Root without HTCDev - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just acquired a used M8 and would like to unlock the bootloader without HTCdev.
I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475914
Which explains how to do so with S-OFF. I am willing to pay the 25$ for Sunshine, but apparently it requires root. So if I need to root, I need to register at HTCdev either way? What the use of unlocking the bootloader then if HTC already knows?

theevilworm said:
I just acquired a used M8 and would like to unlock the bootloader without HTCdev.
I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475914
Which explains how to do so with S-OFF. I am willing to pay the 25$ for Sunshine, but apparently it requires root. So if I need to root, I need to register at HTCdev either way? What the use of unlocking the bootloader then if HTC already knows?
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pretty sure sunshine will s-off and unlock your bootloader for you and will also set temp root whilst it works, give it a try, if it cant do it then you don't pay anyway. http://theroot.ninja/
If your phone is 2nd hand, does it have any warranty left on it, and if not, then why not just unlock via HTC dev, I did it on a brand new M8 3 months ago with 2 years warranty left on it.#, in order to flash a custom recovery, root and run sunshine, just my preferred way of doing it and only 10 mins work for the lot.

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[Q] Unlock via HTCDev voids warrenty and S-off not..?

Hey guys..
I just read a thread and it made me confused. --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603422
As what I think I read.. it says the following thing.
- HTCDev (by HTC Officially) has given a tool to unlock your HTC one X to do anything with it you want, such as roms and tweaks.
BUT This may or even will void your warrenty.
- There is not, but coming, a tool from our XDA-Devs that also will unlock our HTC one X, But this will NOT void our warrenty.
I'm really confused right now. What's true, what's not, please make up this for me?
I want to unlock my HTC for an other Rom, but don't want to get my warrenty voided.
Thanks!
Doing it through HTCDev means HTC has a record that you unlocked your phone. What the quoted message is saying that there are or will be unofficial ways to do the same thing, and thus bypassing HTCDev and therefore not voiding your warranty, cos they don't have an official record of it.
EDIT : HTCDev doesn't give you S-Off, just an unlocked bootloader. With S-Off you can change your radios and kernels. With an unlocked bootloader you can flash roms and get root (correct me if i'm wrong, unless HTCDev unlocks bootloader and also grants access to kernel)
Read this.

New to the M8 scene

Im getting an M8 very shortly on T-Mobile. Ive read topics about unlocking and s off but im still counfused.
My goal is to have an unlocked bootloader, S-OFF, root, TWRP, and CM11.
i thought it would be simple. HTCDev, Firewater, etc.
but now i read more and now my process is
Root, HTCDev, S-OFF, Remove Red Text, Remove Tampered logo, SuperCID, TWRP, CM11
So some questions came up
Is there a way to unlock the bootloader without the red text.
Does Firewater work on all M8s
how do i remove the tampered logo
Thanks in advance!
You just need
HTCdev
Flash TWRP with fastboot
Flash CM11 from TWRP
The rest is optional. Firewater might not workd on newer M8 software, but Sunshine probably will.
BenPope said:
You just need
HTCdev
Flash TWRP with fastboot
Flash CM11 from TWRP
The rest is optional. Firewater might not workd on newer M8 software, but Sunshine probably will.
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Thank you. That helps a ton.
If you are going to S-Off, you don't even need HTCDev.
Download the latest Sunshine, pay $25 and you will be S-Off, no need to root beforehand anymore (I believe the latest version of sunshine takes care of this for you.)
From Sunshine post - Update 1.6
SunShine has been updated and no longer needs your device to be rooted or unlocked before running. SunShine will gain root itself, and unlock/s-off every variant of the m8 currently. Cheers!

