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Alternate Title: "Why Verizon and Samsung can Suck It"
DISCLAIMER: This post is purely my opinion and based on absolutely nothing except my experience with both batteries, and knowing Google and Verizon
The extended batter on the Nexus is perfect.......Too Perfect.
My nexus feels like an entirely different phone after.
Before, there was always an impending feeling that I that the phone was about the slip out of my hand. I could drop it at any moment. (with no case).
I slipped in the new battery in the VZW store parking lot and I couldn't believe what I was feeling. I'm still getting a case, but with this batter I'm confident I could hold on to it easily without one if I wanted to.
The back, that's maybe 1mm larger, completes the teardrop design of the phone PERFECTLY.
As several other have said, It just feels right.
My Theory: This is the phone that Google designed.
Do you think the engineers at Google looked at this amazing phone they designed and said "ok for the battery cover, lets go the opposite direction of the entire design and make the back concave IN THE OTHER DIRECTION"
No.
Do think they looked at this monsterous 4.5 inch samsung screen, and Verizons LTE network and said "Yea, lets put an 1850 mAh battery in this thing, even though we know the Bionic offers a whopping 2760 mAh extended battery and we could easily fit a 2100"
No.
What about common sense? What do you expect when you get an "exteneded battery?"
You expect it to be bigger. You expect it to stick out from the back. You expect it to mess up the lines and flow of the device because your trade off is a large capacity battery.
You don't expect the design to be lacking in the regular battery, literally noticeably wrong, and have the extended battery complete the real design.
Don't you think Google knows this?
With the extended battery this phone is too perfect, too symmetrical, the lines are too good, and common sense (Which you better believe Google wants in their flagship product) says they designed this phone for this battery.
So, Verizon or Samsung (or probably both, because they both get paid) made the deal with Google contingent on putting a smaller battery in the phone and thus creating the world's easiest upsell in the "extended" battery.
For people that already have the extended battery, I'm betting you agree.
If you don't have it yet, don't be quick to call BS on me here until you hold it in your hand. It's impossible to describe well enough the differences and perfection achieved until feel it and see it yourself.
I don't know about all that but this phone does feel awesome with the extended battery. I don't know why but before it felt very slippery and unstable.
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SenorFusion said:
Alternate Title: "Why Verizon and Samsung can Suck It"
The extended batter on the Nexus is perfect.......Too Perfect.
My nexus feels like an entirely different phone after.
Before, there was always an impending feeling that I that the phone was about the slip out of my hand. I could drop it at any moment. (with no case).
I slipped in the new battery in the VZW store parking lot and I couldn't believe what I was feeling. I'm still getting a case, but with this batter I'm confident I could hold on to it easily without one if I wanted to.
The back, that's maybe 1mm larger, completes the teardrop design of the phone PERFECTLY.
As several other have said, It just feels right.
My Theory: This is the phone that Google designed.
Do you think the engineers at Google looked at this amazing phone they designed and said "ok for the battery cover, lets go the opposite direction of the entire design and make the back concave IN THE OTHER DIRECTION"
No.
Do think they looked at this monsterous 4.5 inch samsung screen, and Verizons LTE network and said "Yea, lets put an 1850 mAh battery in this thing, even though we know the Bionic offers a whopping 2760 mAh extended battery and we could easily fit a 2100"
No.
What about common sense? What do you expect when you get an "exteneded battery?"
You expect it to be bigger. You expect it to stick out from the back. You expect it to mess up the lines and flow of the device because your trade off is a large capacity battery.
You don't expect the design to be lacking in the regular battery, literally noticeably wrong, and have the extended battery complete the real design.
Don't you think Google knows this?
With the extended battery this phone is too perfect, too symmetrical, the lines are too good, and common sense (Which you better believe Google wants in their flagship product) says they designed this phone for this battery.
So, Verizon or Samsung (or probably both, because they both get paid) made the deal with Google contingent on putting a smaller battery in the phone and thus creating the world's easiest upsell in the "extended" battery.
For people that already have the extended battery, I'm betting you agree.
If you don't have it yet, don't be quick to call BS on me here until you hold it in your hand. It's impossible to describe well enough the differences and perfection achieved until feel it and see it yourself.
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This. The phone feels so much better in your hand with the extended battery cover, it needs to be experienced first-hand (no pun intended).
Although I have no idea whether google designed it that way or not.
I was actually thinking the same thing but considering the extended battery was only $25 I really don't mind paying for it.
I really dig the added weight. It feels more...solid?
Now I really can't wait to get this damn thing. Tomorrow hopefully. They said 2-day shipping when I ordered on Friday, today would make the 3rd day, but it didn't come. Bastards.
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Now I really can't wait to get this damn thing. Tomorrow hopefully. They said 2-day shipping when I ordered on Friday, today would make the 3rd day, but it didn't come. Bastards.
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same thing happened to me. i complained to fedex, gonna see what they say lol
Depending when you ordered Friday its probably shipped Monday. I ordered my phone and extended battery Friday night and while I got a shipped email sunday (I think) Fedex didnt actually receive the item from Verizon until Monday at 6 AM.
I can't decide about how I feel about the extended battery. Luckily, our phones here came with both 1750 and 2000 mAh and covers in the box so I can switch back and forth. The 1750 battery/cover has the back concave with the little hump on the bottom. I think that keeps the design a bit consistent with their other Galaxy's (S II, S II LTE). I agree with you that the extended battery cover completes the tear drop PERFECTLY which surprised me. On the other hand, I think the added weight just makes me feel like I'm going to drop it. It's defiantly noticeable and I prefer the weight of the 1750 battery.
I'm not sure if I want something more comfortable and light or something better looking with more power.
My ext. battery showed up yesterday. With as much as I'm playing/setting up the phone, I needed more juice. I like having the added power and don't mind the weight/size, plus it still fits in my Incipio case (slight bulge but nothing I'll worry about). Once my honeymoon phase is over with the GN, I can flip-flop between batteries should I need to. Plus it was $25, can't pass that up.
