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My rooted KF got bricked by the new OS update that was released last night. It boots as normal, gets to the locker screen, and whether you unlock it or not, reboots about 15 seconds later to a screen showing the Android guy and an exclamation point in a yellow triangle. Then, if you start touching the screen, 4 buttons will show up on the side, up/down, select, and back... but they do nothing. Reboot again and it takes me to TWRP.
I know how to wipe my KF and reinstall everything, but I was hoping that someone might know of a fix for this. Especially because I just got a new computer and am still in the process of getting my normal apps installed, let alone Android SDKs that I use once in a blue moon. Plus, I have a few games that I would rather not lose my progress on.
BTW, I rooted my dad's KF the exact same way as mine and his just lost root access with the update, everything else is fine. Kinda weird.
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What OS update? Your new computer will not need sdk. Also you will not escape having to wipe if something has gone amuck, unless you get lucky to be able to flash the prior system to revert the defect. You could just flash modaco http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916 no more losing root from OTA`S. You may also get lucky and be able to flash modaco if you`re on rooted stock or previously rooted stock 6.3.1 without wiping.
Thepooch said:
What OS update? Your new computer will not need sdk. Also you will not escape having to wipe if something has gone amuck, unless you get lucky to be able to flash the prior system to revert the defect. You could just flash modaco http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916 no more losing root from OTA`S.
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About 3am last night, I found my KF bricked after just using it about 30 minutes before (the wifi was on and it was hooked up to the charger). Today, I checked on my dad's KF and he has his wifi turned off. I turned it on and it instantly rebooted to just a "command line" screen saying that it was installing an update. Took about 10 minutes and then rebooted and worked fine, except that it was unrooted. I read somewhere in the Amazon Forums today that they did roll out an update and plan on spending 2 weeks doing it to keep from bogging down their network. Granted, their Software Update page doesn't say anything about it yet.
BTW, thanks for the other info, I'll have to check it out. Sounds like I'll have to wipe it (or at least restore from a 2-3 month old backup and see how the update goes again). But that's cool that I won't need to install the Android SDK.
Explains why some are instantly being unrooted or like in your case bricked strange thing is that it doesn`t change the system version it`s still 6.3.1 figures that Amazon would pull something like this.
Hey, I did manage to find a quick fix!
In the recovery mode, I decided to try using the Fix Permissions option. Still had the same problem.
I then just used the Clear Cache option and my KF was back up and running... and still rooted.
The only issue I have found so far is that I had to change the permission to allow changing the wallpaper, just uncheck the "write" permissions, (which was probably reset by the Fix Permissions option I ran). Other than that 2 second fix, everything is fine.
Granted, I'm waiting for Amazon to do an auto-check for some file that was in the cache that told it that it had installed the latest upgrade, and since I wiped that, it may install it again. If it does, I'll post it in this thread that my quick fix didn't work. But so far so good.
It turns out that my quick fix is only a temp fix.
Twice tonight I had to clear the cache again via the recovery menu. The first time it happened, I had just finished reading and hit the power button to put it in sleep mode, which caused it to instantly reboot and then do the same thing as I mentioned above. It boots up, and within 5 second of getting the locker screen, whether you unlock it or not, it starts shutting down and reboots ending up with the screen in the attached pic (those dots are just dust that appear super bright for some weird reason because you can't see them except in the pic).
So I cleared the cache again, everything was fine, and then about an hour later I found it sitting on that screen again. Clearing the cache fixed it again, but obvious this is a reoccurring problem.
Anyone have any ideas?
I'm reluctant to do a reinstall yet because I'm afraid I'll just end up with the same problem... along with none of my apps installed.
I have the same issue my temp solution is turn off wifi asap after lock-screen appear, wait abt 1-2 minutes then I can turn on wifi and use as normal.
Everything will fine for few hours. Any permanent solution plz? I remember that it occurred after i update something from Amazon app store, maybe : apps...
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The permanent solution is to flash another rom preferably modaco if you want the stock experience. Full wipe, your apps can all be redownloaded that is the least of your worries at this point. probably a really good time to upgrade your bootloader and recovery if you haven`t flash both of these zips as zips in twrp if are behind the curve http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30780737&postcount=180 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632375 only get them from where I`m directing you or use smirkit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500935.
thanks for your help. This is done with the below solution
1) Copy the update bin file to the /sdcard as update.zip
Download stock ROM : https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire-updates/update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107920.bin
copy update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107920.bin into Kindle Fire and re-name to update.zip
2) From the main menu of CWM, "Wipe cache from partion" to remove the existing files in the data and cache partitions
3) From the main menu of CWM, press the "Install update.zip" button to flash the stock software onto your device.
no data/application lost accept FFF and CWM
Wiping cache doesn`t remove data in twrp its factory reset that you need to concern yourself with and unfortunately there is data loss. You may have succeeded but others put themselves in a position of needing a factory cable after not properly wiping when flashing stock. This is because the data is what the kindle has a tough time handling after a complete stock flash. Flashing modaco is far safer, truth is that it will leave your recovery and bootloader intact providing a far better safety net if something were to go wrong. Also if you create a backup before you flash if something does go wrong at least you can restore a half crap backup, wipeout recovery and this is no longer possible just saying. I see far more people fail to flash stock than I ever do flashing modaco.
