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Hi All,
After updates to latest version (from Dec 2013) i can pair it with my LG L9, but none of the notifcations go through (from smartphone to watch), also cannot see recent SMSs nor emails (gmail) on the watch, despite the proper apps are installed. And my smartphone gets really hot, and gets drained at a rate of 20-25% of battery per hour (my LG9 used to last approx 3-4 days when paired with SW2 before updates, now 4-5h seems to be the max...).
Looks like the Android companion app for SW2 is buggy. I've tried various things, including uninstallation of Smart Connect/SW2/all apps and installation from scratch, multiple phone reboots, multiple watch resets. Pairs fine, shows its paired, but no notifications and battery drain. Using it now as a regular watch in disconnected mode, but that i could have for $20 and not $200....
Any ideas/suggestions?
In December there were 2 updates: the first for the smartphone Smartwatch 2 app and also for the SW2 firmware.
A few days ago there was a second update of the Smartwatch 2 app, this time without a firmware upgrade.
Did you perform both those updates?
themissionimpossible said:
In December there were 2 updates: the first for the smartphone Smartwatch 2 app and also for the SW2 firmware.
A few days ago there was a second update of the Smartwatch 2 app, this time without a firmware upgrade.
Did you perform both those updates?
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I believe so. My current baseline is:
Smartwatch 2 app - 1.3.19 (from 13th Dec 2013)
Smart Connect - 5.4.8 (from 4th Oct 2013?)
Smartwatch firmware - 1.0.B.3.46/1.0.A.3.8 (with new watchfaces, stopwatch, etc).
My LG Swift L9 is on Android 4.1.2.
Cheers
tomaswoj
I have noticed too a higher drain of the phone battery and a higher consumption of the data.
I have the same software versions as you have and everything is like before. 4 to 5 days on a charge and no drain on the phone
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Tonio78370 said:
I have the same software versions as you have and everything is like before. 4 to 5 days on a charge and no drain on the phone
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Do you also have LG Swift L9? From the GT-N71000 note I assume not?
I've got a Note 2 and everything works fine
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So, on 17th december, smartconnect app updated itself. after that, every morning, when I start the smartwatch, it refuses to pair with the phone, and trying to connect to phone app unsuccessfully. The solution is to uninstall and install again the smart connect on the phone (Note 3). So, every update from Sony comes with a bug. on 3th december, when they have updated the watch's firmware, it refuses to stop vibrate when receiving notification, even if i disable vibrate from watch's menu. Conclusion; Sony, make one Big update to fix this bugs, and, then, stop upgrade it, it seems to me that you suck at develop firmware/software. I am thinking switching from Smartwatch to gear.
An update on draining the battery and overheating:
Apparently when Smartwatch2 app (module) is up and running, and showing on the phone that Smartwatch is connected - the /system/bin/btld (Bluetooth daemon) eats up 50% of CPU. That results in battery drain mentioned. When i only kill the smartwatch2 (and can keep the Smart connect up and running) - btld goes down, below the noticable levels (even when bluetooth is still enabled).
There seems to be some serious flaw in Smartwatch 2 app.... From various comments looks like it reveals itself mostly on LG phones.
A 'workaround' would be probably to go back to the older version of the Smartwatch 2 app (not the smartconnect, BUT smartwatch 2 module) - but i see no way to get it from anywhere... . Tried via Sony Mobile support forums, but till now with no success.
tomaswoj said:
An update on draining the battery and overheating:
Apparently when Smartwatch2 app (module) is up and running, and showing on the phone that Smartwatch is connected - the /system/bin/btld (Bluetooth daemon) eats up 50% of CPU. That results in battery drain mentioned. When i only kill the smartwatch2 (and can keep the Smart connect up and running) - btld goes down, below the noticable levels (even when bluetooth is still enabled).
There seems to be some serious flaw in Smartwatch 2 app.... From various comments looks like it reveals itself mostly on LG phones.
A 'workaround' would be probably to go back to the older version of the Smartwatch 2 app (not the smartconnect, BUT smartwatch 2 module) - but i see no way to get it from anywhere... . Tried via Sony Mobile support forums, but till now with no success.
