[Q] New to ROMs and all that jazz. Help a guy out? - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all,
So as it says in the title, I'm new to custom ROMs, kernels and all of that stuff. I've had my G3 since it came out, and with the G4 around the corner, I thought it couldn't hurt to start experimenting a bit with my G3 and see what more I can get out of it.
I've been on LGs stock ROMs since I got the phone, I've been too scared of bricking it or voiding the warranty to try flashing a custom ROM. But, digging around the dev section for the G3, I'm seeing all these custom ROMs and how well they're improving peoples performance, and I figured I might as well ask how to go out switching to one.
I had an old Google Nexus S (Yes, I know VERY old) that I had running stock with a custom kernel, but I only used that to toy around with. My G3 is my phone, it's my daily driver I use it for everything from my Music to communication, social networking, gaming, pretty much everything. But lately, a few factors have been driving me closer to wanting a different experience, namely:
- I seem to only have around 1.1GB of RAM free (I'm on the 3GB/32GB D855 Variant) after booting up, and after a few hours I get down to around 600MB free. This isn't ideal, and lag is a player after I open a few apps up. I'd like to get rid of the bloatware that comes with the phone that I can't force-close in the task manager.
- Battery life (Yes I know it's a QHD screen but still, I'm seeing people doubling their SOT with custom ROMs, and I'd like to be one of them!)
- General performance (The stock ROM is only so good)
- A few niggles I have with the stock ROM, just things I find personally annoying.
Now, basically what I want to know is the following:
- What's a good ROM to start off with and try on my device? I've heard good things about BlissPop v2.2, CloudyG3 2.2, ChupaChups ROM, and a few others but they're the main ones I'm interested in. I'd prefer a ROM that comes without all the bloatware on the phone, as I don't want to root to have to do this myself if possible.
- Do I have to root to do this? I'd MUCH prefer to not have to root my phone myself (even though I'm aware there's some good tweaks for the phone that lengthen battery life etc. but one step at a time, lets just start with a custom ROM) but I'm unaware if I need to root to install a custom kernel or ROM if it's needed for the phone (The Nexus S was given to me from a friend who'd already rooted it, I just wiped it and played around with it). If there's a ROM that requires root but can do it itself on install, that would work for me. (CloudyG3 has something like this I believe)
- How easy is it to keep the ROM/ROMs up to date? Is it like updating the stock ROM? Can I do it just by downloading the new version of the ROM and flashing it to the phone without having it wipe all my data (Like you do when updating the stock rom (From like V20A - V20B) Or do some ROMs have a built-in update feature ( think ChupaChups ROM has a built-in OTA update feature)?
- Is there any chance of me bricking my device and it being unrecoverable if I do this?
- Is there a guide to how to move from the Stock ROM to a Custom ROM somewhere here on the forums, or is it specific for each ROM? Mainly for the reason above, I want to avoid making my phone unusable so I want a good, solid guide if they're available.
- When I sell my phone in the future, am I able to restore the stock ROM and Kernel? Mainly worried about the kernel here, I know I can just factory reset and flash the stock ROM but not sure how I'd go about flashing the original kernel. If I could completely backup the original kernel and everything and then save that to my computer for later on, that would work well, I've saved backups of all my .kdz's for each ROM version.
- Is there a complete guide for backing up everything that is stock on the phone (ROM, Kernel, Userdata, etc.) and then starting over from scratch (Like a step-by-step process)
- *Optional* Does anyone know if I could restore my app data from the stock ROMs built-in backup tool in settings to the custom ROM if it supports it?
So that should be pretty much it, I'm really just looking to move to something more from my phone, and there's some good options out there, I'm just concerned regarding the things above. A huge thank you to anyone that's able to offer me help, you'll be doing me a HUGE favour. I don't think I'll be able to afford the G4 when it comes out I'm looking to get everything I can out of my G3.
Thanks!

I can't take the time for all the answers, but to get you started, look for the LG one click root thread in one of these sections.
Sent from my VK810 4G

Some guides >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-thread-lg-g3-question-t2947298 <<

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[Q] kernels and data/settings

Hello i've got several questions i'm hoping can be answered...