Thanks for the info guys.
Considering the post in the Amazon Forums said this update was being pushed out over a 2 week period, I'm just going to keep my WiFi off (unless needed) and wait until everyone should have received the update and then see how it plays out. Considering it doesn't change the software version number, I'm thinking that this update may be just targeting rooted Fires. And BTW, it appears that the post was removed, because I can't find it again. Maybe they remove any that mention rooting? I just stumbled upon it via a Google search... 99% of the question in their forum are just idiotic.
Directv used to pull this stunt all the time to bust people with hacked cards that allowed them to get all their channels for free (usually a few hours before some big PPV event). They finally completely stopped the ability to hack cards by rolling out parts of their code over a long period of time, a year or so. When the final piece was put in place, the previous parts of their code had already been integrated into the hacked card software, because it appeared safe, and along with upgrading the type of cards they used during that same period of time, pretty much eliminated the ability to cheat Directv. I'm not saying that Amazon is going to those lengths to stop people from rooting their KFs,.. but who knows? It may be costing them too much with people bricking their KFs by trying to root them. Plus, they may also be losing revenue by people getting their free apps (with ads) from the Playstore instead of Amazon. And considering they pretty much sell their Fires for cost, they definitely rely on revenue generated by buying and using things via a stock KF.
BTW, this whole issue had almost perfect timing... I was planning on wiping my KF because it definitely is slower than when I first got it (which was day 1 of its release). I've read that Gingerbread doesn't clean up after itself too well, especially not as good as ICS (kinda like a Windows registry just gets filled with junk over time, and no cleaner beats a fresh install). It also appears that the ICS roms are actually working reliably these days, compared to the last time I checked. So, in a couple weeks, I'll get to have some fun. I am a Windows/Cisco System Engineer, so this kinda stuff is fun for me.
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It seems that Amazon did do a incremental update on the Original Kindle Fire version
6.3.1_user_4107720, April 30 build to 6.3.1_user_4107920, November 27 build.
I looked thru the update and the only things I found changed are to do with the
Wifi driver, launcher icons, boot animation, and boot.img; attached the changed file below.
I have not tried to update mine, will attempt this weekend.
Thank you Tera Tike for the info at least this confirms that it's not just a fluke users of rooted stock should be warned appreciate your research. I do wonder why they would change boot animation and IMG seems a bit haneous.
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Thank you Tera Tike for the info at least this confirms that it's not just a fluke users of rooted stock should be warned appreciate your research. I do wonder why they would change boot animation and IMG seems a bit haneous.
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It seems they increased the resolution of the images in the file, but for me I can not see the difference.
For me I wonder what they changed in the WiFi driver file, tiap_drv.ko.
Kindle Fire Reboot Problem Solved - Install MoDaCo Rom
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Wiping cache doesn`t remove data in twrp its factory reset that you need to concern yourself with and unfortunately there is data loss. You may have succeeded but others put themselves in a position of needing a factory cable after not properly wiping when flashing stock. This is because the data is what the kindle has a tough time handling after a complete stock flash. Flashing modaco is far safer, truth is that it will leave your recovery and bootloader intact providing a far better safety net if something were to go wrong. Also if you create a backup before you flash if something does go wrong at least you can restore a half crap backup, wipeout recovery and this is no longer possible just saying. I see far more people fail to flash stock than I ever do flashing modaco.
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I took Thepooch's advice and installed MoDaCo rom on my KF. It was a snap. I had FireFireFire installed with TWRP. Just downloaded MoDaCo to PC copied to KF. Rebooted to FireFireFire Installed with Install Zip utility. Took a few minutes. Rebooted didn't loose any data , apps or functionality. Its still rooted. THANKS!
No problem you can find the entire uncomplicated method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923010 or at least a synopsis of the concept.
So on Wednesday, I woke up to find all blank screens on my droid incredible. No apps, no widgets, etc. Thought this was odd. Rebooted, and they all came back. Then, came the error/force close messages. For everything. My contacts would randomly disappear, everything would just crash etc.
Went to clockwork (most recent version, whatever it is) to try to wipe the dalvik cache, regular cache, and fix permissions. Dalvik and permission fix went fine. When I tried to format the cache I got an "error formatting cache" message.
Over the last couple days, I noticed other strange problems. App updates wouldn't install properly, Every time I would reboot my phone, all my text messages from tuesday on would disappear (including any I have sent since a reboot). Apps I tried to uninstall would magically reappear on reboots. It seems that every time I rebooted my phone, it would revert back to this state prior to whatever went wrong with it.