Also, just for grins I thought I would mention the verizon phone shell is thicker not just the rear cover compared to the GSM..... So seeing as they already re-worked it for the bigger standard battery it would make sense that the extended battery works well with it. Even tho I'm really not a fan of most Verizon phones due the the need for huge bricks for batteries that are notoriously packed on the back.....
Does anyone else have an issue where the ext cover is slightly popped up around the camera? You can basically push the cover in/out right below the camera.
I think I read someone else posting about the cover not seating, but I think it may have been the stock cover.
Holy crap! You were kidding about this thing. This phone should've just shipped like this in the first place.
kenyu73 said:
Does anyone else have an issue where the ext cover is slightly popped up around the camera? You can basically push the cover in/out right below the camera.
I think I read someone else posting about the cover not seating, but I think it may have been the stock cover.
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I have this issue on both the stock and extended battery, don't know why or if i should be worried about it though.
dipson626 said:
I can't decide about how I feel about the extended battery. Luckily, our phones here came with both 1750 and 2000 mAh and covers in the box so I can switch back and forth. The 1750 battery/cover has the back concave with the little hump on the bottom. I think that keeps the design a bit consistent with their other Galaxy's (S II, S II LTE). I agree with you that the extended battery cover completes the tear drop PERFECTLY which surprised me. On the other hand, I think the added weight just makes me feel like I'm going to drop it. It's defiantly noticeable and I prefer the weight of the 1750 battery.
I'm not sure if I want something more comfortable and light or something better looking with more power.
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I think you should send your fellow korean in the states your 2000 mah battery and cover
I want to get the extended battery, But I want to know that it will work with the real car dock (the one that uses the pin connectors) whenever that thing is finally in stock. I am really upset that verizon is selling that cheap car dock knock off right now and isnt offering any accessories that take advantage of the pin connectors right now. (probably because they dont work with cases and VZ would rather sell more cases right now.)
SenorFusion said:
[Long rant about a conspiracy that Verizon/Samsung are trying to force everyone into buying an extended battery]
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If Verizon/Samsung put as much thought into this as you believe they did then you'd think they would have also realized that it's going to be much harder to convince someone to buy an extended battery because it feels better than because they need the extra juice? I would probably side with you if the stock battery was 1600mA or something but it's a sufficient 1850mA and the extended battery is barely larger.
I do agree with you to an extent but to say that they purposely flawed the design is a pretty big statement to be making...especially when this phone sits on the shelf right next to the Droid X and Razr which have FAR worse backs than this phone. Verizon didn't coax Motorola into poorly designing their phones so that the Nexus's faults would fly under our radar did they?
Perhaps, I'll have an incredible moment of epiphany when I get mine in the mail today but for now I remain skeptical.
S4Rs said:
I want to get the extended battery, But I want to know that it will work with the real car dock (the one that uses the pin connectors) whenever that thing is finally in stock....
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It's only 1mm thicker...while that COULD be enough to make it fit improperly I doubt it.
i agree entirely with the OP. idk if samsung and/or verizon did it, or if google did it, but i do think that it was a bit of a cop out to put the crap factory battery in it. i think im going to pick up an extended today
SenorFusion said:
Alternate Title: "Why Verizon and Samsung can Suck It"
DISCLAIMER: This post is purely my opinion and based on absolutely nothing except my experience with both batteries, and knowing Google and Verizon
The extended batter on the Nexus is perfect.......Too Perfect.
My nexus feels like an entirely different phone after.
Before, there was always an impending feeling that I that the phone was about the slip out of my hand. I could drop it at any moment. (with no case).
I slipped in the new battery in the VZW store parking lot and I couldn't believe what I was feeling. I'm still getting a case, but with this batter I'm confident I could hold on to it easily without one if I wanted to.
The back, that's maybe 1mm larger, completes the teardrop design of the phone PERFECTLY.
As several other have said, It just feels right.
My Theory: This is the phone that Google designed.
Do you think the engineers at Google looked at this amazing phone they designed and said "ok for the battery cover, lets go the opposite direction of the entire design and make the back concave IN THE OTHER DIRECTION"
No.
Do think they looked at this monsterous 4.5 inch samsung screen, and Verizons LTE network and said "Yea, lets put an 1850 mAh battery in this thing, even though we know the Bionic offers a whopping 2760 mAh extended battery and we could easily fit a 2100"
No.
What about common sense? What do you expect when you get an "exteneded battery?"
You expect it to be bigger. You expect it to stick out from the back. You expect it to mess up the lines and flow of the device because your trade off is a large capacity battery.
You don't expect the design to be lacking in the regular battery, literally noticeably wrong, and have the extended battery complete the real design.
Don't you think Google knows this?
With the extended battery this phone is too perfect, too symmetrical, the lines are too good, and common sense (Which you better believe Google wants in their flagship product) says they designed this phone for this battery.
So, Verizon or Samsung (or probably both, because they both get paid) made the deal with Google contingent on putting a smaller battery in the phone and thus creating the world's easiest upsell in the "extended" battery.
For people that already have the extended battery, I'm betting you agree.
If you don't have it yet, don't be quick to call BS on me here until you hold it in your hand. It's impossible to describe well enough the differences and perfection achieved until feel it and see it yourself.
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FWIW the GSM version also has a smaller battery, smaller than the VzW version I believe, so you can't really pin this all on Verizon. But I do agree the extended battery makes for a better overall experience. I'm pretty much always around a charger so it's a non-issue for me, but I still go with the extended battery
Where are the pictures of this holy extended battery?
Update: nevermind, I don't have Verizon. Lucky you guys.
As the guys from fixit showed in their teardown, it's quite easy to remove the back cover and detatch the battery
So the ideas that comes to mind is: Will there ever be an extra size replacement battery coming with a custom back cover?
I mean the same accessory you can find for mobiles with a replacable battery (such as Galaxy S4)
For example: Does anybody knows wether the BL-T7 battery from the Lg G2 can fit?
