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i have never installed any custom rom yet.. i just saw cyanogenmod 7 was released and stable... heard it's the best rom out there... but is it worth installing it over htc desire's stock rom? i am starting to have some performance issues as i haev installed tons of apps on my desire.. will the performance be better on cyanogenmod 7?
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i have never installed any custom rom yet.. i just saw cyanogenmod 7 was released and stable... heard it's the best rom out there... but is it worth installing it over htc desire's stock rom? i am starting to have some performance issues as i haev installed tons of apps on my desire.. will the performance be better on cyanogenmod 7?
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yes, it is worth it but it does not have sense so if you are a fan of it you might want to flash leedroid
Define "performance".... apps opening faster? yes. Keep in mind, you will have a new launcher.
Battery life? Definately. I have about a 90% battery life improvement over my stock Desire ROM. Keep in mind, my phone is an east european model, compared to branded phones in the US, which means I didn't get bloatware installed.
Also, when you upgrade to CyanogenMod7, you can install setcpu, and overclock your processor. In addition, I run profiles to throttle back the processor speed if the battery reaches a certain percentage.
I can run, normal usage (without films) at least 2 days without recharge.
I run their RC3, just can't seem to think why I should update to their "stable" version. The only noticable thing I see, is that screen brightness doesn't seem to hold (get brighter). But a tiny annoyance.
Also, I would suggest updating the normal way to 2.29 first. I'm not an android programmer by any means, but have heard it also flashes the radio version,which can be important when flashing custom ROMs.
CyanogenMod has put tons of work into their ROM. Probably more than anybody out there. You won't be dissappointed.
There are a couple of other good ROMs out there as well. Oxygen, Gingervillian, and Muiu (spelling). But I only read about them.
If you have any problems, please ask BEFORE you brick your phone.
theyau said:
yes, it is worth it but it does not have sense so if you are a fan of it you might want to flash leedroid
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Yeah, forgot about sense, but really, I don't see much of a difference between running stock HTC and CyanogenMod.
Or maybe I am ignorant (staring at too many posts for too many days)
Sense has left me......
i am tempted for the battery life... maybe i will flash it tomorrow... it will be my first flash so... thinking well before doing it.. lol ... how's phone quality? are stuff like camera (recording and photo) improved?
yeahman45 said:
i am tempted for the battery life... maybe i will flash it tomorrow... it will be my first flash so... thinking well before doing it.. lol ... how's phone quality? are stuff like camera (recording and photo) improved?
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They added some options for video, mostly effects. I like the B/W for video. Camera quality is good. No difference from stock as far as I can see.
A lot more control as far as how your phone behaves (animations, etc). In fact, more options than I need.
You will miss some of the stock widgets though. And will have to get from the market.
Currently, I'm in the process of extracting the APK's from HTC's zip (between extreme beer sessions), and will see if they work correctly. They had a good Office app. and the weather widget.
If you do flash, you will need to also get the flash file for google apps and flash both at the same time. Then, afterwords, you can go to the market again, and get what you need.
Ohhhhh.... root your phone first.
already rooted my phone.. download rom manager from market.. probably will be using it to install cm7
yeahman45 said:
already rooted my phone.. download rom manager from market.. probably will be using it to install cm7
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I prefer to install it the old fashioned way, rather than Rom Manager. Although it's nice to flash the clockwork recovery.
I copy it to the root, goto hboot, recovery, wipe all caches, then run both updates. Cyan and googleapps
Remember, to a recovery backup on your phone, BEFORE flashing any new ROM.
They have TONS of instructions here.
Good luck.
i am going to follow this guide
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Full_Update_Guide
is it for cyanogenmod 6 or is it also valid for cm7?
installed cm7 finally.. got some issues but finally it's fine... only thing i couldn't install yet is app2sd... ext formatting done through rom manager doesn't seem to work... and i missed installation of the gmail app (i installed google addons for cm7) and when i started the phone, it asked whether to download and install gmail app.. i skipped thinking i would be able to install it later or recover it from my titanium backup...
i could not install it later.... and i messed up with my backup (i forgot to copy the license file...darn... i only copied the titanium backup folder thinking everything was there)..
