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Note II - Laggy and jerky?

I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?

zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
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I have 245 apps installed on my Note 2 and it screams.
I showed to one of my coworkers, who has the S3, and he was commenting on how much faster it was than his phone.
So I'm not sure what the problem is there. Some sort of horrible bloatware?
- Frank

ChodTheWacko said:
I have 245 apps installed on my Note 2 and it screams.
I showed to one of my coworkers, who has the S3, and he was commenting on how much faster it was than his phone.
So I'm not sure what the problem is there. Some sort of horrible bloatware?
- Frank
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This phone is like the Buggati of smartphones. It cant get faster than this atm....
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Take the trolling else where... We all know how the Note 2 actually functions!

zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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Nope... its superfast!
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zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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I hate lag & hope the reviews are correct that the Note2 is a game changer for Android sans the dreaded lag but did notice some YouTube Videos on ways to address stock device lag:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=samsung+note+2+speed+up
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=samsung+note+disable+s+voice
How to Remove Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Home Button Lag. S Voice Tips
I'd also recommend people reboot the device if possible when testing it in stores..

zongamin said:
I went to try out the Note II in store today - and couldn't believe how laggy it was... I have the Original Note, which feels much faster in comparison.
I noticed lag on
Home Screen - jerky movement
App Drawer - jerky again
Gallery - Took 10 seconds to open, very jerky scroll
Home Button - 3 or 4 seconds to return to home
My note doesn't lag on any of these, even with the new 3D Gallery app.
This was in the UK, O2 store. I even tried it on two display models and they were just as bad
I reminded me of the horrible lag I used to get on the old Galaxy S with 2.2
Anyone else noticed this?
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maybe it had all those app runing in the background since most ppl never close them

Mods please close this thread. The Note 2 is the smoothest phone I have ever held. A pure joy to use.
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Pathetic topic i hv ever seen...
Totally a waste of time reading this topic..
Fired From My FireDevice.

I have close to 150+ apps and widgets on my home screen and I have yet to experience what you are talking about.
But again in stores everyone mess around with a phone and God knows what they do it.
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americasteam said:
Mods please close this thread. The Note 2 is the smoothest phone I have ever held. A pure joy to use.
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Not sure why the thread would need to be closed. The Op was simply asking a question based on his experience in a store. Some people need to relax!
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daz_2000 said:
Not sure why the thread would need to be closed. The Op was simply asking a question based on his experience in a store. Some people need to relax!
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I agree, some people take things a little to close to heart. But anyway in reply to the OP, I think that it was most likely because of everyone that uses the phone that goes through the store. I guarantee that thing has so many apps running in the background. If you go again, I say try to reboot it, and if you can't do that, try and close out as many apps as possible.

Obvious troll thread imo or the OP is a typical iPhone user in wich case he is not to blame as iPhones prevent you from using your brain

In defense of the OP I would say that I have noticed a very occasional lag once or twice when something has been running. For example running the premium version of printer share caused a massive drain on resources including battery and caused my device to hiccup. Also, I have noticed slowdowns with s-planner and netflix - both have frozen on me forcing at the least a force-close of the app and once a force reboot.
So, before too many people start jumping on the 'It's a troll, run for the hills' bandwagon, perhaps take a minute to realise that the stock device, while being simply awesome, fast, smooth and generally amazing is not completely bug free.
Just a thought.
Stock and Unrooted GNote 2 (for now.......)

kinsago said:
In defense of the OP I would say that I have noticed a very occasional lag once or twice when something has been running. For example running the premium version of printer share caused a massive drain on resources including battery and caused my device to hiccup. Also, I have noticed slowdowns with s-planner and netflix - both have frozen on me forcing at the least a force-close of the app and once a force reboot.
So, before too many people start jumping on the 'It's a troll, run for the hills' bandwagon, perhaps take a minute to realise that the stock device, while being simply awesome, fast, smooth and generally amazing is not completely bug free.
Just a thought.
Stock and Unrooted GNote 2 (for now.......)
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Can you name one perfect and flawless man-made item?

gee2012 said:
Can you name one perfect and flawless man-made item?
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My point exactly...

