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So, I'm stuck in my contract with an iPhone 4 on Verizon. This phone is slower than tar. I can't take it anymore. I used to be an android user back when the original droid came out. I loved that phone. I think it's time to switch back as iPhone 5's cost way too much and I miss android a little bit.
I think the 2 phones I would consider are the Nexus and the S3. Now, I've noticed the S3 has a little better specs but is Samsung still really bad with updates? I had the original Galaxy S and it was stuck on 2.1? the whole time. I couldn't stand that phone for that reason. Is the Nexus vanilla android so it has the newest android software as soon as Google releases it? Which phone would be a better choice to root? I really like to mess around with the phone and customize as much as possible.
Sorry for all the questions and if this is the wrong thread. It has been a long time since I was last here. I'd just appreciate some input from everyone so I can purchase a new phone.
Nexus.
Simple to root and customize.
Updates straight from google when they are released. Unless you buy a Verizon branded Nexus, then Verizon will take a couple months to release the update.
speedyink said:
Nexus.
Simple to root and customize.
Updates straight from google when they are released. Unless you buy a Verizon branded Nexus, then Verizon will take a couple months to release the update.
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Has Verizon been pretty good about updates so far? The Verizon Nexus is the only option as of now.
Is battery life acceptable with this phone? Easily get a full days use out of it?
ScoobyDoo27 said:
Has Verizon been pretty good about updates so far? The Verizon Nexus is the only option as of now.
Is battery life acceptable with this phone? Easily get a full days use out of it?
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I vouch for the s3 great battery life and quite decent camera .. works as it should.. no issues whatsoever only thing is when i turn data on and browse the web i can notice it getting some heat but thats for the tmo idk about verizon..
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If you get the VZW Nexus, be ready to flash some custom ROMs as Verizon drags their feet with updates.
If you live in an area with good t-mobile service, which is most large cities, leave version and get a Nexus 4
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It was nice having a Galaxy S III, but I've had it with my poor battery performance and lack of software updates from AT&T. (Considering the Galaxy S IV gets updates while we don't even have multi-window yet, I'm beginning to think AT&T has dropped support for it already so customers upgrade.) I'm gonna end up getting the next Nexus phone.
By the time the next Nexus phone comes out, it'll be a gen and a half old. Are there any good buyback programs you are familiar with, or would ebay be the best? What do you think the value will be around the October/November timeframe?
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It was nice having a Galaxy S III, but I've had it with my poor battery performance and lack of software updates from AT&T. (Considering the Galaxy S IV gets updates while we don't even have multi-window yet, I'm beginning to think AT&T has dropped support for it already so customers upgrade.) I'm gonna end up getting the next Nexus phone.
By the time the next Nexus phone comes out, it'll be a gen and a half old. Are there any good buyback programs you are familiar with, or would ebay be the best? What do you think the value will be around the October/November timeframe?
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I would say craigslist, i have sold ALL my devices on craigslist and it works the best, and you get the most money, but you really have to have expierence or else you would get scammed. You could trade or sell you're s3 on craigslist. And you would gain, but you have to meet up. Its really good, but you just have to be well expiereced. Hit the thanks button if i helped. :good:
Can.I.Haz.Jelly.Bean? said:
It was nice having a Galaxy S III, but I've had it with my poor battery performance and lack of software updates from AT&T. (Considering the Galaxy S IV gets updates while we don't even have multi-window yet, I'm beginning to think AT&T has dropped support for it already so customers upgrade.) I'm gonna end up getting the next Nexus phone.
By the time the next Nexus phone comes out, it'll be a gen and a half old. Are there any good buyback programs you are familiar with, or would ebay be the best? What do you think the value will be around the October/November timeframe?
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This thread is going to be locked.
And I would go with swappa. Its free and doesn't allow junk devices. And At&t wouldn't drop support for this phone, it will probably get 4.3.
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First, yes it probably will be locked
Second, swappa is probably the best place to get a fair deal and amount for your phone
Third, with the way ATT handles updates we might, maybe, possibly see 4.2.2 made official on the I747. About the only way to see 4.3 will be through an aosp based Rom (CM,AOKP, etc).
Fourth, the S3 was put on the End Of Life list about the time the Note 2 was released.
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First, yes it probably will be locked
Second, swappa is probably the best place to get a fair deal and amount for your phone
Third, with the way ATT handles updates we might, maybe, possibly see 4.2.2 made official on the I747. About the only way to see 4.3 will be through an aosp based Rom (CM,AOKP, etc).
Fourth, the S3 was put on the End Of Life list about the time the Note 2 was released.
