I cannot get the developer edition M9 to become activated on Verizon Wireless in United States.
According to HTC website: us/go/htc-one-unlocked-developer
HTC One M9 Unlocked & Developer Edition Band Support
2 (1,900 MHz)
3 (1,800 MHz)
4 (1,700 MHz AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2,600 MHz)
12 (700 MHz lower A/B/C)
13 (700 MHz upper C)
17 (700 MHz lower B/C)
29 (700 MHz D/E)
30 (2,300 MHz WCS)
And according to Wikipedia: wiki/Verizon_Wireless#Radio_frequency_summary
Frequencies used on the Verizon Network
Frequency Band Band number Protocol Class Status Notes
850 MHz Cellular 0 1xRTT/EV-DO/eHRPD 3G Active
1900 MHz PCS 1 1xRTT/EV-DO/eHRPD 3G Active Planning to reallocate to 4G in 2015.[34]
700 MHz Block C 13 LTE 4G Active Full coverage achieved at the end of Q2 2013, former UHF TV channel 54 uplink and 59 downlink.[35]
1700/2100 MHz AWS 4 LTE 4G Active Branded as "XLTE",[36] Additional band for increased bandwidth.
1900 MHz PCS 2 LTE 4G Building out Being deployed,[37] Additional band for increased bandwidth.
So am I screwed because the HTC One M9 Developer edition does not support bands 0 and 1 that Verizon uses?
soccercake7 said:
I cannot get the developer edition M9 to become activated on Verizon Wireless in United States.
According to HTC website: us/go/htc-one-unlocked-developer
HTC One M9 Unlocked & Developer Edition Band Support
2 (1,900 MHz)
3 (1,800 MHz)
4 (1,700 MHz AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2,600 MHz)
12 (700 MHz lower A/B/C)
13 (700 MHz upper C)
17 (700 MHz lower B/C)
29 (700 MHz D/E)
30 (2,300 MHz WCS)
And according to Wikipedia: wiki/Verizon_Wireless#Radio_frequency_summary
Frequencies used on the Verizon Network
Frequency Band Band number Protocol Class Status Notes
850 MHz Cellular 0 1xRTT/EV-DO/eHRPD 3G Active
1900 MHz PCS 1 1xRTT/EV-DO/eHRPD 3G Active Planning to reallocate to 4G in 2015.[34]
700 MHz Block C 13 LTE 4G Active Full coverage achieved at the end of Q2 2013, former UHF TV channel 54 uplink and 59 downlink.[35]
1700/2100 MHz AWS 4 LTE 4G Active Branded as "XLTE",[36] Additional band for increased bandwidth.
1900 MHz PCS 2 LTE 4G Building out Being deployed,[37] Additional band for increased bandwidth.
So am I screwed because the HTC One M9 Developer edition does not support bands 0 and 1 that Verizon uses?
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The Developer Edition is a GSM / AT&T / T-mobile / International device
Verizon is a CDMA carrier / Same as Sprint. If you did get the DE to work on a CDMA carrier it would be very limited in it's abilities.
Right. I was confused because I tried to do due diligence before I ordered and was told by HTC that it would work on Verizon. But after further research, obviously not. Bummer
Well if I get the Verizon version I'll have locked bootloader. Will the M8 developer edition work on CDMA?
soccercake7 said:
Right. I was confused because I tried to do due diligence before I ordered and was told by HTC that it would work on Verizon. But after further research, obviously not. Bummer
Well if I get the Verizon version I'll have locked bootloader. Will the M8 developer edition work on CDMA?
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All Developer Edition phones from HTC are GSM / AT&T / International
soccercake7 said:
Right. I was confused because I tried to do due diligence before I ordered and was told by HTC that it would work on Verizon. But after further research, obviously not. Bummer
Well if I get the Verizon version I'll have locked bootloader. Will the M8 developer edition work on CDMA?
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Yup, I had HTC tell me me the same thing about it working on Sprint. They don't have any clue what they are talking about. You need the Verizon one.
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I was wondering if I purchase an unlocked HTC one, will it work with Verizon?
You have to see the frequencies of the carrier
But, probably, yes!
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
gunnyman said:
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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My friend said me that verizon use GSM radio...
I'm confused
Guich said:
You have to see the frequencies of the carrier
But, probably, yes!
