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Today was the first time I let my phone's battery drain down to nothing and it died completely while i was on a phone call. But when it died, the screen went black as it should, but it refused to charge. The light didnt come on and it wouldnt power on. I had to pull the battery and then it booted to a 'critically low battery' notification on the screen. Has anyone experienced this kind of freezing when the battery is just on the verge of dying?
I don't have this specific issue, but definitely power draining problems on my Focus. I let it charge overnight - 10+ hours plugged in. That should be more than enough for a nice, full charge. Well it's been unplugged from the charger for a little over 3 hours now and it's already down 30%. All I did was listen to 4 songs on the Zune on the way to the office this morning.
Same thing happened yesterday. So two days in a row isn't looking good. By early afternoon yesterday it was almost drained.
I haven't even made any phone calls with this yet! I can only imagine what a handful of 30 minute phone calls would do.
hmm... faulty battery/phone? maybe take it back to the store and ask for an exchange?
Is there any way to calibrate the battery? Such as completely drain it, fully charge it then look around the settings menu for a way to delete any kind of battery stats file?
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I was thinking the same thing, about exchanging it. I'm going to give it more time and really put it through some paces to verify. I've got until the end of November to exchange it.
This was all without any Wifi on too
I've noticed my LG-C900 also seems like a battery hog, and takes forever to charge. The Samsung SGH-i917 is a little better, but both of them have a tendency to run out of battery quickly if I forget to charge them overnight. It's a little worrisome to me.
I don't measure smartphone battery length systematically, but my Motorola Droid seems to do a lot better, and my HTC G1 has gone all week without being charged (although the graphics aren't nearly as good, the processor doesn't have to work as hard even to change menus).
On the other hand, the advantage is in both of those phones, it is much easier to change batteries, making it possible to carry an extra battery and switch halfway through the day, something you could never do with an iphone.
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hmm... faulty battery/phone? maybe take it back to the store and ask for an exchange?
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That would probably be a good idea.
you could look at the wifi status , turn it off when you don't need it .
wifi is "on" as default , if I don't turn it off my batt is dying really quick .
I didn't look at it but maybe you can also turn off the GPS .
The first Focus I got shipped from AT&T refused to take a charge. You could plug it in and the icon would change to a plug, but it wouldn't charge up at all. I replaced it at a store and the new one is perfect. Charges quickly and lasts much longer than my old Fuze. I don't know if it was the phone or the battery, but I'd just get a replacement.
For some reason my HD7 won't charge from PC USB ports-- it's been "critically low" in the morning the two times I left it plugged into a PC overnight (orange light on, but apparently not charging quickly enough).
The ports work fine charging my HD2 and iPhones-- apparently not with the HD7 though. Only dedicated AC adapters feeding a full 1A have worked so far-- not hugely inconvenient, but kind of odd.
my G1 and HD2 would exibit this behavior when on my car's USB port when the charge was low enough, and the last system update that came down for the G1 would just slow the drain when attached to my car.
The first trip with the HD7 in the car > home, it died on the car's USB port, very slowly. After its first full charge it does accept a charge from the car. I think it may have issues once it gets low enough just like the HD2. I think it may be the output, I don't remember how much power Honda supplies at the USB port, but obviously not enough for all devices. All my ports on my laptop, desktop and WHS, except the front ports on the WHS and the desktop, charge these 3 devices handily, the front ports on the home server and the desktop must only provide minimal power, I've had USB sticks complain and drop speed on these.
I posted this a week ago elsewhere but thought you guys might find it of interest too.
After personally experiencing having my phone (A Verizon GN) end up LESS charged than I started out with on a 1 hour trip with navigation on while plugged in, I decided to run some tests.