Its been a long time since i've flashed a phone (back when HTC Diamond came out)
It was great and fun and cool but i got really tired of it really fast especially having to redo/redownload/and reupload settings apps and mods every time the developer came out with a new update for the ROM...
I have stock 2.2 froyo unrooted (still gathering info) and i am SICK of the fps cap... i feel this phone can do so much more than what my previous device (the palm pre) could. I would flash but i've read of several popular ROMs having issues with cameras, 4g, and other stuff that i'd want to keep.
So i was wondering if i did root and install one of the kernels i've read about will it fully delete all my settings and apps like flashing a ROM would? or would it be more like my palm pre in which it was more of an update and it could be safely removed if needed?
thank you for your time
mmmtacos said:
Hello i've got several questions i'm hoping can be answered...
Its been a long time since i've flashed a phone (back when HTC Diamond came out)
It was great and fun and cool but i got really tired of it really fast especially having to redo/redownload/and reupload settings apps and mods every time the developer came out with a new update for the ROM...
I have stock 2.2 froyo unrooted (still gathering info) and i am SICK of the fps cap... i feel this phone can do so much more than what my previous device (the palm pre) could. I would flash but i've read of several popular ROMs having issues with cameras, 4g, and other stuff that i'd want to keep.
So i was wondering if i did root and install one of the kernels i've read about will it fully delete all my settings and apps like flashing a ROM would? or would it be more like my palm pre in which it was more of an update and it could be safely removed if needed?
thank you for your time
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The beauty of android is you can do a nandroid of any particular rom that you like and then load another one up and it wont affect your rom that you have saved. Coming from a Diamond as well this is a great feature. Now flashing a kernel is simply that, you can flash a kernel if you dont like it flash the stock kernel back again or just flash another kernel if you prefer.
I personally use Kings Kernels and they have not given me any issues with cameras or 4g. Most of the kernels today have fixed all of the earlier issues like that.
Also there are programs to get you back up in running in minutes... look into Titanium backup or MyBackup Pro both will back up all of your software or home screens for you and put everything back the way you had it.

Novice lost with too many options

Hey, I'm a novice when it comes to phones but I've been talking with a friend about rooting my phone and I want to do it now.
HTC Desire Z (Non Branded)
Android 2.2.1
Build Number: 1.72.405.2 CL296256 release-keys
He gave me the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
and said to ask on here, if that is the right guide to follow and well I have no idea what ROM's are ideal for me, there are too many roms to choose from and because there is a load of jargon what quite frankly confuses the hell out of me.
I just kinda want a rooted one with less junk and more options (like the rooted apps to install) maybe? I'm a lost puppy
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I don't know how I can thank you if you can help me
Use the wiki to get root and the added extras (subsidy unlock),... then you'll be good to go flashing ROMs.
As for which ROM, I recommend Cyanogen 6. 1 for stability . But as a new user I do think you should try a sense ROM for a while.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Just root your phone and then you will be able to install apps that require root, and you can remove apps you don't want.
Stay on the stock ROM then you can get used to it, and you'll be in a better position to learn which custom ROM might suit you.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
My recommendation is CyanogenMod (6.1.1 for stability, as suggested above).
I have been using CyanogenMod since the G1 (two years ago) and haven't looked back. The development team is constantly striving to improve, and add features. The thing is rock solid stable, and has MANY MANY more options and goodies then stock rom.
Use that wiki to get you Rooted, then head over to the Cyanogen Wiki (link in my signature) to get his rom, and instructions on how to install it.
The HARDEST part, will be the physical rooting of your phone. After you have rooted, the SIMPLEST thing to do is to download "ROM Manager" from the android market. Use it to install the Clockwork Recovery (VERY EASY, all done through the app). Once you are rooted and have a custom recovery, popping on a Rom is a piece of cake.
The very FIRST thing you should do after rooting and getting a custom recovery, is to BACKUP (usually referred to as nandroid backup). This will make COMPLETE backup of your phone, as it is now (boot/system/apps/contacts, etc etc, EVERYTHING). Then if during the process of putting on a rom or mod, something messes up, you can always restore your backup. Make this a COMMON practice.