This morning, I got a strange "UID Inconsistencies" message and telling me to wipe the phone data. My Only choice was to select a button that said "I'm Feeling Lucky"
I said screw it, I'll just backup what I need and wipe it.
Tried to do a data wipe via CW and.......when I rebooted it was like I never did. All the apps I had uninstalled were present, same issues (though slightly less prevelent), it was like I never did a factory reset at all.
I am really confused by this. I installed NO new apps prior to this, was not doing anything fancy on my phone. I rooted my phone last fall sometime, and have Touch of Blue 2.0 Rom installed. My only purpose for rooting and flashing this rom was to get rid of the dreaded "memory low" errors that plague the Incredible. I didn't experiment with anything so I am unclear how this problem arose or how to fix it. My phone basically works, but it's like the state of the phone continually reverts back to sometime between Monday and Wednesday of this week every time I reboot, no matter what I do to it, along with a slew of crazy errors that makes it extremely frustrating.
Hoping for some help. Thank you.
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So on Wednesday, I woke up to find all blank screens on my droid incredible. No apps, no widgets, etc. Thought this was odd. Rebooted, and they all came back. Then, came the error/force close messages. For everything. My contacts would randomly disappear, everything would just crash etc.
Went to clockwork (most recent version, whatever it is) to try to wipe the dalvik cache, regular cache, and fix permissions. Dalvik and permission fix went fine. When I tried to format the cache I got an "error formatting cache" message.
Over the last couple days, I noticed other strange problems. App updates wouldn't install properly, Every time I would reboot my phone, all my text messages from tuesday on would disappear (including any I have sent since a reboot). Apps I tried to uninstall would magically reappear on reboots. It seems that every time I rebooted my phone, it would revert back to this state prior to whatever went wrong with it.
This morning, I got a strange "UID Inconsistencies" message and telling me to wipe the phone data. My Only choice was to select a button that said "I'm Feeling Lucky"
I said screw it, I'll just backup what I need and wipe it.
Tried to do a data wipe via CW and.......when I rebooted it was like I never did. All the apps I had uninstalled were present, same issues (though slightly less prevelent), it was like I never did a factory reset at all.
I am really confused by this. I installed NO new apps prior to this, was not doing anything fancy on my phone. I rooted my phone last fall sometime, and have Touch of Blue 2.0 Rom installed. My only purpose for rooting and flashing this rom was to get rid of the dreaded "memory low" errors that plague the Incredible. I didn't experiment with anything so I am unclear how this problem arose or how to fix it. My phone basically works, but it's like the state of the phone continually reverts back to sometime between Monday and Wednesday of this week every time I reboot, no matter what I do to it, along with a slew of crazy errors that makes it extremely frustrating.
Hoping for some help. Thank you.
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Are you s-off, bootloader unkocked, or both? Have you tried reflashing recovery?
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Are you s-off, bootloader unkocked, or both? Have you tried reflashing recovery?
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s is on, because it seemed like too much effort to downgrade/turn it off than it was worth since my reasons for rooting didn't require it. I'm not sure what you mean by the bootloader being unlocked so probably not, and no I have not tried reflashing recovery. Will try that now.
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s is on, because it seemed like too much effort to downgrade/turn it off than it was worth since my reasons for rooting didn't require it. I'm not sure what you mean by the bootloader being unlocked so probably not, and no I have not tried reflashing recovery. Will try that now.
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Well if you have a custom recovery and have flashed a rom, then you have to be unlocked. Use fastboot and type without quotes "fastboot erase recovery " and then " fastboot flash recovery recovery.img ".
Hello, there.
Get prepared for a lot of bad bad stuff..
So, my Galaxy Nexus was running on a CM-11 Snapshot build, with AOSP kernel. Yesterday, out of the blue, the phone started to get terribly slow and not responsive at all. After a few minutes, it restarted, only to do the same. A couple of minutes maybe, booting up, then get slow and reboot - it did this constantly, and it still does.
I have tried to go into clockworkmod recovery - wiped cache, wiped dalvik cache, wipe user data (factory reset). The phone booted up again, but my apps, etc. were still there! Nothing had happened. I did it a couple of times, but nothing at all.
Then, I have found a .zip file that was still on my memory, with the latest snapshot I had installed. I tried installing it with the install from sd card option, but when it loaded up again, I was still seeing the same apps, background etc.! Nothing had happened and no error message.
Decided to leave the "custom" days behind, I downloaded the stock image for my Gnex. However, since it is a yakjuxw build, I had to flash the yakju option - so not the ideal "stock" package. Using the google installer, I was unable to proceed, since the bootloader number was different than the one that the installer expected, so it exited.
I have found online the amazing Nexus Root Toolkit from WugFresh. I tried to flash it from there, enabling the "force flash" option.
It started out ok.. But when it went to the "system" portion, it took 25 minutes (!) to complete and then in the "user data" portion, it said "write failure".
