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bluetooth mouse disables onscreen keyboard

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therocksab said:
I bought a bluetooth mouse of a local brand ( dany bm-3200 ), but when I connect it to note 10.1 the mouse works fine but the on screen keyboard is automatically turned off and the use on screen keyboard option isnt displaying in the settings. And when i click any box to put in text nothing happens. Any help how to fix this and get on screen keyboard working with the bluetooth mouse.
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Same problem here....

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Found a solution the other day. Use the Hardware Keyboard Action in Secure Settings.

[Q] Black bar on bottom of screen when connected to BT keyboard?

I've been using an old Palm bluetooth keyboard with my android devices since switching from a Palm device several years ago. I just recently purchased a BT keyboard specifically designed for the Note 10.1 2014 and from first connection noticed this bar that pops up at the bottom of the screen whenever the keyboard is in use. The little button with the "^" in the corner doesn't seem to do anything. Not sure what it's for. Is this something that normally happens with BT keyboards and I haven't encountered it because I've been using an older Palm BT keyboard?

Looks like a placeholder for a nav bar, which the note don't need, or ads. Ad blockers which work with non-rooted devices produce such empty placeholders.

I'm not running any ad blocker (even though my device is rooted), but this only shows up when I first connect the BT keyboard??? Weird stuff.

Well, the black bar still persists except that I figure out a workaround to get rid of it. It's just a matter of connection order. I have to turn on the keyboard first, then turn on BT on the tablet, go to a text field and when the onscreen keyboard pops up just press the spacebar and on the external keyboard and I'm good to go -- no black bar and a completely functional external keyboard.

internetpilot said:
Well, the black bar still persists except that I figure out a workaround to get rid of it. It's just a matter of connection order. I have to turn on the keyboard first, then turn on BT on the tablet, go to a text field and when the onscreen keyboard pops up just press the spacebar and on the external keyboard and I'm good to go -- no black bar and a completely functional external keyboard.
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this didnt work, did you end up figuring oout whwat causes this? im usung a galaxy note pro 12.2

I did not figure out any other way to avoid it happening other than the work-around I mentioned. I believe it's the auto-spelling-correct or maybe the auto-complete, but don't know for sure.

I have the same problem on my note 12.2. Simple install "External Keyboard Helper" from Play Store and enable the on screen keyboard and choose "External Keyboard Helper" if you will be asked. Now your BT keyboard is a soft-Keyboard and no black bar was seen again.

invisible cursor?

Is anyone else getting an invisible cursor on the default launcher? The cursor appears for me inside all apps, but becomes invisble on the home screen of the default launcher.

I also just realized that the cursor will also disappear if any system menu pops up. Example, if I try to install an apk the first menu pops up and I can use my mouse to click install, but when the next menu pops up that says next/install, the cursor disappears. The cursor does not become disabled, it just becomes invisable, but its kinda useless if you can't see it. I hope this is just a bug and not amazons way of saying they do not want us to use a mouse. Like I said, it still works in apps, but not on the home launcher or system menus.

A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?

porkenhimer said:
A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?
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It disappears for me too, using a K400 for mouse duties.

porkenhimer said:
A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?
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Well I tried it with k400 and yes the cursors changed to blue inside screen I was currently on (Netflix) But its not appearing on homescreen. You say invisible but I can't seem to get anything to click there. But, in fairness, I hadn't used the k400 much up to this point.
Anyways, you're not the only one experiencing this.