[Q] Confused about sunshine

What does sunshine do that HTCDev doesn't do? I'm really very confused.
Sunshine S-off's your phone, as well as unlocking the bootloader. HTCdev unlocks your bootloader but leaves security/signing on (S-on) Also, the method Sunshine uses to unlock your bootloader doesn't trip a factory reset.
You don't typically need to turn security/signing off unless you want to change your CID/MID (to convert your handset to a different region) or go back to an older version of firmware/software.
AlecRobertson said:
What does sunshine do that HTCDev doesn't do? I'm really very confused.
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HTC dev only unlocks the boot loader, sunshine or firewater provides full s off which lifts restrictions to partitions that are normally locked down.
Check the below thread for explanations.
Thread updated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744194
Thank link is invalid.
Also, I have got s-off previously without using this?
AlecRobertson said:
Also, I have got s-off previously without using this?
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So in bootloader (or alternately, adb getvar all) it indicates s-off?
If so, and you didn't do firewater or sunshine, then its factory s-off. Its rare, but I've seen it here from time to time.

[Q] cant flash twrp Htc m9

twrp dose not flash with m9
after unlock bootloader
C:\Users\isoo\Desktop\M9\platform-tools>fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
target reported max download size of 800000000 bytes
sending 'recovery' (35960 KB)...
OKAY [ 2.970s]
writing 'recovery'...
(bootloader) HOSD CL#506785
FAILED (remote: 4: SD_BATTERY_LOW, BATTERY LEVEL < (30%))
finished. total time: 3.994s
whats wrong with that ???
:crying:
Looks like you need to charge your battery
I believe it's recommended >50%
How did you get the bootloader unlocked on an HTC running on Verizon?
swieder711 said:
How did you get the bootloader unlocked on an HTC running on Verizon?
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Java Card
andybones said:
Java Card
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Java Card also unlocks the bootloader in addition to making it S-OFF?
I figured being S-Off you would have to SuperCid to fool HTCDev or do it through ADB like on the DNA/M7 to unlock.....Scotty had threads on that.
Good to know the Java card takes care of that, too!
bakemcbride21 said:
Java Card also unlocks the bootloader in addition to making it S-OFF?
I figured being S-Off you would have to SuperCid to fool HTCDev or do it through ADB like on the DNA/M7 to unlock.....Scotty had threads on that.
Good to know the Java card takes care of that, too!
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I don't believe their is any reason to use HTCDev.com once you are already S-OFF - however, don't quote me on this.
The reason that VZW doesn't have S-OFF (yet) on the M9, and the rest of the carriers do, is because HTCDev.com works on the other carriers. *I believe* It is part of the the SunShine process for the other M9 carriers to 1st root the phone/unlock bootloader through HTCDev.com then use SunShine to S-OFF the device and fully unlock everything.
The Java Card however, will give you S-OFF, without the need of HTCDev.com - fully unlocking the device.
Anyone feel free to correct me on anything I said here. S-OFF/Security is not my area of expertise
andybones said:
I don't believe their is any reason to use HTCDev.com once you are already S-OFF - however, don't quote me on this.
The reason that VZW doesn't have S-OFF (yet) on the M9, and the rest of the carriers do, is because HTCDev.com works on the other carriers. *I believe* It is part of the the SunShine process for the other M9 carriers to 1st root the phone/unlock bootloader through HTCDev.com then use SunShine to S-OFF the device and fully unlock everything.
The Java Card however, will give you S-OFF, without the need of HTCDev.com - fully unlocking the device.
Anyone feel free to correct me on anything I said here. S-OFF/Security is not my area of expertise
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Your bootloader can still be locked if you're S-OFF....just that being S-OFF allows you to unlock it in a few ways...back on other phones that was using super cid to fool htc dev that you aren't a Verizon phone or using adb commands...ie my reference to Scotty's threads. That's how I did my DNA (supercid) and I think my M8 (adb) after getting S-OFF.
Firewater and moonshine only did S-OFF if I remember and now sunshine does both for you (S-OFF and unlock) but having one is not necessarily dispositive or dependent on the other (along with root). Granted these three things usually go hand in hand...but you can have just root, or just an unlocked boot loader, or just S-OFF and not the other two. However, S-OFF makes it infinitely easier to get the other two since you have complete control over your phone...ie if you handed me an HTC phone and said I can only have one of the three...I'd choose S-OFF because then I could get the other two much easier than it is for me just having root and figuring how to get S-OFF without jcase and beaups lol
