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My fourth message of the day ... I'm inspired !!!
I'm one of a little runners and cyclers group whose want evolve in my sport and use new technology to practice sports.
3 of our have baught and HTC trinity to have an all in one solution : GSM, music player and GPS.
We have test a lot of offroad program, gps tuner,beegps,nimo,noni,... and we are not satisfacted about them... We have ideas which the best program must have but we are so poor programers to do it.
So I would like to know if some of best programers of this forum could make it for us ?
Are you interested ?
We could send you all of ours ideas, with explained pictures ...
PS sorry if it's not the good place to post this ...
thank
Bike GPS
I have a Dopod D810 and I am developing a GPS application for it, mainly because nothing I tried out there did everything I wanted, and was suitable for use on a bike.
My app is a
- Raster-based GPS application
- Music Player
- Phone 'answerer'
- Text message display
- Big buttons (so you can press them while riding)
- Good reliability
I initially developed it for my Dell Axim X51v.
It supports importing/exporting routes and tracks to and from GPX and KML files, and can do playback of tracks. (ie it works with Google Maps/Earth routes and tracks)
It supports importing locations from names files.
It supports maps in TFW, SDW, JPG and BSB formats.
Any music files supported by windows media player are supported.
If you have any maps in one of the above format, this is for you!
wahou !
it's look like what i'm looking for ... without pearhaps a graph which expose speed and altitude during the trip... but i'm so interested ! what is the programation language use ? could you send me sources ?if you want, I can send you some draws to complet with option your soft ?
Its done in C++; sorry, I'm not going to release the source, but I'm happy to get any ideas you have.
oh, I forgot, there's a PC version off the same code base which makes it easier to see playback, build routes, etc. I'll add some speed/altitude/time graphs to it over the weekend some time if I get a chance.
I'll also eventually put the installers on my web site.
ok... it's not a problem that you don't release source... just ... could you send me just how you get speed, altitude and position ... you dialogue with the P3600 GPS... is there library or only code lines ?
My idea...
-make a rotation of your cards in function your deplacement like tomtom.
-on my soft, i would like record precedent trip to do versus when I take the same road. This versus could compare KM all long the time and bip me when i'm late.
-the graph which compare my speed and variation of altitude all long my trip
-instant speed/speed trip/time/km
Initially, I used the GPS API in the microsoft SDK, but its not reliable enough (sometimes it stops signalling updates on its event), so I wrote my own from scratch and the NMEA documentation.
- Sorry, I'm not familiar with tomtom, so I'm not sure what your after with your first request.
- Its not exactly easy to track a previously taken path and map it to the current path, but it could be done. The biggest problem is storage of your previous paths. I have about 24GB of old tracks saved! I'm waiting for an 8GB mini SD !
I'll have a look into the idea though.
- Displaying (and even graphing) current speed/time/altitude, ect are trivial and I already do that. I'll look into graphing.
Is anyone else interested in this app?
I would be interested in this for cycling and hiking.
Sorry for this question but why don't you let members of this forum download sources of your GPS API ? Or directly the API compiled to let other programing theirs applications if it is better than windows API ?
For my application I need only to know :
- Altitude
- trip point (x,y)
- how to solve to have speed (v=D/t)
Have you seen http://gpsdash.com/news.php
I'm always looking for more choice...here is one that many of my sport crazed friends are using. I may start using it for tracking my motorcycle rides too. Here is the software http://www.rungps.net/Wiki.jsp?page=HomeEN . Here is the online tracking server http://www.gps-sport.net/index.jsp .
The reason I'm not releasing source is because I may, at some time in the future, make this into a commercial product and I don't want to ruin my chances with that.
The other is that I don't really think it is of much benefit to most people to release source for an application. I think it is far more useful to make a library of the useful functionality, with a well documented API of the thing, so that people can start at a higher level to implement their ideas. Since I don't yet have such a library, I can't release that either .
I went riding on the weekend (its nice and sunny here), so I didn't get any more done on this.
From other people's responses, it looks like there's plenty to choose from anyway.
Once again, Yannn, there is documentation in the Microsoft SDK on how to access the gps (its called gpsapi).
Finally
I have finally decided to release an early version of this software.
Its at
http://www.lukepaton.com/BikeGPS/
If you are able to set things up for yourself, and want to give it a try, go ahead. I haven't got a huge amount of time to support it, so it might take some playing around to get it working, particularly at first. There isn't a manual or help for it, so go looking through all the menus and see what you can find!
To get started, from the View menu, have a look at settings, and set up your paths and then from the Map|File menu, choose, Re-Read All Maps.
Cheers,
Luke
Hi Luke
Thanks for the release. On first run, I got the message:
"Open File \CF Card\Data\BikeGPSMaps.mdt failed"
When I hit OK it closes. I made this directory path and chucked a .jpg in it and then it ran.