I had the same experience in the Vodafone store, the note 2 on display almost came to a halt. I tried holding down the home button to see if there were many apps running but it wouldn't even bring up the task manager. Now I KNOW the note 2 is a beast but an 'average' consumer might have been put off by it.
I still can't make my mind up between this and the S3 LTE version that also comes with 2GB RAM.

Oh come on guys, these in store demo unist are left on for days and days and days without reboot, people mess around with them all day, they are a prime example of a phone at its worse, ram usage will be high, apps won't have been closed properly or at all etc etc.

Dude, turn off Power Saving mode.
-_-

Telomeresis said:
Dude, turn off Power Saving mode.
-_-
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I use my phone most of the time with power saving mode, I have about 100 apps and my free ram is about 100Mo and I'm yet to experience any lag at all.
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SwipePad APP alternative

Does anyone know of another APP like Swipe Pad. It's a good APP but it lags a lot when i open an APP.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.conduction.swipepad.android
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ReLaunch - Launcher
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fiveprimes.relaunch

Thanks. I tried that re-launcher APP and it works flawlessly. The only issue i have is that you can't remove categories and APP's so it kind makes it overwhelming.
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check out wave launcher
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I have tried a bunch of them, and I always end up coming back to swipepad. Don't even remember the names of the apps I tried but they were a bunch of them
Sent from Flip's S3

Wave launcher didn't want to install for some reason. It keeps FC. But I found this APP that's almost like swipe pad without there lag.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.psc.fukumoto.ArcLauncher
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Actionx1 said:
Wave launcher didn't want to install for some reason. It keeps FC. But I found this APP that's almost like swipe pad without there lag.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.psc.fukumoto.ArcLauncher
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thats really odd. it installed and worked flawlessly on both my gs3s.

HomeFlip
If your are running 4.0+, HomeFlip could suit you, see thread here.

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I am using Smart Task Launcher

id0x12345 said:
If your are running 4.0+, HomeFlip could suit you, see thread here.
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I've loved swipepad but always hated the lag since I had an sgs2 and even when it became faster on my modern phones. This is fast, thanks and I can use both apps.

Although there are a bunch of these, there's nothing quite like SwipePad. I've tried to switch many times and I end up back with SwipePad like an old girlfriend. The only thing is, SwipePad doesn't seem to get updated very much. It took ages for the Lollipop update, and soon after it was done, Marshmallow came along. The context panel no longer works and blacklist also fails to work. It's a tad less responsive to the point that sometimes when you select an app to open, it misses. You have to linger maybe 200 milliseconds. Those things are annoying but even with those annoyances, it's still the best out there by quite a bit. I have two "pads", each with 12 functions. Twenty-four functions is quite enough for me when they are easy to get at and it doesn't require me to switch from Nova Launcher.

seaniedee said:
The context panel no longer works
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I recently updated my tablet from Kitkat to Marshmallow and realize that "Dynamic Pads: SwipePad add-on" doesn't work as Context Panel. From other reviews in Play Store I get feedback that this problem started a long time ago in Lollipop. Context is shown not for active app, but for active Launcher.
I overcome this problem yourself easily because I have rooted device, I moved "SwipePad Dynamic Pads" app from user apps to system apps. Now it works again as it should. Probably some app's permission restriction in LP/MM...

