Hi. I was just browsing through and found some articles commending the newly releases update saying it fixes the camera to an arm's length.
Can anyone confirm is this update is indeed good.?
http://phandroid.com/2015/04/09/htc-one-m9-camera-update-comparison/
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2908091/htc-one-m9-camera-software-update.html
hymnz said:
Hi. I was just browsing through and found some articles commending the newly releases update saying it fixes the camera to an arm's length.
Can anyone confirm is this update is indeed good.?
http://phandroid.com/2015/04/09/htc-one-m9-camera-update-comparison/
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2908091/htc-one-m9-camera-software-update.html
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According to the comparison on the site, I think that's a decent update, the pictures do look better. However the quality to me is still nowhere near how a flagship device should take pictures.
mr1029x said:
According to the comparison on the site, I think that's a decent update, the pictures do look better. However the quality to me is still nowhere near how a flagship device should take pictures.
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Agreed! Its improving but no where near it should be. I can't believe it had to take all the bad reviews for HTC to finally start working on this. +1
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Agreed! Its improving but no where near it should be. I can't believe it had to take all the bad reviews for HTC to finally start working on this. +1
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Feel sorry for HTC actually, I think that they have been working hard to address the camera issue for many years now, but the customers' demand kinda make it really hard for them to follow
In 2013 they started their focus on picture quality, especially low light performance with the M7. The results weren't great, but it showed potential. The M8's camera to me focused more on features rather than quality with that gimmicky Dual-Camera system (which nobody really liked). But again, it was a very good idea for them stay away from the Megapixel and actually focus on what really matters rather than just give customers specs.
We should've encouraged them to stay on that path, but so many users seemed upset with the lack of picture details. So HTC has to give them what they want with a 20 MP camera which shows detail, yes. However, the image processing ability is such a letdown. And I think that this is not just a software issue, but also a sensor issue, I have never seen a flagship phone with a weird Toshiba sensor. But hey, what do you expect from a company which has been staying away from the MP war for awhile and now is forced to get back in?
Does anyone know when this will be released on the unlocked model from HTC, if it hasn't been already?
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Feel sorry for HTC actually, I think that they have been working hard to address the camera issue for many years now, but the customers' demand kinda make it really hard for them to follow
In 2013 they started their focus on picture quality, especially low light performance with the M7. The results weren't great, but it showed potential. The M8's camera to me focused more on features rather than quality with that gimmicky Dual-Camera system (which nobody really liked). But again, it was a very good idea for them stay away from the Megapixel and actually focus on what really matters rather than just give customers specs.
We should've encouraged them to stay on that path, but so many users seemed upset with the lack of picture details. So HTC has to give them what they want with a 20 MP camera which shows detail, yes. However, the image processing ability is such a letdown. And I think that this is not just a software issue, but also a sensor issue, I have never seen a flagship phone with a weird Toshiba sensor. But hey, what do you expect from a company which has been staying away from the MP war for awhile and now is forced to get back in?
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The Toshiba sensor has plenty of potential ..HTC just need's to get it tuned in
From the review of the Nokia 830 with the same Toshiba sensor
In testing by the PureView Club, Sony's 20.7 megapixel EXMOR sensor was compared extensively to the previous generation 20.1 megapixel Toshiba sensor. The overall finding was that the Toshiba sensor produced a slightly underexposed image, while Sony's sensor tended to overexpose (wash out). Generally, underexposure is more desirable as it can be more accurately post-processed to a neutral exposure. - See more at: http://www.dailytech.com/Lumia+830+...+Sensor/article36406.htm#sthash.JhEioRm7.dpuf
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btw based on android central this update is only coming to the us models the international already recieved there update earlier last month
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The Toshiba sensor has plenty of potential ..HTC just need's to get it tuned in
From the review of the Nokia 830 with the same Toshiba sensor
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I didn't mean it that way. What I meant was that I think HTC Devs isn't fully familiar with how the Toshiba sensor captures and gathers pictures' info, especially after 2 years working with the "Ultrapixel" camera. Therefore the image processing software isn't optimized to get the best out of it and HTC released the phone a bit too early, they should've waited for a couple more weeks or even a month, look at the G4, LG sure take their time. I wouldn't mind waiting either.