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I have nothing to compare it too, because I only got my SW2 at Christmas, but the battery on my Asus Fonepad is draining much quicker now than it was previously. The battery drained overnight in 8 hours or so with no actual use of the tablet/phablet.
No prob. SW2 + Note10.1 (A412)
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There's an update dated Dec 28... anyone tried it yet?
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There's an update dated Dec 28... anyone tried it yet?
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SmartConnect? Yep, using it, no problem (sw2+Note10.1/a412).
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Hi everyone,
Coming from a xiaomi Mi band I had high expectations for the Sony watch's ability for fitness & activity tracking (steps, calories, distance, time, sleep). However, it has become clear that there seems to be no all-in-one solution available (yet). Since fitness & activity tracking for me is important purpose of this watch I decided to share my experiences with you and hope you will share yours with me. I will try and keep my experiences updated with the latest developments.
All-in-one
Currently there seem to be no apps availabe that are able to track activities, sporting sessions and sleep.
Sleep
Currently the only available working sleep tracker for the Smartwatch 3 seems to be Sleep as Android.
+ Tracks light sleep, deep sleep and time awake
+ Option to rate your sleep and use hashtags to add information like whether you drank alcohol, etc.
+ Detects snoring and wakes with vibration
- No automatic registration, needs to be manually started and stopped
- Heavy on battery, +/-25% per night
- Paid app
Update 24 september: somehow jawbone up seems to have a global way of sleeptracking. It will ask you every dat to conform your sleeping hours, which it seems to do pretty accurate. However no detailed sleep statistics.
Steps & activities
* Jawbone up
+ very nice interface & overview
+ converts steps into time and distance
- no sleep tracking
* Google Fit
- less nice design than jawbone
- inaccurate synchronisation of steps
- no conversion to time & distance
* Lifelog
+ very extensive tracking, not only fitness but also social activities, listening music, etc.
- cluttered design
- drains smartphone battery
- sleep tracking doesn't work for SWR50
Running with android wear & GPS integration
Endomondo
+ great interface
+ shows small map on watch
+ shows signal of GPS strength, does very accurate gps tracking
+ customizable views
- type of activity has to be set on smartphone
Runkeeper
+ simple interface
- Doesn't show GPS strength
- Type of activity has to be set on Phone
- Synchronisation of session time with Runkeeper Phone app is bugged (See update)
Ghostracer
+ simple interface
+ shows GPS strenght
+ interfaces with Runkeeper and/or Strava
+ activity type can be set on watch, but limited to running and cycling.
- Synchronisation of session time with Runkeeper Phone app is bugged (See update)
Update 24 september: I figured out that the differences in session times were caused by different algorithms/setting for auto pausing. So turning autopause off will fix the 'problem'.
My apps of preference are currently: Jawbone Up, Sleep as Android and ghostracer (syncing to runkeeper and strava).
I'm looking forward to reading your experiences with fitness apps on the Sony Smartwatch 3 and any additions to the app list are ofcourse very welcome!
I have been using fit and sleep as android. The latter does have wake detection but does not turn on and off automatically. To get that, you need to use tasker, but I have not wanted to do much with that because I have been working with my battery life.
I have noticed that sleep as android uses about 20-40% of my battery power.
I am on the latest update with tilt to wake on (but I sleep in theatre mode, the snorting detection still works well with that on), but WiFi on. As of now, I am using the stock kernel.
With all of that, I am getting about 30 hours of battery life.
Try also Sony Lifelog App. But GFit and LifeLog often fail to properly detect your activities.
Check out the UP app by jawbone. Works pretty well.
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Updated the topic start with my experiences so far.
sinvida said:
Updated the topic start with my experiences so far.
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Thank your for your detailed report !
I tried Jawbone Up and tracked my steps, but they differ from watch to phone. Can you please compare and tell me if they are the same ?
example today:
SW3: 4039 steps (40%)
Phone: 7341 steps (73%)
It seems like the phone tracks the steps itself but I disabled tracking at the first start of the jawbone app, so it should not track, only the watch should....