** I don't mean a cover sporting a battery juicer.
Don't think so. If they intended to allow users to replace the battery they would've made the back cover removable
This is about what will come to market to enhance the Nexus5
Even if the battery is not made to be replaced every day, who cares?
Do you place and remove the display protecting film every day?...NO, you just place it once and stop caring
It's quite obvious that the poor battery is just a marketing strategy not to overcome the almost as twice expensive Lg G2.
But it's a replaceable part, I mean it's not the soldered ram
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016#s53713
ice.man said:
This is not what Google-LG cared about
It's obvious to me that the poor battery is just a marketing strategy not to overcome the almost as twice expensive as Lg G2
But it's a replaceable part, I mean it's not the soldered ram
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016#s53713
Even if the battery is not made to be replaced every day, who cares?
Do you place and remove the display protecting film every day?...NO, you just place it once and stop caring
This is about what will come to market to enhance the Nexus5
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Personally I have zero battery issues, the thing lasts all day for me and then some with medium usage. That said, it's clear that battery matters a lot to people.
I don't think it was some grand scheme by Google or LG though. They built a phone and kept it under a pretty strict budget. Could they have added a bigger battery? Sure, but there are quite a few people out there that don't need it, and those that do, probably are using things like Notes and Maxx's and such or carrying portable chargers already. You can't satisfy everyone with a product like this and although it's clear that Google is trying to make the Nexus name more relevant, it's part of a market where different people want different things for their phones.
The back isn't meant to be removed by us though, the fact that it is relatively easy to do just makes for quicker, less costly repair times which is all about the bottom line. Using a removable battery also helps keep costs down and keeping customers from messing with it helps as well. Maybe somewhere down the line someone will make a bigger battery for it, but from what most of the sites are saying and the teardown indicates, you shouldn't be holding your breath for it. The Nexus 5 is a great phone for some people and for others it's just not going to be what they really need in which there are many, many alternatives.
Unlikely. A replacement cover would need
-vibration motor
-Wifi, NFC, GPS antennas
-Wireless charging coil
-4 magnets for docking
Just get an external battery.
I wonder if the back is right up against the battery. As in if it is possible to add a slightly thicker battery for longer run time.
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As the guys from fixit showed in their teardown, it's quite easy to remove the back cover and detatch the battery
So the ideas that comes to mind is: Will there ever be an extra size replacement battery coming with a custom back cover?
I mean the same accessory you can find for mobiles with a replacable battery (such as Galaxy S4)
For example: Does anybody knows wether the BL-T7 battery from the Lg G2 can fit?
** I don't mean a cover sporting a battery juicer.
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G2 battery does not fit
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Hopefully, some enterprising Chinese companies would come up with batteries that'll fit in the phone but with slightly larger capacity.
no thanks...I'm stuck with cinese battery declaring a huge capacity and then dropping all of a sudden from half battery to ZERO battery......
I would totally buy a bigger battery and perform the swap for 25% more life or better
Have you guys seen this?
http://www.smavtronics.com/3000mah-...imus-g2.html?gclid=CO2I_4_O5LoCFQ3hQgodnzYA-Q
anuraj1 said:
Have you guys seen this?
http://www.smavtronics.com/3000mah-...imus-g2.html?gclid=CO2I_4_O5LoCFQ3hQgodnzYA-Q
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comapring the ifixit pictures with that one, the battery connector is on the wrong side.
The cover would be pretty spendy I bet. The vibrate motor is attached the back cover along with the wireless charging. Is the NFC also part of the cover? Anyway, if it can be done it probably will but I'd be concerned over the quality of the battery if the whole package doesn't cost quite a bit.
Here is the idea:
preserve the original cover, just add a "bridge" between the main body of the phone and the cover, like an inner case-juicer
I think if the Nexus5 could reach the shipping goals of S3/4 or iPhones......for sure someone would start manufacturing this kind of product
but actually the engineering is to expensive compared the market size
Here is the idea:
preserve the original cover, just add a "bridge" between the main body of the phone and the cover, like an inner case-juicer
I think if the Nexus5 could reach the shipping goals of S3/4 or iPhones......for sure someone would start manufacturing this kind of product
but actually the engineering is to expensive compared the market size
Read somewhere that the name of the item is misleading. It's not 3000mah.
Where did you read jt
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anuraj1 said:
Have you guys seen this?
http://www.smavtronics.com/3000mah-...imus-g2.html?gclid=CO2I_4_O5LoCFQ3hQgodnzYA-Q
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Note: This battery is not compatible with LG Nexus 5 16GB. Click here for LG Nexus 5 16GB Battery.
Click where?
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detdett said:
Click where?
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That's a direct quote from the website
I very much want to increase the battery of my Z3 Compact as much as possible, I don't care if I double its size in the process
Although the battery time is tolerable, I think a nice 4000mAh battery or two would work great with the energy saving algorithms of the Z3.
Does anyone know if there is any cases available that let me do that yet? If not , would it be possible to adapt another readily available case for my personal use?
I've not seen any power cases for the Z3c and I doubt any will be released considering the niche status of the phone. Best option is probably a portable USB power pack.
Same here. I always have some juice in my backpack in form of a usb power pack. Charges pretty quick and also usable as a ac charger. For outdoors there are solarchargers. Much more comfortable as a powercase.
Mugen 3000mAh battery/case
tonkemaskin said:
Mugen 3000mAh battery/case
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Smart... they made it compatible with three different models (presumably using the same mag port)
tonkemaskin said:
Mugen 3000mAh battery/case[/URL]
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Excellent' a 4000mAh would be nice, but that one will do
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Is there a picture of the Mugen? It's rather strange to sell a product without a picture of it.
KevinN206 said:
Is there a picture of the Mugen? It's rather strange to sell a product without a picture of it.