Still, rebooted and I was still seeing my apps etc. What on earth is happening?
Honestly, I would expect that it would be bricked by now, with all these rom flashes and factory resets. I even tried flashing the stable CM version for it, but still nothing had changed.
Any help would be greeeeatly appreciated.
Yeah im pretty sure your emmc is fried. So you have two options: buy a new phone or a new motherboard. You van check by locking the bootloader if its still unlocked upon reboot your emmc is fried..
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I runned "fastboot oem lock' from my command line, and I got the status "OK".
Then I pressed "restart bootloader" on my phone, but it still says "lock state - unlocked".
So I suppose, I should let it rest in piece, or change the motherboard?
I think a motherboard is more expensive than a new phone. If it is just let it die. If it isnt you can buy a new motherboard and swap it. But I dont think that is a smart move now. The moto g for example is a awesome phone for (i think) almost the price of a new mobo.
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same problem here
It makes me wonder, I'm having the exact same issue just a couple of days later. Is this the planned obsolescence thing?
withend said:
Hello, there.
Get prepared for a lot of bad bad stuff..
So, my Galaxy Nexus was running on a CM-11 Snapshot build, with AOSP kernel. Yesterday, out of the blue, the phone started to get terribly slow and not responsive at all. After a few minutes, it restarted, only to do the same. A couple of minutes maybe, booting up, then get slow and reboot - it did this constantly, and it still does.
I have tried to go into clockworkmod recovery - wiped cache, wiped dalvik cache, wipe user data (factory reset). The phone booted up again, but my apps, etc. were still there! Nothing had happened. I did it a couple of times, but nothing at all.
Then, I have found a .zip file that was still on my memory, with the latest snapshot I had installed. I tried installing it with the install from sd card option, but when it loaded up again, I was still seeing the same apps, background etc.! Nothing had happened and no error message.
Decided to leave the "custom" days behind, I downloaded the stock image for my Gnex. However, since it is a yakjuxw build, I had to flash the yakju option - so not the ideal "stock" package. Using the google installer, I was unable to proceed, since the bootloader number was different than the one that the installer expected, so it exited.
I have found online the amazing Nexus Root Toolkit from WugFresh. I tried to flash it from there, enabling the "force flash" option.
It started out ok.. But when it went to the "system" portion, it took 25 minutes (!) to complete and then in the "user data" portion, it said "write failure".
Still, rebooted and I was still seeing my apps etc. What on earth is happening?
Honestly, I would expect that it would be bricked by now, with all these rom flashes and factory resets. I even tried flashing the stable CM version for it, but still nothing had changed.
Any help would be greeeeatly appreciated.
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Google's secret weapon to make us buy the new Nexus 6.
I don't know why that happens though - dual core processor, with this amount of RAM. Tech-specs-wise, GNex has nothing to be jealous about than mid-range smartphones right now.. Unless, the CPU architecture from 2012 is so bad that it can't run properly today's apps.
Hey guys, I have these problems too. Just bought the Galaxy Nexus from a friend for €15 (cracked screen) and from the moment I turn it on, (sometimes at Nexus logo, sometimes on lockscreen.. ) it reebot itself. Again and again.
Unlocked the bootloader by toolkit or manually by fastboot but after the reboot it's locked again, as you said. I've tried Odin too with same results. The strange thing it's that it took time to do things but after the reboot, it's like I haven't done anything. I mean, even if I delete an app, or wipe data from recovery (not custom), when it turns on, it's always the same.
It's like a challenge to me. Anyone can help? I can't just give up >.<
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What the hell, just finished answering another thread with same issue (forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/help/wipe-flash-restarting-help-t2908788). Happened to me last week, very same, never touched the phone, always stock.
What the hell is going on here???
Is there any way to get any log files to determine what the hell is going on?
Mine opens up for a few minutes, maybe 3-4 and it seems to be working well.. It gradually gets unresponsive and ultimately restarts.. So, if there is anything to do during these 3-4 minutes, I would be glad to know..
If you have backed up your sdcard data to your computer, and are prepared to start from scratch (i.e. flashing bootloader and recovery via fastboot, etc.), you can do a full erasure with "fastboot -w" in fastboot mode. This has worked for me in the past to fix data corruption, of which it sounds like you may be a victim. See if that works, but make sure you've backed up your sdcard backups and other data you want to keep first!!!!!!!!
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If you have backed up your sdcard data to your computer, and are prepared to start from scratch (i.e. flashing bootloader and recovery via fastboot, etc.), you can do a full erasure with "fastboot -w" in fastboot mode. This has worked for me in the past to fix data corruption, of which it sounds like you may be a victim. See if that works, but make sure you've backed up your sdcard backups and other data you want to keep first!!!!!!!!