The first was to see how much power the Galaxy Nexus could draw from the USB connection. This turns out to be about 4.5W. (0.9A at 5V)
(Edit: Yes I tied the data lines together so the GN knew it was hooked to a charger and not a PC)
I ran all kinds of applications, benchmarks, turned on all the networking, GPS. Just sitting there idle or in sleep mode it only drew 3.5W but I could push it up to 4.5W which is fairly close to the max most USB adapters can supply. My PS can deliver 8W so it had plenty of power to offer. So no matter how powerful your charger is, the GN simply won't draw more than 4.5W. Forget about those 3A chargers.
The next test was a bit trickier. I wanted to measure how much power the GN was drawing from the battery. Tiny contacts and an expensive phone made me a little cautious but I figured out a fairly safe way of doing this, and here are the results.
In sleep mode it only drew 0.04W with occasional spikes of 1W.
Powered on and idle it averaged 3W.
Running a CPU benchmark it stayed at 4W.
Downloading a large file over WiFi got a steady 4.2W.
Now the real test... Google Maps.
This varied a LOT. Minimum was 4W with some steady peaks of 5.1W!
That seems to be the problem. The GN can draw more power from the battery than the charging system can provide. In the real world the power draw is going to be worse because of all the switching of cell towers and map data downloading. I wasn't about to take my very delicate wiring job on the road, so will just have to guess at the final numbers, but just sitting still was enough to overpower the charger.
I doubt this can be a software fix where a hardware register can be changed to let the charging system draw 1.5A or something.
This also means that a 2A or 3A power supply is not going to help. As long as you have a 1A supply, that's all the GN will take. Do make sure it's wired right or it will only draw 0.5A, and be warned some USB jacks on stereos and computers might only give you 0.1A.
Now on to something else... the AMOLED screen! Does keeping it black really save power? The answer is... sort of!
I ran several tests with the device in airplane mode and just showing a solid color on the screen on the dimmest, and brightest screen settings.
Dim black: 1.8W
Dim white: 2.0W
Bright black: 1.9W
Bright white: 2.9W
For extra fun...
Bright Red: 2.5W
Bright Green: 2.6W
Bright Blue: 2.8W
So if you run the screen at the dimmest setting, it really doesn't matter what the screen is showing. If you run it at the brightest... then white really does draw more power. A lot more. If you can set Google Maps to display the screen mostly black, that could save a significant amount of power during navigation.
I was unable to find a way of turning off the display without putting the phone to sleep, so no idea how much of that power shown above is due to the screen and how much to running the CPU and all the other functions.
Anyway, I still have my spare battery rigged up so if you have any other good ideas for tests I can try them out.
Summary... under extreme battery drain conditions even the best USB charger can't keep up, but all you need to do is reduce the power draw a small amount and you will be back in the positive. Make sure your charger is supplying a full amp. Cheap chargers and cables without the data lines shorted will only give 0.5A and that is by far NOT enough to keep a GN charged while doing anything at all.
The screen measurement is awesome, good to see some real numbers (even if its not 100% accurate).
Also some things you do can still be done with the screen off. Like downloading a large file - or playing music. You could easily compare downloading a file and/or playing music with screen on or off to see the difference. Another interesting thing would be downloading via wifi vs download on 3g and LTE
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Also some things you do can still be done with the screen off. Like downloading a large file - or playing music. You could easily compare downloading a file and/or playing music with screen on or off to see the difference. Another interesting thing would be downloading via wifi vs download on 3g and LTE
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And maybe also playing a HD (1280x720) video in Dice Player with full brightness...
It's important to point out that when your device uses more battery than it is able to recharge while being charged at the same time, then you are prone to sleep of death problem. I had exactly that happen on a ship to Finland. I only realized it the next day, once my battery ran down to percentages it was while I was on a ship and it froze. After reboot, I had lost up to 20% battery.
So I would avoid using the device while it is charging, but battery still runs down.
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It's important to point out that when your device uses more battery than it is able to recharge while being charged at the same time, then you are prone to sleep of death problem.