If you do decide to go with Cyanogen, some things to remember. One is to get the "gapps" package, so you will have your market, and gmail, etc etc.... That step is included in the instructions on the wiki, so you shouldn't miss it. Just install gapps, after Cyanogen.
Now, if after all that, you feel confident (and by this point you probably should), you could look at getting a OC/UV (overclocked/undervolted) kernel. This is also done with ROM manager, and is VERY easy. Id suggest using pershoots kernel, for CM 6.1.1 (froyo)..... This will not only improve the performance of your phone (with the app SetCPU), but will also save battery life.
It may sound like a lot, and maybe it is, but again, once you get past the Rooting, and flashing a custom recovery (most common is Clockwork), the rest is a piece of cake, comparatively.
Is it worth all that hassle you may ask? YES, DEFINITELY. Once you get used to CyanogenMod (or whichever mod you choose), you will have a hard time ever going back to a stock rom. When i purchased and received my G2 (US version of the Desire Z), i literally had it out of the box, booted up for 5 minutes to login, shutdown, and began rooting it. I simply HAD to have my Cyanogen.
If you just want a rooted one with less junk and the option to install rooted apps, maybe you should just root your phone but continue using the stock ROM? You can still get a great deal of customization on stock just by using market apps like launcher replacements, root explorers, tasker..
I'd suggest watching videos of the ROMs on youtube so you know what to expect from each. Personally i'm using Virtuous ROM but that's because i like the look and feel and added functionality of HTC Sense (camera, facebook tagging, dlna, etc).

Bumping?

Hi everyone.
I'm a bit confusing after reading a lot of threads in LG G3 about bumping... I've tried to make my mind, but can't understand properly how that works, coming to a LG G3 from a Nexus 4 (who has suddenly died after a fall), and a couple of Samsung tablets, where I had just to install a custom recovery to flash new roms/kernels, root, nandroid, etc.
Is this different in LG phones?
I've saw a thread with a bumped TWRP, and another one that seems to give instructions to install usual TWRP. There are roms/kernels that seem to be bumped an other ones that say nothing about that...
Can't be just flashed a recovery on a rooted phone and then used to flash anything else?
Bumped TWRP admits just bumped rom/kernels?
Usual TWRP admits bumped rom/kernels or just non-bumped ones?
Which are the advantages/risks of using a bumped or not TWRP?
I'm really lost about all that that seems to be just LG related...
And another set of questions (that will be more a question of preferences, though...):
I like to have my phone set to my taste. I can see 3 options. I would like to know, not so much which one is better (each one will say the option he's using, as logical), but which are the advantages/risks/problems with any of them in this concrete phone:
a) Using stock (rooted, with a custom kernel -which one?-, and with the xposed LG G3 set of options).
b) An AOSP derived ROM (non CM... there are few, it seems), with quick circle module, and any camera that improves AOSP one. And a kernel if that improves the one in the ROM
c) A CM based ROM (seem to be more of that) with same additions.
After some reading, I see many people complaining that the nice camera in this phone is only working fine in stock. But I don't know if that's really so much worse as to stick on stock, even if xposed enables a lot of customization... When I want serious photos, I use my DSLR... so I just want the camera to behave nice, and do a good work when I'm just doing occasional photo. But I don't want a nearly broken camera, of course...
On the other side, AOSP based ROM's seem to be, not only more clean and customizable, but better in battery management (and less overheating). But some people says CM based ones are no so much so... Don't know what to think about that.
And I'm not sure how the quick circle mod is working on AOSP or CM ROMs (I have an original case, so, it would be nice to use it...)
Sorry for so many questions, but I have the feeling that LG is a bit "another world" from Nexus (freedom......) or Samsung, where everything is like just flash and go...
And thanks everyone reading this!
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Hi,
It is not that complicated.
First part. Root the phone and then install TWRP. There are few threads about how to do it.
Second part. Stock based roms work fine. AOSP based roms are smoother but camera quality and battery performance are worse. Depends on what you need.