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Already tried, uneffective. Everything, no matter how low level (e.g. Odin) has no effect, like the memory is write-protected. I've read elsewhere this means the eMMC is fried, but if you go backwards in this forum you see many ppl had the very same problem in the past few days/weeks. Very strange indeed.
I'm having exactly the same issue, was running CM11 mod too. Could it be a cyanogen fail?
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I'm having exactly the same issue, was running CM11 mod too. Could it be a cyanogen fail?
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No. I've always been on stock.
fabrice79 said:
No. I've always been on stock.
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But could it really be a hardware fail? It's pretty strange tho that multiple device have the same hardware issue in such a short time difference
Atreb92 said:
But could it really be a hardware fail? It's pretty strange tho that multiple device have the same hardware issue in such a short time difference
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That's what I say, but just go backwards and have a look at older post. I subscribed to ~10 posts until 15 Oct then I got tired of browsing backwards...
I'm allready looking at older posts thats why i'm saying it's pretty strange that there is a massive hardware fail for this many devices. If it's a software fail there must be a solution somehow.
Same problem by 31th December...
Yeah, i have the same problem since august 2014. This thread confirmes for me, that my Gnex is really dead. It is sad, it served my very well and i wanted to use it as secondary phone and as mobile hotspot.
Same for me at the beginning of december
This problem I've faced one time and that meant that EMMC is fried, as fellow members said earlier.
If you overwrite the storage and reboot then everything's the same means that you can't write (somehow) thus emmc is dead. Write failure also means that EMMC is dead.
It's really sad, but that's it
So...
Last week, my wife's Tab S went into a bootloop. She runs complete stock, we haven't rooted, or anything. There had been a notification about an update, but she hadn't touched it. She'd updated to Lollipop at some point last year, but hadn't applied the absolute latest update. One day last week, she just turned it on, and it started bootlooping.
Because it was so stock, there were no backups, no nandroids, or anything like that. No Custom Recovery. I told her "well, we can just do a factory reset. You'll lose everything, but once we get you back up and running, it'll just re-download everything from the Goog." So we factory reset it. Looked good for a minute, booted into the first screen, enter in your Wi-Fi password, all that. As soon as we got the Wi-Fi password entered, however, it re-booted. And keep rebooting. Bootloop city. No problem. I walked her through (over the phone) using Odin to flash the latest Lollipop firmware. No dice. It appeared to flash successfully, but still bootlooped.
Over the weekend, I tried using Kies to flash the most official firmware I could find. Everything was successful -computer recognized the device, was able to download "direct from the source," as it were, but it got stuck at 69% twice before failing. I read somewhere that one had to run Kies in administrator mode to get it to successfully complete. So I did, and it got past 69%, successfully completing the flash. STILL NO LUCK. STILL WITH THE BOOTLOOPS.
Last night, I realized that I hadn't flashed in Odin using Administrator Mode. Tried it, using latest 5.0.2 (XAR-Cellular South). Flashed successfully, all appeared well. Still bootlooped.
So, I'm stuck. I can get into recovery, I can get into Download Mode, I can successfully flash. I just can't get the darn thing booted.
Thoughts, anyone? Should I try flashing a Custom ROM? How hard is that using Odin? Thanks in advance.
Ok this will take a few tries but here is my method of dealing with this situation
1) Flash stock using Odin
2) AS SOON AS the screen goes blank, start holding Power+Volume Up+Home
3) When recovery boots, release the buttons
4) Use the volume buttons to select "Wipe data/factory reset"
5) Press power to confirm
6) Reboot
If that doesn't work, you may either:
1) (more likely) Installing a ROM will fix the problem
2) (unlikely but possible) You might have worn NAND pages, which I doubt but could cause this behavior.
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Ok this will take a few tries but here is my method of dealing with this situation
1) Flash stock using Odin
2) AS SOON AS the screen goes blank, start holding Power+Volume Up+Home
3) When recovery boots, release the buttons
4) Use the volume buttons to select "Wipe data/factory reset"
5) Press power to confirm
6) Reboot
If that doesn't work, you may either:
1) (more likely) Installing a ROM will fix the problem
2) (unlikely but possible) You might have worn NAND pages, which I doubt but could cause this behavior.
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Thanks, I'll try these steps tonight when I get home, and report back!
All right, here's something interesting. Before I tried your first step, I remembered that the other night, I left it stuck at the Samsung logo -it was just kind of stuck there, and since the behavior was a little different than I'd seen before (not continuous bootlooping), I thought I'd boot into recovery and wipe. I did, I wiped (factory reset), and rebooted. The tablet booted into the first screen, Accessibility/Wi-Fi, blahblah. This was where it usually rebooted. On a hunch, I bypassed entering in my WiFi key. I then bypassed almost everything else (Samsung account, Google account, etc.), expecting that the tablet would reboot at any moment. But I made it to the front apps page, where it shows you the side-launcher, the Magazine-Flipboard thingie, and whatnot. Wi-Fi still not connected, though. I opened up the app drawer, and scrolled around. Looked really good for a moment. I even took a picture with the camera, and viewed it in Gallery! Feeling brave, I thought, "well, maybe it just needed a couple of minutes before firing up the radio." So I went into settings, and inputted my WiFi key. It connected. And rebooted into its bootloop. (getting so tired of that boot-sound).