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My previous Android phone had this issue. If it got discharged too far it would shut down and wouldn't charge back up. I had to manually hook up power to the battery to kick start it. In fact... my former phone before that (Windows Mobile!) had the same issue! Seems to be a common design flaw.
iansmith said:
I posted this a week ago elsewhere but thought you guys might find it of interest too.
After personally experiencing having my phone (A Verizon GN) end up LESS charged than I started out with on a 1 hour trip with navigation on while plugged in, I decided to run some tests.
The first was to see how much power the Galaxy Nexus could draw from the USB connection. This turns out to be about 4.5W. (0.9A at 5V)
(Edit: Yes I tied the data lines together so the GN knew it was hooked to a charger and not a PC)
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Saw this when you posted it "elsewhere" a week or so ago. Definitely might get more love here though. I love the idea of people or google developing more black background apps and a night mode of Maps / Navigation and Gmail. Seeing these numbers it really would make a difference.
Very interesting write up! I have a question though...you mention shorting the data lines to get a full amp. Is there a tutorial somewhere that explains how to do this? I will be taking a long road trip (like 3600 miles round trip long) this summer and will be using GPS a lot so I would sure like to do that. I would be running a Rocketfish car charger-to-USB adapter and using a USB cord plugged into that and then run that to the car dock. Thanks.
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Very interesting write up! I have a question though...you mention shorting the data lines to get a full amp. Is there a tutorial somewhere that explains how to do this? I will be taking a long road trip (like 3600 miles round trip long) this summer and will be using GPS a lot so I would sure like to do that. I would be running a Rocketfish car charger-to-USB adapter and using a USB cord plugged into that and then run that to the car dock. Thanks.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VYBCAY/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
These cables don't have a data line, it'll get you the full amp. Big difference when I use it in my car vs a normal cable.
When we use the provided cable and Samsung USB adapter we still get 1A correct?
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When we use the provided cable and Samsung USB adapter we still get 1A correct?
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Yes, the provided adapter gives out a full 1 amp and shorts the data lines so the phone knows it can draw as much current as it can handle.
A few days ago I purchased Galaxy S II official vehicle dock, so today I decided to give it a try. But to the problem I ran into, was that when I was using GPS (CoPilot) the phone shows that its charging, but it actually slowly discharges it. Well first I thought that, my car cigarette lighter plug didn't give it enough juice, but then I tried the same thing with the phone connected to regular power outlet using the original charger. The result was that the phone shows that its charging, but the percentage doesn't go up or down, it just idles at the percentage point, when i connected it to charger. I'm pretty sure it should charge the phone, even if I use GPS and the screen is switched on. My second thought was that the phone was overheating due to hot weather, but im not sure about this.
The only time I actually got the phone charging through the cigarette plug, was when the phone's screen was switched off.
So my question is what should I do? Is the dock connector damaged or something? should I consider changing it or is there some other problem? I have read all the topics about this issue and its seems, that there is no firm fix for this. Im really running out of ideas.
(The phone was charged to 80% when I encountered this problem.)
About phone:
Android version: 4.0.4
Kernel version: 3.0.33-Siyah-v3.3.1
Resurrection version 2.1
CurrentWidget stats:
Running GPS and screen switched on
638mA - when connected to regular power outlet
640mA - when connected to cigarette lighter plug
4.071V
Temp. 51C
I have actually the same issue, I just presumed that the car charger doesn't produce enough charge to actually charge.
Madiz said:
A few days ago I purchased Galaxy S II official vehicle dock, so today I decided to give it a try. But to the problem I ran into, was that when I was using GPS (CoPilot) the phone shows that its charging, but it actually slowly discharges it. Well first I thought that, my car cigarette lighter plug didn't give it enough juice, but then I tried the same thing with the phone connected to regular power outlet using the original charger. The result was that the phone shows that its charging, but the percentage doesn't go up or down, it just idles at the percentage point, when i connected it to charger. I'm pretty sure it should charge the phone, even if I use GPS and the screen is switched on. My second thought was that the phone was overheating due to hot weather, but im not sure about this.
