[Q] Does it matter which OS version I get at initial purchase? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I'm looking to buy an LTE model, and you can supposedly still get them new from Amazon for a ridiculous $429. Or you can get them second-hand for half of that.
So my question is this:
Is there any advantage to buying new for the sake of getting the older 4.2 OS out of the box? Or can I live with one that has been OTA upgraded to 5.0+?
I'm looking to permanently install this in a vehicle dash, rooted, and probably with a custom ROM.

Well if your gunna install a custom ROM then just buy one you feel comfortable with, you can install any ROM from any android version on the nexus 7, as long as the ROM is built for it.
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[Q] Should I buy a Galaxy Nexus?

I'm on Verzion, currently using a Droid X (rooted, stock firmware). My contract is up in April, and I'm looking at two or three other phones, but the GNex is currently the frontrunner. I plan on keeping the phone for two years minimum; I tend to be a bit rough with my phones, so build quality is something I'm thinking about; I plan on rooting.
So, my questions:
What is the rooting situation with the Verizon GNex? I'm a Linux user, so a Linux rooting tool would be great, but I have access to Windows machines if I need them.
How's the stock firmware? I believe that the Verizon GNex models all come with mysid and are AOSP builds managed by Google, is that correct?
Yes you should buy this magnificent phone. It really is the best thing I have ever owned (going from Desire, SGS2 then GN). Android 4.0 is fantastically clean and really nice!
1. Super easy, since google basically want you to root it (developer phone and all). Check out the guides!
2. OTA is so good I have not felt the need to use any new launcher or rom to replace it. Smooth and everything.
Rooting is crazy easy and the phone is aosp as stock being its a pure Google android phone. Also the quality isn't terrible I have my in a case and it feels very sturdy.
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Just picked up one of these Gnexus got some questions...

ok so i got one of these Galaxy Nexus its the Verzion 16 GB.. i got it for just fooling around with rooting / roming and stuff... i wanted to use it most for just a control device for my google tv and roku box and Plex/xbmc media center stuff.. so im wondering about bad is the battery life i have heard some really awful reports... i will not be using any thing but wifi.. no 3g 4g.. no phone activation... and im wondering about which route to take as far as unlocking and rooting the device... i have done a TF101.. 2 version of the BN hd tablets.. a few different droids so im not that green on the stuff... but this is my first Samsung device... so. im wondering how to proceeded.. is it best to stay with Jellybean or has Kitkat gone far enough along for stability.... or just stay with ICS? ha too many questions.... just new to the whole Gnex scen...... i just hope this version of is open and unlockable...
guess im pretty freaking green on this stuff...
well any help would be much appreciated
scuzzo said:
ok so i got one of these Galaxy Nexus its the Verzion 16 GB.. i got it for just fooling around with rooting / roming and stuff... i wanted to use it most for just a control device for my google tv and roku box and Plex/xbmc media center stuff.. so im wondering about bad is the battery life i have heard some really awful reports... i will not be using any thing but wifi.. no 3g 4g.. no phone activation... and im wondering about which route to take as far as unlocking and rooting the device... i have done a TF101.. 2 version of the BN hd tablets.. a few different droids so im not that green on the stuff... but this is my first Samsung device... so. im wondering how to proceeded.. is it best to stay with Jellybean or has Kitkat gone far enough along for stability.... or just stay with ICS? ha too many questions.... just new to the whole Gnex scen...... i just hope this version of is open and unlockable...
guess im pretty freaking green on this stuff...
well any help would be much appreciated
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I think Verizon only has a 32 GB Galaxy Nexus. All Verizon Galaxy Nexus are known as "toro".
GSM Galaxy Nexus have 16 GB of space. GSM Galaxy Nexus are known as "tuna".
ICS is pretty dated. 4.1 or 4.3 would be your best bet for stability. KitKat is still pretty new in the scene but people have said that its quite stable by now.
To root, you first need to:
1. Install Fastboot/ADB drivers for your phone. http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/UniversalAdbDriverSetup6.msi
2. Set up Fastboot/ADB
3. Unlock your bootloader.
4. Flash a custom recovery (CWM/TWRP)
5. Flash SuperSU install zip to root.
To install a ROM, you need to do the above steps but flash your ROM+GApps instead of SuperSU.
im gsm gnex user.. running kitkat rom.. the battery n stability right now was superb..
just need to know how to control apps n ram. u'll got a good performances.
screen shot attached.
sorry for my bad english
galaxy nexus i9250
akash3656 said:
I think Verizon only has a 32 GB Galaxy Nexus. All Verizon Galaxy Nexus are known as "toro".
GSM Galaxy Nexus have 16 GB of space. GSM Galaxy Nexus are known as "tuna".
ICS is pretty dated. 4.1 or 4.3 would be your best bet for stability. KitKat is still pretty new in the scene but people have said that its quite stable by now.
To root, you first need to:
1. Install Fastboot/ADB drivers for your phone. http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/UniversalAdbDriverSetup6.msi
2. Set up Fastboot/ADB
3. Unlock your bootloader.
4. Flash a custom recovery (CWM/TWRP)
5. Flash SuperSU install zip to root.
To install a ROM, you need to do the above steps but flash your ROM+GApps instead of SuperSU.
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cool thanks for the information,
i have checked and Verizion sell a 16 gb model.. it appears that they even kept the 1800 mha battery... im not sure what else changed with the 16 gb
Product Identifiers
Brand Samsung
MPN SCHI515ZSV
Carrier Verizon
Family Line Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Model SCH-I515
UPC 635753498219
Type Smartphone
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I515MSAVZW
toro or tuna? or... dunno?
im just in hopes that it is not some bastard version that never got any mod and development push from xda and stuff.. like i said totally green on these... mostly been rooting moto droid stuff.. and thats so locked down its not even fair... awell... part of the fun is figuring all this stuff out.... cant be as bad as the droidx2 was...
I am running cMetal 4.4 ROM and it is blazing fast and very stable for me. I have had 0 issues with it so far. My battery life also is much better than all other 4.3 roms I ran. Here's the link to cMetal if you decide to give it a try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532320
I've been using this phone for over 2 years now and I am still completely satisfied. We have a great development community and I think you made a great choice for rooting/dev experimentation. As far as battery life goes, it will be pretty good since you are using wifi only. Switching from 3g/4g is what really destroys my battery life.
scuzzo said:
cool thanks for the information,
i have checked and Verizion sell a 16 gb model.. it appears that they even kept the 1800 mha battery... im not sure what else changed with the 16 gb
Product Identifiers
Brand Samsung
MPN SCHI515ZSV
Carrier Verizon
Family Line Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Model SCH-I515
UPC 635753498219
Type Smartphone
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I515MSAVZW
toro or tuna? or... dunno?
im just in hopes that it is not some bastard version that never got any mod and development push from xda and stuff.. like i said totally green on these... mostly been rooting moto droid stuff.. and thats so locked down its not even fair... awell... part of the fun is figuring all this stuff out.... cant be as bad as the droidx2 was...
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I wouldn't trust a manufacturer's site for specs especially for the Galaxy Nexus. We had totally contradictory specs for storage size right up till the official launch lol.
Anyway, no harm powering down your phone, Vol Up+Vol Down+Power (Fastboot) and take a picture of your phone at the Fastboot screen.