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Just an FYI ATT generally EOL a device after about 6 months Max.
Wayne Tech Nexus
As we all know the Gnex has been the greatest Verizon phone of the last few years. Not the least cause of the great developers who maintain it. I have not seen such great support since the droid incredible days...race condition anyone? However I have been sitting on my upgrade since July and I just need something new. 1 hour of screen on time just doesn't cut it anymore.
Let's just assume I am stuck with Verizon. What is everyone else doing? I am torn between the g2's battery life and the note 3s community life. I have been reading about the notes poor signal(hello Verizon gnex) and the G2 poor support and I am completely undecided. What is everyone else's game plan?
I plan on putting 4.4 on it anyways with or without cellular data.
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staticx57 said:
As we all know the Gnex has been the greatest Verizon phone of the last few years. Not the least cause of the great developers who maintain it. I have not seen such great support since the droid incredible days...race condition anyone? However I have been sitting on my upgrade since July and I just need something new. 1 hour of screen on time just doesn't cut it anymore.
Let's just assume I am stuck with Verizon. What is everyone else doing? I am torn between the g2's battery life and the note 3s community life. I have been reading about the notes poor signal(hello Verizon gnex) and the G2 poor support and I am completely undecided. What is everyone else's game plan?
I plan on putting 4.4 on it anyways with or without cellular data.
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I would wait for Nexus 5. Pure stock android beats everything customized on the market right now.
just my 2 cents
vbauer86 said:
I would wait for Nexus 5. Pure stock android beats everything customized on the market right now.
just my 2 cents
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nexus 5 will prolly not be a verizon phone, so he cant rely on that.
If you want the most future proof device right now, the G2 and the Note 3 are where it's at. I think the Note is too large for every day use (I like to be able to use my phone one-handed). While not a spec powerhouse on paper, the Moto X looks like an awesome device. The same size screen as the Gnex, but with a smaller body. That's just awesome. If I was in the market for a phone right now, I'd seriously look at this device.
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I would wait for Nexus 5. Pure stock android beats everything customized on the market right now.
just my 2 cents
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I would be surprised if the next nexus is released on either sprint or verizon. Not saying it can't happen, but with Verizon's track record lately of locking down bootloaders, a Nexus doesn't fit in with their plans.
While the Nexus 5 probably won't hit Verizon, there still could be a chance. The latest N7 has Verizon support. I think the N5 was reported to possibly support it too. Not sure.
However the N5 is based off the LG G2, which has had a pretty widespread release on all carriers. I don't plan on upgrading until Decemberish but hopefully by then, the N5 is out and we can see how easy rom development goes back and forth between the 2 devices.
I'd love another Nexus device on Verizon but I'm not giving my hopes up.
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While the Nexus 5 probably won't hit Verizon, there still could be a chance. The latest N7 has Verizon support. I think the N5 was reported to possibly support it too. Not sure.
However the N5 is based off the LG G2, which has had a pretty widespread release on all carriers. I don't plan on upgrading until Decemberish but hopefully by then, the N5 is out and we can see how easy rom development goes back and forth between the 2 devices.
I'd love another Nexus device on Verizon but I'm not giving my hopes up.
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The Nexus 7 supports Verizon LTE. If it had a CDMA radio, things would be looking more likely. I don't think we'll be seeing a Verizon Nexus anytime soon.
All rumors point to Verizon being the only major US carrier not getting the N5, believe me, if in was rumored to find its way this thread wouldn't even be here. The Verizon note 3 doesn't come out till 10/10 anyways so I have at least then to see if any Google announcements are made.
I am really curious where most other Verizon gnexers will end up now that this phones 2 year birthday is coming up. And to hear thoughts as I am totally undecided.
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All rumors point to Verizon being the only major US carrier not getting the N5, believe me, if in was rumored to find its way this thread wouldn't even be here. The Verizon note 3 doesn't come out till 10/10 anyways so I have at least then to see if any Google announcements are made.
I am really curious where most other Verizon gnexers will end up now that this phones 2 year birthday is coming up. And to hear thoughts as I am totally undecided.
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I can tell you this verizon user went to prepaid (StraightTalk), and I love it. Wife and I save $60/mo, and still get LTE. Now I don't need to worry about "will my carrier get *x* phone?" While this option doesn't work for everyone, it's at least something to consider.
Why are so many people starting these threads before the Nexus 5 comes out? I'm still hanging onto this article here:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/12/4723138/lg-nexus-5-photo-details-revealed-in-fcc-filing
Notice the "update" section in the article. If its true, Verizon could still possibly carry it.
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Why are so many people starting these threads before the Nexus 5 comes out?