first impressions.. i miss htc sense... not a big fan of adw launcher and most widgets not as good as htc sense ones... battery does not seem to be better.. is actually a buit worse than the stock rom (which was good imo)... maybe i need to re-calibrate my battery?
haven't installed a lot of apps yet so can't evaluate performance for now (performance was good on stock rom until i installed lots of apps and moved them to sd)... cm7 is more ugly than stock rom imo. will continue to use it and get more used to it... but overall.. i am missing stock rom... ( a lot of features seem missing or need fixing in cm7)
My default android camera randomly stopped working. Earlier today I tried taking a photo and my phone froze until it finally went to a completely black screen. A message popped up saying I could wait or force close the app, and I clicked force close. Now every time I try to use the camera, I get the same black screen and the only way to get out of it is to lock and then unlock my phone.
EDIT: For some reason my Tapatalk app didn't have the Q&A thread, any way to move it?
This is a ROM error and occur in old builded ROMs such as MIUI, Old CyanogenMod Builds (CM6), and sometimes Virtous ROMs. This error is mainly because the system has an alternate Camera App running on the system thus controlling passages to the original Camera's files. This can be fixed by:
Choice 1: Flash a new ROM that is of newer build.
Choice 2: You can try fixing the permissions in Rom Manager and rebooting.
Choice 3: Use the alternate Camera app (Pre-Installed on the ROM)
Choice 4: Use a root accessible program and remove the system app.
If this helped a little please thank... Lol ;P
*If you need more help feel free to contact!
Thanks bud, what would you recommend would be the easiest method?
If your phone is rooted with S-OFF and all that other stuff then seriously just find a stable rom that you like. Then from there all you need to do is flash a new ROM by booting into recovery either by restarting the phone and holding volume down OR if you have ADB set up then use adb reboot recovery.
Flashing a stable rom will ultimately solve your camera problem. As for a stable rom I would definitely suggest virtuous ROM.
That would probably be the easiest way. Otherwise you could try extracting the camera apk from another rom and installing that which is an extremely difficult thing to do or install an alternate camera app from the market like fxCamera.
I'm fine with my stock ROM, but doesn't Virtuous eat up a lot of battery?
Also I've tried fixing permissions with ROM manager and it didn't work. I've tried using the Pure Gingerbread ROM from the Dev Forums, but the camera didn't work either.
Actually Virtous does use alot of battery mainly because all of the required processes needed to run the system. I think the best method is use a blackmarket app and download an alternate Camera or use the extra camera app on the phone...
--- I would say methods 3 and 4.
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Actually Virtous does use alot of battery mainly because all of the required processes needed to run the system.
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What "required processes" are you talking about? I haven't noticed battery drain to be any worse on Virtuous than CM7 or any other ROM.
I'm guessing I have to get a separate camera app then? Using another ROM or fixing permissions didn't work.
EDIT: Turns out Camera ZOOM FX doesn't work either.
In my opinion virtuous doesn't burn a lot of battery unless you use the stock kernel it comes with. I found that the battery life almost tripled when I flashed the advanced virtuous kernel (1.0.9) onto it.
Just to clarify, Every rom will consume a lot of battery. Some just run fewer processes in the background or are less CPU intensive but regardless of all of that if you use a power efficient kernel (essentially a driver for your android) then your battery life will sky rocket. You should be looking for UV or undervolted kernels.
Anyways, back to topic. Try flashing a newer radio onto your device. Then if you can try using Virtuous. Your camera should definitely work with virtuous in all honesty. If you like virtuous then just flash one of the advanced kernels and then watch the battery life sky rocket.
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In my opinion virtuous doesn't burn a lot of battery unless you use the stock kernel it comes with. I found that the battery life almost tripled when I flashed the advanced virtuous kernel (1.0.9) onto it.
Just to clarify, Every rom will consume a lot of battery. Some just run fewer processes in the background or are less CPU intensive but regardless of all of that if you use a power efficient kernel (essentially a driver for your android) then your battery life will sky rocket. You should be looking for UV or undervolted kernels.
Anyways, back to topic. Try flashing a newer radio onto your device. Then if you can try using Virtuous. Your camera should definitely work with virtuous in all honesty. If you like virtuous then just flash one of the advanced kernels and then watch the battery life sky rocket.