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I didn't mean it that way. What I meant was that I think HTC Devs isn't fully familiar with how the Toshiba sensor captures and gathers pictures' info, especially after 2 years working with the "Ultrapixel" camera. Therefore the image processing software isn't optimized to get the best out of it and HTC released the phone a bit too early, they should've waited for a couple more weeks or even a month, look at the G4, LG sure take their time. I wouldn't mind waiting either.
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Yeah your right their, after 15 crappy reviews I'm sure they wish they would have waited and got it perfect first now
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Feel sorry for HTC actually, I think that they have been working hard to address the camera issue for many years now, but the customers' demand kinda make it really hard for them to follow
In 2013 they started their focus on picture quality, especially low light performance with the M7. The results weren't great, but it showed potential. The M8's camera to me focused more on features rather than quality with that gimmicky Dual-Camera system (which nobody really liked). But again, it was a very good idea for them stay away from the Megapixel and actually focus on what really matters rather than just give customers specs.
We should've encouraged them to stay on that path, but so many users seemed upset with the lack of picture details. So HTC has to give them what they want with a 20 MP camera which shows detail, yes. However, the image processing ability is such a letdown. And I think that this is not just a software issue, but also a sensor issue, I have never seen a flagship phone with a weird Toshiba sensor. But hey, what do you expect from a company which has been staying away from the MP war for awhile and now is forced to get back in?
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Heard about Nokia? Finnish company bought by micro, known 4 having great cameras? It's about htc not very good at optimization of the software I think. Let's see.
Hi, I just got my Developers Edition today and I did get an update right away, only it is different that the one on this post. This one is 1.32.617.30, did anyone else got this?
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Chingonazo
Chingonazo said:
Hi, I just got my Developers Edition today and I did get an update right away, only it is different that the one on this post. This one is 1.32.617.30, did anyone else got this?
Thanks
Chingonazo
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Yes this is the version I have as well
I got an update as soon as I turned on my M9 last week, but forgot to check what fixes were included it was the 1.32.206.15 not sure if the Camera fix was included (I assume it was).
Chingonazo said:
Hi, I just got my Developers Edition today and I did get an update right away, only it is different that the one on this post. This one is 1.32.617.30, did anyone else got this?
Thanks
Chingonazo
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I have the unlocked version and had this update right away too. I wonder if it is the same camera update.
Just wondering if you guys could give your thoughts on the camera with the update compared to before and compared to the M8 or the m7.
I am on 1.33.605.15 and there is no update available. You guys think this includes the camera update? I would assume so because it is a higher number but I haven't seen that build mentioned anywhere.
I am on AT&T in the US running stock and have Android version 5.0.2. HTC Sense 7.0, and Software Number 1.32.502.9.
Kernel version 3.10.49-gcea571a [email protected]#1 SMP PREEMPT
xgerryx said:
I am on 1.33.605.15 and there is no update available. You guys think this includes the camera update? I would assume so because it is a higher number but I haven't seen that build mentioned anywhere.
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Since HTC claims it's a software issue that will be fixed in v4.3
Here's with the HTC built in Camera (I didn't wait very long, but it quickly went from bad to worse once the photo was taken)
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...24dacf9/2/2/9/9/7/2/9/2013-10-03_07.39.30.jpg
And here's with the Google Camera apk (the photosphere capable one).
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...24dad38/2/2/9/9/7/3/0/2013-10-03_07.39.55.jpg
The problem persists (I waited longer, that's why it looks worse), so whatever "software" issue is going on, it's definitely not contained to just the camera app. it's deeper inside the phone. Unfortunately, this just makes me even more sure that it's a hardware problem.
I think the crop of the picture makes a difference too. I have some examples to share...