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cause people dont search.
I would love to go to StraightTalk. In fact my wife (iPhone 4S) and father (Nexus 4) and a few others have all switched and have no complaints. The reason I am tied to Verizon is this is a work phone purchased and paid for by my company. They use Verizon thus I use Verizon. For a while I carried 2 phones but I use Google Voice and wanted to save some cash.
I'm not upgrading my GN until December probably. This will give me time to follow the N5 release and the G2 development. I broke out of the Nexus line for the LG G2x and I hated every minute of it. The LG G2 looks like a super sweet phone but so did the G2x at the time. LG SUCKS at updating their equipment so without a solid dev community, I would be very hard pressed to pick up another one. I would rather go with a Galaxy S4 or Note 2/3 or just stick it out on my GN.
The Nexus 4 was based off the LG Optimus G (?) but after a year, I recently visited the Optimus forums and found their dev was very lacking. Many of the people said the dev from the N4<>LG Optimus wasn't too complicated, but it never had a following.
I don't want to fall into a phone that is outdated out of the box. I don't need official support from LG, but need a good official AOKP support to be happy for a while.
Unfortunately the linked article above shows FCC filings for a new LG-VS980 they claim to be a rumored VZW N5, but if you google LG-VS980, you'll find that it's the Verizon G2 model number:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+-+G2...skuId=1723195&contract_desc=&id=1219061252155
http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-VS980
So rumor busted.
I am also glad they fixed the ear piece from the LG G2x and the Optimus where there was a thin metal line at the top that would cut into your ear when in use. The new G2 reminds me of a Samsung, which is good. I would probably grab a white one. Never had a white phone before.
Update:
Good to know that ONLY the VZW version of the LG G2 has Qi Charging. I've invested in some Qi Chargers for my new N7 and love it. My next phone will absolutely have this feature. So it is good to know that even if I end up with a G2, I will be covered.
I also heard that the Verizon G2 also has unlocked GSM/LTE bands that work with AT&T and StraightTalk. This would be super cool because I travel. The military outposts we do typically will have 1 cell carrier and it is usually not Verizon. Good to know I can pickup a cheap prepaid sim to use temporarily.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-s-lg-g2-unlocked-att-and-t-mobile-hspa
What exactly would I be searching for? Reasons why other people are getting tired of their gnex? You think I don't troll their other forums seeing how people are getting along with the new phones?
Besides things change daily with these things, and it is not like there is an abundance of these threads either, not here.
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player911 said:
I would love to go to StraightTalk. In fact my wife (iPhone 4S) and father (Nexus 4) and a few others have all switched and have no complaints. The reason I am tied to Verizon is this is a work phone purchased and paid for by my company. They use Verizon thus I use Verizon. For a while I carried 2 phones but I use Google Voice and wanted to save some cash.
I'm not upgrading my GN until December probably. This will give me time to follow the N5 release and the G2 development. I broke out of the Nexus line for the LG G2x and I hated every minute of it. The LG G2 looks like a super sweet phone but so did the G2x at the time. LG SUCKS at updating their equipment so without a solid dev community, I would be very hard pressed to pick up another one. I would rather go with a Galaxy S4 or Note 2/3 or just stick it out on my GN.
The Nexus 4 was based off the LG Optimus G (?) but after a year, I recently visited the Optimus forums and found their dev was very lacking. Many of the people said the dev from the N4<>LG Optimus wasn't too complicated, but it never had a following.
I don't want to fall into a phone that is outdated out of the box. I don't need official support from LG, but need a good official AOKP support to be happy for a while.
Unfortunately the linked article above shows FCC filings for a new LG-VS980 they claim to be a rumored VZW N5, but if you google LG-VS980, you'll find that it's the Verizon G2 model number:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+-+G2...skuId=1723195&contract_desc=&id=1219061252155
http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-VS980
So rumor busted.
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This is the kind of dialog and thoughts is like to hear. I have the same fears about the G2. I always told myself id at least be happy if it got cyanogen or something but I still have serious doubts about it.
And what gets me about the note 3 is the rumored poor radio(being gnex owners we all know how annoying that is) and the fact that it is region locked with the sim. Maybe that will be changed with root/unlock but who knows.
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cause people dont search.
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A search in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Hey all. I am looking to upgrade to the Note 4. I have used my Note 3 T- mobile version on AT&T for the past year which had an unlocked bootloader so it got root and custom recovery almost right away. Did it really take 6 months to just get root on the ATT version of the Note 3? And if so, what are the chances it will take that long again?