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I also think it is a little strange that there is no pictures of it. There is pictures of the Z3 power case though. If that is in any way an indication of how the Z3C case will look I think is a bad decision not to make the case cover more of the phone for protection purposes. The phone will end up being bulky anyway with the battery case on, so why not extend the battery case so it offers proper protection against the phone being dropped?
pipspeak said:
I've not seen any power cases for the Z3c and I doubt any will be released considering the niche status of the phone. Best option is probably a portable USB power pack.
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Me neither, i have not seen any for the z3c, however there is one made by Brando for the z1c, it's called power jacket, here is the link:
http://shop.brando.com/power-jacket-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact-z1f-3200mah_p10993c1599d003.html
Don't know if it will fit the z3c, i will do some research to know if it fits or not, my main concern is the cut for the camera and flash, because both share almost identical dimensions
galaga742 said:
Me neither, i have not seen any for the z3c, however there is one made by Brando for the z1c, it's called power jacket, here is the link:
Don't know if it will fit the z3c, i will do some research to know if it fits or not, my main concern is the cut for the camera and flash, because both share almost identical dimensions
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It looks like the Mugen one does not have any addon/swappable parts to fit Z1C/Z3C. To me, this would suggest that the above brando case would fit Z3C too. And that would suggest that the cheap chinese Z1C battery cases would also fit.
Have you done any research?
(sorry could not quote your link because of the new user restriction)
Mugen Z3 compact picture
Twice the thickness for twice the battery life. Definitely mixed feelings with this one.
avinandaspid said:
Twice the thickness for twice the battery life. Definitely mixed feelings with this one.
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you happen to have any more pictures? are you still using that a month later now? any additional thoughts?
avinandaspid said:
Twice the thickness for twice the battery life. Definitely mixed feelings with this one.
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I'm currently shopping for a new smartphone, and the availability of a battery case is a deciding factor for me. Your post is the only thing I could find on the internet about the Mugen Z3 compact battery case, so I was wondering if I could ask a few things to help me decide.
Does the case fit on snugly? Does it clasp on properly or does it fall off? It charges using the magnetic terminals on the middle of the phone's side, and not the micro USB port, correct? Presumably the flaps that cover the microusb don't get in the way of the case?
Has the actual performance of the backup battery been up to scratch?
Thanks for your feedback about the thickness but I don't really mind about that as I'd be using the battery case for travelling and situations like that.
Some extra photos from different angles would be very much appreciated. Feel free to email me at mark a h 9999 at gmail if that's easier for you than replying here. Thanks for any help you can provide.
Here is a review by one of the users, i hope it will be helpful for You:
Better than the one I had for my z2. Very precise fit with no movement in the battery case. I view this as a clip on extra battery rather than a protective case.
When I need charging I don't want to be connected to a battery pack with a cord...been there, press and hold on switch means no accidental turning off.
I use my z3 for shallow underwater photos and couldn't have a phone with removable battery and leaking battery doors. Double cost of other brand but you get what you pay for!
You can read more reviews and see pics here: http://mugen.co/mugen-power-3700mah-battery-case-for-sony-xperia-z3.html
dmitrymugen said:
Here is a review by one of the users, i hope it will be helpful for You:
Better than the one I had for my z2. Very precise fit with no movement in the battery case. I view this as a clip on extra battery rather than a protective case.
When I need charging I don't want to be connected to a battery pack with a cord...been there, press and hold on switch means no accidental turning off.
I use my z3 for shallow underwater photos and couldn't have a phone with removable battery and leaking battery doors. Double cost of other brand but you get what you pay for!
You can read more reviews and see pics here:
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Mate, we're discussing cases for the Z3 compact not the regular Z3.
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you happen to have any more pictures? are you still using that a month later now? any additional thoughts?
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Sorry, I don't have the case anymore. I decided to get a Xiaomi power bank and sold the case for 2/3 the price since I wanted to use Devilcase. The Mugen was worth the money. All 3200mAh are there. The feel is pretty good as well with a rubbery matte finish and heavier overall weight that's definitely gonna prevent you from dropping the phone anytime soon.
Introduction
Generally, if you use a product and you like it, you don’t hesitate to go out and purchase another item from the same company. My Nexus 6P finally threw in the towel, leaving me to fend for myself out in the tech world. But... I was right in the middle of major phone upgrade season. The current flagships were on sale or being bundled with 256GB memory cards, *cough Samsung cough* but we were a few months from the next generations’ unveiling. Long story short, I decided on an HTC 10 to hold me over. It’s a great phone! Latest generation specs, an awesome camera, a nice speaker system, and a killer DAC to round things off. Unfortunately for my devices, I’m a power user- starting my day at 6:30 am and not getting back to the charger until 12 am (on an early night!) The HTC 10, like every other phone before it, simply didn’t have the stamina to last the 18ish hours in my typical day. So I went to Amazon, searched “ZeroLemon HTC 10”, and a smile broke across my face when I saw the first search result.
The Good Stuff
The good stuff? There’s a lot of it. It is a battery case through and through, which isn’t necessarily the most exciting thing on paper. But this case picks up where ZeroLemon’s Nexus 6P case left off. The build of the case itself is simplified, discarding the plastic ring that encased the device. Now it’s just three pieces: the silicon outside, the battery, and a “u” shaped double ended USB-C connector to transfer power into the case. This time around, a USB-A style connector is also hiding on the right side of the case, waiting to power up another device of your choosing. If you’re going to make a case with this big of a footprint already, little features like these are a huge value-add for the consumer, really justifying the size and price of the product. ZeroLemon’s team nailed the execution here! The silicon is much softer, and there are no signs of the injection molding process from their last case, lending to an overall more premium feel. Cutouts are all precise, however, the case does cover the HTC 10’s power and volume buttons, giving them a mushy feel, and making them trickier to identify by touch. The generous amount room around the headphone jack means you shouldn’t have a problem using any variation of auxiliary cables, and the four white LEDs that indicate the case's charge have good visibility. ZeroLemon also gives cutouts at the bottom of the case to allow sound from the bottom firing subwoofer to not be muffled and muddied. Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0 still works here thankfully, as juicing up 11,500 mAh is no small feat. In my testing as a heavy phone user, I was able to go about three days on a single charge. That’s a whole lot of navigation, music streaming, being paired to a smartwatch, messaging, and some light gaming. This case does its job; if it’s battery life you want, it’s battery you’re going to get. I’d feel confident throwing this case on, and going out to a concert, or using it to keep my phone charged over a camping weekend.