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KLit75 said:
Well I tried it with k400 and yes the cursors changed to blue inside screen I was currently on (Netflix) But its not appearing on homescreen. You say invisible but I can't seem to get anything to click there. But, in fairness, I hadn't used the k400 much up to this point.
Anyways, you're not the only one experiencing this.
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I say invisible, cause the mouse is still functioning even thought you cannot see it. I have the app store apk instlled so all of my apps are on the home screen and I can still click on them with the mouse, but its pointless to open apps not knowing which app you are clicking on. I also have Dock4Droid installed and can activate it by using the mouse even though the cursor cannot be seen, so its clear the cursor is becoming invisible for some reason. I am sure this can be fixed on rooted devices, but I am not rooted. There are other devices where the manufacture has made the cursor invisible on certain parts of the OS. Now that I know its happening to others I am inclined to think Amazon has done this to force people to use the remote. If it still happens after the next update then it will be clear that amazon doesn't want us to use a mouse to click on system menus and wants us to use the remote instead. Its kinda weird that they would add support for bluetooth devices like mice, but take away the ability to use a mouse on system menus, but maybe that was the reason they didn't have support for bluetooth devices in the past. Hopefully its just a bug. Not being able to use a mouse throughout the OS has ruined the experience for me since the last update.

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​I say invisible, cause the mouse is still functioning even thought you cannot see it. I have the app store apk instlled so all of my apps are on the home screen and I can still click on them with the mouse, but its pointless to open apps not knowing which app you are clicking on. I also have Dock4Droid installed and can activate it by using the mouse even though the cursor cannot be seen, so its clear the cursor is becoming invisible for some reason. I am sure this can be fixed on rooted devices, but I am not rooted. There are other devices where the manufacture has made the cursor invisible on certain parts of the OS. Now that I know its happening to others I am inclined to think Amazon has done this to force people to use the remote. If it still happens after the next update then it will be clear that amazon doesn't want us to use a mouse to click on system menus and wants us to use the remote instead. Its kinda weird that they would add support for bluetooth devices like mice, but take away the ability to use a mouse on system menus, but maybe that was the reason they didn't have support for bluetooth devices in the past. Hopefully its just a bug. Not being able to use a mouse throughout the OS has ruined the experience for me since the last update.
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yes. Im pretty ticked off if this isnt a bug. Just purchased a keyboard/mousepad specifically for aftv. I might contact them. Theres nothing nefarious about keyboards, but whenever i contact them i get the feeling the rep has no clue.
More i think about it...i doubt its intentional. This was a big update.

KLit75 said:
yes. Im pretty ticked off if this isnt a bug. Just purchased a keyboard/mousepad specifically for aftv. I might contact them. Theres nothing nefarious about keyboards, but whenever i contact them i get the feeling the rep has no clue.
More i think about it...i doubt its intentional. This was a big update.
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I think its intentional, cause I remember this happening on other devices and people having to edit a file to get the cursor to appear on certain part of the OS. It makes sense for them to hide the cursor now that they have given us the use of bluetooth mice etc. Its kind of like they are telling us that we need to use the remote that they supplied with their device. It sucks because installing apks basically has to be done with the remote now, cause as soon as the next/install menu pops up the cursor disappears making it hard to know where to click install. Now I have to pickup my remote everytime I install an app. Also with Dock4Droid I was always able to force close apps from anywhere, but now as soon as the app info menu pops up the cursor disappears, which is crazy, cause if you click the wrong spot you could accidentally uninstall an app. The new update is nice, and I have noticed a slight upgrade that is actually good that I have not heard anyone mention, they made the navigation sounds louder on the home screen. I like that and I like the other upgrades, but the cursor becoming invisible is irking the hell out of me. Now I know why the invisible cursor made everyone mad on other devices. At least the mouse still works just does not appear on any system menus or default launcher. I have a feeling that this problem is here to stay unless someone fixes it for rooted devices. It wouldn't be that big of a problem if we could enable seeing touches, but there is no option for that in the developer options like there is on normal android devices. I am very surprised that nobody else has mentioned this, cause I have a feeling that if enough people do not complain about it then nothing will be done to change it. I want my cursor back on every section of the OS, not just inside apps. I rarely used my remote before, but now I have to use it, which I do not like.

Just updated to the 51.1.5.0_user_515030720 firmware and the cursor is still invisible on the Fire TV Lancher and on system menus. Was hoping it was just a bug, but now I am sure its not a bug and Amazon does not think our cursors should be visible on their launcher or their menus.