This picture was taken with the HTC One camera in it's default camera mode. Not Zoe. You'll notice most of the issue is in the bottom right hand corner.
September 30, 2013 105807 PM EDT by one4thewings, on Flickr
HTC recommended I try third-party apps. Here is one I had gotten from Amazon. CameraZoom FX. You'll notice there is a bit of the blue discoloration in the bottom right.
September 30, 2013 105704 PM EDT by one4thewings, on Flickr
Now this third picture is back to using the HTC Camera.. however, I changed the crop to regular. It's a software setting in the non-Zoe mode. You'll notice that the blue is still there, but it's much less. Mostly, I would imagine, because the part that wants to discolor is off of the screen.
September 30, 2013 105851 PM EDT by one4thewings, on Flickr
Finally, here is a picture taken in Instagram. An even tighter crop and the discoloration is less noticable, but still there. And the out of focus thing is something I've been getting with this too.
September 30, 2013 110222 PM EDT by one4thewings, on Flickr
It's definitely not a situation in which a third party software will fix it. But neither did the 4.3 update if early reports are to be believed.
I know it may be a long shot but 4.3 may fix it. I was on a Droid3 and all of the user had a "blue" tint issue. This issue was visible not matter which Application was used to take pictures. I also part of both SOAK tests, and it is a little fuzzy at this point but one of the OTAs made huge improvements with this issue. It went away totally on my phone. So lets hope HTC can find a fix in the ROM code, and more importantly Verizon does not hold 4.3 hostage for 2 months of testing.
Might this be as simple as the plastic piece that covers the lens? Anyone have the balls to remove it to try?
It just seems odd that when I zoom in (even though the zoom is digital), the issue gets better..
So what do I do? Exchange phone for a new one?
thankfully for all of us on VZW, we're well within the warranty period so getting the phone replaced isn't really a hassle, especially if you go to the corporate store to get the replacement shipped. those guys work commission and will do whatever they need to do to get you out of the door, including sending your replacement without asking a lot of questions and asking you to reset the whole damn phone for nothing
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thankfully for all of us on VZW, we're well within the warranty period so getting the phone replaced isn't really a hassle, especially if you go to the corporate store to get the replacement shipped. those guys work commission and will do whatever they need to do to get you out of the door, including sending your replacement without asking a lot of questions and asking you to reset the whole damn phone for nothing
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unless you are already s-off from sonic, then it is a big hassle.
TidusWulf said:
Since HTC claims it's a software issue that will be fixed in v4.3
Here's with the HTC built in Camera (I didn't wait very long, but it quickly went from bad to worse once the photo was taken)
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...24dacf9/2/2/9/9/7/2/9/2013-10-03_07.39.30.jpg
And here's with the Google Camera apk (the photosphere capable one).
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...24dad38/2/2/9/9/7/3/0/2013-10-03_07.39.55.jpg
The problem persists (I waited longer, that's why it looks worse), so whatever "software" issue is going on, it's definitely not contained to just the camera app. it's deeper inside the phone. Unfortunately, this just makes me even more sure that it's a hardware problem.
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I posted yesterday in the forum where someone asked if the camera issue could be solved by heat that I posted a question to the sprint users that received 4.3 to see if the issue was corrected and they said no. It's a little better but still very noticeable. Booooo
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unless you are already s-off from sonic, then it is a big hassle.
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Yep. My phone is to be delivered back from Sonic with s-off so I'm stuck with it I guess. I was talking to a guy on here yesterday and he said when he sent his in to be repaired with s-off they charged him £160 to replace the whole board in the phone. F that. I'll just deal with it. We shouldn't have to, especially since htc had several months to correct the issue before our variant launched, but it is what it is. It blows.
I've been jumping through HTC's hoops. Doing the different tasks they've required of me to resolve my camera issues.... finally, I got this answer last night. And I am not amused.