Regards
Sent from my phone
So, bumping question is nothing to think about? That's good news, then is just setting TWRP and done, like any other device. Thanks for that!
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nachordez said:
So, bumping question is nothing to think about? That's good news, then is just setting TWRP and done, like any other device. Thanks for that!
from SM-T520
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Yes, for the most part, as all of the custom/aftermarket recovery images and ROMs are already 'bumped', and 'bumping', in the context of LG smartphone and tablets, is simply appending a signature key to make sure that the bootloader gives the custom recovery/ROM package the approval to be installed.
You ONLY need to 'bump' an image if the image you want to install has not been signed, which is rare as like I said, almost all of the custom recovery/ROM images are 'bumped', and if you do come across a situation that requires you to 'bump' an image, there's an offline tool that works on Microsoft Windows that is simply called 'Bump!!!', which can sign, or 'bump' an unsigned image and it only takes a few seconds to do that as it is easy to do.
As for setting up your LG device, in the case of the LG G3, root your phone first - rooting an LG device on the stock Lollipop ROM can be done with this script:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197
After you have rooted your phone, Install AutoRec for your LG device and remember to choose the version that matches your phone model number (e.g. LG G3 D855) - this will Install the TeamWin Recovery Project recovery image onto your phone.
Once that is done, you can now choose a ROM that you want to install - most ROMs obviously come in flashable ZIP form, so pick your poison and Install via recovery mode - most people love the certain blue poison that is Cyanogenmod but others may try CloudyG3, which is an LG ROM-based custom ROM - like ypsmav said, it depends what features you are after the most - if you prioritise unlimited tethering and Miracast over other features, choose CyanogenMod or any other AOSP-based custom ROM, or if you prioritise camera quality and vendor-exclusive features over other features, then choose Cloudy ROM or any other vendor-based custom ROM.
Have fun!
Thanks for your time and counsels, @aha360 and @ypsmav
Now, I know what we are talking about
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from Nexus 4
I'm still unable to update from TWRP 2.8.6.0 to anything newer - I have an Lg G3 F400K on Android 5.0, stock rooted. I was able to use AutoRec to flash TWRP 2.8.6.0, but then flashing 3.0.2.0 gives me the 'secure boot' error when trying to boot into recovery. I've tried:
1) flashing through TWRP
2) Rashr
3) Flashify
Any further ideas? Will it work if I change roms? Is it related to the SD card? (I saw something on this thread which I didn't quite understand)

LG G3 from FreedomPop, marshmallow or rom?

So i bought a FreedomPop LG G3 on sale and i ended up activating it to FreedomPop and i rooted it, and im wondering if i can install Marshmallow or cygn on it, my concern is.. before i bought the LG G3 i had a first Gen MOTO G from TextNow with there own unique ROM and when i installed lollipop on it, since the phone has no sim card the phone lost connection to TextNow and was basically useless outside the house so i had to ask TextNow to send me their unique Rom which they did and after installing it everything came back to normal.
now my lg g3 has a sim card slot, and came with sprint apps on it and showing sprint on lockscreen and everything. calls can be made from the android call app but texts messages are only available through FreedomPop text app.
i asked FreedomPop to unlock my phone and they said no problem doing it for me but i ended up not doing it since i do want to stay with them but then i want a different ROM.
so my questions are:
1.is there a way to backup an stock rom that came with the device so i can restore it just like i did on my TextNow incase i lose connection like before?
2.is there a way to backup FreedomPop like apps and restore it after changing the rom? will they work after installing them?
3.should i install a different rom?
4.anyone had an experience with such "locked" phones or even FreedomPop phone and can tell me how did it work for him?
shayo said:
So i bought a FreedomPop LG G3 on sale and i ended up activating it to FreedomPop and i rooted it, and im wondering if i can install Marshmallow or cygn on it, my concern is.. before i bought the LG G3 i had a first Gen MOTO G from TextNow with there own unique ROM and when i installed lollipop on it, since the phone has no sim card the phone lost connection to TextNow and was basically useless outside the house so i had to ask TextNow to send me their unique Rom which they did and after installing it everything came back to normal.
now my lg g3 has a sim card slot, and came with sprint apps on it and showing sprint on lockscreen and everything. calls can be made from the android call app but texts messages are only available through FreedomPop text app.
i asked FreedomPop to unlock my phone and they said no problem doing it for me but i ended up not doing it since i do want to stay with them but then i want a different ROM.
so my questions are:
1.is there a way to backup an stock rom that came with the device so i can restore it just like i did on my TextNow incase i lose connection like before?