The Not So Good Stuff
Put on this case, and your sleek aluminum unibody becomes 6.5” long, 3/4th of an inch thick, and quite hefty. For some reason, ZeroLemon chose to separate the connection from the phone to the case, resulting in the need for the little adapter. This adapter, in turn, adds about a half an inch of length to the phone and creates the odd jut out towards the bottom. This creates uniquely dissatisfying design decision. The rubber lip that sits on the phone’s display is prone to slipping off, especially when trying to slip the phone in and out of a pocket or bag.
Otherwise, I’m failing to find faults with this case. There are no issues with NFC, and thankfully there are no adverse camera effects. A final criticism to ZeroLemon: please stop waiting until a device has reached its first birthday before you put out a case for it!
Conclusion
ZeroLemon’s HTC 10 battery case is pretty simple. The company stumbled with their Nexus 6P case, having to re-engineer it after a defective first batch and some media criticisms. ZeroLemon seems to have come back with another 8500 mAh battery case and nearly nails it this time. The addition of a traditional USB port to share power with another device is a welcomed feature, and the inclusion of a speaker grille at the bottom sends a clear message: ZeroLemon is coming for the top. They’ve found a formula and are sticking with it for the most part. They’re trying to cram in a big battery and extra value. They’re thoughtful with design, and their designs are evolving from rough, flimsy plastics puzzles to sleek silicone sleeves.
Gallery: http://imgur.com/a/ArnBd
I'd love to try and answer any questions!
I'm glad you're happy with it but looks matter to me and this looks... far from perfect. I'd probably have a power bank on standby for when I needed one rather than have this attached to my phone. I will say that the 8500 mAh battery is impressive, that's almost 3 full charges.
So I received my zerolemon battery case and tried it few days ago , I won't be talking much and I will give my opinion straight forward ,
It's heavy and solid , yes it's ugly and no way you can keep it in your pocket , but it will charge your phone around 3 times before it runs out of charge
It took me 2 hours to charge my phone as its not using QC 3.0 , it's comparable with QC 2.0 speed I guess , it's not slow but it's just not as fast as QC 3.0
The battery case it self took around 3 hours to charge fully. And I really like how they made use of the huge design and included and USB A type output to charge whatever you want to , (could be your HTC 10 if u don't wanna hold put it inside the case )
It's like a normal 8.5K battery and it's wrapped inside a very soft anti slip rubber case that that holds your phone and battery together , the case has some holes left and right , which is yes makes the speaker fire straight at your face and that's just amazing , the left holes are for that tiny hole drilled mics on your HTC 10 .
I would really recommend buying that case especially if u spend alot of your time away from a socket , it can charge your phone 3x or you can use it to charge your other gadgets ..
Not soo great design , but very useful and reliable battery case from zerolemon
Until more battery cases use wireless charging (I know the HTC 10 does not have wireless charging), I'll be sticking with battery banks. Seeing the added height from these cases really makes me miss removable batteries.
Looks like the LG V40 will launch late this year. Some info on it can be found here: https://wccftech.com/lg-v40-specifications-feature-launch-date-leak-specifications-features-price/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v40
Guess am sticking with the v20. I cant live without removable battery. But Im always looking to import.
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Guess am sticking with the v20. I can't live without removable battery. But Im always looking to import.
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You want removable battery because your battery dies during the day or what? And you want to swap it out?
People keep saying the can't live without removable battery but won't ever say why. My wife and I have not have removable battery on our Androids since 2014, so I don't quite understand.
First, with newer phones with high IP ratings -- like V30 IP68 -- you can't have removable battery without a lot of engineering headache. Also designing back exit port (with clear exit/entry/walls) for user battery removal makes the phone bigger than it needs to be.
Second, the V30 battery life is EXCELLENT. Some days I don't even charge my phone until I get home from work, as the V30 system has great built-in battery saving. I do keep Quick Charge chargers in car and at work, just in case. (Why? Because of my previous phone.)
Coming from a 2014 Moto XT1225 with a 3900 mAh battery, I was very worried about battery life on a phone with smaller battery (3300 mAh) and larger OLED display (6" vs 5.2"). I've been pleasantly surprised. Ironically, the older Moto XT1225 with bigger battery would not hold a charge all day long, thus my charger stash in car and at work... And I'm still going to keep those. There's no harm in charging while I'm using Google Waze navigation or topping off at work while I'm typing on my laptop.
Third, no current or future premium phones are going to have removable battery. See point #1. So, unless you are going to keep buying increasingly older refurbished V20 phones, at some point you're going to need to move forward.
I love IP68 protection, myself and the V30 has headset jack and Qi wireless charging -- which are my "lines in the sand" for what I need on a phone.
I wouldn't mind the LG V40 battery being a little larger than LG V30 3300 mA... but I am quite pleased with the battery performance of the LG V30.
ChazzMatt said:
You want removable battery because your battery dies during the day or what? And you want to swap it out?
People keep saying the can't live without removable battery but won't ever say why. My wife and I have not have removable battery on our Androids since 2014, so I don't quite understand.
First, with newer phones with high IP ratings -- like V30 IP68 -- you can't have removable battery without a lot of engineering headache. Also designing back exit port (with clear exit/entry/walls) for user battery removal makes the phone bigger than it needs to be.
Second, the V30 battery life is EXCELLENT. Some days I don't even charge my phone until I get home from work, as the V30 system has great built-in battery saving. I do keep Quick Charge chargers in car and at work, just in case. (Why? Because of my previous phone.)