I know this post is old, however I found it with Google Search.
You can give my app a try, I believe it's the closest thing to SwipPad and even taking the idea further to a new level (keep an eye on the coming updates)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-zone-launcher-one-swipe-smart-t3971403

New TouchWiz UI

Let me preface by saying that I have been a Nova prime launcher user since as far back as I can recall. My beautiful white Nova outfitted Note 3 is sitting right next to me still connected via wifi as I transfer my experience to my Note 4. That said, I committed to actually giving TouchWiz a chance with this purchase and so far so good. Granted, it's just one day in but thus far TouchWiz feels and works wonderfully. There are certain cues that are lost when going to a 3rd party launcher which drove my decision to really commit to giving TW a shot this time around. So far I have been able to avoid going to the play store and grabbing trusty ol Nova..lol
I'm interested in hearing the thoughts from those of you that are also using TW. Please share.
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I don't like the app drawer icon in the bottom right, nor the spacing of the icons. That being said, it runs nice on this phone. I too have been using Nova exclusively for years, but have been using Google now launder and really like it. Going to stick with it for at least a while.

I used Touchwiz for a bit but quickly switched back to GNL.

137 views. 2 comments. A clear representation of what everyone thinks of TW..lol.
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b3asty said:
Let me preface by saying that I have been a Nova prime launcher user since as far back as I can recall. My beautiful white Nova outfitted Note 3 is sitting right next to me still connected via wifi as I transfer my experience to my Note 4. That said, I committed to actually giving TouchWiz a chance with this purchase and so far so good. Granted, it's just one day in but thus far TouchWiz feels and works wonderfully. There are certain cues that are lost when going to a 3rd party launcher which drove my decision to really commit to giving TW a shot this time around. So far I have been able to avoid going to the play store and grabbing trusty ol Nova..lol
I'm interested in hearing the thoughts from those of you that are also using TW. Please share.
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I am with you 100%. I was a Note 3 user with my sexy Nova Prime since I got it, and I would never go back to touchwiz.... until now. So far I have made it 2 days on Touchwiz. I mean it is clean, and it looks awesome, but I miss having more rows for icons, and mainly for stretching my widgets. So I feel at some time I am going to switch back. I wanted to give Touchwiz 2 days to see the battery effect when switching to Nova. I definitely am with you I would like to hear other peoples views, if anyone is using Apex, and what features they are switching to a launcher to get, for me its:
- 5 rows of icons
- App drawer also shows widgets
- App drawer can scroll apps vertically and horizontally
- When pressing and holding an icon you have the option to remove, uninstall, all from the app, without having to click it, hold it, and drag to remove. And then going to the app draw, clicking, dragging, and dropping on uninstall.

joshklee said:
I used Touchwiz for a bit but quickly switched back to GNL.
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Thank you for posting about google now launcher, somehow I missed that one. I love it!
I was also pretty happy with touchwiz (I used TW the whole time with note 3), but GNL is still so much cleaner and I love the integrated full screen google now. Google has a much better sense for interface design.

I'm on day three with TW and haven't had any strange impulses to go grab Nova. This is good. No lag. Silky smooth. The only tweak I made this far was to change all of the animation settings to .5 in developer settings.
This phone is incredible. I didn't think it could get no much better coming from my note 3 but they've really stepped things up.
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I've always used launchers and roms to mimic stock android but since I got the note 4 I haven't even thought about it. I'm pretty impressed with TouchWiz on this phone.
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I too am going on three days with Touchwiz. On my GS4 I used GNL modified with Xposed. I miss the swipe left for Google Now, but otherwise it has been a much better experience than Touchwiz on my Captivate, GS2 or GS4. Once/if we get root I may be convinced to switch, until then I will stick with Touchwiz.

I tried TW the first day and I did find it slightly laggy and hated the folder icons. I'm back to Nova Prime.
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Been using TW without a hitch.