I see in Settings>Paths your default project is pointing to your compact flash card so I changed these to \Storage Card\...\
I have had a good look through the menus, it seems to be a pretty nice useful kit. I like the .sid support and export to .csv, even converts from OziExplorer Probably wouldn't use the player or sms fuctionality though.
Logged some data to the .gps_log file, will try and use it later.
Just can't see where to open map image. When I click open map it doesn't have anything in the list to select... No need to bother yourself with a full user manual, but it would be good to load a map background.
Sorry, I first developed it for a Dell Axim, and an iPaq before that. They have CF Cards...
To get it to have some maps to open, Map|File|Re read all maps looks in the map path (Settings|Paths|Map Path) (Mine is \Storage Card\Maps\).
It prompts you for the kind of files to load (KAP, TIF, SID, MAP).
Yes, MAP is from Oziexplorer - some of the map CDs I bought used MAP files, but the code to interpret map files is a bit of a mess, and it doesn't support oziexplorer ozf files...
After that, Map|File|Open Map|All Maps should give you something to open.
You have to select a single map (multiple selection is for delete).
Anyway, its good to see that someone could even get the thing installed
Cannot access menu, progrram will stop after prompt of missing file, it is not installed in memory card/data either. Also shortcut is missing.
Hi Fimae,
I used resco to add a shortcut, but the install program is supposed to put it in 'programs'.
Not sure what you mean by 'cant access menu'. There are about 7 menus, not including popups. Is the main menu visible?
See above about storage card. I'll make it allow you to browse for the storage card the first time it runs.
Thanks for your feedback.
Luke
Now I'm all motivated
I've done an update which should make it easier to work out whats going on when first installing. It will prompt for the path to your files.
At the first prompt, enter /Storage Card/, or wherever your storage will be.
It automatically creates Data/ and Maps/, so put your maps under /Storage Card/Maps/.
The web page now displays the last version and update date.
what about the mount ???
Hi, plz tell me if ur using any good cycle mount to hold trinity securely on the handle bar? where & how much u bought it for??? Anyone???
After trying Arkon mounts and a few cheapies, I found the best was a metal case,
(like this http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Metal-Hard-C...yZ150774QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) attached using double sided tape and a cable tie!
The problem with the Arkon-style mount is that they don't hold the device securely enough and are too bulky.
sthawk said:
Hi Fimae,
I used resco to add a shortcut, but the install program is supposed to put it in 'programs'.
Not sure what you mean by 'cant access menu'. There are about 7 menus, not including popups. Is the main menu visible?
See above about storage card. I'll make it allow you to browse for the storage card the first time it runs.
Thanks for your feedback.
Luke
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I ment that program stops to error dialog, and when i click it ok, application exits without seeing any menus. But now it worked wery well after writing \Storage Card\, thank you wery much.
I know this must be stupid question (like where is the any key) but i really does not understand what kind of form i have to use to copy maps to Bike gps? I have route66 and tomtom navigator maps (and for testing only miomap) in my storage card, i supposed that i cannot use map files from those apps?
HI - first post so please excuse any errors - Does anyone know of any software for my HD that will record GPS positions over time ? (at regular intervals etc) - I do a lot of longer distance running and would be interested in carrying my HD for a run to record distance, speed etc from the GPS. Also for walks etc - which I can then analyse later (ie prob record GPS positions at set intervals etc)
Does anyone know any software that will do this for me please ?
I'm using trackr to record my bicycle rides; works like a charm. The only drawback is that you have to leave the screen on.
Another possibility is trip tracker sportsmate
yes they look great thanks - will give it a try
track your run/walk etc
try smartrunner from http://www.smartrunner.de
its german, but freeware and absolutly the best i´ve ever used....
and i´m running many kilometers a week ;-)
grtz
http://www.rungps.net/
This recording of running around seems to be a German thing
you need a GPS program
I recommand: GPSmeter 5 or GPS Tuner
thnx all - will try them out
Try GPS Cycle computer, fantastis program and the schreen can be off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
TrackMyRun.mobi is also great.
Here's the thread over in the Diamond forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473623
run.gps
Run.gps is incredible software. It is absolutely the best software I have on my phone. Heres a few of its features:
1. You can plan routes on google earth and export them to your phone. Then it will display the route on your phone and you can even tell it to read out the directions of the route during your run.
2. It logs the position of your run, which can be viewed in google earth after your run.
3. It can read out to you anything you want during your run. eg. I set mine to tell me my speed, average speed, distance to the end of the route and time to the end of the route every 2mins.
4. It saves all of your training plans - giving a report for distance run, calories burnt etc. You can view these in a weekly/monthly format to see how much you have been doing.
5. Screens are customisable. You may not want to view a live update on a map as you run, you may just want to see your speed, distance run, calories burnt etc...So you can set the screens up exactly how you want. Theres a function to keep the backlight on during use so you dont have to keep pressing the on button during your run.