HTC Support said:
In this case, I would like to recommend you to go ahead and for the meantime use the third party camera in order to take the pictures you desire. I understand this is an inconvenience with your device and this will not allow you to use to the fullest the camera application on your device.
Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience you have experienced and appreciate your patience as we work quickly to investigate this matter. In some instances, we may be able to deploy a software update to address an issue. We recommend you regularly check your device for updates and download them when available.
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I've been jumping through HTC's hoops. Doing the different tasks they've required of me to resolve my camera issues.... finally, I got this answer last night. And I am not amused.
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Well that's great HTC "support". Basically, "Okay we know there's an issue but don't know the cause and rather than us give you some definitive information on what we plan to do to remedy the problem... Just use another camera app. Bc we couldn't give 2 ****s. Thanks for contacting HTC!"
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Well that's great HTC "support". Basically, "Okay we know there's an issue but don't know the cause and rather than us give you some definitive information on what we plan to do to remedy the problem... Just use another camera app. Bc we couldn't give 2 ****s. Thanks for contacting HTC!"
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After a week of this back and forth I finally cracked and responded in a sarcastic manner.
So the fix for my faulty HTC One camera is to use a third-party software that still demonstrates the camera flaw - just to a lesser degree? Perhaps I am asking too much that my one month old phone be right when I purchase it but I'll play along. Could you please recommend a third-party camera application that features the ZOE software? The face swap is nice, I suppose, but it's unnecessary in my case. So pointing me toward an application that can performs ZOE functionality would be appreciated. An added bonus would be an app that auto-corrects the odd tinting issue, but I understand that one might be a pipe dream.
Your assistance is appreciated.
Signed, Me, the customer, the most important part of HTC.
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That last part, is something that they've included in all of their customer support emails.
"Remember you are the most important part of HTC and I want to thank you for your continuous support of our products and services."
one4thewings said:
After a week of this back and forth I finally cracked and responded in a sarcastic manner.
So the fix for my faulty HTC One camera is to use a third-party software that still demonstrates the camera flaw - just to a lesser degree? Perhaps I am asking too much that my one month old phone be right when I purchase it but I'll play along. Could you please recommend a third-party camera application that features the ZOE software? The face swap is nice, I suppose, but it's unnecessary in my case. So pointing me toward an application that can performs ZOE functionality would be appreciated. An added bonus would be an app that auto-corrects the odd tinting issue, but I understand that one might be a pipe dream.
Your assistance is appreciated.
Signed, Me, the customer, the most important part of HTC.
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That last part, is something that they've included in all of their customer support emails.
"Remember you are the most important part of HTC and I want to thank you for your continuous support of our products and services."
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Lol NICE ! :good:
If you talk to them again mention that based on a poll on XDA 85% of HTC One owners have this issue.
BreakingVZW said:
If you talk to them again mention that based on a poll on XDA 85% of HTC One owners have this issue.
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I should have looked at this before responding.
This was the latest I got from them:
The option to download a third party app for your camera was to check if you were able to use your camera, not the Zoe feature, without any issue while we work, develop, and deploy the software update to have the issue with your camera resolved. I understand you want to enjoy the full features of your HTC One, like for example Zoe, and that this issue is causing you an inconvenience which is not allowing you to do so and for that I would like to offer my sincere apologies.
I have noticed that as we continue down this road that my tech support guy, Alejandro, is growing less proficient with English. I guess we're moving away from the pre-designed conversation templates.
I replied with this.
So this is a known issue? And a solution is being developed to address the camera issues? I would like additional information about this please.
I'll toss your percentage into my next message, since I'm absolutely certain that we'll not have this resolved in the immediate future and I'm sure not clicking the "I am satisfied with my problem resolution and would like to close my ticket" link.
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I should have looked at this before responding.
This was the latest I got from them:
The option to download a third party app for your camera was to check if you were able to use your camera, not the Zoe feature, without any issue while we work, develop, and deploy the software update to have the issue with your camera resolved. I understand you want to enjoy the full features of your HTC One, like for example Zoe, and that this issue is causing you an inconvenience which is not allowing you to do so and for that I would like to offer my sincere apologies.