2.is there a way to backup FreedomPop like apps and restore it after changing the rom? will they work after installing them?
3.should i install a different rom?
4.anyone had an experience with such "locked" phones or even FreedomPop phone and can tell me how did it work for him?
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If it has sprint apps it is probably an ls990; check in "about phone" settings to make sure. So basically follow the ls990 thread(s) to see how to get recovery on it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3 . Since you have root already installing a recovery should be a simple process via flashify or autorec apps - but you need to absolutely make sure you install the correct recovery file with the bump exploit or you may softbrick and have to restore with a PC. (bump is an lg g3 exploit needed for our device as we don't have a true bootloader unlock)
Re #1: if/when you put TWRP recovery on your phone you can make a backup of your freedompop stock ROM so you can restore it if you need to.
Re #2: since you're rooted you can backup all of your apps and their data with titanium or something similar. I use titanium pro because it allows you to make a zip file you can flash in TWRP while flashing your ROM, gapps, etc. & it restores your app data too; super convenient time saver. As far as will the freedompop apps work on a different ROM - they should; trying to restore them and see if they work might be the best way to go there. As long as you have a ROM backup you can restore - why not give em a try?
Re #3: that's subjective and up to you. Some people prefer stock features(especially the camera) and some xposed mods to get some extra tweaks, some people prefer custom ROMs with tons of features and the newest Android version. Again, that's on you to decide. BTW, if you do go custom ROM there are decent camera ports available that come close to stock quality.
Re #4: I have not, but I'm guessing you may need to take note of your APN settings before you change ROMs as they may be unique to freedompop & could mess up your data/text if they are not set right. That seems to be the biggest issue with people using different carriers.
Good luck & hope you enjoy your G3
LS990ZVC
Hey and thanks for your reply, yes my phone is the ls990ZVC (by the way on phone settings under brand it says "sprint" and not FreedomPop)
Q1.what do you mean by get recovery? you mean a costume recovery program on the devices main boot in-case of a problem that will replace the original recovering stock program?
Q#1. the thread you posted is for unlocking the phone? what benefits do i get from it? will i lose the 4G LTE speed like it says on the thread if i do it?
Q#2.i dont care much about camera features and also not looking for a lot of tweaks all i look for is to keep my ram and cpu power low and there for available at all time so basically having the phone act and react as fast as possible. can i achieve that with one of the different roms or having stock marshmallow installed?
Q#3. where do i get my APN settings?
Q#4. I think i know the answer to this but ill ask anyway, having TWRP recovery can save my device from softbrick right?
startswithPendswithOOH said:
If it has sprint apps it is probably an ls990; check in "about phone" settings to make sure. So basically follow the ls990 thread(s) to see how to get recovery on it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3 . Since you have root already installing a recovery should be a simple process via flashify or autorec apps - but you need to absolutely make sure you install the correct recovery file with the bump exploit or you may softbrick and have to restore with a PC. (bump is an lg g3 exploit needed for our device as we don't have a true bootloader unlock)
Re #1: if/when you put TWRP recovery on your phone you can make a backup of your freedompop stock ROM so you can restore it if you need to.
Re #2: since you're rooted you can backup all of your apps and their data with titanium or something similar. I use titanium pro because it allows you to make a zip file you can flash in TWRP while flashing your ROM, gapps, etc. & it restores your app data too; super convenient time saver. As far as will the freedompop apps work on a different ROM - they should; trying to restore them and see if they work might be the best way to go there. As long as you have a ROM backup you can restore - why not give em a try?