6. It can be used for loads of other sports not just running.
7. Can be used for interval training and marathon training.
8. Buying the software gives you membership to a site where you can plan/ view your routes and other peoples. As well as view all your training plans.
9.The software is totally finger friendly.
10. You buy the software in a bundle with a 'tune belt' neoprene holder which is pretty good for the Touch HD.
Anyway, hope that helps - I really recommend the software and theres a free trial for a certain period. I tried it before I brought it.
Regards,
Richard
I use everytrail, http://www.everytrail.com/ best one i found.
Pocket Reperion
Try out Pocket Reperion , it has :
- free GPS Tracking for Windows Mobile, Symbian, Java, Android, *nix...
- Realtime presentation in Google Earth/Maps/Mobile Maps, Virtual Earth, Mappoint, Yahoo!, and MapQuest !
- REALTIME PHOTO/VIDEO upload to the MAP ! (Show your buddies what's happening)
- Easy Geo-Fencing , alert via email about proximity
- Waypoints
- Local Search
- free 1024 character "i-SMS' to the PDA
- so much more...
free download at http://live.reperion.com
Alright, alright, before anyone says "WinMo has always been able to multitask" let me ask my question. I have the Skype .cab as well as WM Audio Redirect .exe on my phone.
They work wonderfully together (albeit through a few glitches, like not being able to run my start menu after using Redirect, so I have to soft reset), but I was wondering if there was a program (preferably) or a way (through registry) that I could have the Redirect .exe run FIRST when I click the Skype icon, so I don't have to run the Redirect .exe, then minimize and start Skype up.
So, in summary, I want to:
- Click the Skype icon
- Redirect .exe runs FIRST
- Then Skype opens
- ????
- PROFIT!!!
Is there such a way? Or am I doomed to opening WM Audio Redirect, minimizing it, then opening Skype?
Help appreciated.
PS - I did look through the forum and the magical website named Google for my answer, but my problem is the wording of this question. It's a bit difficult to get across this idea to search engines.
UPDATE: READ POST 3 for instructions for a temporary fix. Watch out below, .CAB files follow in the morning (US Eastern Time).
Because getting a reply in any reasonable amount of time seems unlikely, I'll describe what I've found: Mortscript.
Except, yes, I have to learn how to make the Mortscript first. So when finals are over, I'll get to work on it, so all the little boys and girls of the Touch Pro 2 corner of XDA can have a way to run WM Audio Redirect and then Skype.
I'll keep this thread updated as often as possible with my progress. It shouldn't be too hard though, and I'll post all the .CAB and .ZIP files when I'm done (Skype 3.x, WM Audio Redirector, and the Mortscript file).
Yes, it will happen. I have enough experience with scripting and half a brain to make this work.
No it won't happen right away, as I have finals and then I have to test the crap out of all this to make it work. So sit still.
UPDATE: Slight breakthrough has been made. I'm sure for those who care enough, it'll be good news for them. For those that don't, well, just ignore this post and go on with your merry life. .CABs are posted in ORIGINAL POST.
POSITIVES: It works. What more do you want? (A working MortScript, duh)
NEGATIVES: You're mapping a key. One you're probably not even using right now. Quit whining. I'm still working.
Attached are the all the .CABs that make running WM Audio Redirector and Skype together a streamlined process. The steps are as follows:
1. Download ALL .CABs (pretty obvious really).
2. Install the SDKCerts .CAB, then the RhodiumKbdControl_GSM .CAB to your DEVICE. Your phone will reboot afterwards, so read on while you're waiting. That way you can put all that excitement boiling up within you from having a working Skype download into finishing this short and temporary guide (until I've learned how to make a MortScript for it, then of course you'll have to read the next guide, at which point it'll be DOUBLE the excitement, and you'll be so much more excited - so much so in fact that you go and read the entire Encyclopedia Britannica while waiting for the .CABs to download).
3. After the .CABs are installed, you're of course going to download Skype to your MEMORY CARD and WM Audio Redirector into this path on your DEVICE MEMORY (after extracting the folder): \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools (at least that's where I always stick it, you can stop at "Programs" if you want a useless folder bogging down your aesthetically pleasing "Start Menu').
4. Almost done! Now, about mapping that key that you're probably not using much anyway. Here's what you're gonna do: go to your "Start Menu," then "Settings," then "System," and finally "Keyboard Config." After you've made it to there on your long mecca to the promised Working Skype Download, you're going to click "Menu" then "Add Key."
At this point you'll map whichever key you choose (I used the "OK" key on my keyboard) to TWO functions with just the single click option. Click the "+" slightly lower on the screen, and click "Run Program" for the choice of keymap. Navigate to your Skype download on your MEMORY CARD and choose the Skype.EXE.
Next, click the "+" AGAIN and map another program - this time it'll be the WM Audio Redirector (the file is known as TROCA2.EXE, but you can just navigate to wherever you placed it).