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I don't know how to do that or where to even start. *sigh* Seems like anything I try fails.
Well if your phone is rooted then all you need to do download the ROM you want and the kernel you want. Then put them both on your sdcard. From there boot into recovery and then install via ZIP and then select your ROM first. After that process is complete you wanna restart your phone and set it all up. Once you're happy go into recovery again and then install the kernel.
If the camera worked before, and its not now, I would think a full wipe and flashing back to stock would work. Or just returning to an old nandroid backup (from when the camera was still working), if you have one. Or you might try a factory reset.
Also, if you switched ROMs, and the camera is still not working, I suspect that not wiping the data, cache, and dalvik might be the culprit. If you were going from a Froyo ROM to a Gingerbread ROM, you should do a full wipe.
Using an alternate app seems like a silly solution. It shouldn't be that hard to get your packed-in software working.
Also, I would not suggest changing the radio, unless you have specific reception and/or battery issues, or you are switching to a different ROM with a specific recommended radio. "If its not broke, don't fix it" is the common mantra for radio flashing, as its an unlikely but possible way to brick your phone. Its also possible your reception and battery life will be worse after changing radios. IMO, if your reception is good, don't mess with the radio.
Hi guys,
I own a Motorola Defy currently running on Froyo 2.2.
I've been reading the guide threads on installing a custom ROM and I am interested in trying it out.
I am currently focused on CM7.
However, I just want to confirm that going through this process is going be advantageous. My current stock Froyo installation is stable but can sometimes be a bit slow. Would CM7 (running Gingerbread) be a smoother ROM overall? Also would I be able to get better battery life, or overclock my CPU to a higher clock speed? Are there other advantages?
Apologies if this question has been asked before. I tried searching but could not find any direct information on why I should change from stock.
If u just want a faster and a bit smoother rom just install 2nd init to overclock yr cpu. If you are looking for speed and performance then CM7 and lastly Miui for beauty and customization. U can have a different theme for your stausbar, sms etc. And if you don't like the iphone style launcher of miui then u can always install a different launcher In terms of battery life it depends but custom roms usually have less battery life from what i have seen. Hope this helps
Shahmatt said:
Apologies if this question has been asked before. I tried searching but could not find any direct information on why I should change from stock.
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i dont think anyone can give you any reason why YOU should change your ROM, but they can give you reasons why they changed theirs... its all a matter of preference, if you want a stable and reliable phone with everything working fine then you can stick with stock rom (or is it really reliable?? debatable hehe)
or you can go for ROMS that have beautiful interfaces, good battery life, lots of functions, fast and smooth... there are lots of options, its best you try it out yourself, i personally prefer CM7.1 while a friend of mine loves CMIUI...
I think just rooting the phone by itself will give you quite a few advantages, personally I didn't see much difference in at first battery life by using CM7, 7.1, 7.2....but those give a good bit more freedom, and if you want to you can turn your phone into a speed demon (the stock defy....is....not...) or a battery sipper that lasts for a while.
It's mostly just the freedom.
I root and use custom ROMs because I like to tinker it's the same reason I use Linux more than windows. I like to be able to change things and yes sometimes I break things but then I get to learn how to fix them.
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Thanks for the responses.
Would the CM7 jump from Froyo to Gingerbread show a significant improvement?
Shahmatt said:
Thanks for the responses.
Would the CM7 jump from Froyo to Gingerbread show a significant improvement?
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Yes.
I use MIUI. Exactly WajkUI.
Faster and all ways better than stock ROM.
CM 7 is good also but I think it has an old and boring user interface.
If you're installing a Custom ROM it is not only that you get Gingerbread (this is actually the smaller thing), you get a different user experience, a fresh design (no Motoblur anymore), more customizations and tweaks.
My favorite in terms of stability, smoothness and speed was Galnet MIUI (before I switched to CM9 but that's not really final...), imho MIUI looks better, has nice built in apps and an awesome theme support (you can customize everything like the status bar, boot animation, font, lockscreen...). CM7 was a tiny bit less stable for me, it looks more like plain stock Gingerbread and you have some additional advanced settings.
Shahmatt said:
Thanks for the responses.
Would the CM7 jump from Froyo to Gingerbread show a significant improvement?