Re #3: that's subjective and up to you. Some people prefer stock features(especially the camera) and some xposed mods to get some extra tweaks, some people prefer custom ROMs with tons of features and the newest Android version. Again, that's on you to decide. BTW, if you do go custom ROM there are decent camera ports available that come close to stock quality.
Re #4: I have not, but I'm guessing you may need to take note of your APN settings before you change ROMs as they may be unique to freedompop & could mess up your data/text if they are not set right. That seems to be the biggest issue with people using different carriers.
Good luck & hope you enjoy your G3
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shayo said:
Hey and thanks for your reply, yes my phone is the ls990ZVC (by the way on phone settings under brand it says "sprint" and not FreedomPop)
Q1.what do you mean by get recovery? you mean a costume recovery program on the devices main boot in-case of a problem that will replace the original recovering stock program?
Q#1. the thread you posted is for unlocking the phone? what benefits do i get from it? will i lose the 4G LTE speed like it says on the thread if i do it?
Q#2.i dont care much about camera features and also not looking for a lot of tweaks all i look for is to keep my ram and cpu power low and there for available at all time so basically having the phone act and react as fast as possible. can i achieve that with one of the different roms or having stock marshmallow installed?
Q#3. where do i get my APN settings?
Q#4. I think i know the answer to this but ill ask anyway, having TWRP recovery can save my device from softbrick right?
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Hey...sorry I missed the notification that you responded...my bad.
Recovery - TWRP recovery which allows you to backup your current ROM, wipe your device, and install ROMs. You have to have it installed if you want to run any custom ROMs. It is imperative that you use the correct file or you may bork all your software, softbrick, and re-flash on a PC. If you are unsure on how to install TWRP then read, read & ask questions in the appropriate forums - & watch youtube videos if you need guidance on how to install it.
The link I posted was for your device. You can search in the threads for anything from ROMs, TWRP, root, kernels, and troubleshooting if you get stuck.
Stock marshmallow is pretty quick & there are some pure AOSP or basic CM builds available that may suit your needs...just have to sample for yourself to see what's best.
APN settings: settings, cellular networks, access point names; if you see a feedompop apn(or anything that isn't sprint) write down the fields, or take a screenshot and email it to yourself for reference.
Having TWRP recovery saves you from your mistakes. Once you get it installed you can make backups that you can always restore if you experiment with new ROMs or tweaks, etc. It is the backbone of flashing and modifying your phone.
Again, sorry for leaving you hanging. I'll pay closer attention to my notifications in the future
startswithPendswithOOH said:
Hey...sorry I missed the notification that you responded...my bad.
Recovery - TWRP recovery which allows you to backup your current ROM, wipe your device, and install ROMs. You have to have it installed if you want to run any custom ROMs. It is imperative that you use the correct file or you may bork all your software, softbrick, and re-flash on a PC. If you are unsure on how to install TWRP then read, read & ask questions in the appropriate forums - & watch youtube videos if you need guidance on how to install it.
The link I posted was for your device. You can search in the threads for anything from ROMs, TWRP, root, kernels, and troubleshooting if you get stuck.
Stock marshmallow is pretty quick & there are some pure AOSP or basic CM builds available that may suit your needs...just have to sample for yourself to see what's best.
APN settings: settings, cellular networks, access point names; if you see a feedompop apn(or anything that isn't sprint) write down the fields, or take a screenshot and email it to yourself for reference.
Having TWRP recovery saves you from your mistakes. Once you get it installed you can make backups that you can always restore if you experiment with new ROMs or tweaks, etc. It is the backbone of flashing and modifying your phone.