5. Click the "OK" softkey button, and it'll put you at the entrance screen (the one you were introduced to when you first opened the app). Click "Update Config" and BAM! You're all set. Just click the key you mapped, and both programs will open, first the Audio Redirector then Skype. Don't close out TROCA2.EXE or Skype through the earpiece won't work. Just let it do it's thing, and sit back and wait for both to load.
PS - If you get ahead of yourself and forget to click "Update Config" you're going to have to go through steps 4. & 5. again. Just a warning.
Until next time when I have the MortScript ready.
Hi,
I did up a home replacement for my Nook simple touch, thought I would share it. This is an initial release, no doubt there are bugs, incompatibilities, etc, you were warned. There are no checks for other devices at this point, NST only.
Thanks to the nook community for the noogie.img file, touch nooter, and relaunch for source code ideas and various threads regarding quick refresh and e-ink support.
Disclaimer: Now, what I am using currently is the bare minimum, I have tried quite a bit of the work in this forum and it works well, but I wasn't satisfied or 100% confident and I wanted less installed. So, I restored my nook to stock, used noogie and copied over a rooted ramdisk. That was it, no touchcolortools, nooktouchtools installed, adw minimal this or that, or button saviors. I am sure they are great programs but I don't know enough about them or have the interest/time to do research on them to want to keep them installed.
For me, the point is to keep things simple and maintain battery life. It's an e-reader not a tablet after all. I just want to read books, check email, check a website or two, get some more use out of wi-fi since I don't live in a B&N supported nation.
To install:adb install EPubBrowser.apk
Optional:
I also installed Email.apk and set up my gmail from there, no certificates required or a million google app files and plucking a chicken on a Tuesday after jumping on your left foot crap. No offense to those who like chicken plucking.
adb install Email.apk
Done and done.
I can do up a CWM zip upon request, but last going off I have a continuous reboot after installing the latest version and if you know enough to get the Nook's CWM installed you should be able to use adb.See attached files.
What is not working:
Since Android doesn't really know about multiple external storage locations (at least for the Nook's 2.1 and/or my knowledge of android) EPubBrowser is unable to detect when the internal storage has been remounted, there is no notification of that, just notification of external storage. So if you plug in your usb cord to the computer the list of books will be empty even when you remove it. So if you don't have an sdcard you will have to hit the back button and launch home again to refresh.
Also, B&N books are not listed, whatever is in My Files will be scanned only. That applies to internal and sdcard storage. You can still use B&N's Library to access those.
I don't have any option of uninstalling apps either. adb uninstall works fine or you can just delete files from /data/app via adb shell.
What is working:
Launch of EPubBrowser via nook's home button, without use of nooktouchtools, it duplicates how the B&N home app works.
The notification icon for resuming reading goes through the app. As long as the book was launched from EPubBrowser it can remember the last book, otherwise the main display will show up. Reason being that for whatever reason the last page read doesn't work with the B&N home screen if it's not a book bought from B&N. But if you are just using the B&N Reader app it's not a problem.
When you are prompted which home you want you can select EPubBrowser and hit default. This may not stay set and will go away the next time you reboot.
How to use:Left / right swipes to go to the next 6, previous 6 books, no indication of the current page is displayed, (e-ink and aesthetics).
Touch a book cover to launch a description of the book, swipe up and down to scroll through the description, touch the cover displayed there to start reading. Hit back button on top of screen to exit without launching a book.
To bring up the list of apps installed, swipe a clockwise circle starting at 10 O'clock. Touch an app to launch it, left or right swipe to go back to main screen.That's it for now.
If you have any ideas for improvements, bug reports, please provide as much detail as possible, and when you have done that add some more detail.
Cheers!
Updates:
2/19/2012:
Added screensaver for last read book. (Jpeg 75%) Settings->Display->Screensavers->EPubBrowser
11/4/2012:
Added src project
Looks nice! I'll give it a shot later when my Nook's charged.
Thank you for making and sharing, i am going to try tomorrow and tell you,
Improvements
First of all, thank you for creating this cool launch screen. I love the simplicity of it. Here are is brief list of improvement that you can perhaps easily implement.
-When on the homescreen with the covers of all the books, I am not sure if I am suppose to scroll down or to the right to view the rest of my books.
-When on the page with the details from the book, there is no back button to take you back to the homescreen. I end up using the button savior back button.
-The circle gesture that takes you to the apps does not feel very responsive to me.
Anyhow, great job. Can't wait to see how you plan on improving it
OW MY EYES
I installed this, and everything just kept flashing. GO Locker and GO Launcher are both broken, and the only way I could fix it was by getting into ADW and closing the task. Did I install it incorrectly? I put it onto an SD card and used ES File Manager to install it.
ChunC said:
First of all, thank you for creating this cool launch screen. I love the simplicity of it. Here are is brief list of improvement that you can perhaps easily implement.
-When on the homescreen with the covers of all the books, I am not sure if I am suppose to scroll down or to the right to view the rest of my books.