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Yes of course
I tried it myself and CM 7.1 is more stable
Thanks all for your help.
I think I will indeed go ahead and try a custom ROM.
I notice MIUI also seems to have a following. Can anyone point me to the relevant ROM forum link? I can't seem to find it in the Android Development Forum. :-/
I intend to use the instructions shown in the following link in order to flash a new ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054447
Am I right in assuming that steps 1 to 9 must be universal to all Defy's and that step 10 is where you flash the ROM of your choice?
There are indeed a few different miui variations that often different mods and add-ons. U can try the official english builds with no tweaks and mods just translated to english at miuiandroid.com or other english variation at miui.us or one with awesome mods and tweaks that i recommend will be wajkiui ics or ics miui dsj from the forums or galnetmiui from galnetmiui.co.uk.
Yes the steps are universal but a bit outdated.
U can't download 2ndinit from market anymore just get latest apk from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
Make sure you're on froyo if not you won't be able to downgrade or use any custom roms as they use froyo as base.
Also have your files ready on your sd card before you start this.
Steps
1. Backup your apps using titanium backup root or mybackup root additional you can backup your contacts and messages by selecting data in mybackup root
2.Download superoneclick from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682. Use the 2.11 version easiest and quickest to root froyo
3.Connect your phone to PC. Right click superoneclick -> open as admin
4.Wait till it says waiting for device then go to your phone in settings->Applications->Development check usb debugging is on
5.After your phone is rooted. Uncheck usb debugging and restart your mobile.
5.Now switch your phone on again and check usb debugging is on then download 2nd init from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212 and install the 2nd init recovery. It will ask the superuser permission Accept it. If the led light is green then 2ndinit was successfully installed.
6. Now Uncheck the USB debugging from Settings->Applications->Development and restart the phone now.
7.It will go in to bootmenu select 2nd init as default boot. Using the volume rocker to navigate and power button to select
8.Go back and click recovery -> Custom recovery ->* Wipe data/factory and Wipe cache and also go to advance and clear dalvik cache -> Install zip file from sd card(select the cm7 zip, repeat with the gapps zip) If it's miui no need to flash gapps
12. Reboot. Go to app drawer and start up the defy baseband switcher. select the appropriate baseband to achieve optimal reception.
Thanks to stewi21 for the original guide. If u need more help pm me or ask on the forums.
Happy Modding
If you are a us tmobile user, you almost certainly need wifi calling as the service stinks in closed spaces. So using a custom rom based on other than us froyo will eliminate that option...come on guys get it fixed please!
Thanks Kayant for the modified instructions. Many thanks also to others for the help.
So I went ahead and installed CM7. I figured I'll try the rest after having done a basic install to begin with.
It's pretty much the default Gingerbread experience I see. Quite smooth. A little disappointed that standard google apps like Gmail and Maps were not included but I soon settled this through the market.
Funny thing but Titanium Backup has seemingly not backed up some software like a paid version of Quick Office and Math Workout. Strange to me.
Battery life seems not much changed from the previous stock Froyo however I probably should give it a few days to stabilize.
Shahmatt said:
Thanks Kayant for the modified instructions. Many thanks also to others for the help.
Funny thing but Titanium Backup has seemingly not backed up some software like a paid version of Quick Office and Math Workout. Strange to me.
Battery life seems not much changed from the previous stock Froyo however I probably should give it a few days to stabilize.
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Sure that you have selected the paid apps when you backupped them with Titanium? I never had such issues.
Battery life: Have you already recalibrated the battery after installing CM7.1? Af not, after installing a new ROM simply use the app "battery calibration" from the market to improve battery life.
Ok so I'm not experiencing good battery life.
I tried recalibrating but the improvements seem negligible if any.
I'm getting about 10 hours on a full charge with moderate use.
I tried changing the CPU governor in the boot menu. I switched from on-demand to smartass, and now to powersave. Oddly enough powersave seems to be worse than smartass. With smartass it seemed the battery drain was slower, but still not significantly so.
I would like the phone to comfortably last at least 12 hours wth moderate use. Moderate being about 8 mins of calls per hour on average.