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gunnyman said:
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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Okay, I checked and the Frequencies are the same but HTC One unlocked says nothing about CDMA. Thanks for the help
Guich said:
My friend said me that verizon use GSM radio...
I'm confused
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VZW uses two different technologies.
the voice is carried on CDMA as is their 3G EVDO data.
LTE is used, but not the same bands as AT&T or T-Mobile.
The only major carriers in the US on GSM are T-Mobile and AT&T (and their mvno's)
Hi, it looks like I'm reviving this thread...
I've done a bit of homework and on htc.com the One specs are as follows:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
On the Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon:
LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
It looks to me like the phone supports all ranges and has both styles/types of radios. Has anyone been able to get an unlocked One working with Verizon? Does anyone know how to do it? If I buy an unlocked One, would it come packed with all the network support as listed above or do they manufacture them with only a specific radio/frequency range in mind?
d-pabs said:
Hi, it looks like I'm reviving this thread...
I've done a bit of homework and on htc.com the One specs are as follows:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
On the Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon:
LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
It looks to me like the phone supports all ranges and has both styles/types of radios. Has anyone been able to get an unlocked One working with Verizon? Does anyone know how to do it? If I buy an unlocked One, would it come packed with all the network support as listed above or do they manufacture them with only a specific radio/frequency range in mind?
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Nope
No
Stop nope, just no.
Verizon and Sprint use CDMA as their base on their Network. The only HTC One with CDMA is the Sprint version. But you can't use the Sprint version on Verizon.
That's why when the Sprint version was released developers had to tweak their roms and recoveries since the outside was the same but the insides no.
Yes LTE is gsm based and requires a GSM radio. And yes when the Verizon HTC one is released it can be used on TMo and AT&T. Since it has both CDMA & GSM radios.
But NO NO NO you CAN NOT use a AT&T, T-Mobile, Dev Edition,Sprint, or Iternational HTC One on Verizon.
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which is required for voice.
Until Voice over LTE is fully implemented voice is still falling back into CDMA.
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Thanks for your help! I realized I was misunderstanding the way those specs were written, thinking a single phone carried all those ranges and could work equally across the board.
I'm leaning towards getting an unlocked phone for T-Mobile. Any suggestions on where to get it from? If I get it from T-Mobile then it will likely have bloat on it which I don't care for. I could get it from Google Play or HTC's shopamerica...Is there an "easy" way to determine whether or not a phone will fully function on a particular network? Clearly my line of thinking on just making sure the frequency ranges match up is rather off!
Depends what freq your carrier uses for 3G etc. Only the international and dev edition are bloat free. But your at xda there are threads all over the place to help you debloat.
Again T-Mobile is the only one with 1700 3G band.
The dev doesn't have 1700, but has other extra bands. And the international lacks LTE.
Only Verizon will sell their version of the ONE. All the others are all over the internet.
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Tachi91 said:
Again T-Mobile is the only one with 1700 3G band.
The dev doesn't have 1700, but has other extra bands. And the international lacks LTE.
Only Verizon will sell their version of the ONE. All the others are all over the internet.
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So if I travel internationally and want to have the use of LTE, it sounds like I would need to get the unlocked "international" One? If the so-called "developer" version of the One doesn't have the 1700 band, will one of the other bands take over/compensate? In other words, will the developer phone still be fully functional? I also assume that by "developer" phone you're referring to both the unlocked 32 and 64Gb phones sold at shopamerica.com?
Lastly, here's what I'm doing: I want to buy a phone that I can use in the US and if I travel to Canada, I want to make sure it is compatible with their networks too so all I would need to do is pick up a new sim card and be off to the races. If I'm understanding everything, then the phone on shopamerica should be sufficient.
Any thoughts? Thanks again for the help! I've never dealt with network matching and unlocked phones. Can you tell?!
Stick with the developer edition since it offers more 3G bands ... LTE outside the US it would depend if whatever carrier you use on that country uses any any of the LTE bands it supports.
A lot of the major carriers around the world use similar 3G bands most will work on this phone. Again it all depends on which carried you use.
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I see that the T-Mobile LTE version is available in the US on the play store. It is significantly cheaper than in the UK.
I bought the v1 WiFi nexus 7 in the US and had no issues. If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
Thanks
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aidanbree said:
If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
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Even GSM networks operate on different frequencies on different continents. LTE networks may have other frequencies than GSM networks.