The only time I actually got the phone charging through the cigarette plug, was when the phone's screen was switched off.
So my question is what should I do? Is the dock connector damaged or something? should I consider changing it or is there some other problem? I have read all the topics about this issue and its seems, that there is no firm fix for this. Im really running out of ideas.
(The phone was charged to 80% when I encountered this problem.)
About phone:
Android version: 4.0.4
Kernel version: 3.0.33-Siyah-v3.3.1
Resurrection version 2.1
CurrentWidget stats:
Running GPS and screen switched on
638mA - when connected to regular power outlet
640mA - when connected to cigarette lighter plug
4.071V
Temp. 51C
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I can only give you 3 guesses:
1- Maybe it's some sort of weird software bug (maybe the ICS 4.0.4 + SiyahKernel combination or something);
2- It's simply the battery chip going crazy (whenever my battery indicator seems to go nuts I simply reset the fuel gauge with ExTweaks, you might wanna give it a try); and
3- A bad or damaged car-plug charger (since you have that problem when charging from the dock and directly from an original charger, I don't think it's a bad dock).
I'm saying that because I use the original car dock quite a lot - almost always for usage as a GPS Navigator (NDrive 11) with GPS, Data and WiFi Connection always on (too lazy to turn WiFi off while in the car) and usually with an increased brightness (around 50 - 70%) and even in those battery unfriendly conditions (GPS on and locked, WiFi and Data on, high brightness, etc, etc, etc) it still charges the battery. It takes a while to get a full charge, but it gets fully charged eventually. And I sometimes use the car-plug charger directly in the phone, when I'm not using my S2 as a GPS Navigator.
I would suggest you to try and use another ORIGINAL car-plug charger to check - or maybe go back to whoever sold you the dock and get it replaced or something...
Hope this helps. Best regards mate.
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I can only give you 3 guesses:
1- Maybe it's some sort of weird software bug (maybe the ICS 4.0.4 + SiyahKernel combination or something);
2- It's simply the battery chip going crazy (whenever my battery indicator seems to go nuts I simply reset the fuel gauge with ExTweaks, you might wanna give it a try); and
3- A bad or damaged car-plug charger (since you have that problem when charging from the dock and directly from an original charger, I don't think it's a bad dock).
I'm saying that because I use the original car dock quite a lot - almost always for usage as a GPS Navigator (NDrive 11) with GPS, Data and WiFi Connection always on (too lazy to turn WiFi off while in the car) and usually with an increased brightness (around 50 - 70%) and even in those battery unfriendly conditions (GPS on and locked, WiFi and Data on, high brightness, etc, etc, etc) it still charges the battery. It takes a while to get a full charge, but it gets fully charged eventually. And I sometimes use the car-plug charger directly in the phone, when I'm not using my S2 as a GPS Navigator.
I would suggest you to try and use another ORIGINAL car-plug charger to check - or maybe go back to whoever sold you the dock and get it replaced or something...
Hope this helps. Best regards mate.
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Thanks, I thought that this had something to to with some factory blunder, but if you're saying that it works for you, then I'll give it a try and see if I can figure out what the problem is.
Anybody have an idea where to buy in México?
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Michaelias said:
Anybody have an idea where to buy in México?
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You can buy it on eBay - there are a lot of UK stores with very high positive reputation - I bought mine from one in UK, and it arrived about 3 weeks after the purchase (and keep in mind that the brazilian customs is recognized worldwide as one of the slowest, most burocratic in the planet). It was worth the wait, though, as the minimum value of the original vehicle dock sold "officially" in Brazil was more than twice the purchase and shipping costs from buying it in eBay...
Your problem, is everyone's problem.
This phone will only charge at 750ma, and not 1A like most smart phones.
You can change this by rooting the deivce and installing a different kernal.