I guess it I ought to downclock the CPU from the default 1000MHz to the original 800MHz. But I don't understand the settings properly. I see numbers 300, 600, and 1000, but what do these mean? Can I just simply change 1000 to 800 to reduce the upperbound frequency, or is there more that I should do?
The main thing I see as an advantage is speed. My phone is 3x faster now that I have CM7
I just installed miui and im stuck... where is the app drawer???? Am i blind??
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There's no appdrawer. Miui's look a like IPhone.
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Ok, well im still stuck i cant get my network connection...im with telus on hspa
I see that for cm7 i can select a baseband with a well done app. It works very well so i am happy to see that i am still able to get a network connection somehow but i would prefer to use miui and it does not seem to find anything like if i did not get antenna conections with the rom. I tried miui on; miuiandroid.com 1.12.30 and an optimized version from a user on xda on another tread, after that i tried miui.us on version 1.12.23 and 1.12.30 and it always gives me the same exact result where i dont get any connection.
Since i was not able to get my connections i tried cm7 and i am facing another problem, i cant instal google. i went on filecrop and searched gogleapps and found 2 results, one apk that does not work and one zip file. I try installing googleapps.zip right after installing cm7.zip (the version from the cm defy link on the official site) and it just loops between the android skating and the start sceen for selecting wich language or a choice of start wizard and another one that i dont remember. Even if i reboot i get the same problem and if i try installing the rom without googleapps.zip all works great but i cant get google apps of course so i am shure it is when i instal the google.zip. So now what can i do?? Is there a super version of the rom with google apps already installed???
update; ok, ive got cm7 up and working, now to get that network connection on miui!!!!
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baseband switcher is built into CM7/9...
it can be installed on MIUI to allow regular reception ^^
I wub MIUI...
PS - Why install custom ROM? So, your not stock! <<= never look back
Hello guys !
it's been two days now that i received my Wonder , and i've been noticing lags in 3D games like temple run and gt racing ! and even the app drawer doesn't run smooth for a 1.4 Ghz phone ! So Any ideas guys ?
im curently runing stock 2.3.6 with I8150XXKL3 base band !
thanks in advance !
HEYYYY these are the steps you need to take to make your phone madly fast like mine.
-STOCK LAUNCHER is horrible change it to "Go launcher" or Something else trust me thats very important.
-Go launcher is good if you have the ice cream sandwich theme with it to make your phone look nicer.
-Also dont supercharge script because it makes the phone more unstable.
-No custom Roms, keep stock because is very stable.
-You need to root it.
-Add in clockwork recovery mod
-Flash the xxml8 Kernel for better battery life and 3d games
-You need SetCpu or something like it to force your phone to be always 1.4ghz if you want.
Say 245mhz-768mhz when screen off
Then 245mhz-1400mhz screen on this will make your battery last longer by up to 3+ hours.
fayosi said:
HEYYYY these are the steps you need to take to make your phone madly fast like mine.
-STOCK LAUNCHER is horrible change it to "Go launcher" or Something else trust me thats very important.
-Go launcher is good if you have the ice cream sandwich theme with it to make your phone look nicer.
-Also dont supercharge script because it makes the phone more unstable.
-No custom Roms, keep stock because is very stable.
-You need to root it.
-Add in clockwork recovery mod
-Flash the xxml8 Kernel for better battery life and 3d games
-You need SetCpu or something like it to force your phone to be always 1.4ghz if you want.
Say 245mhz-768mhz when screen off
Then 245mhz-1400mhz screen on this will make your battery last longer by up to 3+ hours.
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Good advice, I'd just like to add a few bits:
-The V6 supercharger script (from RC8+) is very stable and makes the stock ROM and stock launcher fluid, not unstable. Installing a 3rd party launcher will not fix memory management problems in stock ROM and will also lag over time.
-YES root the phone and uninstall all the bloatware apps from Samsung. This will free up memory making the phone faster.
-While I've never used the XXLM8 kernel for gaming, I do know gaming is far superior on Arco's CM9. If you care more about gaming but don't need a working camera urgently consider flashing CM9. In any case as a new user, spend time to flash CWM 5 and make a full backup before flashing any kernel or custom ROM.
Sent from my Wonder
of course the stock rom lags!! Use cyanogenmod 9 for galaxy wonder!! It never lags
Thanks to all of you !
