 international unlocked model on software 3.16.401.2. My HTC used to have excellent battery before the Oreo update. I did multiple tests and checks to see what the issue could be and have ruled out rogue apps or hardware issues.
I have never rooted any of my phones before but I am desperate as the battery has tanked so badly
NOW TO THE POINT
I am looking for advice on:
1. If rooting my device and using a custom version of Oreo will actually improve battery issues. (Are there others who rooted for the reason I'm considering, if so did you actually notice an improvement?)
2. If so, what is the safest/most newbie friendly method of me doing this.
PLEASE NOTE: I am very satisfied otherwise with the standard features. I have switched between htc sense launcher and smart launcher but otherwise use the phone very conventionally. I am not opposed to different features but I essentially would like to have as close to what I have now without the battery issues.
(Sorry in advance if there are 100 similar threads I'm already very concerned I'll mess
this up and manage to brick my phone so I am just trying to get clear information in a thread that's not oversaturated and is written in a layman friendly (PLEASE ) way)
Thank you everyone!
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1: No, routing your OS won't be the fix for your battery problems.
2: it's the way everybody had to do it, unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP with fastboot and flash a custom rom. It's all explained in the guides section.

Mr Hofs said:
1: No, routing your OS won't be the fix for your battery problems.
2: it's the way everybody had to do it, unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP with fastboot and flash a custom rom. It's all explained in the guides section.
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Thanks for your response! I am currently doing more research now after reading your helpful comment ?. Would I still be able to use the phones default launcher (HTC sense in my case) after unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom rom or will every part of the UI now be different?

Mr Hofs said:
1: No, routing your OS won't be the fix for your battery problems.
2: it's the way everybody had to do it, unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP with fastboot and flash a custom rom. It's all explained in the guides section.
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What about gaining S-Off and reverting to Nougat and Nougat firmware? Seems with all the battery complaints that came along with the Oreo update, there is some validity in asking such a question.

SMSJA said:
Thanks for your response! I am currently doing more research now after reading your helpful comment ?. Would I still be able to use the phones default launcher (HTC sense in my case) after unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom rom or will every part of the UI now be different?
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Yes as long as you flash a sense based rom the UI will not change.
product26 said:
What about gaining S-Off and reverting to Nougat and Nougat firmware? Seems with all the battery complaints that came along with the Oreo update, there is some validity in asking such a question.
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You can also downgrade without s-off but it's a bit trickier, there is a dedicated thread in the guides section that covered this. Have a look there for all info, there is also a video in that specific thread that shows how to do it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/downgrade-problems-downgrading-htc-10-t3735658/page48
But the basic question is also relevant, yes you can gain s-off and downgrade by flashing the firmware and then the ruu or a custom nougat rom.