I found a (german) comparisation list for LTE frequencies. For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
So, if you buy an US version, it will be useless in UK. Besides the useability, you may have to pay taxes on import, additional to p&p. Will it still be cheaper then?
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For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
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For France, same frequencies than UK.
We will use someday 700 MHz also.
Some of us are waitin 4 an Euro LTE Nexus 7.
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
HSishi said:
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
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My brother is over in the US next week and could therefore bring it back without P&P and most likely other charges.
In the UK the price is 320 GBP so the saving is around 100GBP with the currency conversion.
Currently I have my mobile with T-Mobile and a sim that I use in a mifi on Three. I am looking to move the Three mifi sim into the Nexus but I don't think that looks like it would work as it states they will use 800 and 1800. I presume that both frequencies are used?
The US device can't use the 800 MHz band, but the 1800. Maybe your carrier operates LTE at 1800, maybe not. Can't say that from here (Germany).
Going to take a chance. The US price for the LTE is cheaper than the WiFi only in the UK. Will advise how I get on
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Same here Czech rep, 32 gb lte is the same price than 16 gb wifi here. But i need the 3G/4G internet can't risk it i must know
Aidenbree: this is exactly what i was thinking of doing too, so thanks for asking the question! I'm also on Three and would be really interested to hear how you get on. £100 saving is worth thinking about!
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
ygvuhb said:
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
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Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
mathieulh said:
Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
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omg
the radio is the same
seem they fix the band though hardware
any chance the software detect the mobile services provider to decide using which band
I can't seem to find any information on HTC's website regarding the LTE bands the unlocked variants have? Can anyone help me out? Thanks
MattMJB0188 said:
I can't seem to find any information on HTC's website regarding the LTE bands the unlocked variants have? Can anyone help me out? Thanks
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It has the information.
HTC One M9 Unlocked & Developer Edition Band Support
2 (1,900 MHz)
3 (1,800 MHz)
4 (1,700 MHz AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2,600 MHz)
12 (700 MHz lower A/B/C)
13 (700 MHz upper C)
17 (700 MHz lower B/C)
29 (700 MHz D/E)
30 (2,300 MHz WCS)
I also want to ask about can this version work on Verizon LTE network?
Can I use a US Cellular n910r4 on Verizon? I know it's a CDMA phone. From what I've seen the phone has an unlocked bootloader and can be rooted with cf-auto-root. Does anyone know? I apologize if this has been covered before.
w00ly said:
Can I use a US Cellular n910r4 on Verizon? I know it's a CDMA phone. From what I've seen the phone has an unlocked bootloader and can be rooted with cf-auto-root. Does anyone know? I apologize if this has been covered before.
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Carrier Network 3g bands 3g frequencies 4g lte bands 4g lte frequencies
AT&T GSM/UMTS/HSPA+ 2, 5 1900, 850 2, 4, 12, 17 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
VERIZON CDMA 0, 1 850, 1900 2, 4, 13 1900, 1700 f, 700 c
T-MOBILE GSM/UMTS/HSPA+ 2, 4 1900, 1700/2100 2, 4, 12 1900, 1700 def, 700 a
SPRINT CDMA 10, 1 800, 1900 25, 26, 41 1900 g, 850, 2500
US CELLULAR CDMA 0, 1 850, 1900 5, 12 850, 700 ab
I'm not 100 percent sure but according to this it looks like it should work but you might only get 3g because US Cellular and Verizon have the same bands and frequencies for 3g but not 4g lte.
Sorry for the weird formatting, I can't post links yet.
I currently have a Verizon HTC 10 but am wanting to make the switch to T-Mobile. Anyone know if I would be able to use my phone on T-Mobile's network? I tried Google but mostly everything was about using an Unlocked HTC 10 on Verizon.
If the Verizon HTC 10 is unlocked, then in "most" places it will work including cellular data. Continue reading...
Below is the network info for HTC 10 from Verizon and specs do show that 3g/4g(UMTS) should work find as long as you are in 1900 band area. It is because the phone is missing 1700 that T-Mobile is using. As for LTE signal, you are covered I have made bands in "bold" and they represent T-Mobile compatible bands that Verizon model has.
CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz, GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz , UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz, LTE: Band 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 13, 20, 28
https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/htc-10/