some questions about ascend p6

hey guys,
i've been doing some reading on xda for the past few days to determine wich phone i should buy.
my choices are lg nexus 4 and offcourse the huawei ascend p6.
my first thought is to go for the nexus but as it's quite old it's hard to get (with carrier/provider subscription). it's possible but i have to choose a provider with wich i have serious doubts.
in that matter the huawei has better options for me.
but i'm not 100% convinced to buy this phone but i'm sure it has got great potential. i also really like to use custom roms and kernels.
the bootloader..
i've read that it's unlocked but has got some kind of encryption so in some way's you can say it's still locked.
though i've seen that recently there is a custom kernel available.. so does that mean that flashing custom kernels is possible?
(if i would buy a huawei it would be a european version btw)
i'm starting to understand you need to be on a CN version/unlocked firmware in order to flash custom kernels. what does that mean? does it mean you need to be on the chinese versions?
and what about going from european firmware to chinese? is this possible without problems/bricks?
one other great thing about this phone that it's getting that 4.4 update. is there any news that this new firmware will be open source?
i've also read that there is going to be a google edition of the p6 wich means a clean android version, wich means open source?? please correct me if i'm wrong!
my first impression reading this section is great, i see some dev's that really are putting a lot of time and effort in developing this phone.
i have also seen that the p6 had some bugs when it's launched but many of them are repaired by stock firmware updates wich is a good thing.
hopefully you can help me a little bit so i can make my choice..
many thanks in advance!
Pollie81 said:
hey guys,
i've been doing some reading on xda for the past few days to determine wich phone i should buy.
my choices are lg nexus 4 and offcourse the huawei ascend p6.
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Hi,
I cannot answer your questions, I just have laid my hands on a P6. I'm coming from an SGS2 (I still use that one)
My initial impressions of the P6 are mixed.
I like the thinness. I love the material (there are only a few metallic Android phones out there). I love the speed.
However, I do not like Huawei's ROM. The user interface is more like iOS, so I installed NovaLauncher, it makes life better But it looks to me that some important Android features are absent. For example, the native Android SIP client seems to be inaccessible (or is it just me not finding it?) HW wise, having the USB/charger socket at the top of the device rather than the bottom is really clumsy. The device can get uncomfortably hot during usage.
I am tempted to try a different ROM until Huawei comes out with a KitKat update,
never mind..
my first thought went to the Nexus 4 and today I've discovered it had the best deal for me.
i had to pay extra for the ascend p6 were the Nexus 4 was free in combination with my carrier subscription.
so the choice was pretty easy.. the Nexus 4 it is..
I have it running on HYDROM, and batt. life increased a lot. Really love my P6 (coming from iPhone).

Back Android,changes?