Should you do this, you may notice the phone getting hotter whilst charging, and I imagine your battery's overall lifespan will be shorter,
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Hi Guys,
I am having a serious problem with my HTC One X, it doesn't turn on (I have tried long pressing the power button and long pressing the power button + Vol Down combo) and it doesn't charge (the LED indicator doesn't turn on).
Perhaps it will help if I explain what happened before this:
I was on a train watching an episode of a TV show, a 720p MKV file, in MX Player, when I noticed that my battery was at around 50%, nothing unusual yet. So I decided to bring out my external battery pack and charge my phone. The external battery pack has a capacity of 7800mAh and has two USB outputs, one is labelled as 1A and the other in labelled at 1.5A. The night before I had tried charging my phone from both outputs, and to my surprise, my phone told me it would take 2 hours to charge when it was plugged into the 1A output, and 3 hours to charge when it was plugged into the 1.5A output.
Anyway, after I plugged my phone into the battery pack, I continued watching this video on MX Player. For some strange reason, the video crashed, it stayed at the same frame, even though MX Player told me that the video was still playing and the time was moving forward. I thought this was strange so I decided to rewind a few seconds. The animation that comes up on MX Player when you move forwards or backwards showed up - [10:00] - 5 seconds, (or something like that). The video file stayed on the same frame. I cant remember if the phone turned off by itself, but what might have happened was that I held the power button for upwards of 10 seconds and then it turned off.
At first, I thought that my phone had crashed and would just reboot, as had happened to me a few times previously.
What is strange is that my phone was on around 50% charge, so I don't know why it wouldn't turn on again.
The end result was that my phone was dead, it wouldn't charge or turn on. The red LED indicator to show that it was charging did not turn on. I tried holding the power button for upwards of 10 seconds, but nothing happened, the three lights at the bottom of the screen didn't blink. I tried holding the power button and volume down button for upwards of 10 seconds, but nothing happened here either.
I bought the HTC One X in July of last year on Three UK, so it has been more than 1 year since I bought the phone, but less than 2 years, so I am not sure if I am still covered under warranty, as I already had it fixed once, earlier this year.
In addition, my phone is rooted and on a custom rom, the latest CM10.1.2 stable build to be precise. I'm pretty sure this voids my warranty, however, my phone is dead, so perhaps the repair guys won't be able to work out that I was on a custom rom.
I appreciate any help and advice that you guys can give me!
Thank you so much,
~DarkyHero
DarkyHero said:
Hi Guys,
I am having a serious problem with my HTC One X, it doesn't turn on (I have tried long pressing the power button and long pressing the power button + Vol Down combo) and it doesn't charge (the LED indicator doesn't turn on).
Perhaps it will help if I explain what happened before this:
I was on a train watching an episode of a TV show, a 720p MKV file, in MX Player, when I noticed that my battery was at around 50%, nothing unusual yet. So I decided to bring out my external battery pack and charge my phone. The external battery pack has a capacity of 7800mAh and has two USB outputs, one is labelled as 1A and the other in labelled at 1.5A. The night before I had tried charging my phone from both outputs, and to my surprise, my phone told me it would take 2 hours to charge when it was plugged into the 1A output, and 3 hours to charge when it was plugged into the 1.5A output.
Anyway, after I plugged my phone into the battery pack, I continued watching this video on MX Player. For some strange reason, the video crashed, it stayed at the same frame, even though MX Player told me that the video was still playing and the time was moving forward. I thought this was strange so I decided to rewind a few seconds. The animation that comes up on MX Player when you move forwards or backwards showed up - [10:00] - 5 seconds, (or something like that). The video file stayed on the same frame. I cant remember if the phone turned off by itself, but what might have happened was that I held the power button for upwards of 10 seconds and then it turned off.
At first, I thought that my phone had crashed and would just reboot, as had happened to me a few times previously.