Went ahead and flashed the most original stock firmware I could find. As always, flashed successfully. As soon as it booted, I made my way to recovery, and wiped, per your instructions. No luck. Bootloop again.
It's something in the WiFi is what I've come to think as a result of the above. Which I don't entirely understand, as I thought the radio got re-flashed with the firmware.
I'm ready to try flashing a Custom Rom. Can I do that through Odin, or should I try and flash TWRP, and do it through there? Will TWRP flash without a working (bootable) OS?
All right. Thanks for your response!
Try this as a test.
First make a full backup of every partition with twrp including the EFS <<IMPORTANT!
Get it booting again without wifi then root the device and delete the EFS folder or delete it in recovery.
Reboot the device and try and enable wifi.
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Try this as a test.
First make a full backup of every partition with twrp including the EFS <<IMPORTANT!
Get it booting again without wifi then root the device and delete the EFS folder or delete it in recovery.
Reboot the device and try and enable wifi.
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Got TWRP installed. Won't backup. Fails at 16% (system partition, I think). Just powers down to battery indicator in the middle of the backup. Looks like it backs up the EFS, though, since it's the first one. And when I go into TWRP's Restore option, there's a backup there (though I don't dare try and restore it).
Now I have to figure out a way to get the Custom ROM and GAPPS I downloaded onto the tablet without a reliable boot... It's gotten to the front screen a time or two tonight, but starts looping even when I bypass the WiFi setup.
Entered adb/TWRP interface. Tried to push two files, a Custom ROM file, and a GAPPS file. The ROM failed, with some sort of "Error 7," incompatible data, blahblah... Just out of curiosity, I tried to push the GAPPS file, and that failed after about 6%, and the tablet powered off.
I'm running out of ideas.
copied a custom rom to a USB/OTG stick (thumbdrive), and plugged it in. Fired up TWRP, tried to install. Wouldn't. Wouldn't install GAPPS, either. Looks like the only way it wants to flash anything is through ODIN or KIES.
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I remembered that sometimes the TWRP version mattered. When I installed TRWP last night, I installed the latest and greatest, 3.0.2. Last night after I gave up, I remembered that sometimes, the latest and greatest TWRP doesn't install things perfectly. So, this morning, I downloaded TWRP 2.8.6-ish onto the USB/OTG device, and re-flashed the recovery partition. To be honest, I was surprised that TWRP was even able to flash that (but the TWRP image is only like 9.8 MB, so...)...
Got TWRP 2.8.6.0 flashed, and rebooted into TWRP. Immediately decided to try and re-flash the custom ROM that I'd tried unsuccessfully to flash last night, since the thumbdrive was still plugged in. Resurrection Remix Lollipop. Lined up GAPPS in the queue, as well. The ROM *appeared* to flash better than it had in TWRP 3.0.2, but it was sort of hard to see... GAPPS failed, and I was prepared to watch another round of bootloops. It did bootloop, sort of. The RR splash screen appeared, said that it was installing (or preparing) xx out of XX apps. Then, it rebooted. I figured it was doing its bootloop thing. However, it got to the same screen, "installing xx out of XX apps. Except that XX number had gone down, and the xx number had gone up. It repeated this action about 4 times --the last time I saw it reboot, it was "installing 1 out of 2 apps." And then...?
It booted into the RR lockscreen.
Of course, there were no GAPPS. In fact, there are something like only 20 apps total on the tablet. But it appears somewhat stable at the moment. (See picture).
Afraid to try and connect WiFi, afraid that it'll just bootloop.
Speaking of bootloop. At one point, once we got it booted, my wife hit an option in the Settings. LCD Density, I believe. As soon as she hit it (she literally just placed her finger over the 320 default option), the tablet rebooted. No loop, though. Rebooted straight back to the RR lockscreen.
So I appear to have a somewhat stable OS flashed onto the tablet at the moment. No GAPPS, though. No WiFi.
Anybody have a suggestion on where to go from here? I have my doubts as to whether or not I can even back up this configuration.
Sorry about all the updates. I kind of figured that if *anyone* else ever goes through what I'm going through, they'll have some sense of all the different things that can be tried in resurrecting a bricked/bootlooping device. I appreciate everyone's efforts to date -thank you so much, @Lightn1ng and @ashyx.
All right, because I can't leave well enough alone....
I got WiFi up and working. Tablet still stable and working. Wheeeee.... No GAPPS, though.
Downloaded GAPPS, second-smallest package from opengapps- only 128M (5.1 ARM package). Downloaded it in Android, from the tablet! Tried to flash it in TWRP. Failed, tablet rebooted halfway (not even) through. Now it's bootlooping again...