I have noticed that as we continue down this road that my tech support guy, Alejandro, is growing less proficient with English. I guess we're moving away from the pre-designed conversation templates.
I replied with this.
So this is a known issue? And a solution is being developed to address the camera issues? I would like additional information about this please.
I'll toss your percentage into my next message, since I'm absolutely certain that we'll not have this resolved in the immediate future and I'm sure not clicking the "I am satisfied with my problem resolution and would like to close my ticket" link.
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See the thing about their "while we work to resolve this issue with a software update" is... They didn't resolve it. The 4.3 update for sprint users didn't fix it. So I'll believe htc when we get the update and see it has, in fact, been resolved. I'm not holding my breath though.
I should have done what Sonic did and went back to verizon and had them bring out handset after handset until they got me one without the issue. I just don't have time to mess with Verizon in store for 79 hours. The average trip to verizon for me is roughly 2 hours bc I think some of their associates have severe learning disabilities. I had to show the lady how to do this upgrade on HER computer. She couldn't figure it out. It was ridiculous.
Yeah that's part of my concern too. how many dozens of mailed-warranty-replacements would I have to go thru until I get one that doesn't have the issue
What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?
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What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?
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Lol, why would you do that. HTC isn't stupid, they wouldn't put better camera in midranger than in flagship.
For my purpouses, camera is great. Night photos are the best. Daily are sometimes overexposed, but play a little with settings and they won't be. Pictures are good even on the monitor screen.
I would say chances are less than zero. Even if it was the same ribbon cable pinout, there's no way it's the same physical footprint so it wouldn't fit, and the software would have no idea how to talk to it. You have a better chance of your phone sprouting legs.
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What's the chances of installing the camera sensor from a Desire 816 or an M8 ultra to get a 13mp camera rather than the 4mp? They obviously work with sense 6, but will they fit?
Let's say it, would you be tempted?
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lol.... ¬¬ are you serious? impossible
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lol.... ¬¬ are you serious? impossible
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It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.
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It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.
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If this guy is asking for that it is impossible (st least for him/her, also don't know why we would want a worse camera on this device, not impossible for HTC but for us :/ easy
Desde HTC One M8
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It was once said to be impossible to split an atom... I don't know if you've ever check out some of the homebrew electronics sites & forums, but I have seen more unbelievably amazing things than soldering a cmos onto a board. While it may be highly impractical, improbable even, few things are impossible.
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You could solder a Subaru onto the side of the phone too, it doesn't mean it can drive. There's more to these things than a little fun with a soldering iron.
Given enough time, ambition, and access to the full source of everything involved (kernel, drivers), I'm sure it's POSSIBLE. But no one is going to do it -- that's the part that has zero percent chance of happening. For that amount of effort and time just buy a different phone that suits you better, or wait a year.
Crikey I'm not being funny but what's the big hang up with m8 camera, it's a phone for crying out loud? There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. It takes perfectly good photos. Really if you need a top notch camera go and buy one that is designed for the job.
It is still funny to me, how people think the bigger number is always better.
13 mediocre mega pixels vs 4 excellent mega pixels. I prefer a camera that can actually handle different lighting conditions like the M8. I had an S5 for 2 days before returning it. The camera wasn't that great. I prefer the M8 .
It is sad that ignorant people can stifle real innovation with such blind devotion to bigger numbers. That's why Samsung does so well, they keep hyping numbers in a cheap phone and people buy it.
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Impossible :good:
It's not impossible I've done it! ! I've also constructed a rocket and lunar lander from egg boxes and managed to fly to the moon and spend the night there. Just got back to see this post! I'll post some pictures I took with the modified m8 in a while, they're absolutely cracking! If anyone else wants the mod done on there m8 off a trip to the moon send me a check for £500 and some solder oh and some egg boxes.
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I have a 2 1/2 year old M7 that has the dreaded purple camera problems and a battery that is no longer good for a day of light use.