Again, sorry for leaving you hanging. I'll pay closer attention to my notifications in the future
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So i went with liquid smooth rom and after having some issues with titanium backup restoring apps i tried a few things and ended up having all system apps crashing on boot (dialer etc...) so i restored back to stock rom and everything works fine but now when i wanted to go back to liquid smooth TWRP says i cant and that the install files might be incomplete, actually it says that way about gapps too.. why is that? also having the problems i just mentioned with the rom, does that mean the rom is not stable.. or it is something i did? should i even try going back to that rom? i mean i kind of liked it in the 2 hours i got to test it before everything crashed. i went throught the link you sent me and eventually figured out that there is a rom section on top of the page where i can actually see the roms which i didnt realize that before, seems like restoring function on TWRP works great but i wish there was a way to just know which rom would work best for my phone in terms of performance which is what im looking for.
shayo said:
So i went with liquid smooth rom and after having some issues with titanium backup restoring apps i tried a few things and ended up having all system apps crashing on boot (dialer etc...) so i restored back to stock rom and everything works fine but now when i wanted to go back to liquid smooth TWRP says i cant and that the install files might be incomplete, actually it says that way about gapps too.. why is that? also having the problems i just mentioned with the rom, does that mean the rom is not stable.. or it is something i did? should i even try going back to that rom? i mean i kind of liked it in the 2 hours i got to test it before everything crashed. i went throught the link you sent me and eventually figured out that there is a rom section on top of the page where i can actually see the roms which i didnt realize that before, seems like restoring function on TWRP works great but i wish there was a way to just know which rom would work best for my phone in terms of performance which is what im looking for.
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ended up having all system apps crashing on boot
My guess is maybe you included system apps in your titanium backup? They are the ones listed in red; you don't want to include any system apps in your app restore/update.zip because they may be incompatible with the ROM you are flashing. So unless you read in the liquid smooth thread of other users having issues, I would doubt the ROM itself caused things to crash.
As far as the TWRP error about incomplete files...I'm not quite sure what that means. But you can take a screenshot while in TWRP(vol down + power) and post it up here to better explain the issue.
If you want to try liquid again try a fresh download of the ROM and fresh download of gapps(make sure you're downloading the correct gapps - LP & MM use different ones). If you run into problems with crashes again, try and flash just the ROM by itself to help determine if the errors are caused by the ROM or the gapps you're using.
I like liquid smooth...used to use it on my galaxy nexus back in the day. There are lots of good ones out there, itjust depends what you like. I usually use Tesla(aosp), but aokp and turbo are both really nice too. If you prefer CM based ROMs there are a ton of them too. Pick your poison.
So to clarify: it sounds like you did everything right - except don't restore system apps with titanium, make sure your gapps are compatible with your ROM, and have fun flashing

Could I get advice on a Rom to flash please

Ok so I have a HTC ONE M8, it says it has Android 6 and Sense 7 and I am in UK.
I have unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP 3.2.3-0 (and backed up) and Rooted with SuperSU 2.82
So all I need is a rom...
I have been looking for hours trying to decide which rom to try but I am at a loss.
My needs are simple...
1. The newest version of android I can get (just to annoy my dad)
2. I must be able to blacklist calls and texts (without needing an app)
3. No bloatware, I don't want my phone doing anything unless I want it to.
4. Things like blinkfeed are totally not wanted.
5. I am not even sure what sense is, I am pretty sure I don't use it
That will do it, thank you for looking. Suggestions?
alphalvr said:
Ok so I have a HTC ONE M8, it says it has Android 6 and Sense 7 and I am in UK.
I have unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP 3.2.3-0 (and backed up) and Rooted with SuperSU 2.82
So all I need is a rom...
I have been looking for hours trying to decide which rom to try but I am at a loss.
My needs are simple...
1. The newest version of android I can get (just to annoy my dad)
2. I must be able to blacklist calls and texts (without needing an app)
3. No bloatware, I don't want my phone doing anything unless I want it to.
4. Things like blinkfeed are totally not wanted.
5. I am not even sure what sense is, I am pretty sure I don't use it
That will do it, thank you for looking. Suggestions?
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First, you need to know there is no "golden rom" that will make everyone happy. You have to try them out yourself and see which one you like the most.
Anyway, to answer your questions:
1. Lineageos 16 currently is the only rom with android pie. However it's very early release, so minor and major bugs are to be expected. I'd recommend you lineageos 15.1 instead - oreo isn't that old and the rom is very stable.