Coming from a 2014 Moto XT1225 with a 3900 mAh battery, I was very worried about battery life on a phone with smaller battery (3300 mAh) and larger OLED display (6" vs 5.2"). I've been pleasantly surprised. Ironically, the older Moto XT1225 with bigger battery would not hold a charge all day long, thus my charger stash in car and at work... And I'm still going to keep those. There's no harm in charging while I'm using Google Waze navigation or topping off at work while I'm typing on my laptop.
Third, no current or future premium phones are going to have removable battery. See point #1. So, unless you are going to keep buying increasingly older refurbished V20 phones, at some point you're going to need to move forward.
I love IP68 protection, myself and the V30 has headset jack and Qi wireless charging -- which are my "lines in the sand" for what I need on a phone.
I wouldn't mind the LG V40 battery being a little larger than LG V30 3300 mA... but I am quite pleased with the battery performance of the LG V30.
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I want removable battery so I can replace it myself when it gives signs of wear. Without taking the whole damn phone apart!
I never take baths with my phone, all phones have enough water resistance so you can walk with them in the rain.
I really don't see the point in having water proofing on modern phones. Not when it comes at the cost of repairability or drop resistance.
FACT: old phones with removable battery were much more resistant on drops even if their parts (cover, battery) flew in all directions on big drops. I dropped old Nokia smartphones from 2nd story with no damage. How does water proofing help your flagship these days? They crack from laughable heights of under a meter.
I'm pretty sure drops on hard surfaces are much more common causes for damage than the lack of water proofing ever was in the past.
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I want removable battery so I can replace it myself when it gives signs of wear.
I never take baths with my phone, all phones have enough water resistance so you can walk with them in the rain.
I really don't see the point in having water proofing on modern phones.
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It's not taking baths, it's the drop off the edge of swimming pool. Drop in the toilet. (Ugh). Kid knocking over pitcher of tea at the dinner table, directly onto your phone.
V30 has mil spec ratings for dropping. See the forum description on the PC website version. Phone will keep functioning. I do keep case on for glass back as it's slippery.
LG V30 in United States has two year warranty.
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It's not taking baths, it's the drop off the edge of swimming pool. Drop in the toilet. (Ugh). Kid knocking over pitcher of tea at the dinner table, directly onto your phone.
V30 has mil spec ratings for dropping. See the forum description on the PC website version. Phone will keep functioning. I do keep case on for glass back as it's slippery.
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Maybe you shouldn't take the phone near the swimming pool. Or buy a phone specifically made for extreme environments if you're really not able to be careful about using electronics near water or keep it away from kids.
I don't care about the specs for dropping and whatever others have tested and written about the phone.
I learned on my own how those specs mean absolutely nothing. I dropped the V30 from 60 cm on wooden floor. The screen cracked, water resistance is gone. These new designs are terribly flawed. Superior materials (plastics) have been replaced by metal and glass. Neither provides any functional advantage. They just make the phone more heavy and slippery. Add to that the craze about screen to body ratio aiming for 100% that does nothing but make the phones even more fragile.
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Maybe you shouldn't take the phone near the swimming pool. Or buy a phone specifically made for extreme environments if you're really not able to be careful about using electronics near water or keep it away from kids.
I don't care about the specs for dropping and whatever others have tested and written about the phone.
I learned on my own how those specs mean absolutely nothing. I dropped the V30 from 60 cm on wooden floor. The screen cracked, water resistance is gone. These new designs are terribly flawed. Superior materials (plastics) have been replaced by metal and glass. Neither provides any functional advantage. They just make the phone more heavy and slippery. Add to that the craze about screen to body ratio aiming for 100% that does nothing but make the phones even more fragile.
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Well, you're never getting removable battery on a new premium phone, no matter how much you complain.
How often do you replace your batteries anyway?
Love the peace of mind of IP68, whether I ever need it or not. I've not had removable battery phone since 2014 and never missed that feature.
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@DLS123
i think that everything comes down to money... if you had the money you would change the friggin phones every month, every week... but it's like the fox and the grapes (if you understand what i mean)
as for battery change, how often do you change them? once a year? once two years? you might not even keep a phone that much and speaking about the phone beinng dismantled like that it means that you don't even do the operation of changing the battery
ip68 protection is very good. many people kill their phones because of liquid damage. there are many situations you cannot really control, like a sudden rain while you are outside, or dropping the phone into toilet, or having it on the table and someone spill some glass with water on it, etc... ip68 protection is more than welocome, it helps you sleep better at night. i once killed a nexus 5's display because i had it on the floor and at night i wanted to drink some water but because i was sleepy i dropped the bottle on the floor, didn't realize the phone was there until morning when was too late already. you putting the blame on us killing phones because of liquid damage makes you something that i cannot write here... many of us want less stress on our heads about phones. PLEASE do not judge us about something you cannot understand
i have had many phones with alot of physical impact damage, broken screens, broken cases, even bent cases. afterall it is a phone which is not made from vibranium, it's glass and plastic but if you refer at nokia 3310 with "old phones with removable battery" sentence then we might have a problem. everything with a full body display BREAKS, i can and i did, not on purpose anyway. nobody wants their phone to be a second baby and keep it all day long in silk... it's a phone, it's an OBJECT. everything in this world breaks with the right amount of force.
this is why i always use full body cases and tempered glass screen protectors, to minimize the repair costs. i am one of the few ppl out there who do not care about how it looks as long as i do not change display once a month.
damn, i abuse them like hell. my 5x even had three full charges a day, fully emptied, overheated till 80 degrees and it still works like a charm, with new battery and thermal pad to cool the processor little bit more. on the other side v30 gives me twice the battery life n5x had but sometimes i eat two v30's betteries in a day, removed thermal throttle completely so the gpu do not go dows when i play games.
changing the bettery is not that hard, you just need some good double adhesive tape and a small cross screwdriver and, of course, a new bettery which costs 10 euros.
don't be such an ignorant *something* and put your hands to work, evolve yourself or, if you do not want to, keep your outdated v20 and, please, do not criticize our awesome v30
I think water resistance is a great feature. Like insurance, I never intend to use it, but I still like having it "just in case".