What is strange is that my phone was on around 50% charge, so I don't know why it wouldn't turn on again.
The end result was that my phone was dead, it wouldn't charge or turn on. The red LED indicator to show that it was charging did not turn on. I tried holding the power button for upwards of 10 seconds, but nothing happened, the three lights at the bottom of the screen didn't blink. I tried holding the power button and volume down button for upwards of 10 seconds, but nothing happened here either.
I bought the HTC One X in July of last year on Three UK, so it has been more than 1 year since I bought the phone, but less than 2 years, so I am not sure if I am still covered under warranty, as I already had it fixed once, earlier this year.
In addition, my phone is rooted and on a custom rom, the latest CM10.1.2 stable build to be precise. I'm pretty sure this voids my warranty, however, my phone is dead, so perhaps the repair guys won't be able to work out that I was on a custom rom.
I appreciate any help and advice that you guys can give me!
Thank you so much,
~DarkyHero
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Well first of all they will figure out ,when they boot the phone, that you voided it and secondly does the phone over heat because that could have had anything to do with it and ,especially since your in the uk, You should have got a secondary warranty like
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But now the best you can do is buy the warranty and wait a month as thats the minimum and then tell them that your phone has broke they will then fix it or give you a replacement...OR what you have done is burn out the battery the best option for this is to replace it but then again these are your choices insurance, or battery
fader910 said:
Well first of all they will figure out ,when they boot the phone, that you voided it and secondly does the phone over heat because that could have had anything to do with it and ,especially since your in the uk, You should have got a secondary warranty like
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But now the best you can do is buy the warranty and wait a month as thats the minimum and then tell them that your phone has broke they will then fix it or give you a replacement...OR what you have done is burn out the battery the best option for this is to replace it but then again these are your choices insurance, or battery
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You say that they will figure out I voided the warranty when they boot the phone, however, the problem is that I am unable to boot the phone. If I sent my phone in to repair to Three UK, would that be the best possible option? I have done some research and I have two years of warranty.
http://dl4.htc.com/Web_materials/Manual/Warranty/Android/1015_A_WarrantyCard_76x126.pdf
Would I still be able to get my phone repaired for free?
Thanks,
~DarkyHero
DarkyHero said:
You say that they will figure out I voided the warranty when they boot the phone, however, the problem is that I am unable to boot the phone. If I sent my phone in to repair to Three UK, would that be the best possible option? I have done some research and I have two years of warranty.
http://dl4.htc.com/Web_materials/Manual/Warranty/Android/1015_A_WarrantyCard_76x126.pdf
Would I still be able to get my phone repaired for free?
Thanks,
~DarkyHero
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Battery failure is a hardware fault...MOST places will accept a return even if your bootloader is unlocked and custom ROM's installed since the software has little effect on an out and out hardware failure.
Secondly, if the phone will not boot there is no danger of them even getting that far.
Lastly, if it is still under warranty, return it for repair/replacement.
It was likely your external battery pack that has killed your phone.
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Battery failure is a hardware fault...MOST places will accept a return even if your bootloader is unlocked and custom ROM's installed since the software has little effect on an out and out hardware failure.
Secondly, if the phone will not boot there is no danger of them even getting that far.
Lastly, if it is still under warranty, return it for repair/replacement.
It was likely your external battery pack that has killed your phone.
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Thanks so much for your help!
I had a little ordeal with Three UK the last time my phone broke. My screen died, which was clearly a hardware fault, however, they wanted to charge me ~£80 because I had unlocked the bootloader. I called them many times, but the customer service was a pain in the ass, and in the end they dropped the charge to ~£40, even though I had told them repeatedly that it was a hardware problem. In the end, the phone they returned to me 'after fixing' still had a dead screen, so they gave me a refurbished replacement for free (after calling customer service)
If they fix the battery, perhaps by replacing it, will my phone boot then? Because if it does, surely they will see that I am rooted and on a custom rom?