Me too giving TW a chance so far so good.
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I found slightly laggy so I went back to Nova, but I might give it a second chance. The thing I definitely find not as smooth as expected is the recent apps, it takes a bit for the phone to show them once you tap the button, and a it to switch to the newly selected app. Nothing huge but with the phone's specs I expected a bit more

back to nova prime after 10 minutes lol

lebertian said:
I found slightly laggy so I went back to Nova, but I might give it a second chance. The thing I definitely find not as smooth as expected is the recent apps, it takes a bit for the phone to show them once you tap the button, and a it to switch to the newly selected app. Nothing huge but with the phone's specs I expected a bit more
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^^^ this
I was just about to ask about this. Is there any alternative or possible fix? It's quite laggy with the 2-3sec delay at first pull up.
My only complaint / wish for future fix

On my note 2 I was an avid Nova user, I am trying to use the stock touchwiz, but find myself annoyed that I cannot alphabetize apps in a folder.
I might give it a week then jump back to Nova, le sigh.

Jennygirl said:
^^^ this
I was just about to ask about this. Is there any alternative or possible fix? It's quite laggy with the 2-3sec delay at first pull up.
My only complaint / wish for future fix
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The fix for this is allegedly the update that is floating around for the Note 4. The international versions have it, and the TMo version got it yesterday (I think). It fixes the recent applications button and improves the battery life. So it is said at least.
Not sure when AT&T is going to release it. I would expect it any minute, but thats just an opinion, no one really knows.

That's great to know!
Looking forward to that update x2 now

boufa said:
The fix for this is allegedly the update that is floating around for the Note 4. The international versions have it, and the TMo version got it yesterday (I think). It fixes the recent applications button and improves the battery life. So it is said at least.
Not sure when AT&T is going to release it. I would expect it any minute, but thats just an opinion, no one really knows.
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Good to hear that! Hopefully AT&T won't take forever, but that might be wishing too much lol

TW isn't bad at all, but I like Nova because I can change the icon size/spacing and also take the padding out of widgets and fit a LOT more on my screens.
The one thing I freaking HATE is all the white in TW now, the settings menus, etc. WHY!?!?!?!? Don't devs understand that we have this thing called darkness? Man they should at least give us the option of a dark theme.

Hangouts lag??

Anyone getting alot of lag when sending hangouts messages?

On both the LG G3 and this phone.

I have not received any lag at all with hangouts or the default messaging app on the note 4. I am however having issues adding widgets on the homescreens and keeping apps in my folders in the app drawer after reboots. beautiful widgets and hd widgets and widgetsoid widgets all act as if they were added to the homescreen but then when you get to the homescreen, they aren't there. I know the apps coming out of the folders in the app drawer were a problems on most other samsung phones after the first boot, but mine is happening after every single boot.
As for sending messages, i havent had any lag at all. If anything, my signal has greatly improved

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On both the LG G3 and this phone.
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weird.. wonder if it's something with the resolution.. It's not some kind of intensive activity though. It's just really janky when hitting send.. hmmm

If that was the case, then why wouldn't i have the lag issues then? Is there any other apps that are consuming your ram while on your phone? At least enough to bog it down while sending messages?

I also encountered this issue. If you downgrade to stock hangouts, there is no lag. The lag is pretty harsh ONLY when you are SENDING the message.

yup! just put my 1 star review on Google Play. hangouts is the worst. it's terrible on all samsung devices. it's practically unusable. it lags down swiftkey like crazy. the only devices hangouts works well with are nexus devices and aosp roms. it's terrible on LG, samsung and htc ui. ugh so annoying.
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jayochs said:
yup! just put my 1 star review on Google Play. hangouts is the worst. it's terrible on all samsung devices. it's practically unusable. it lags down swiftkey like crazy. the only devices hangouts works well with are nexus devices and aosp roms. it's terrible on LG, samsung and htc ui. ugh so annoying.
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I completely disagree. No offense. I have used hangouts on my old htc, and all my samsung devices and have never had a problem at all. Ive used it on the s3, the rezound, s4, note 3 note 2 and now my note 4 with no issues.
Ill keep trying on my note 4 to see if i can duplicate the issues but so far it has been flawless

Do you have animations on?