Right now the only thing that stoped me from rooting is that i dont have any experience and it looks to me a bit complicated .
So what is the most simple way to do it ? Also i didnt want to flash cm9 because the camera is important for me , and i want to know what's the best rom with minor problems ?
Thanks again guys for ur effort
Sent from my GT-I8150 using XDA
UltimHero said:
Thanks to all of you !
Right now the only thing that stoped me from rooting is that i dont have any experience and it looks to me a bit complicated .
So what is the most simple way to do it ? Also i didnt want to flash cm9 because the camera is important for me , and i want to know what's the best rom with minor problems ?
Thanks again guys for ur effort
Sent from my GT-I8150 using XDA
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Let me help you
Now first of all. Rooting isn't complicated at all, you will be going to google and search: "how to root samsung galaxy w recovery mode", then you'll find a random website with instructions and the links,
1)after you have downloaded the zip file for rooting, put it into internal sd card, turn off phone, boot into recovery mode (volume up+home+power button)
when samsung logo appears, release power button, hold the rest of them, wait until a box and an android comes out, the press "option" button. Screen grays out and wait until recovery menu appears
2) choose install zip from sd card (navigate using volume up and down, home button as confirm/selection) then choose the zip file you have downloaded. Wait until it finishes, then reboot phone, you are rooted.
If you wanna flash a rom without increasing the count in download mode, using clockworkmod recovery, you'll need to go to google again, search how to install clockworkmod 5 on samsung galaxy w, choose a random link with instructions. Follow them, you'll need ODIN downloader and the ops files and the clockworkmod 5 file, they will be included in your download links you find. Follow their instructions, if it stays on setting up connection with phone while flashing cwm 5, close the ODIN, turn off phone, go to download mode again, use another USB port and try flashing cwm again, it happened to me once, and now it works
cwm is for flashing different mod and roms, you need it for everything. But flashing cwm cannot unroot afterwards, you'll not be able to use the unroot zip to unroot as cwm is installed, you will lose your warranty. Think twice before acting.
disclaimer: The above instructions are simply advice, if they cause any damage to your phone, for example brick, or whatever damage, I am not responsible.
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UltimHero said:
Thanks to all of you !
Right now the only thing that stoped me from rooting is that i dont have any experience and it looks to me a bit complicated .
So what is the most simple way to do it ? Also i didnt want to flash cm9 because the camera is important for me , and i want to know what's the best rom with minor problems ?
Thanks again guys for ur effort
Sent from my GT-I8150 using XDA
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if you don't want to flash cm9 because of its camera problem, you can try Rebel Rom 3.0 first, it is very alike with android 4.0, but still gb of course.
But the camera problem in cm9 is somehow repaired, not totally, it is still very broken and buggy, and it's still not good.
BTW, remember to back up your current rom before flashing anything, but you can back up nothing before flashing cwm5, that's why you lose your warranty. You can choose to flash stock rom back afterwards. I have personally not tried this, as this solution has a risk of bricking too...so better not restore stock rom back.
Hey dude. Grats on ur phone
here is what I did to get rid of the lag.
1- root
2- install busybox
3- run v6 supercharger
The phone will be lag free after that even with "touchwiz" launcher. And will remain stable since custom roms while giving great performence, made my phone unstable
Have fun
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Thanks mate
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fayosi said:
HEYYYY these are the steps you need to take to make your phone madly fast like mine.
-STOCK LAUNCHER is horrible change it to "Go launcher" or Something else trust me thats very important.
-Go launcher is good if you have the ice cream sandwich theme with it to make your phone look nicer.
-Also dont supercharge script because it makes the phone more unstable.
-No custom Roms, keep stock because is very stable.
-You need to root it.
-Add in clockwork recovery mod
-Flash the xxml8 Kernel for better battery life and 3d games
-You need SetCpu or something like it to force your phone to be always 1.4ghz if you want.
Say 245mhz-768mhz when screen off
Then 245mhz-1400mhz screen on this will make your battery last longer by up to 3+ hours.
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Hi fayosi,
can I flash xxlm8 kernel with Bionic Cow 2 ?
Or the cow kernel is good enough?