-When on the page with the details from the book, there is no back button to take you back to the homescreen. I end up using the button savior back button.
-The circle gesture that takes you to the apps does not feel very responsive to me.
Anyhow, great job. Can't wait to see how you plan on improving it
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Hi,
Thanks for the feedback.
You swipe left to go to the previous page of books. You swipe right to go to the next page of books, assuming you have more than 6 books. Personally, I know what books I have on the device so it's not a problem knowing how many are left to see for me.
The back button should be on top of the screen in the middle, not sure why it wouldn't be there on yours. I will give it a think, maybe remove the scroll control in the book description and just use gesture detection and scroll the text via code.
Responsiveness and speed will likely improve over time, I am using the gesture library, maybe there are some optimizations there I can do.
Cheers!
Googie2149 said:
OW MY EYES
I installed this, and everything just kept flashing. GO Locker and GO Launcher are both broken, and the only way I could fix it was by getting into ADW and closing the task. Did I install it incorrectly? I put it onto an SD card and used ES File Manager to install it.
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Hi,
Noted, so it doesn't work with GO Lancher/Locker. Never tried GO stuff, so that wasn't tested. It was tested with ADW and relaunch, and I had all the rest of your typical touch nooter install there without problems, android market, etc.
I have run it with Home.apk renamed to Home.apk.bak and that works fine as well.
As for your other question, if it is installed it is installed, there are no configurations to modify, however you get it there it should be fine.
Cheers!
WANT
Noted that it does not work with go, will have to get rid of that first.
From the screenshots, I can already tell you put time into polishing! Good job!
NFHimself said:
Hi,
Noted, so it doesn't work with GO Lancher/Locker. Never tried GO stuff, so that wasn't tested. It was tested with ADW and relaunch, and I had all the rest of your typical touch nooter install there without problems, android market, etc.
I have run it with Home.apk renamed to Home.apk.bak and that works fine as well.
As for your other question, if it is installed it is installed, there are no configurations to modify, however you get it there it should be fine.
Cheers!
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I'll try it again without the GO software, but it was making everything just keep flashing, like the lock screen.
@NFHimself, any plans for taking this to github? It is very close to what I always wanted but I was also looking for:
- some kind of usage of Calibre data
- library filtering for series, highly rated, etc.
- tracking of books that are clicked to maintain sort of recent read filter
- sorting options by rating, series, and other Calibre properties
- option to display 6 or 12 (smaller) book covers.
I hope it already does use intents for selecting a different epub reader for those who have no defaults and multiple ones installed.
I know its a long list, and I have some Android experience. I am sure there would be other developers here so a combined effort might help.
Screenshots looks good, but on the Nook - only flashing screen like Googie2149 said
tazzix said:
@NFHimself, any plans for taking this to github? It is very close to what I always wanted but I was also looking for:
- some kind of usage of Calibre data
- library filtering for series, highly rated, etc.
- tracking of books that are clicked to maintain sort of recent read filter
- sorting options by rating, series, and other Calibre properties
- option to display 6 or 12 (smaller) book covers.
I hope it already does use intents for selecting a different epub reader for those who have no defaults and multiple ones installed.
I know its a long list, and I have some Android experience. I am sure there would be other developers here so a combined effort might help.
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Hi,
I use Calibre as well, I just connect via adb and calibre picks up the nook and I copy books over and it converts on the fly, cool program. Using Calibre data is an idea worth looking into, if I can fit it into the theme of no preferences, no extra buttons or config. There are plenty of those kind of home apps already. Relaunch for one is great, just missing a graphical front end, I was going to mod that, but decided that I didn't really need so much stuff and I wanted to learn more android API.
I did up the app using pretty straight forward epub standards (note the plural), it works with most epubs I have run across, not sure if looking for extra xml is a good functionality vs performance tradeoff. I haven't been using EPubBrowser for very long myself, so when I add more books and find something annoying I will probably make changes to fix it. I want to keep things simple, if I need a preferences menu, it is already going the wrong way.
I am not specifying any class, just a regular launch this epub file intent, so it should work with any reader. I like the stock reader myself, cool reader seems to dislike some epubs I have above a certain size, and I didn't want to deal with it.
I may github it, I am kinda time limited these days.
Cheers!
AgentSlash said:
Screenshots looks good, but on the Nook - only flashing screen like Googie2149 said
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Hi,
More details are needed to figure that out. What device do you have? What do you have installed on it?
Cheers!
I just wiped then manually rooted my Nook, and this works now. Although I'm having some trouble with getting to the apps page after the first time I did it. Could you possible change how you get to the apps page? Maybe change it so you have to click the menu key to get to apps.
Edit: Now that I've added my books, it shows me two books, one empty, and another book. Now it just flashes and removes/re-adds the last book. :/
Edit 2: I found that there are a few books that just don't like this launcher and cause the entire Nook to start flashing. I've been adding my books one by one to see which work and which don't and I'll try and find similarities between those that don't.