I also think user replaceable battery is desirable, because the battery is the one thing that wears the most in a modern smartphone, and the one thing that makes it impractical to use a phone for several years. V30 has good battery life: I charge mine only every 3rd night (occasionally every 2nd night) and generally get 8 hrs SOT or more. But I use Battery Saver most of the time, and I do it mainly to reduce battery wear, because I need to keep this phone useful for at least 3 years. Had the battery been user replaceable, I wouldn't have that concern.
Alas, the two features are not compatible for the reasons described, so each has to prioritize and decide for him/herself.
I prefer anodized aluminium to glass, both for its looks, its feel, and its resistance to fingerprints. Hence V30 wasn't really my preferred phone at first. But it was my wife's, and with T-Mobile's BOGO AND LG's $400 rebate, it was a no-brainer. And I have since come to like it a lot, particularly after I trimmed the bloat, found the right case for it, and after I realized how great that Sabre DAC is. Paired with decent headphones, it really is a poor man's Hi-Fi system -- and a pretty darn good one too.
And I also really appreciate LG's 2-year warranty!
I insisted on 2 things with every phone I ever bought: removable battery and expandable storage. I never once replaced a battery (and every phone was a flagship on a full 2-year contract). I did, however, always rely on an extra microSD card for media and to make it easier and safer to flash new ROMs. But now that I have 128gb built-in, even that is hardly an issue. I never pay any attention to glass vs. aluminum vs. plastic body, because my phones all live in matte black TPU cases so they all look the same from my point of view.
I was as closed-minded as the next guy for nearly a decade, but darned if technology didn't just evolve beyond my needs.
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I was as closed-minded as the next guy for nearly a decade, but darned if technology didn't just evolve beyond my needs.
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LOL. Nice post!
Edit: I haven't yet filled up my 128GB either, even with most of my CDs as FLAC and a ton of hi-res music files to boot. And if I ever do, V30 still has an SD card slot. So it really has worked out to be the right phone for me, even though I didn't realize it at first.
I tried replacing phone batteries in the past. I learned that (1) low price aftermarket batteries have inferior performance and are a gamble with respect to safety, (2) OEM batteries are either way overpriced if fresh (only available while the phone is still in production), or "new" aka unused but stale*, or used and stale*.
Basically, it is a waste of time and money at best to replace a phone battery. (It is also a safety risk with most aftermarket Li-Ion batteries.) So, a phone is a 2 year device. After that, the battery is at end of life, the phone is slipping into obsolescence, time to get a new phone, forget about replacing batteries.
* Li-Ion batteries in this class have only a 2-3 year life whether they are used or not, as soon as they are manufactured the clock is ticking. Freshness matters. A 2-3 year old battery has only 60% or less original fresh capacity.
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I tried replacing phone batteries in the past. I learned that (1) low price aftermarket batteries have inferior performance and are a gamble with respect to safety, (2) OEM batteries are either way overpriced if fresh (only available while the phone is still in production), or "new" aka unused but stale*, or used and stale*.
Basically, it is a waste of time and money at best to replace a phone battery. (It is also a safety risk with most aftermarket Li-Ion batteries.) So, a phone is a 2 year device. After that, the battery is at end of life, the phone is slipping into obsolescence, time to get a new phone, forget about replacing batteries.
* Li-Ion batteries in this class have only a 2-3 year life whether they are used or not, as soon as they are manufactured the clock is ticking. Freshness matters. A 2-3 year old battery has only 60% or less original fresh capacity.
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Now that's a really good point you're making, that quality batteries are difficult to find after a couple years, or unreasonably expensive. I hadn't thought about that. Of course not that it matters with V30 :silly:
But I will say that good battery care really does make a difference with Li-Ion batteries, including minimizing the number of charging cycles AND minimizing the amount of time spent at the top and bottom of the battery's range (where its chemistry suffers the most). Case in point is the old Samsung laptop on which I am writing this: Its battery wear is still less than 20% after over six years. It is plugged in most of the time, but with Samsung's Battery Life Extender enabled, which stops charging at 80%. During those six year I've used it on battery about twice a week for meetings or presentations or working outside, but I try to avoid running it down completely. I charge it fully to 100% when I need the extra battery runtime, but mostly I have kept it within the 20-80% zone where Li-Ion is most comfortable.
With my V30 it is not practical to stop charging below 100% as I charge overnight. And maybe LG's charging logic makes it unnecessary. But I do avoid running it down completely, and I only charge it every 2-3 nights. So far my battery health is still at 102% after 8 months, according to AccuBattery -- although I am not sure how accurate that really is.
And we have soooooo hijacked this thread
So the V40 aspect of having a non-replaceable battery (like the V30 and most other current phones) was the point that went off on a tangent about the issues of phone battery replacement.
Here's the scenario, where you are careful to maximize your original phone battery by optimal charge state between 20-80%, moderate temperatures, moderate power draws, etc.:
You managed to keep it viable for an unusually long service life, maybe 3 years. Good! (But even optimal charging and service conditions cannot change the chronological aging problem of Li-ion batteries, so 3 years has dropped capacity to only 60% and falling.)
Now, you have a phone that is obsolete, with sub-par battery runtime. And, the other systems of the phone are at end of life too, because it is all designed for a 2 year service life, so failure probability is increasing rapidly.
Available batteries are stale and/or inferior quality (and most are safety hazards).
Are you going to try to keep the phone going with replacement battery? It is past the point of diminishing returns, and most aftermarket batteries are an increased safety hazard too (charging should be done only in a fully ventilated area with nothing nearby that can burn).
After learning all this by experience, I gave up on replacing phone batteries, and the user-replaceable battery.
Face it, a phone is just a disposable 2 year device. Replaceable battery is irrelevant. IMHO.