I should've left well enough alone, and waited for someone. Have tried re-installing Resurrection Remix, but tablet keeps failing to flash. Might have to try and flash a different TWRP. I don't know...
Have you tried another Gapps? Also, is this the WiFi only model or the LTE model we're talking about?
Lightn1ng said:
Have you tried another Gapps? Also, is this the WiFi only model or the LTE model we're talking about?
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It's the WiFi-only model - SM-T800.
It's kind of weird. I thought it might be some sort of internal memory problem (like the worn Nand pages you mentioned), since almost anything I try to do in TWRP fails (although I was able to flash an entire Custom ROM the one time AND get it booted) -but backing up isn't working, whether it's to internal/external SD. And the fact that I can flash perfectly (subjective term there) well using Odin or Kies tells me that whatever problems the tablet is having, something's getting through.
I'll try a different GAPPS package. Right now, though, TWRP isn't letting me flash hardly anything, and moving files back and forth on this thing is just awful.
AGH - I was so close!
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It's the WiFi-only model - SM-T800.
It's kind of weird. I thought it might be some sort of internal memory problem (like the worn Nand pages you mentioned), since almost anything I try to do in TWRP fails (although I was able to flash an entire Custom ROM the one time AND get it booted) -but backing up isn't working, whether it's to internal/external SD. And the fact that I can flash perfectly (subjective term there) well using Odin or Kies tells me that whatever problems the tablet is having, something's getting through.
I'll try a different GAPPS package. Right now, though, TWRP isn't letting me flash hardly anything, and moving files back and forth on this thing is just awful.
AGH - I was so close!
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I'm running out of ideas!
Maybe somebody else with a T800 could backup their entire EMMC using
Code:
dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/sdcard/full_nand_dump.bin
And you take the file on your tablet and do
Code:
dd if=/sdcard/full_nand_dump.bin of=/dev/mmcblk0
And restore YOUR efs folder using TWRP.
THIS IS A DANGEROUS OPERATION AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES WRONG!
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@ashyx Any more ideas before I go ahead with my evil world domination plan to recover this device?
I wouldnt carry out any risky operations until a full backup can be made with twrp or you may end up with an unrecoverable device.
If twrp cannot backup the system partition then there is an issue with the partition.
Try backup again and post the recovery log, it may contain some relative information.
I have the same issues and have tried eveything. I was rooted and running the latest Pheonix rom on my sm-t800. Last Wednesday (8-10) I starting getting boot loops out of nowhere, no new apps nothing just a daily driver. I've been through everything on here and have gone back to bone stock but to no avail, the boot loops just keep coming. I can connect to wifi and get things set up but if I try to use anything more than 'light usage' the tab starts its boot loops again and rows fits for about 10 minutes and always different timing on the boot. Sometimes it will make it to the Samsung logo, sometime only to Tab S and sometimes about 10 seconds of usage.. I know this isn't helping much but wanted to let you know there are more of us with the same problem. Will be blab to try anything to help said issue.
Exactly the same issue on my LTE version.
Samsung support just asked me 230€ for a new motherboard.
I refused to repair. I think it is related to nand memory..
Hello I have both the 8.4" and 10.5" I updated the 8.4" to Android 5.02 nothing but boot loops my other is still on 442 and I wont be updating it as its working fine. I have been reading a few posts and the problem was right in front of me all the time I have 2 internet connections 2.4 GHZ and 5.0 GHZ if I connect to the 5.0 GHZ I get boot loops but if I stay on 2.4 GHZ no problems what so ever so I may just install a custom rom and my 10.5 tab and stay clear of the faster internet.
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Hello I have both the 8.4" and 10.5" I updated the 8.4" to Android 5.02 nothing but boot loops my other is still on 442 and I wont be updating it as its working fine. I have been reading a few posts and the problem was right in front of me all the time I have 2 internet connections 2.4 GHZ and 5.0 GHZ if I connect to the 5.0 GHZ I get boot loops but if I stay on 2.4 GHZ no problems what so ever so I may just install a custom rom and my 10.5 tab and stay clear of the faster internet.
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Why not just update to Marshmallow? Absolutely no issues for me.
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Why not just update to Marshmallow? Absolutely no issues for me.
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Now i figured out its the wifi thats causing the problem i will update to android 6.01 or if i can find a good custom rom il risk that.
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It's the WiFi-only model - SM-T800.
It's kind of weird. I thought it might be some sort of internal memory problem (like the worn Nand pages you mentioned), since almost anything I try to do in TWRP fails (although I was able to flash an entire Custom ROM the one time AND get it booted) -but backing up isn't working, whether it's to internal/external SD. And the fact that I can flash perfectly (subjective term there) well using Odin or Kies tells me that whatever problems the tablet is having, something's getting through.
I'll try a different GAPPS package. Right now, though, TWRP isn't letting me flash hardly anything, and moving files back and forth on this thing is just awful.