Great launcher replacement.
Running right now, but after the second page, I get sent back to the first, regardless of left-to-right or right-to-left swiping. Ideas?
Also, any chance for a page up/down use for scrolling through books?
I took a quick vid. It looks like when I swipe again from R to L, it tries to redraw the next books, but gets confused?
http://youtu.be/K1ukWFK0syg
ace7196 said:
Great launcher replacement.
Running right now, but after the second page, I get sent back to the first, regardless of left-to-right or right-to-left swiping. Ideas?
Also, any chance for a page up/down use for scrolling through books?
I took a quick vid. It looks like when I swipe again from R to L, it tries to redraw the next books, but gets confused?
http://youtu.be/K1ukWFK0syg
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Hi,
I'm busy painting the baby's room, but it looks like it is resetting, perhaps one of your books is crashing the app and it is being relaunched as the home screen. Or could be some other bug, how many books are involved, if you remove one or add one, does it go away?
If someone could open the e-pub (it's a zip file) that causes the error and paste the contents of the .odf file (it's an xml file) , that would help.
Cheers!
NFHimself said:
Hi,
I'm busy painting the baby's room, but it looks like it is resetting, perhaps one of your books is crashing the app and it is being relaunched as the home screen. Or could be some other bug, how many books are involved, if you remove one or add one, does it go away?
If someone could open the e-pub (it's a zip file) that causes the error and paste the contents of the .odf file (it's an xml file) , that would help.
Cheers!
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I've gone through and removed / added ebooks, and still the same problem.
Sorry, been kinda busy.
I need to be able to see the bug on my end to work on it. Maybe I've been lucky with the book selections I have made or converting using Calibre has set them all to have the same kind of format, vs the variety you might see in the wild from multiple sources.
Does the error happen with no books?
What happens when you have just one book?
How many books do you have on your nook? (If it's something like 1000 then yeah, maybe you'd have issues, no checks in the code for being out of memory.)
What firmware are you using?
Are there any hardware differences? (Can't imagine that being a problem, but I am using a NST, not the original Nook.)
What can I do to reproduce this error on my end? What are the steps?
Cheers!
NFHimself said:
Sorry, been kinda busy.
I need to be able to see the bug on my end to work on it. Maybe I've been lucky with the book selections I have made or converting using Calibre has set them all to have the same kind of format, vs the variety you might see in the wild from multiple sources.
Does the error happen with no books?
What happens when you have just one book?
How many books do you have on your nook? (If it's something like 1000 then yeah, maybe you'd have issues, no checks in the code for being out of memory.)
What firmware are you using?
Are there any hardware differences? (Can't imagine that being a problem, but I am using a NST, not the original Nook.)
What can I do to reproduce this error on my end? What are the steps?
Cheers!
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For me, it doesn't matter how many books I have, it's just a few specific books that crash, independent of the other books in my library, and some books are more severe than others (one makes the entire Nook start flashing (all software), others make only this app flash).
I have the same problem as the people above but I can't get past the first page. I can't seem to narrow it down to a certain book making it crash. It's a shame I love this home screen, but hopefully we can get this fixed and running great.
EDIT: Found a faster and cleaner way!
You guys who run tablets that have uber tiny amounts of storage (e.g. 32gb dell venue 8 pro) might want to do this as it will free up space used by apps that you probably don't even touch. You can always just install any you want to keep from the Windows store, but personally I think 8 apps are all crap (except Netflix.)
Click start > type 'powershell' (no quotes) > press ctrl+shift+enter > (say yes if it asks)
Type the following:
Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -online
Get-AppXPackage | Remove-AppxPackage
Tada! No more useless built in Windows apps taking up disk space, and new user accounts don't start with a cluttered start menu.
If you're like me and you keep an autoconfigure batch script for new installations, you can accomplish the above with the following lines:
powershell -Command "Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -online"
powershell -Command "Get-AppXPackage | Remove-AppxPackage"
Guessing this works with RT as well, but it's a sad OS that I wouldn't ever buy, so I can't test.
(Old post sticking around for archival purposes)
I never use these things. I don't like apps that force full screen when it is really unnecessary. I guess it makes sense for a touch screen, but for a desktop this is downright stupid, especially when you have a big monitor and like working with multiple things at once. Anyways, I noticed that these take up a gig of space, and I am on an SSD, so space is precious. Sadly, uninstalling them from the start menu doesn't actually delete them, in fact it's really no different at all from using the unpin from start option.
Simply navigating to that folder to delete them doesn't work. First you'll claim ownership via the UI, and then it will at least let you browse the folder. I tried taking it a step further and using the universal "take all" method from an admin prompt:
d:\windows\program files\> icacls windowsapps\* /T /C /Grant UsersOI)(CI)(MA)
It failed. So I figured, let's try rebooting to the command console and do the same thing. Success! Well, not really.