2. It's possible on lineageos 15.1 and roms based on it, should also be possible on 16. Not sure about sense roms.
3. Almost all of the custom roms don't have bloatware. Also you can get root and delete apps you don't need.
4. Blinkfeed is only in stock roms. You can disable or uninstall it.
5. You're using it 100% of the time. Sense is the name of android skin on htc devices. It includes changes in look, feel and some functionality compared to stock android. You should know there are sense based roms - they are based on the stock rom, retaining sense functionality and look and custom, pure android roms - those have only minor changes in them and feel and look like stock android.
Great answers in the previous reply. Just wanted to add:
What qualifies as "bloatware" is completely subjective. The goal of the makers of these built-in apps (whether it be a manufacturer, carrier, or even Google themselves) is to provide useful apps. But that doesn't always work out, and certainly not always for everyone. However, what qualifies as "bloat" to one user, is a useful or even necessary app for another. So you say "no bloat" doesn't mean too much; without you being specific about what you want/need and what you don't. Therefore, there are various approaches/answers:
- If you refer to HTC specific apps, these won't be present in any of the more current ROMs. By definition, HTC stopped supporting this device with OS updates at Marshmallow. Anything after that, will be non-HTC and therefore AOSP or "pure Android" based.
- The AOSP based custom ROMs will often allow (even require) you to flash Google apps (gapps) separately from the ROM. This also allows you to choose which gapps package to install, and therefore tailor to your own needs. From minimal installation to get Android to work; to full suite of Google apps (many of which, a lot of users will consider bloat).
- Any pre-installed apps can be disabled or removed with root. Although you should take caution, as removing some bloat apps may break other phone functions. Unless you research and know the specific app is safe to remove, better to disable or "freeze" it with a root app like Titanium Backup. Then test the phone for a while, to see if there are any resulting bugs or issues.
Thanks, I have never really got into the whole Android and Iphone thing. My best ever phone was a Nokia N-gage and I only stopped using it recently due to my eyes not being what they once were.
My last phone was a LG nexus4 and I have only switched it up to the M8 as i saw it in a friends house with a broken screen.
I can already see it is a tad more responsive and to be honest the stock rom is probably fine for what I do (nothing + odd game) but where is the fun in that
Going to download lineage 15.1, sounds like a good start.
one last thing my M8 is 16GB of which 6GB was used, then I backed it up and that sucked up another 4GB so what happens exaclt when i install a rom does the original 6GB become free again? i have installe roms before back in the early days but my memory like my eyes aint what it once was
OK so i just jumped in and followed the 15.1 instructions (i think) Installed the rom, the suggested superuser thing and that went ok, but when installing the gapps (nano) it failed with lack of space. Doing something wrong??
The rom is starting with pink balls so I am almost there......and it is working. I went back and tried to flash gapps nano again and it actually says there is insufficient space on the system partition.
Resized it, then it seems to have worked. thanks guys i love it so far.
alphalvr said:
one last thing my M8 is 16GB of which 6GB was used, then I backed it up and that sucked up another 4GB so what happens exaclt when i install a rom does the original 6GB become free again?
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No storage is going to free itself up, from flashing a custom ROM. You will have to free it up yourself. You can delete the LOS ROM zip, once it has been installed. Although, I like to keep copies of custom ROMs on my computer for a while, just in case I need it again in the future.
If you have an SD card installed to the device, you can have your TWRP backup on the SD card, which will free up a lot of space. As you've seen, the TWRP backups take up a ton of storage! Having a backup on the device (either SD or internal storage) is "best practice" in my opinion; so it is handy in case you need to restore that backup.
You'll never get all 16 GB of storage. A significant amount is taken by the system (OS) and other uses. I think something like 12 GB of user-accessible storage is all you will ever see on a 16-GB device. And this starts to be eaten up the moment you start installing apps and using the device.
You guys have been a great help, I ordered a 2nd m8 off ebay and a genuine HTC dot matrix case although I now realise the dot thing is part of sense which I no longer have. whoops
I didn't realise at the time because everything seems to work but when i was installing I kept seeing a red line of text. iirc it was something about unable to access dalvik partition? I only realised it shouldn't have been saying that when I watched a youtube video of installing a rom that wasn't plagued by this line.
I need to do it again to try and figure what was going on.

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