At this point is a M8 for around $280 a good buy or should I consider something else? I will not buy an Apple product and having the best cell phone camera is not a high priority. Clear calls and connections are the main concerns.
Thoughts and alternatives please.
No, wait for M10. Everyone who has M8 will upgrade to M10,we skip M9. Lol
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No, wait for M10. Everyone who has M8 will upgrade to M10,we skip M9. Lol
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Exact same here
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Exact same here
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Many seem to be planning to pass on the M10 because it is rumored to have lost the twin speaker boom sound?
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Many seem to be planning to pass on the M10 because it is rumored to have lost the twin speaker boom sound?
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Yeah, I just saw the leaked photos and renders, and was really disappointed to see that the front speakers seem to be gone. This is a big step backwards for smartphones in general IMO. Having speakers on the side (or worse, the back) is just horrible design; and HTC putting the speakers on the front where they belong was one of the main reasons I got the M8.
Still haven't decided whether I'll pick up the M10 or not, but the lack of front speakers will certainly be a factor.
Not sure if the M10 is a feasible option for the OP or not (everyone has different budget and other constraints). But if that is a possibility, I'd at least wait until the M10 is released and there are some reviews of it; before decided whether its a worthy upgrade or not.
Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
I too would like to know. However I am keeping mine as I have already traded in my iPhone 11 pro. I am just kinda stuck right now, and am just as frustrated that NO info is available for the snapdragon version. I am also unsure if my unlocked version will get it direct or if I will need to wait for it.
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Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
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Nobody has a crystal ball and return it if your unhappy.
We're just gonna have to wait it out. Samsung is SLOW with their updates.
April update.
I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Anyone have a timeline on when Samsung is going to fix their crap auto focus on the s20 Ultra? I have a 512gb which is out of stock everywhere but I don't want to be stuck with this garbage auto focus as I bought the phone for the camera and it's really bad like fix it or recall it bad. My guess is they will release something after the 15 days and it won't fix it and I will be stuck with garbage but whatever hopefully I get a high value on their fixed phone for trade in.
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It can be made better to where it works really well in daytime brightness. But will never be very good in low light. Most likely Manual Focus will be needed for very low light situations. That is because the S20 and s20+ use Dual Pixel Auto Focus (DPAF) and the Ultra uses a Phase Detection Auto Focus (PDAF) which is good for fast auto focusing in bright situations like daytime but terrible in low light.
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I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Shot suggestion was off by default on mine and I disabled scene optimizer as well.
Better question is why aren't the android sites or blogs picking up the auto focus/ camera story? Maybe a little more exposure will hurry Samsung to fix due to bad press.
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Better question is why aren't the android sites or blogs picking up the auto focus/ camera story? Maybe a little more exposure will hurry Samsung to fix due to bad press.
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I got Banned for pushing the issue in Samsung community. They obviously don't like the bad press.
Apparently Samsung has released a fix for Exynos variant https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-s20-firmware-update-rolling-out-fix-camera-autofocus/
The only early review I saw that mentioned it was MKBHD and by that time my phone was already in transit heading to me.
Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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Tell us how you really feel....Nobody forced you to buy it and why didnt you return it within the 15 days then?
Man, have some patience. This is a minor issue which only affects a small amount of people. Relax.
There is going to be an update in the next few days. https://www.androidcentral.com/late...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
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Man, have some patience. This is a minor issue which only affects a small amount of people. Relax.
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Seems to me it's pretty much across the board, not just on a small amount of people.
I cancelled an Ultra 512GB due to the many problems discussed in multiple places about the phone. If they ever fix it, I'll reconsider a purchase; but it has to be fixed first.
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There is going to be an update in the next few days. https://www.androidcentral.com/late...errer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
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But not yet for the Qualcomm phones.
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Seems to me it's pretty much across the board, not just on a small amount of people.
I cancelled an Ultra 512GB due to the many problems discussed in multiple places about the phone. If they ever fix it, I'll reconsider a purchase; but it has to be fixed first.