If you type del windowsapps, it pretends to delete them, but it doesn't actually do so. Microsoft is clever, they really went out of their way to make sure you keep them and like them! So I took it a step further, I tried the same thing from WinPE by booting from the install disk, hitting the repair button, and navigating to the command shell. Same result as above. Microsoft REALLY wants to make sure they remain intact.
Fortunately though, I have an ace up my sleeve. I booted a linux ISO, mounted the partition, and did an rm -rf WindowsApps, and lo and behold, its gone! You see, linux doesn't really care if you keep metro apps, it just does whatever you tell it to.
By the way, I did this inside of a VM just to make sure that it doesn't break anything, and so far, it doesn't appear to do so. The apps still remain in the start menu (if you didn't unpin them) but launching them just returns right back to the start menu. No worries, just unpin them and it will stay out of sight and out of mind.
Something confuses me though...the live tiles for these apps still actually work. At least, the live tiles for news, finance, and travel still work, but launching the app just drops you back to the start menu. My guess is that the live tile portion of the app runs in another process. Somebody who is more familiar with WinRT could chime in here. Also, the useless windows store and some important things like the desktop app and the "pc settings" app (aka metro control panel) remains intact, so no issues there.
Anyways, I'd like to figure out a way to delete these while windows is still running, that way I can automate doing so when I install windows. Any ideas? My current thought is to remove them from the install.wim, but it's kind of a PITA and often something goes wrong when I try to muck with that.
Thanks for the info. I won't be able to do the research until the weekend, but in searching for windows 8 (non-Microsoft) themes, I found info on a program (I hate that all of a sudden all programs are being called 'apps') which lets you take (for real) ownership if system files. The info where I ran into it's usage was because Windows 7 and 8 need either hacked system files (guess having a hacked 7 with legit license was a great idea) or a special program to load a custom theme.
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Out of curiosity, what built-in apps did you find to be un-deleteable? Removing the built-in apps that I didn't use (Finance, News, etc.) was easy; just right-click or flick downward (to select the tile) then select Uninstall. Leftover files in the WindowsApps dir could be removed.
GoodDayToDie said:
Out of curiosity, what built-in apps did you find to be un-deleteable? Removing the built-in apps that I didn't use (Finance, News, etc.) was easy; just right-click or flick downward (to select the tile) then select Uninstall. Leftover files in the WindowsApps dir could be removed.
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The built in apps that it places on the start menu when you first log in to Windows 8. It prevents you from deleting them, because then new accounts won't see the apps, and it forces them on to the start menu by default.
You can delete them from Start easily enough, if for some reason you find their presence there offensive. You can also delete the updated versions from the device. The basline (1.2) versions are, I assume, what you are complaining about... meh. If you want to bang your head against this, go ahead. I get what you're asking for now, though I really don't understand why. Besides, full-screen or not, some of the "Metro" apps are pretty good, especially a few of the games (which are frequently FS anyhow). It's worth keeping the store around for free game downloads IMO... but I think we've already established that our opinions differ on how to use Win8.
GoodDayToDie said:
You can delete them from Start easily enough, if for some reason you find their presence there offensive. You can also delete the updated versions from the device. The basline (1.2) versions are, I assume, what you are complaining about... meh. If you want to bang your head against this, go ahead. I get what you're asking for now, though I really don't understand why. Besides, full-screen or not, some of the "Metro" apps are pretty good, especially a few of the games (which are frequently FS anyhow). It's worth keeping the store around for free game downloads IMO... but I think we've already established that our opinions differ on how to use Win8.
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You're thinking of using the "uninstall" option from the start menu. That does NOT delete them, it just removes all references to them. They still reside on the hard disk and consume disk space. On my 120GB SSD on my laptop, every gig counts. Why leave them there when they are doing nothing at all? No banging your head involved, just boot up linux, rm -rf WinApps, problem solved.
Anyways, last I checked there were approximately zero AAA titles in the windows store. In fact, I've yet to see any windows app do anything that can't already be done better in a web browser. I'm not particularly impressed with solitaire collection, pinball, toy soldiers...and ooh mahjong, the game to end all games. The only one even remotely interesting is hydro thunder, in which case they ought to call it Retro instead of Metro.
Rakeesh_j said:
I never use these things. I don't like apps that force full screen when it is really unnecessary. I guess it makes sense for a touch screen, but for a desktop this is downright stupid, especially when you have a big monitor and like working with multiple things at once. Anyways, I noticed that these take up a gig of space, and I am on an SSD, so space is precious. Sadly, uninstalling them from the start menu doesn't actually delete them, in fact it's really no different at all from using the unpin from start option.
Simply navigating to that folder to delete them doesn't work. First you'll claim ownership via the UI, and then it will at least let you browse the folder. I tried taking it a step further and using the universal "take all" method from an admin prompt:
d:\windows\program files\> icacls windowsapps\* /T /C /Grant UsersOI)(CI)(MA)
It failed. So I figured, let's try rebooting to the command console and do the same thing. Success! Well, not really.