AGH - I was so close!
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I have the same issues and have tried eveything. I was rooted and running the latest Pheonix rom on my sm-t800. Last Wednesday (8-10) I starting getting boot loops out of nowhere, no new apps nothing just a daily driver. I've been through everything on here and have gone back to bone stock but to no avail, the boot loops just keep coming. I can connect to wifi and get things set up but if I try to use anything more than 'light usage' the tab starts its boot loops again and rows fits for about 10 minutes and always different timing on the boot. Sometimes it will make it to the Samsung logo, sometime only to Tab S and sometimes about 10 seconds of usage.. I know this isn't helping much but wanted to let you know there are more of us with the same problem. Will be blab to try anything to help said issue.
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Hello,
and the rest of story??
i can flash TWRP in download mode, and i can intall zip by TWRP , the lineage rom,
but, cant odin flash official md5 file, it stucks on logo.
So I got a warranty refurb sent to me from Google I started it up and loaded it up from a backup.
Since then I just manually install my apps don't restore from backup up the back up seems to be worse right away.
From the factory room I tied a factory reset and on setting up the phone Google play services would crash instently couldn't do anything same after the next factory resetnusing the recovery menu of holding power button then long hitting volume up.
So that's when I reflashed updated factory rom.
Since day one Google service, Google maps, Google photos and Google play services all have random crashes they seem to happen the most around 4am 12pm 4pm 7pm
I have tried deleting app caches and storage still happens I have removed myself from the beta programs still have issues
I have factory reset a few times I've gone a day without installing third party apps and I just can't go without something's but even no third party apps I have issues but less
I have reloaded the Android rom to both partition a and b and I seem to get an issue on partition a seems to always never boot stays at the loading screen some times I boot and it's like the radio never booted says no sim and no signal reboot and everything works.
Sometimes when having crashing issues the apps will get very pixilated looking in the app drawer also on a boot I had the Google splash screen fill-up the whole screen and poor quality.
From what I know about pcs typically I'd start testing ram and hdd if those were good then I'd say the motherboard is bad and then that's usually the end of issues
Anyone got ideas I can try. Are there ways to test ram and storage?
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So I got a warranty refurb sent to me from Google I started it up and loaded it up from a backup.
Since then I just manually install my apps don't restore from backup up the back up seems to be worse right away.
From the factory room I tied a factory reset and on setting up the phone Google play services would crash instently couldn't do anything same after the next factory resetnusing the recovery menu of holding power button then long hitting volume up.
So that's when I reflashed updated factory rom.
Since day one Google service, Google maps, Google photos and Google play services all have random crashes they seem to happen the most around 4am 12pm 4pm 7pm
I have tried deleting app caches and storage still happens I have removed myself from the beta programs still have issues
I have factory reset a few times I've gone a day without installing third party apps and I just can't go without something's but even no third party apps I have issues but less
I have reloaded the Android rom to both partition a and b and I seem to get an issue on partition a seems to always never boot stays at the loading screen some times I boot and it's like the radio never booted says no sim and no signal reboot and everything works.
Sometimes when having crashing issues the apps will get very pixilated looking in the app drawer also on a boot I had the Google splash screen fill-up the whole screen and poor quality.
From what I know about pcs typically I'd start testing ram and hdd if those were good then I'd say the motherboard is bad and then that's usually the end of issues
Anyone got ideas I can try. Are there ways to test ram and storage?
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From your post, I'm really not sure If I understand how you first started out of the box, but you did eventually flash a full Google image without modifying the flash-all script, right? In other words you did not remove the "-w" switch and allowed the script to wipe data and begin fresh? Before ruling it a hardware issue, you may want to try Deuce's Script which seems to have some success in restoring the phone to a factory state and recovering from various problems. Try to avoid the temptation of just jumping in and running the script... take the time to read up first before you get started. Best of luck! :good:
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From your post, I'm really not sure If I understand how you first started out of the box, but you did eventually flash a full Google image without modifying the flash-all script, right? In other words you did not remove the "-w" switch and allowed the script to wipe data and begin fresh? Before ruling it a hardware issue, you may want to try Deuce's Script which seems to have some success in restoring the phone to a factory state and recovering from various problems. Try to avoid the temptation of just jumping in and running the script... take the time to read up first before you get started. Best of luck! :good:
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Returned previous phone because the vibrate motor stopped and thought it would be nice to get a newer phone that wasn't rushed released maybe.
When flashed new rom yes just ran the script since all you need to do is double tap on it as long as all updated adb/fastboot is in same folder also looked up how to manually switch partition which looked like it was only doing one partition.
Thanks you for letting me know about the other script I'll try that.
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Tried it still same issue most time the issues would be non existent untill I opened an app at the wrong time then it was like i got hit with a virus or something.
But sent out the refurb got another refurb have had 0 issues thank goodness! Glad I'm done with that.