jayochs said:
yup! just put my 1 star review on Google Play. hangouts is the worst. it's terrible on all samsung devices. it's practically unusable. it lags down swiftkey like crazy. the only devices hangouts works well with are nexus devices and aosp roms. it's terrible on LG, samsung and htc ui. ugh so annoying.
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Yea.. same exact experience Im having.
I even deleted my whole text database and hangouts message history to make sure that wasnt causing a problem. Tried clearing cache, data, re-installing, etc.
have sort of the same issue on my Galaxy Note 8 and my gfs Galaxy S4.. so many it doesnt like Samung for some reason. Dont have the problem on my old DROID RAZR M.
Oh well.. maybe it's something they will look into if enough people have the problem.

I get a small amount of lag right after I hit send, the paper airplane gets stuck half way thru it's animation then after a second or so it finishes it's animation and the message sends. Had this problem since the last update. Also affected my LG G3.

To whoever asked if i had animations on, i do.
I should also note that I am not running the tw launcher but nova instead until they can get the widget issue fixed. Not sure if that would have anything to do with it or not.
Some of you guys having issues be interested in trying a launcher form the play store and see if the issue still remains? Just fyi, themer is not compatible with the note 4 yet but all the others seem to work.

don't know how some people have it and some don't. i always suspected, though, that swiftkey might be a part of the culprit. swiftkey is the only keyboard i can use and type fast on, so i can't use anything else...but in hangouts it was always much slower than the stock keyboard. on my GS4 it was awful and lagged horribly. i miss google talk lol that app was perfect. never any lag. was always so quick on those low end phones..ugh!
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djsbad said:
To whoever asked if i had animations on, i do.
I should also note that I am not running the tw launcher but nova instead until they can get the widget issue fixed. Not sure if that would have anything to do with it or not.
Some of you guys having issues be interested in trying a launcher form the play store and see if the issue still remains? Just fyi, themer is not compatible with the note 4 yet but all the others seem to work.
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has nothing to do with launcher. i use nova.

Ok, with this new info, I am NOT using swift key. Beginning to wonder if that may be why I'm not dealing with the lag issue. It's weird that a keyboard would be lagging a messaging app though.
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I'm using stock note 4, just have my regular apps. Using stock Samsung keyboard, stock launcher. Still have Hangouts lag. It's not terrible, but definitely noticeable.

I have lag when sending messages, on that animation. Also had the same lag on my GS5. Not sure why.

djsbad said:
Ok, with this new info, I am NOT using swift key. Beginning to wonder if that may be why I'm not dealing with the lag issue. It's weird that a keyboard would be lagging a messaging app though.
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SwiftKey can make anything lag... lmao. it's akin to people's hate for touchwiz. it's an amazing keyboard but it just lags down when a stock keyboard wouldn't.
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I'm fairly confident the lag is from the last update. I didn't have this issue before they updated hangouts for calling features etc

coastieET said:
I'm fairly confident the lag is from the last update. I didn't have this issue before they updated hangouts for calling features etc
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I've tried desperately to duplicate this issue in hopes to help resolve any problems. I have Uninstaller hangouts and downloaded from the play store just to make sure I'm running the latest version. I hate to say this, but I still have no lag whatsoever. If you're stock and lagging in hangouts, maybe uninstall and reinstall?
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Same here, recently after thr upgrades, Google Hangouts has become worse. It does lag whike switching from text to emoji. Or as mentioned here by fellow XDA Member, that it lags while sending the message.
I could even feel the lag while typing. None other app has this issue. It has got nothing to do with what's in the background and what not. I stopped using Hangouts. Only use it to make Video calls.
Also, use any launcher. It doesn't affect it. Nova, TW, whatever. And the same goes to the keyboard too. I tried using Swiftkey, Swype, Google Keyboard, Phone's stock keyboard.
Reading some replies here, and I'm just giving my view. This lag isn't from the last update. You can say last few updates. Because before those updates, Hangouts used to work fine.
Hope there is a fix to this. I don't like downgrading applications. I better stop using them.
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Issues with Note 4