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But not yet for the Qualcomm phones.
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It's not across the board. Not a single person I know (including myself) who bought the phone is having the issues. Just a select few online.
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I've found a sort of fix . (For me anyway) I noticed when I was doing the hand swipe focus test (moving hand in front of sensor... Then moving when focuses and repeating).. and I noticed it was struggling until the little grey circle turned yellow from the "Shot Suggestion" feature... It looks like the phone is prioritizing getting a "good shot" to focusing... When I turned it off my focus sped up and seems to work instantly 99.5% of the time... Let me know if this works for any of you... Also I didn't read through the post so I don't know if this was posted or not.
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Am so disappointed with Samsung i always buy the Galaxy/Note phone yearly and am doubtful i will continue.how can Samsung release such a god damn camera this horrible?? I have literally taken 0 good photos with this piece of **** phone. Every god damn photo I take seems like it was take with a phone from 15years ago. Am surprised no one has sued the crap out of them most people have already used up the 15 days return period or traded in an phone for credit and are stuck with this 1.4k piece of crap phone with no concrete info if or when it will be fixed.
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It's not across the board. Not a single person I know (including myself) who bought the phone is having the issues. Just a select few online.
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Thta's not accurate, the auto-focus is unusable on anything close.
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Thta's not accurate, the auto-focus is unusable on anything close.
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Maybe for you. It's fine for me and everyone I know with Snapdragon. My point isn't that it's not happening. It's that it's not happening to the majority of people and even if it was, it's not something that would be considered high priority.
XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."
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XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."
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I think people are going over the top a bit, the camera does not take x-ray pics, and perverts will not be able to use it for that intention.
I highly doubt that OnePlus will remove the use of the camera because of the ability to see through specific types of plastic, the supposed see through clothes is more bullsh** , only very sheer and thin fabrics can be seen through and it has to be tight for you to even see anything.
But worst case scenario and OP do remove the use of the camera then they will either have a lawsuit against them or someone will open the use of the camera again with root.
omg seriously...
ITS NOT A DAMN X RAY!
You cannot see people naked by using the filter camera.
People need to grow up
the op 8 pro color filter will be disabled in a future update because social media hyped it up like it was a true x-ray magic camera when this is completely wrong.
I want to know what the official stand of OnePlus is on this matter because if that fourth camera sensor gets completely disabled we are losing actual hardware functionally that we paid for, it's like disabling half of the ram and storage space after you sell the phone, yes I know it's not an important feature for most people, but still it's part of the hardware of the phone and part of the price.....
What is next , disabling the zoom of the s20 ultra because you can spy on people from far away? You understand that this is completely ridiculous.
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the op 8 pro color filter will be disabled in a future update because social media hyped it up like it was a true x-ray magic camera when this is completely wrong.
I want to know what the official stand of OnePlus is on this matter because if that fourth camera sensor gets completely disabled we are losing actual hardware functionally that we paid for, it's like disabling half of the ram and storage space after you sell the phone, yes I know it's not an important feature for most people, but still it's part of the hardware of the phone and part of the price.....
What is next , disabling the zoom of the s20 ultra because you can spy on people from far away? You understand that this is completely ridiculous.
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https://m.weibo.cn/status/J2z9UgzY7?type=comment&jumpfrom=weibocom
This seems kinda official. Im not sure if this will be for the Asian markets only, but I don't think so.
In any case, this is ridiculous. This is not the Sony camera from the late 1990s.
Yep, that's really ridiculous and hard to understand that OP is really disabling this....
Also I'm not sure what this time limited disabling should do, either I have that camera or not...
BTW infrared photography is a well known subject in photo enthusiast communities and without any slippery context whatsoever - so why the fuss at all?! ....
In the end this is sad news for me, I actually liked the infrared look in photos and the fact that my OP8P could do it....
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Yep, that's really ridiculous and hard to understand that OP is really disabling this....