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drmacrofish said:
Hey all. I am looking to upgrade to the Note 4. I have used my Note 3 T- mobile version on AT&T for the past year which had an unlocked bootloader so it got root and custom recovery almost right away. Did it really take 6 months to just get root on the ATT version of the Note 3? And if so, what are the chances it will take that long again?
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No one will work on it. Even with a bounty no one really seemed to care about getting root on the N3, we all just gave up hope when suddenly GeoHot swooped in with towelroot totally surprising everyone, but this was months later. There are still no custom ROMs and with safestrap development going away it just seems there is little incentive to root, especially when it's possible we may get the L upgrade in the spring.
But we won't know until the phones are released. Maybe there is a simple exploit and we get lucky, maybe not and we wait months or forever and it never gets rooted.
Oh wow. I didn't realize the ATT version didn't get root till towelroot. Man, that was forever. I am debating getting the Note 4 on T mobile, but to get it right away may be a pain, plus I don't think I will be able to get the 200$ off from Samsung if I go that route. I kinda want to just buy the phone outright and 200$ off is pretty nice.
Maybe I will just go with the ATT version and see how it goes and if development sucks and I really want to root or run custom ROMS I could always sell it in the future and get a T mobile one later....
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drmacrofish said:
Oh wow. I didn't realize the ATT version didn't get root till towelroot. Man, that was forever. I am debating getting the Note 4 on T mobile, but to get it right away may be a pain, plus I don't think I will be able to get the 200$ off from Samsung if I go that route. I kinda want to just buy the phone outright and 200$ off is pretty nice.
Maybe I will just go with the ATT version and see how it goes and if development sucks and I really want to root or run custom ROMS I could always sell it in the future and get a T mobile one later....
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I believe it did have Root when it was first released. But the update to KK fixed that root exploit, that's when we waited 5 or so months before towelroot came out. So the smart guys didn't update to KK, of course I was one of the stupid ones who did upgrade and I remember painfully waiting for root. Most of us had given up and assumed it would never happen, then literally one day GeoHot released towelroot with no warning at all.
I had the Tmobile one preordered, but I am pretty sure I'm going to cancel it and go with the ATT one. I'm reading here and there of reception and LTE issues with the Tmobile one on the Note 3 and really don't want to deal with that as my phone actually working is much more important than being rooted. I'll miss root greatly, but if I want to stay with ATT I guess that's the price I pay. And maybe we get lucky and a root pops up. Otherwise the only things I'm missing are titanium, and xposed which I mainly use for the multi windows module. I don't bother flashing custom ROM's so don't really care about that.
It did have root at launch and even with the first update. However for those who took the KK update, they were stuck until towelroot.
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I believe it did have Root when it was first released. But the update to KK fixed that root exploit, that's when we waited 5 or so months before towelroot came out. So the smart guys didn't update to KK, of course I was one of the stupid ones who did upgrade and I remember painfully waiting for root. Most of us had given up and assumed it would never happen, then literally one day GeoHot released towelroot with no warning at all.
I had the Tmobile one preordered, but I am pretty sure I'm going to cancel it and go with the ATT one. I'm reading here and there of reception and LTE issues with the Tmobile one on the Note 3 and really don't want to deal with that as my phone actually working is much more important than being rooted. I'll miss root greatly, but if I want to stay with ATT I guess that's the price I pay. And maybe we get lucky and a root pops up. Otherwise the only things I'm missing are titanium, and xposed which I mainly use for the multi windows module. I don't bother flashing custom ROM's so don't really care about that.
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Ok, that makes more sense. That is kinda what I remember now. Had forgotten all that and didn't pay too much attention cause I had the T mobile version. That was with that Root De La Vega or whatever.
Yeah, I am pretty sure I am gonna go with AT&T version at least at first. I can do it through Best Buy that way and get the 200$ instant credit with turning in a phone. Then on top of that hopefully sell my Note 3 and come out pretty good. At least that is the current idea. Will see for sure. At least now I know I don't want the iPhone 6+ after seeing the Note 4 in person.
As to reception issues, yeah, I don't think my Note 3 T mobile version ever got quit as good a signal or data speeds as the ATT note 3 does on AT&T network, which makes sense really. You don't have the ATT modem installed.
I initially had the Note 3 ATT phone too, and then the t mobile one which I got off ebay. I had both at the same time and did do some initial testing. The db signal was close, but not quite as good as the ATT version one was. That I do recall for sure. Not that the t mobile one was horrible, but just not as good. I am not sure about the data speeds however. I guess if you really want to be sure the phone is working the best it can, then better to use the one designed for the network you will use it on.