I've had my note 4 for a couple weeks now, and I have to say that the phone is not as powerful as I expected. Whenever I run a resource heavy app, the phone experiences severe lag after exiting the app. For instance, the Caustic app, which is a music mixing app, runs descent on my note 4 but after exiting the app the launcher becomes very stuttery and laggy. I loaded the phone up with Nova launcher prime, and it does work better, yet still lags. I have clean master installed, and I've gotton notifications from it a couple times telling me the RAM is above 80% and the CPU is hot.. I've always been under the impression that clearing processes from RAM on Android is a no no, but as a last ditch effort, I went ahead and did it anyway. Over all, I'm not happy with the phone performance. My 2013 nexus 7 performes better, and this is supposed to be a beefier device as far as hardware is concerned.. Should I take the phone back to AT&T?
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What other apps have you seen this with?
As I have not used caustic I cannot say if it does the same.
Is that app caustic 3?

icexshinigami said:
What other apps have you seen this with?
As I have not used caustic I cannot say if it does the same.
Is that app caustic 3?
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Yes, the app that's causing me the lag is caustic 3. The only other app that had caused the same stutter is Fit Brains Trainer by roseta stone.. Are you having problems too?
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norcal61 said:
Yes, the app that's causing me the lag is caustic 3. The only other app that had caused the same stutter is Fit Brains Trainer by roseta stone.. Are you having problems too?
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So I tried caustic not sure how long but it does lag the launcher after exiting. (nova launcher)
Also after reboot every thing is running smoothly again and started caustic again and it does not lag after exiting ~5mins of running (maybe I didn't leave it running as long or what not I'm not sure but that's all I can observe so far)
Hope that helps you a bit.

This is exactly why we need the ability to flash custom roms on Samsung devices. The out-of-the-box experience sucks. The phone performs night and day on a custom rom.

icexshinigami said:
So I tried caustic not sure how long but it does lag the launcher after exiting. (nova launcher)
Also after reboot every thing is running smoothly again and started caustic again and it does not lag after exiting ~5mins of running (maybe I didn't leave it running as long or what not I'm not sure but that's all I can observe so far)
Hope that helps you a bit.
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Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it. My girlfriend has an AT&T Note 4 as well. I loaded hers up with the caustic app, and had the same laggy results. Yea, sometimes after exiting the app, the lag is so bad I have to reboot, other times a simple screen lock and unlock takes care of it, and other times there is no lag at all. When I was using the touch wiz launcher it caused lag everytime.. Nova launcher is working much better, but still not satisfactory..IMO, if I have what is considered to be one of, if not the most powerful smartphone currently, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all.. I think after this phone I'll stick with nexus devices.. Even though I said the same thing after my Galaxy S4, and somehow got sucked into the hype on this phone..
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norcal61 said:
Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it. My girlfriend has an AT&T Note 4 as well. I loaded hers up with the caustic app, and had the same laggy results. Yea, sometimes after exiting the app, the lag is so bad I have to reboot, other times a simple screen lock and unlock takes care of it, and other times there is no lag at all. When I was using the touch wiz launcher it caused lag everytime.. Nova launcher is working much better, but still not satisfactory..IMO, if I have what is considered to be one of, if not the most powerful smartphone currently, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all.. I think after this phone I'll stick with nexus devices.. Even though I said the same thing after my Galaxy S4, and somehow got sucked into the hype on this phone..
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I think it's probably just Samsung bloatware interfering with phone function.
Personally I don't think it is a deal breaker just keep an eye out for those apps it may not be 100% compatible with our phones.