Out of curiosity, how would my external battery pack kill my phone? Would 1.5A kill my phone? I think 1A is what the voltage should be.
Thanks,
~DarkyHero
DarkyHero said:
Thanks so much for your help!
I had a little ordeal with Three UK the last time my phone broke. My screen died, which was clearly a hardware fault, however, they wanted to charge me ~£80 because I had unlocked the bootloader. I called them many times, but the customer service was a pain in the ass, and in the end they dropped the charge to ~£40, even though I had told them repeatedly that it was a hardware problem. In the end, the phone they returned to me 'after fixing' still had a dead screen, so they gave me a refurbished replacement for free (after calling customer service)
If they fix the battery, perhaps by replacing it, will my phone boot then? Because if it does, surely they will see that I am rooted and on a custom rom?
Out of curiosity, how would my external battery pack kill my phone? Would 1.5A kill my phone? I think 1A is what the voltage should be.
Thanks,
~DarkyHero
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Well Amps and Volts aren't the same thing.
And the HOX will only accept a maximum input of 1A anyways, regardless of the output of the charger. But if your charger surges enough you can burn out that charging circuit.
Now...an external battery pack charger operates similarly to a universal mains charger in that it can provide a range of voltage, amperage and wattage outputs. You will want to make sure your external pack is capable of providing the correct voltage and amperage output. In the case of the HOX (and about a million other things) it's 5V @ 1A. So it is very likely to be compatible.
BUT...SOME external packs HAVE been known to surge and completely overload the charging circuit of the device(s) connected. I am not sure of brands or anything like that, but it's generally a result of poor internal design and or/components, and it SOUNDS like that is exactly what happened.
If 3 UK are being b*stards i'd dig out the actual paperwork warranty and have a look see at the T&C's. Who is liable for what, when, and how much.
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Well Amps and Volts aren't the same thing.
And the HOX will only accept a maximum input of 1A anyways, regardless of the output of the charger. But if your charger surges enough you can burn out that charging circuit.
Now...an external battery pack charger operates similarly to a universal mains charger in that it can provide a range of voltage, amperage and wattage outputs. You will want to make sure your external pack is capable of providing the correct voltage and amperage output. In the case of the HOX (and about a million other things) it's 5V @ 1A. So it is very likely to be compatible.
BUT...SOME external packs HAVE been known to surge and completely overload the charging circuit of the device(s) connected. I am not sure of brands or anything like that, but it's generally a result of poor internal design and or/components, and it SOUNDS like that is exactly what happened.
If 3 UK are being b*stards i'd dig out the actual paperwork warranty and have a look see at the T&C's. Who is liable for what, when, and how much.
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Voltage thrills, current kills
I bought my external battery pack at some market stall, so I can believe that it may have been faulty. However, having said that, my HOX was able to charge the previous night from both 1A and 1.5A outputs.
What story should I tell Three UK when I contact them to ask them to repair my phone? Last time my display broke, I told them that it was a hardware fault, but they basically ignored me and told me something else (they were being complete wankers) -_- and tried to charge me anyway
What will they do if they fix the phone? Will they replace the battery? And if they do, will they be able to boot and see that I have rooted?
Thanks,
~DarkyHero
DarkyHero said:
Voltage thrills, current kills
I bought my external battery pack at some market stall, so I can believe that it may have been faulty. However, having said that, my HOX was able to charge the previous night from both 1A and 1.5A outputs.
What story should I tell Three UK when I contact them to ask them to repair my phone? Last time my display broke, I told them that it was a hardware fault, but they basically ignored me and told me something else (they were being complete wankers) -_- and tried to charge me anyway
What will they do if they fix the phone? Will they replace the battery? And if they do, will they be able to boot and see that I have rooted?