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Now that's a really good point you're making, that quality batteries are difficult to find after a couple years, or unreasonably expensive. I hadn't thought about that. Of course not that it matters with V30 :silly:
But I will say that good battery care really does make a difference with Li-Ion batteries, including minimizing the number of charging cycles AND minimizing the amount of time spent at the top and bottom of the battery's range (where its chemistry suffers the most). Case in point is the old Samsung laptop on which I am writing this: Its battery wear is still less than 20% after over six years. It is plugged in most of the time, but with Samsung's Battery Life Extender enabled, which stops charging at 80%. During those six year I've used it on battery about twice a week for meetings or presentations or working outside, but I try to avoid running it down completely. I charge it fully to 100% when I need the extra battery runtime, but mostly I have kept it within the 20-80% zone where Li-Ion is most comfortable.
With my V30 it is not practical to stop charging below 100% as I charge overnight. And maybe LG's charging logic makes it unnecessary. But I do avoid running it down completely, and I only charge it every 2-3 nights. So far my battery health is still at 102% after 8 months, according to AccuBattery -- although I am not sure how accurate that really is.
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It's not really hijacking. Somebody said they wouldn't buy a better phone (we're hoping V40 will be a better phone) than the V30 (because it is posted in this thread, so therefore the implied comparison between the two) because it won't have replaceable battery. HUH?
Well, V30 also doesn't have replaceable battery and neither did my previous Motorola phone. So, that person wasn't just criticizing the still unknown V40 but even our current V30 phone.
They won't even buy V30, which is the best phone of 2017.
In a way, we're explaining even our V30, otherwise we would all be stuck using slider keyboards Eclair Androids. For good or bad, software keyboards are defacto. (No, don't even mention BlackBerry. They are not a trend.)
And sealed batteries are defacto.
* IP68 beats any reason for replaceable battery.
* Batteries are goingng to last 2-3 years. By then, you're going to get another phone.
* Also, battery charge lasts longer than in the past, where people needed to swap out batteries mid day.
* There is also QuickCharge technology that will give you six more hours in 15 minutes... I keep Quick Charge in car and at work.
Now you can always argue for bigger batteries, but sealed batteries are here for premium phones.
Same with IR blasters. No one is begging to control their TV with their phone. Sure, it's a "cool" trick to show off one time, but it is a not a real life concern for millions of people.
Now headset jack and Qi wireless charging, THOSE are important.
DLS123 said:
Maybe you shouldn't take the phone near the swimming pool.
Or buy a phone specifically made for extreme environments if you're really not able to be careful about using electronics near water
or keep it away from kids.
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I could also admonish you to never be so clumsy... Forget about hyperactive kids, you dropped and broke your own phone. Ironically, ig you had at least dropped it in water, it would be OK.
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I dropped the V30 from 60 cm (about 24 inches) on wooden floor. The screen cracked, water resistance is gone.
These new designs are terribly flawed. Superior materials (plastics) have been replaced by metal and glass. Neither provides any functional advantage. They just make the phone more heavy and slippery. Add to that the craze about screen to body ratio aiming for 100% that does nothing but make the phones even more fragile.
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Cracked with drop of 2 feet to wooden floor, then you didn't have a case on your phone or the right case? Yeah, it's ironic we have to cover our glass phones with plastic.
You need a case for the back glass and you need raised lip on the case to protect the front display from hitting the floor.
But I like larger displays, I love IP68, I will not buy a phone without Qi wireless charging (so you can't have metal).
I do agree with you that a tightly sealed modern plastic which would still give you IP68 would definitely be better than glass (same plastic stuff race car driver helmets are made of) -- but you still wouldn't have removable battery. Those days are over.
And even though we cover our glass phones with plastic cases, somehow the buying public WANTS shiny glass at least to buy the phone. Then immediately cover it with plastic -- never to be seen again!
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I think water resistance is a great feature. Like insurance, I never intend to use it, but I still like having it "just in case"....
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FWIW, I don't think my V30 would've survived my trip to Spain for San Fermin without IP68. I can say with certainty, that it is not only water resistant, but also WINE RESISTANT!
San Fermin WINE INCOMING!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlJH_ZPBxdT/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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FWIW, I don't think my V30 would've survived my trip to Spain for San Fermin without IP68. I can say with certainty, that it is not only water resistant, but also WINE RESISTANT!
San Fermin WINE INCOMING!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlJH_ZPBxdT/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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LOL Yes, I can see that :laugh:
Drinks with sugar content (like wine and sodas) are some of the worst if they get inside electronics, because the sticky stuff remains and can keep shorting even after the liquid has dried out. So this is a perfect example of where IP68 proved to be "worth the insurance premium".
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You need a case for the back glass and you need upper lip on the case to protect the front display from hitting the floor.
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I started out with a clear TPU case with upper lip (this one) because I was terrified I would drop my expensive new glass phone. And while it did indeed protect, I never got to like the phone all the time I used it: It ruined the V30s elegant design and, ironically, it actually made me drop the phone TWICE on our tile floor because the sticky silicone rubber surface somehow surprised the tactile expectations of my hands when handling the phone.
After a few months I got a hard cover slim skin case instead (this one) and it completely changed my experience with the phone: It looks great (people now ask what kind of phone I have) and feels great in my hands. And while I realize it won't protect as well in case of a drop, I haven't dropped it since, because the mat silky surface behaves as my hands expect.
We recently got the same case for my wife's V30 -- although Rose Gold! She continues to use a Spigen clear TPU case during the week because she often drops her phone at work. But when we go out, she puts on the slim skin case
Late reply,
I understand the need-ness for ip rating and what not, but I can to grips that you'll never find a "flagship" in this day and age with everything you need ie.; Remote control, replacement battery, fast charging, military grade protection (I degress, maybe a sales pitch). I'm pretty sure everyone on xda is a tinker.. wanting to see how everything works.
With that being said I don't knock no one for their choices. I fully support anyone and their ideas. I know we are stuck (v20 7.0 2yrs) with awesome hardware but a ****ty company (sometimes or department). I don't really upgrade that much because I researched alot before I make a decision.