You may want to report the issue to the developer of Caustic. It could just be a software glitch isolated to this phone.
I personally haven't had the chance to see this phone lag at all and I definitely use it very heavily.

silentecho13 said:
You may want to report the issue to the developer of Caustic. It could just be a software glitch isolated to this phone.
I personally haven't had the chance to see this phone lag at all and I definitely use it very heavily.
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Do you use a cleaner app? I use clean master, and about once or twice a day I get a notification from clean master telling me the phone is preforming poorly, and ram is over %80. This usually occurs when I have a few apps open, and I usually do experience minor lag leading up to this. I allow clean master to wipe the ram, then reboot the phone and all is well for a while. This is very discouraging..
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While a bit counterintuitive to what we have been seeing on windows etc.
This phone is designed to use all of its ram.
It should not lag while doing it and apps that causes it to lag is probably dev error so make note of those apps and keep an eye out for it.
Ram is not being used unnecessarily android purposely stores cached in ram to allow it to load faster.

It is not the app's fault. I made a thread about this same exact behavior a couple weeks ago but not a single person responded. Jittery, laggy performance after exiting a game or other graphics intensive app. Only thing that would get rid of it was a reboot.
I got a PM from Samsung Support about it though which surprised me. I think they may be aware of some type of issue.
It happened for me after two different apps closing so it's not your app. And it doesn't happen after every closing either. The jittery behavior is not limited to the launcher either. Next time it happens open another app and scroll, like the browser. It was terribly choppy.
The good news is Samsung reached out to me which is always a positive sign for fixes.

Techweed said:
It is not the app's fault. I made a thread about this same exact behavior a couple weeks ago but not a single person responded. Jittery, laggy performance after exiting a game or other graphics intensive app. Only thing that would get rid of it was a reboot.
I got a PM from Samsung Support about it though which surprised me. I think they may be aware of some type of issue.
It happened for me after two different apps closing so it's not your app. And it doesn't happen after every closing either. The jittery behavior is not limited to the launcher either. Next time it happens open another app and scroll, like the browser. It was terribly choppy.
The good news is Samsung reached out to me which is always a positive sign for fixes.
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Yea, definitely not the apps fault. I've confirmed this by installing the same app on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S4; the app runs fine on those two devices without any lag as a result. It may be compatability issues with the newer qualcom chip, or possibly all of the bloatware on the phone weighing things down. These ideas are all speculation on my part. It's good to hear that Samsung is aware of the issue. Please keep us posted on anything new in regards to the issue. Just an FYI, I've replaced Nova Launcher with the Google now launcher, and for the last 3 days the phone has been running remarkably smoother. Hopefully lollipop will fix these issues.. Root would definitely be nice.

norcal61 said:
Yea, definitely not the apps fault. I've confirmed this by installing the same app on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S4; the app runs fine on those two devices without any lag as a result. It may be compatability issues with the newer qualcom chip, or possibly all of the bloatware on the phone weighing things down. These ideas are all speculation on my part. It's good to hear that Samsung is aware of the issue. Please keep us posted on anything new in regards to the issue. Just an FYI, I've replaced Nova Launcher with the Google now launcher, and for the last 3 days the phone has been running remarkably smoother. Hopefully lollipop will fix these issues.. Root would definitely be nice.
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If I get any updates I'll make sure to inform you all. I'm using Nova and it seems pretty fast. Were you having issues with it that made you switch to Google? Or is Google Launcher just that much better?

Techweed said:
If I get any updates I'll make sure to inform you all. I'm using Nova and it seems pretty fast. Were you having issues with it that made you switch to Google? Or is Google Launcher just that much better?
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I was having some minor issues with Nova Launcher. I was getting random crashes, where Nova itself was actually crashing, which was a first for me. I was also getting some lag while scrolling, opening and closing apps. When I use Nova Launcher, I tweak allot of the settings, so that may have had something to do with it, but I've used Nova Launcher for the last year and a half on my Galaxy S4 w/o any problems.. Google now launcher doesn't have any options for customization of any kind, but it has been very smooth and effective.
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