Please check it, thank you !
pietropizzi said:
Thank your for your detailed report !
I tried Jawbone Up and tracked my steps, but they differ from watch to phone. Can you please compare and tell me if they are the same ?
example today:
SW3: 4039 steps (40%)
Phone: 7341 steps (73%)
It seems like the phone tracks the steps itself but I disabled tracking at the first start of the jawbone app, so it should not track, only the watch should....
Please check it, thank you !
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Hi Pietropizzi,
I compared my steps in the smartwatch with the jawbone app and they matched 1:1. Do you have the up app with the purple icon?
sinvida said:
Hi Pietropizzi,
I compared my steps in the smartwatch with the jawbone app and they matched 1:1. Do you have the up app with the purple icon?
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Yes I do, I paired my watch at the first start and disabled steps tracking on the phone app. Thats strange....
edit : I rechecked the setting and saw that the motion sensor of the phone was activated. I disabled it now and will recheck the correct sync tomorrow !
Thanks for checking!
sinvida said:
Updated the topic start with my experiences so far.
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I disabled Google fit and am now using Jawbone Up for steps counting as you suggested. It's working very well and it seems very accurate at the moment.
I connected my new jawbone account with MyFitnessPal to sync burned calories disabling my Withings pulse Ox activity tracker sync.
I am using Sleep as Android for sleep tracking too and have prepared music, bluetooth headset and the Adidas X_cell heart rate band to work with Ghostracer.
The only thing missing is my first "smartphoneless" run
Thank you for sharing your experience
RolandCruise said:
I have prepared music, bluetooth headset and the Adidas X_cell heart rate band to work with Ghostracer.
The only thing missing is my first "smartphoneless" run
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Do you pair ghostracer with strava or runkeeper? In my experience synchronisation with runkeeper is buggy... Curious if it works well with strava.
I just made a 30 secs try at home and it uploaded to runkeeper without any problems. I hope I can try everything tomorrow during a run and then upload of the right amount of data. I'll report back here
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sinvida said:
Do you pair ghostracer with strava or runkeeper? In my experience synchronisation with runkeeper is buggy... Curious if it works well with strava.
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I figured out why the synchronisation was off. It was due to the way different running apps, such as ghostracer, runkeeper and strava deal with auto-pause. They all seem to use different algorithms explaining the differences. If you leave auto pause off in all maps than synchronisation from ghostracer to runkeeper/strava matches 100%. Problem solved!
Also a little update on jawbone up. It does seem to have some way of sleep tracking. Every dat it ask me to conform if I slept from x to y hours and mostly its pretty accurate. However no detailed sleep analysis. So sleep as Android is still required.
My experiences.
I'm using UP by Jawbone as my Fitbit replacement. I'm using Ghostracer on my watch to record runs, which is does using the onboard GPS, I have some concerns about its accuracy however. I run a 5k parkrun every Saturday, which for months my Garmin watch has recorded at 4.8 kms long, my watch Runkeeper tells me it's 5.2 kms! I tried Endomondo on the watch, but it seems to keep ending my run without my pressing any button!
I upload run data to Strava, which works well.
If you have a load of friends who compete against each other using Fitbit etc - then matchup (a website) allows you (And users of other fitness bands) to compete against each other.
Ghostracer works the best for me out of all the apps for running and it exports to runkeeper which is cool.
sinvida said:
Do you pair ghostracer with strava or runkeeper? In my experience synchronisation with runkeeper is buggy... Curious if it works well with strava.
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I use SW3 and upload all my ghostracer tracks to stravia. So far, it works flawlessly.
Matter-of-factly, FITSO (A new fitness app) is pretty decent for fitness activities. It has all the basic as well as premium features of Strava, Runkeeper, Runtastic etc in its free version (doesn't have a paid version yet).
I think you guys should give it a try. Here's the link for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jogo.play
iOS users can search on their own
I only use the watch for tracking my running with Endomondo.