FireTV not responding to keyboard commands

My niece has a Fire TV box that worked well until she moved recently. She lost her remote in the move, and went from a hard-wired ethernet to wireless connection (no idea if that matters). I told her that she could use a keyboard to navigate from the home screen (which wouldn't fully load because she doesn't have an internet connection) and set up her wireless connection using the keyboard, and then from that point she could use her smartphone to control the FireTV. The only problem is that she cannot get her external, wired keyboard to respond on the FireTV. Thinking she was just doing something simple incorrectly, I brought her FireTV to my house (I have one as well) and I plugged it in at my place. I have wired internet, and so the home screen did load at that point, but I tried my wired keyboard and I also could not get it to respond. I would just give her my remote and use my phone to control ours, but I can't get to any screen where I could program my remote to work with hers.
Any suggestions? I think it's pretty unlikely that both wired keyboards are bad, and although I don't think she's ever used the USB port I would think it's pretty unlikely that the port is bad too. Is there a way to do a factory reset without actually having a remote or keyboard?
Thanks!

Try an active USB hub between the keyboard and the aTV. Probably the wired keyboards do need more power (or to much for the aTV) in comparision with a wireless keyboard. If the keyboard is illuminated try switching the lights off to minimize the power consumption.

Calibaan said:
Try an active USB hub between the keyboard and the aTV. Probably the wired keyboards do need more power (or to much for the aTV) in comparision with a wireless keyboard. If the keyboard is illuminated try switching the lights off to minimize the power consumption.
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Wow, hadn't thought about that...I'll do that; thanks!

clb4g9 said:
Wow, hadn't thought about that...I'll do that; thanks!
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OK, I think I figured out the issue, but still not sure how I'll fix it. I couldn't get the keyboard to work with my Fire TV also, so I started playing around, and it looks like under Settings/Developer Options/USB debugging it was selected as "on". When I selected "off" the keyboard started working without any extra hubs or anything of the sort.
So here's my issue; how the heck do I get to the "USB Debugging" screen to turn this off without a keyboard or remote? I can't seem to work through that in my head unless there's a way to do a factory reset without a keyboard/remote/smartphone, set up my remote to work with hers, disable usb debugging and then give it back to her and then re-set the remote to work with my firetv. Thoughts?

I figured out a workaround, as shown here:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-remotely-control-an-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick-via-adb/
Luckily for me I had a hard-wired ethernet connection and adb debugging was enabled so I was able to figure out the IP address of the Fire TV and adb connect into it using my laptop, and then, very slowly, use the adb commands to scroll down and disable the "USB debugging" so that a keyboard would work. From here I think (hope) she can use a keyboard to set up her wireless network and then from there she can use her smartphone as a remote.
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BT mouse disconnects when screen times out

I have been able to pair an MS mouse. But it get disconnected when screen times out. The only way to get the mouse working again is to pair? Is there a way to keep the mouse connected? Can anyone recommend an alternative mouse that works?

greatg said:
I have been able to pair an MS mouse. But it get disconnected when screen times out. The only way to get the mouse working again is to pair? Is there a way to keep the mouse connected? Can anyone recommend an alternative mouse that works?
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Well im using a really cheap mouse on amazon and its working well, whenever the screen turns off the mouse is still connected seems like a problem concerning your mouse
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there's a setting that keeps the screen awake when your kb or mouse is connected.
i remember this came up when i paired my mouse the first time, make sure you check it.

AM Radio said:
there's a setting that keeps the screen awake when your kb or mouse is connected.
i remember this came up when i paired my mouse the first time, make sure you check it.
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Thanks. I looked for this setting? If you can remember that would be appreciated!

greatg said:
Thanks. I looked for this setting? If you can remember that would be appreciated!
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looked for the setting, but appears it's not readily shown after your mouse / kb is paired.
so try this:
1. unpair/forget your BT mouse
2. re-pair/set up your mouse again
3. you should see an entire screen just before the set-up concludes that asks you something like "Keep screen awake whenever your mouse is connected?"
it's literally just a single question at the top of the screen, and a "confirm" dialogue at bottom (poor use of space, Samsung! lol)