Also I'm not sure what this time limited disabling should do, either I have that camera or not...
BTW infrared photography is a well known subject in photo enthusiast communities and without any slippery context whatsoever - so why the fuss at all?! ....
In the end this is sad news for me, I actually liked the infrared look in photos and the fact that my OP8P could do it....
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yeah exactly ,and if oneplus do this then everyone has a reason and right to ask for a refund !
Oneplus reacted with a statement, seems as if the camera is going to stay on OOS at least....
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Oneplus reacted with a statement, seems as if the camera is going to stay on OOS at least....
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It still worries me with the "limiting functionality" bit.
They're only doing this in China from what I have heard. Maybe the chinese government would've stepped in (wouldn't be a surprise at least)
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XDA and other reporting one plus will disable the colour filter mode via a update .
I did this video over a week ago before it was widely reported ,since then just about every tech site picked up on this feature with lots of videos showing it .
XDA saying the will have to disable one of the cameras to remove it fully .
If this is correct then surely we have been sold a phone under false pretences
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...gh-camera-temporarily-disabled-future-update/
"We do appreciate the company addressing these concerns. But, in the same conversation, this also entirely disables the functionality of the color filter camera, which is a hardware component that users are paying for, downgrading the OnePlus 8 Pro from a “quad-camera phone” to a “triple-camera phone” while still burdening it with dead weight in terms of component and cost. OnePlus should have been careful with the features it chooses to integrate into its phones, especially if it requires additional specialized hardware."
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Hey OP, I saw your video on XDA and then I tweeted about it...which led to it circulating heavily among blogs/YouTubers. That's probably where all the views came from, lol. Never expected this issue to blow up like it did!
Is possible to downgrade to have the feature back if I buy a phone with Photochrom feature already disabled?
This is only happening on HydrogenOS (OnePlus phones in China), and they do plan to bring it back as soon as they can figure out how to deal with the issues. So its only temporary.
It should also be known that by disabling this, if you are using HydrogenOS, this will only disable the Photochrom filter since its the only filter that uses that camera.
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This is only happening on HydrogenOS (OnePlus phones in China), and they do plan to bring it back as soon as they can figure out how to deal with the issues. So its only temporary.
It should also be known that by disabling this, if you are using HydrogenOS, this will only disable the Photochrom filter since its the only filter that uses that camera.
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What is temporary exactly, that it remains available or the disablement when gets updated?
MishaalRahman said:
Hey OP, I saw your video on XDA and then I tweeted about it...which led to it circulating heavily among blogs/YouTubers. That's probably where all the views came from, lol. Never expected this issue to blow up like it did!
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Yeah I wondered why I suddenly jumped from about 10 views to thousands in no time ,checked that stats on YT studio and it was being viewed from all over a lot quoting your tweets .If only I was monetized ??
i just am lost for words at the stupidity of people..
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Yeah I wondered why I suddenly jumped from about 10 views to thousands in no time ,checked that stats on YT studio and it was being viewed from all over a lot quoting your tweets .If only I was monetized ??
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You can still do lots of videos about it. How to preserve Oxygen OS version, how to downgrade, how to enable back after update...
Well .. I for one am not taking that kind of update if it does come to Oxygen...
Or we will all get a real photochrome camera and start posting pics of us all looking through "BLACK PLASTIC"
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Well .. I for one am not taking that kind of update if it does come to Oxygen...
Or we will all get a real photochrome camera and start posting pics of us all looking through "BLACK PLASTIC"
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I guess it will depend if the update is just the camera.apk or the entire system.
I'm from China and i got a close communication with some of the developers in oneplus. It's really ridiculous that some of the people via media spread the news that the color filter works like an X-ray. Also a lot of female got afraid of it in weibo which I consider nonsense. Most of the oneplus users in China also got shocked and a bit annoyed. However, the filter would not be removed in oxygen OS according to some news. And in Chinese forum, one of the administer says the filter will be reproduced and likely to come back in June.