If you type del windowsapps, it pretends to delete them, but it doesn't actually do so. Microsoft is clever, they really went out of their way to make sure you keep them and like them! So I took it a step further, I tried the same thing from WinPE by booting from the install disk, hitting the repair button, and navigating to the command shell. Same result as above. Microsoft REALLY wants to make sure they remain intact.
Fortunately though, I have an ace up my sleeve. I booted a linux ISO, mounted the partition, and did an rm -rf WindowsApps, and lo and behold, its gone! You see, linux doesn't really care if you keep metro apps, it just does whatever you tell it to.
By the way, I did this inside of a VM just to make sure that it doesn't break anything, and so far, it doesn't appear to do so. The apps still remain in the start menu (if you didn't unpin them) but launching them just returns right back to the start menu. No worries, just unpin them and it will stay out of sight and out of mind.
Something confuses me though...the live tiles for these apps still actually work. At least, the live tiles for news, finance, and travel still work, but launching the app just drops you back to the start menu. My guess is that the live tile portion of the app runs in another process. Somebody who is more familiar with WinRT could chime in here. Also, the useless windows store and some important things like the desktop app and the "pc settings" app (aka metro control panel) remains intact, so no issues there.
Anyways, I'd like to figure out a way to delete these while windows is still running, that way I can automate doing so when I install windows. Any ideas? My current thought is to remove them from the install.wim, but it's kind of a PITA and often something goes wrong when I try to muck with that.
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If you want to remove them from a windows install image
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/37039-Remove-Metro-appz-and-default-associations-to-them
phailyoor said:
If you want to remove them from a windows install image
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/37039-Remove-Metro-appz-and-default-associations-to-them
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Awesome, thanks!
You could had taken ownership of the WindowsApps folder and delete it, that's what I did.
Rakeesh_j said:
You're thinking of using the "uninstall" option from the start menu. That does NOT delete them, it just removes all references to them. They still reside on the hard disk and consume disk space. On my 120GB SSD on my laptop, every gig counts. Why leave them there when they are doing nothing at all? No banging your head involved, just boot up linux, rm -rf WinApps, problem solved.
Anyways, last I checked there were approximately zero AAA titles in the windows store. In fact, I've yet to see any windows app do anything that can't already be done better in a web browser. I'm not particularly impressed with solitaire collection, pinball, toy soldiers...and ooh mahjong, the game to end all games. The only one even remotely interesting is hydro thunder, in which case they ought to call it Retro instead of Metro.
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Oh, so a game is only good if it has AAA backing?
Konstantinos said:
You could had taken ownership of the WindowsApps folder and delete it, that's what I did.
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I tried that, even used some command line stuff that break all file locks and ensure that the current user has full control over the files. It would let you delete them, even go through and say it deleted them, but when you look in the directory again, they are still there.
link68759 said:
Oh, so a game is only good if it has AAA backing?
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No. My current favorites are both indie titles, and are not AAA. Those being Natural-Selection 2, and League of Legends.
For Google Chrome, there are MORE and BETTER games than in the Windows store, and to a lesser extent, Firefox as well. Yep, web browsers have better games than the Windows store.
Every single game in the windows store is either old or just plain crap. I played Angry Birds on a CELL PHONE over a YEAR ago. These are all casual games, not games that you sit down for a marathon session to play. If the windows store is your idea of a good place to get games, then I dare you to go to your friends and say "Hey guys, let's all go to my house and play some reversi and then some tick tack toe!" and see what kind of reaction you get. Or how about one better, ask them to bring their PC's over for a windows 8 lan party, I'm sure they'll get right on that one.
The two games I listed above are legit desktop titles. Windows 8 games are not. In fact, as I've said numerous times, there isn't a single windows store app that does anything that isn't already done better in a browser.
So I'm doing the ol' nuclear option of a reformat for the windows 8.1 update, and I just updated OP to include some new info I found (Maybe common knowledge at this point after 18 months of futzing around with 8? Who knows, just something I discovered on my own a few minutes ago while tinkering with powershell.)
Really neat and really clean compared to the other way.
I use Embedded edition that doesn't include preinstalled metro apps (only IE, skydrive and photo viewer are included)
441Excelsior said:
I use Embedded edition that doesn't include preinstalled metro apps (only IE, skydrive and photo viewer are included)
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windows embedded is not windows 8...
windows 8.1 Embedded Industry Pro is the same as Windows 8.1 Pro
here is screen of my desktop
441Excelsior said:
I use Embedded edition that doesn't include preinstalled metro apps (only IE, skydrive and photo viewer are included)
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That's effectively what you get when you run the two commands I listed. For whatever reason, skydrive and photo viewer aren't possible to remove. In fact they don't even appear to reside in the WindowsApps folder...I'm not even sure where they reside.
ok but true reason why I use embedded edition is that I got free product key from MS DreamSpark