I have been using Endomondo since late 2012. Until Nov. 2015 on my phone and then on the watch. It has so fare been working flawless, and actuality the GPS tracking seem to be more accurate on the watch than on the phone.
sinvida said:
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Runkeeper
+ simple interface
- Doesn't show GPS strength
- Type of activity has to be set on Phone
- Synchronisation of session time with Runkeeper Phone app is bugged (See update)
Ghostracer
+ simple interface
+ shows GPS strenght
+ interfaces with Runkeeper and/or Strava
+ activity type can be set on watch, but limited to running and cycling.
- Synchronisation of session time with Runkeeper Phone app is bugged (See update)
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Also...
Runkeeper:
* does not show heart rate stats on AW
* does not allow customization of AW display
Ghostracer:
* displays heart rate stats on AW display
* allows customization of AW display
I also have noticed that there is big difference of the running reading with the watch and the phone. For example, I ran 2km. on my phone (using Nike running app), and on my phone it was 1.65km. I don't know which device to trust. But your opinions here are great and helpful.
Looking for a simple app to watch heartbeat?
Using a bluetooth brest strap like Polar H7?
An alert if the heart rate is too slow or too fast is usefull and necessary?
Works standalone?
Look here Heart Rate - Sport Gear + Wear :good:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pnn.android.sport_gear_tracker
Is it just me who's getting this issue?
Play services seems to be staying awake constantly.
See attached screenshots.
I'd like to track my daily activities via the watch, steps, running etc which Lifelog does fine for me, just don't see why the battery usage is so high?
The devices don't stay connected through the day, is this why?
Where do you see lifelog in your graph ?
OnePlus 3, Oxygen 4.0.2, Android 7.0
Recently, when I'm running, my workout app is killed after a few minutes. I t happens with both Endomondo and RunKeeper.
I tried marking the app as "Not optimized" in battery settings, and also "locking" it in the Recents screen, but it does not help.
It seems like the issue started with the upgrade to Android 7.0
Any idea how to avoid it?
Hello all,
I'm using the latest C.47 version of Oxygen OS 12 on my EU OnePlus 9 Pro, and when using GPS tracking software, after a while it always causes the device to reboot in some way. This means that when I bring the device back from standby that the device gives the message that after a reboot the PIN needs to be entered. However, it only asks for the device PIN and not the SIM pin. So it cannot be a complete reboot. Of course, the tracking software was also terminated.
The problem occurs with the following apps:
- Ski Tracks https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.corecoders.skitracks
- Adidas Running https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runtastic.android
- GPS Logger https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.basicairdata.graziano.gpslogger
I assume that (almost) all GPS trackers are affected, but I only tested the three above. Under C.44 I did not have this problem yet.
Battery optimization was of course turned off for the apps. Additionally, the apps were locked and background tasks were allowed. But after all, it is the whole device that crashes and not just the app that quits in the background.
Does anyone know the problem?
Best Regards,
Stefan
FredericDelany said:
Hello all,
I'm using the latest C.47 version of Oxygen OS 12 on my EU OnePlus 9 Pro, and when using GPS tracking software, after a while it always causes the device to reboot in some way. This means that when I bring the device back from standby that the device gives the message that after a reboot the PIN needs to be entered. However, it only asks for the device PIN and not the SIM pin. So it cannot be a complete reboot. Of course, the tracking software was also terminated.
The problem occurs with the following apps:
- Ski Tracks https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.corecoders.skitracks
- Adidas Running https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runtastic.android
- GPS Logger https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.basicairdata.graziano.gpslogger
I assume that (almost) all GPS trackers are affected, but I only tested the three above. Under C.44 I did not have this problem yet.
Battery optimization was of course turned off for the apps. Additionally, the apps were locked and background tasks were allowed. But after all, it is the whole device that crashes and not just the app that quits in the background.
Does anyone know the problem?
Best Regards,
Stefan
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I had a similar behaviour with Waze on crDroid 8.2, after it happened a few times, I quickly noticed the phone was unusually hot. Have you noticed any high temperature when it happened to you?
No, it does not get hot und does not consume much battery :-/