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The way I figure it is the Tmobile version is almost always cheaper on swappa/ebay. So if I really get sick of the locked bootloader, and also read reports on XDA that there are no reception issues I can always sell my ATT Note 4 and pick up a Tmobile one. Samsung phones seem to drop a bit in value at that 2-3 month mark, that plus the $200 rebate will mean I will prob make money off such a trade. That's the worst case scenario, realistically I'll probably just adjust to no root and keep the ATT one.
Hey Guys,
I'm really considering switching to Verizon, but I've heard they're very bad with locking down phones and rooting. Clearly you guys are all here, so they can't be that bad right?
Can you give me the lowdown on if expecting root for the Retail Note 4 is crazy? (Developer Edition isn't an option as I can essentially get the retail Note 4 for free through a family member) I'm so used to having root with things like Titanium Backup and Tasker. Not being able to use Tasker is almost a deal breaker for me.
Also, what am I sacrificing by not having an unlocked bootloader on the retail version?
Thanks for any input, help, and feedback !
No unlocked bootloader means no custom kernals, and more or less just stock roms that are tweaked a little. We would love root, but right now with Verizon it doesn't look like it will come soon. Especially with Android L coming soon (hopefully?). All in all though I love Verizon's service and will gladly sacrifice root for now. I'm sure it will come....eventually.
Don't look for root anytime soon, if ever
Yes, they are really that bad. I'd jump to another carrier in a heartbeat if the coverage was as good, but in my area I have little choice (YET!). If signal is comparable wherever you are, I'd think twice about switching.
Ugh. Thanks for the replies guys.
Tough decision for me. Currently with Sprint and they are so terrible here.
The Edge program w/ the 10 GB family plan and $150 port credit, basically is getting me a Note 4 for free.
Appreciate the replies again. I need to research what sacrifices I'm making without root.
I'll probably take my note 4 back and grab the LG g3 while it's still available from verizon. I don't know why but seems like when verizon finds out that certain devices can be rooted and unlocked they discontinue them. I purchased the HTC OneMAX when they came out last year, and I rooted unlocked and s-off in about a week. That device is only a year old but verizon has discontinued it like 3 or 4 months ago, jeez I wonder why.
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couragedragon said:
Ugh. Thanks for the replies guys.
Tough decision for me. Currently with Sprint and they are so terrible here.
The Edge program w/ the 10 GB family plan and $150 port credit, basically is getting me a Note 4 for free.
Appreciate the replies again. I need to research what sacrifices I'm making without root.
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Just switched from Sprint as well. Today was my first day with my Note 4 on Verizon from my Note 2 on Sprint. Service is amazing! I actually was not aware that root was hard to get on Verizon? This sucks, but I can sacrifice root for this amazing service!
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Just switched from Sprint as well. Today was my first day with my Note 4 on Verizon from my Note 2 on Sprint. Service is amazing! I actually was not aware that root was hard to get on Verizon? This sucks, but I can sacrifice root for this amazing service!
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That's what happened to me. Horrible Sprint signal, loving having good 4G everywhere for the first time EVER. Once I had the Note 4 and discovered how long it might take to root it I considered turning it back in and getting an S5 instead. So hard to go back to a screen that small now though!
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Hey Guys,
I'm really considering switching to Verizon, but I've heard they're very bad with locking down phones and rooting. Clearly you guys are all here, so they can't be that bad right?
Can you give me the lowdown on if expecting root for the Retail Note 4 is crazy? (Developer Edition isn't an option as I can essentially get the retail Note 4 for free through a family member) I'm so used to having root with things like Titanium Backup and Tasker. Not being able to use Tasker is almost a deal breaker for me.
Also, what am I sacrificing by not having an unlocked bootloader on the retail version?
Thanks for any input, help, and feedback !
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Hey I'm on Verizon Retail non-rooted version. Tasker is working fine and I'm using Local Password Lock Plug-in and it's making the lock time changes on the fly.
Yes I do miss titanium back up to freeze those apps they don't allow us to turn off. (disable)
aclays said:
That's what happened to me. Horrible Sprint signal, loving having good 4G everywhere for the first time EVER. Once I had the Note 4 and discovered how long it might take to root it I considered turning it back in and getting an S5 instead. So hard to go back to a screen that small now though!
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Is the s5 already rooted with verizon? Imo, the s5's processor is already outdated using the snapdragon 801, instead of the 805 like the note 4. Don't mind the smaller screen size that much though.
I took the plunge and no regrets as well. Service is way better, and you can't beat a "free" Note 4.
I found this awesome thread and thought I would link it here in case someone reading this didn't know about it.
What do you miss about root? Let's find workarounds!
Great stuff in there.