So i rooted my nexus 7 last weekend and i am using TWRP, stock kernel and i already tried CARBON NIGHTLY, paranoid android and now i am on liquid smooth rom, the system was slow on all 3 roms i tried (never had this on unrooted/stock) and had random crashes from the first boot. On liquid smooth its a little faster but its also the only one that keeps crashing the UI from time to time, not all the time but enough to be really annoying.
I am new to rooting and unlocking bootloader, this week has been a intense learning period for me on this so any help trying to solve the issue is welcome but keep in mind i am a noob on the subject
thanks in advance
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So i rooted my nexus 7 last weekend and i am using TWRP, stock kernel and i already tried CARBON NIGHTLY, paranoid android and now i am on liquid smooth rom, the system was slow on all 3 roms i tried (never had this on unrooted/stock) and had random crashes from the first boot. On liquid smooth its a little faster but its also the only one that keeps crashing the UI from time to time, not all the time but enough to be really annoying.
I am new to rooting and unlocking bootloader, this week has been a intense learning period for me on this so any help trying to solve the issue is welcome but keep in mind i am a noob on the subject
thanks in advance
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I too tried a bunch of ROMs, none of them impressed me much, I am now using stock with xposed+gravitybox and ElementalX kernel, best of both worlds. Hope you find what you're looking for.
mdamaged said:
I too tried a bunch of ROMs, none of them impressed me much, I am now using stock with xposed+gravitybox and ElementalX kernel, best of both worlds. Hope you find what you're looking for.
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how much difference will it be if i intalled a different kernel ?????
will gravity box let me get rid of navbar and add pie controls?
I'm curious to know what your definition of slow is? Are you referring to the time to boot, accessing apps, etc? Not too sure what would be up with the crashes. I'm running SlimKat 4.0.0 with the ElementalX kernel, and it hasn't crashed once for me in the few months I've had the device.
Brunolarogian said:
how much difference will it be if i intalled a different kernel ?????
will gravity box let me get rid of navbar and add pie controls?
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Depends on the settings you choose for the kernel, in some kernels you will get a better battery life and better app performance, and some kernels are pure performance and some even focus on battery life, most though provide both features allowing the user to choose what to use and not use, so you can choose settings on custom kernels to reflect what you prefer.
For example, in my case, I use ElementalX and use its governor, set the max cpu to 1.7ghz and max gpu to 450mhz, then I use an app called Faux123 kernel enhancement pro (there are free alternatives out there) and make individual profiles for apps, so the apps that do not need heavy cpu or gpu, I can tell the kernel to throttle the cpu and/or the gpu to save battery, while I will set a 3d game for example, to max out (slightly overclock in my case) the GPU and CPU getting smoother performance. Of course, battery savings is app and usage dependent and YMMV.
ElementalX uses something called Aroma which lets you select various settings just before flashing it, it adds other functionality, like loadable module support, exFAT support. various governors, max read-ahead settings, and so on, they are outlined quite well in this thread.
Do not feel as though you must use a custom kernel if you have no need for any of the features and are happy with stock kernel performance, the stock kernel is a good kernel, it just has limitations.
And yes, gravity box will let you do as you asked, it includes pie controls of its own as well as a way to make the nav bar go away, in fact it is how I use it. If you find its pie controls too limiting, you can use LMT. Personally, I think the built-in GB pie controls are fine.
...keep in mind though GB is geared towards stock roms, it is not recommended nor supported to use GB with a custom ROM.
mdamaged said:
Depends on the settings you choose for the kernel, in some kernels you will get a better battery life and better app performance, and some kernels are pure performance and some even focus on battery life, most though provide both features allowing the user to choose what to use and not use, so you can choose settings on custom kernels to reflect what you prefer.
For example, in my case, I use ElementalX and use its governor, set the max cpu to 1.7ghz and max gpu to 450mhz, then I use an app called Faux123 kernel enhancement pro (there are free alternatives out there) and make individual profiles for apps, so the apps that do not need heavy cpu or gpu, I can tell the kernel to throttle the cpu and/or the gpu to save battery, while I will set a 3d game for example, to max out (slightly overclock in my case) the GPU and CPU getting smoother performance. Of course, battery savings is app and usage dependent and YMMV.
ElementalX uses something called Aroma which lets you select various settings just before flashing it, it adds other functionality, like loadable module support, exFAT support. various governors, max read-ahead settings, and so on, they are outlined quite well in this thread.