bakemcbride21 said:
Your bootloader can still be locked if you're S-OFF....just that being S-OFF allows you to unlock it in a few ways...back on other phones that was using super cid to fool htc dev that you aren't a Verizon phone or using adb commands...ie my reference to Scotty's threads. That's how I did my DNA (supercid) and I think my M8 (adb) after getting S-OFF.
Firewater and moonshine only did S-OFF if I remember and now sunshine does both for you (S-OFF and unlock) but having one is not necessarily dispositive or dependent on the other (along with root). Granted these three things usually go hand in hand...but you can have just root, or just an unlocked boot loader, or just S-OFF and not the other two. However, S-OFF makes it infinitely easier to get the other two since you have complete control over your phone...ie if you handed me an HTC phone and said I can only have one of the three...I'd choose S-OFF because then I could get the other two much easier than it is for me just having root and figuring how to get S-OFF without jcase and beaups lol
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I personally would think that everyone would choose S-OFF over root (on an HTC device)... but that is me. ya never know.
As for Java Clip, this does only do S-OFF, then you must run the echo adb cmd to unlock bootloader, as you mentioned.
The S-OFF methods provided by SunShine, and previous methods such as firewater however, my understanding they do this command in their tool.
Again, not my area of expertise, however. Certainly not trying to argue or anything.
bakemcbride21 said:
Java Card also unlocks the bootloader in addition to making it S-OFF?
I figured being S-Off you would have to SuperCid to fool HTCDev or do it through ADB like on the DNA/M7 to unlock.....Scotty had threads on that.
Good to know the Java card takes care of that, too!
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It doesn't but once s-off you can simply unlock the bootloader using an ADB command.
When I use a card to s-off a device I always flash the latest TWRP... and then run the adb command to unlock the BL and while i'm there I flash the supersubeta.zip
let the flood gates open
Head over to the regular HTC One M9 section after you achieved s-off. Here is the thread for unlocking your bootloader without HTC dev via adb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-lock-unlock-bootloader-htcdevs-t3092036
dottat said:
It doesn't but once s-off you can simply unlock the bootloader using an ADB command.
When I use a card to s-off a device I always flash the latest TWRP... and then run the adb command to unlock the BL and while i'm there I flash the supersubeta.zip
let the flood gates open
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Definitely need more morning coffee....I was initially for just a second like..."what the hell is super sub eta? Lol smacking myself to wake up.
Cool to know the process! I'll probably be filling the gas tank for a road trip next week!
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mtva24 said:
Head over to the regular HTC One M9 section after you achieved s-off. Here is the thread for unlocking your bootloader without HTC dev via adb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-lock-unlock-bootloader-htcdevs-t3092036
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Bookmarked! Thanks!

HTC ONE m8 4.4.4 unlock bootloader help!

Hello guys, I have had my htc one m8 for a while now and wanted to root the device. After looking through many websites, i realized that you had to unlock the boot-loader. However, when i went to check my fast-boot, i saw that the boot-loader was locked but instead of being S-ON it was S-OFF and i can't unlock the boot loader using htcdev. How do i unlock the boot-loader with s-off?
Kind regards,
Arbaaz
What happens when you try to unlock the bootloader by HTCDev.com? S-off shouldn't prevent you from doing so. If you are having issue with unlocking the bootloader, I have a feeling its due to other factors, not s-off.
Since you are s-off, you can use the following thread to manually change the bootloader flag to UNLOCKED: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
Another possibility, is if the phone was s-off by sunshine, the device would still have a valid sunshine license. Just install the sunshine app, and see if you can unlock the bootloader using the app (no HTCDev.com process required to do it this way).
http://theroot.ninja/download.html

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