So I used to have a Samsung exhibit 2 4g until it lagged and froze with even minor task.
Went over to windows phone 8 and enjoyed it.(9 months)Lumia 521.
Only problem,the recent updates have made my phone unusable sometimes.
Now after the utter disappointment last time on android,I bought a nexus for $100.
Not too much invested.
Will all galaxy nexus roms work on the unlocked i9250?
Same specs as Verizon,but radios are different.
Also do launchers use up ram?
Lets say I install a separate launcher,are both stock and the other launcher in memory?
Or only the one in use.
It seems this phone will work out better.
jms_209 said:
So I used to have a Samsung exhibit 2 4g until it lagged and froze with even minor task.
Went over to windows phone 8 and enjoyed it.(9 months)Lumia 521.
Only problem,the recent updates have made my phone unusable sometimes.
Now after the utter disappointment last time on android,I bought a nexus for $100.
Not too much invested.
Will all galaxy nexus roms work on the unlocked i9250?
Same specs as Verizon,but radios are different.
Also do launchers use up ram?
Lets say I install a separate launcher,are both stock and the other launcher in memory?
Or only the one in use.
It seems this phone will work out better.
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Lag isn't going to be a big issue for you on a Galaxy Nexus. If you have the unlocked i9250, you cannot install Verizon and Sprint ROMs, unless you use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/flashable-zip-switch-roms-tuna-devices-t2362644
However, I'd stick with Unlocking, rooting, and installing an AOSP 4.4.2 stock ROM. Kitkat runs great on this phone.
Both launchers will NOT be in memory after you swipe the old one away from recents when you install and use your new launcher. I recommend using the Google Now Launcher.
Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus! It was definitely my favorite phone of the past, it's still good.
Beauenheim said:
Lag isn't going to be a big issue for you on a Galaxy Nexus. If you have the unlocked i9250, you cannot install Verizon and Sprint ROMs, unless you use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/flashable-zip-switch-roms-tuna-devices-t2362644
However, I'd stick with Unlocking, rooting, and installing an AOSP 4.4.2 stock ROM. Kitkat runs great on this phone.
Both launchers will NOT be in memory after you swipe the old one away from recents when you install and use your new launcher. I recommend using the Google Now Launcher.
Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus! It was definitely my favorite phone of the past, it's still good.
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I've unlocked my friends Verizon nexus and flashed recovery and rom. Just not too sure what to flash when I get mine.
Can you link me to a aosp 4.4.2 or miui v5 rom?
Don't want to brick my phone with the wrong zip.
jms_209 said:
I've unlocked my friends Verizon nexus and flashed recovery and rom. Just not too sure what to flash when I get mine.
Can you link me to a aosp 4.4.2 or miui v5 rom?
Don't want to brick my phone with the wrong zip.
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Stick with whatever's in your variant's forum. If you've done it before, then you shouldn't have a problem finding a right zip. No ROM is the best. I'd personally flash a 4.4.2 AOSP ROM.

How much life is left on this device?

I am considering a new tablet and Amazon has a refurbished 8.4 for less than $200. It is the right size tab for my needs and the specs are better than my Asus TF700.
Does this device have any limits on what bootloaders can be unlocked? I don't want to be stuck with a safestrap deviceā€¦ I want a custom recovery that allows TWRP and custom ROMs.
Not seeing any 5.x ROMs for this device.
Should I consider this device, or is it nearing its "end of life" for support and development?
TWRP is easy with Odin. I've successfully installed CM11, SlimKat, and a couple of ROM posted on XDA. Lollypop - no idea.
I bought 8.4 Wifi from BestBuy and bootloader is easily unlocked.
I would expect Samsung to release one last update of Lollipop seeing as how it's only 1 year old, but you never know.
There is CM12 Lollipop Nightly in Original Development section. It's really stable for a nightly. It works flawlessly for me.
Does OTG work on this device on custom ROMs like the CM12 nightly?
duckredbeard said:
Does OTG work on this device on custom ROMs like the CM12 nightly?
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Yes OTG works on cm12
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IMO this is a dead device. only get if you plan to switch it to a custom rom like CM11 or CM12
check sammobile firmware list... there hasn't been anything new for this device since November (5 months) and even THAT was 4.4.2, which is an already out-of-date version of android
if you look in this forum history, there are various gullible people who were saying we would have already had a major update (or 2) by now... i say "ha-ha!" to them, they were so wrong
Another vote for CM12. It runs faster than TouchWiz, and looks nicer as well. Who need stock software when you have CM?
All Android tablets are unfortunately considered "disposable" by the manufacturers. They crank out a new version every year (or less), sell a few tablets, then rinse and repeat. Even if you moved onto something else, it would also be obsolete in less than a year.
The hardware works fine, and I plan to use it for some time yet. I don't expect any dazzling new tablets in the near future. Just incremental updates on what we already have. Cranking out "more of the same" is pretty much the name of the game in tablets for now.
Already got the tab. Second time it booted up I had it rooted. Third time booted had twrp installed. Fourth time booted had cm12.
Still getting settled in and it is soo much faster than my tf700.
Cyanogenmod has team up with qualcomm. They are supporting snapdragon 400,600,800 with future cyanogen mod and their own store. So i see some hope here . Correct me if i m wrong

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