Do not feel as though you must use a custom kernel if you have no need for any of the features and are happy with stock kernel performance, the stock kernel is a good kernel, it just has limitations.
And yes, gravity box will let you do as you asked, it includes pie controls of its own as well as a way to make the nav bar go away, in fact it is how I use it. If you find its pie controls too limiting, you can use LMT. Personally, I think the built-in GB pie controls are fine.
...keep in mind though GB is geared towards stock roms, it is not recommended nor supported to use GB with a custom ROM.
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i'm still debating on the custom kernel, i might not need it, but about the stock ROM should I download the one available directly from google or do I need to download it somewhere else ... btw thank you so much for the help
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I'm curious to know what your definition of slow is? Are you referring to the time to boot, accessing apps, etc? Not too sure what would be up with the crashes. I'm running SlimKat 4.0.0 with the ElementalX kernel, and it hasn't crashed once for me in the few months I've had the device.
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slow after it's been booted, when system is already up and running... I'm talking about while swipping for the next screen/page and also youtube videos are very choppy even after it finished loading the whole video
look, i am new to this but i am also not stupid, I'm trying to learn and fix my own issues, I know the average time it takes to boot the device and open apps (which btw sometimes it takes longer to open apps since i rooted)
Brunolarogian said:
i'm still debating on the custom kernel, i might not need it, but about the stock ROM should I download the one available directly from google or do I need to download it somewhere else ... btw thank you so much for the help
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No problem.
You can get it from Google (the linked rom is stock 4.4.4 for N7 2013 wifi) , but you will have to open the flash-all.bat file with a text editor and remove the -w from one of the commands so it does not wipe your data. If you don't care about your data then you can use as is, you will of course need adb and fastboot setup on your pc, obviously.
I use multirom (highly recommended) so I use tassadars flashable stock zip (note, that zip is for N7 2013 wifi too, but is 4.4.3, you would have to update to 4.4.4 via ota or flash 4.4.4s system.img).
You can also use wug's toolkit and select the no wipe option. Make sure you select the correct device, the N7 2013 wifi is named Nexus 7 wifi v2 in his kit, the one without v2 is the old Nexus 7 2012.
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No problem.
You can get it from Google (the linked rom is stock 4.4.4 for N7 2013 wifi) , but you will have to open the flash-all.bat file with a text editor and remove the -w from one of the commands so it does not wipe your data. If you don't care about your data then you can use as is, you will of course need adb and fastboot setup on your pc, obviously.
I use multirom (highly recommended) so I use tassadars flashable stock zip (note, that zip is for N7 2013 wifi too, but is 4.4.3, you would have to update to 4.4.4 via ota or flash 4.4.4s system.img).
You can also use wug's toolkit and select the no wipe option. Make sure you select the correct device, the N7 2013 wifi is named Nexus 7 wifi v2 in his kit, the one without v2 is the old Nexus 7 2012.
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i used wug's toolkit to unlock bootloader, but i flash my roms on TWRP, could i flash the img the same way i flashed the custom roms????
sorry if i am asking too much lol
Brunolarogian said:
i used wug's toolkit to unlock bootloader, but i flash my roms on TWRP, could i flash the img the same way i flashed the custom roms????
sorry if i am asking too much lol
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With Tassadar's you can, but again, he does not have a 4.4.4 up yet, so I would strongly recommend at least for this time, use Wug's to flash 4.4.4 using the no-wipe option. But if you are more comfortable doing it via TWRP, you can wait for Tassadar to add a 4.4.4 flashable, or use his 4.4.3, and then extract the 4.4.4 system.img from Google factory image of 4.4.4 and fastboot flash that with a PC.
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With Tassadar's you can, but again, he does not have a 4.4.4 up yet, so I would strongly recommend at least for this time, use Wug's to flash 4.4.4 using the no-wipe option. But if you are more comfortable doing it via TWRP, you can wait for Tassadar to add a 4.4.4 flashable, or use his 4.4.3, and then extract the 4.4.4 system.img from Google factory image of 4.4.4 and fastboot flash that with a PC.
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yea so far i am in a very NOOBish level so i might wait for the flashable version