Thanks,
~DarkyHero
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Bump, please help, any help would be greatly appreciated
DarkyHero said:
Bump, please help, any help would be greatly appreciated
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Firstly, stop bumping. Grinding is far superior
OK, so it seems to me that you bought some crappy Chinese half made battery pack, which lasted all of one day before turning into a raving phone killer.
Seems to me your battery is fried, not your internal components and probably not your NAND, but I don't have a good knowledge of how the HOX is engineered to handle very high surges. I have no idea if all your internal stuff is fried too.
Contact 3 and see if they will replace for free. If not go to a normal repair shop and ask for a full diagnostic + repair. That way they can't charge you for a procedure that doesn't fix your phone.
Good Luck and let us know what happens
Kartik
kartik50 said:
Firstly, stop bumping. Grinding is far superior
OK, so it seems to me that you bought some crappy Chinese half made battery pack, which lasted all of one day before turning into a raving phone killer.
Seems to me your battery is fried, not your internal components and probably not your NAND, but I don't have a good knowledge of how the HOX is engineered to handle very high surges. I have no idea if all your internal stuff is fried too.
Contact 3 and see if they will replace for free. If not go to a normal repair shop and ask for a full diagnostic + repair. That way they can't charge you for a procedure that doesn't fix your phone.
Good Luck and let us know what happens
Kartik
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No, it was a really nice battery pack, 7800 mAh battery pack with an aluminium case. And the guy selling them was charging his Samsung Galaxy Note 2 on one of them, and even let me charge my phone on it. Before I left with the battery pack, he made me charge my phone with it to check that it worked, and it did.
Are you sure about full diagnostic + repair? How much would that cost?
Guys, what part(s) do you think are broken with my phone?
If it is just the battery, I might consider buying one and replacing it myself.
fix for htc one x red light
DarkyHero said:
Hi Guys,
I am having a serious problem with my HTC One X, it doesn't turn on (I have tried long pressing the power button and long pressing the power button + Vol Down combo) and it doesn't charge (the LED indicator doesn't turn on).
Perhaps it will help if I explain what happened before this:
I was on a train watching an episode of a TV show, a 720p MKV file, in MX Player, when I noticed that my battery was at around 50%, nothing unusual yet. So I decided to bring out my external battery pack and charge my phone. The external battery pack has a capacity of 7800mAh and has two USB outputs, one is labelled as 1A and the other in labelled at 1.5A. The night before I had tried charging my phone from both outputs, and to my surprise, my phone told me it would take 2 hours to charge when it was plugged into the 1A output, and 3 hours to charge when it was plugged into the 1.5A output.
Anyway, after I plugged my phone into the battery pack, I continued watching this video on MX Player. For some strange reason, the video crashed, it stayed at the same frame, even though MX Player told me that the video was still playing and the time was moving forward. I thought this was strange so I decided to rewind a few seconds. The animation that comes up on MX Player when you move forwards or backwards showed up - [10:00] - 5 seconds, (or something like that). The video file stayed on the same frame. I cant remember if the phone turned off by itself, but what might have happened was that I held the power button for upwards of 10 seconds and then it turned off.
At first, I thought that my phone had crashed and would just reboot, as had happened to me a few times previously.
What is strange is that my phone was on around 50% charge, so I don't know why it wouldn't turn on again.
The end result was that my phone was dead, it wouldn't charge or turn on. The red LED indicator to show that it was charging did not turn on. I tried holding the power button for upwards of 10 seconds, but nothing happened, the three lights at the bottom of the screen didn't blink. I tried holding the power button and volume down button for upwards of 10 seconds, but nothing happened here either.
I bought the HTC One X in July of last year on Three UK, so it has been more than 1 year since I bought the phone, but less than 2 years, so I am not sure if I am still covered under warranty, as I already had it fixed once, earlier this year.
In addition, my phone is rooted and on a custom rom, the latest CM10.1.2 stable build to be precise. I'm pretty sure this voids my warranty, however, my phone is dead, so perhaps the repair guys won't be able to work out that I was on a custom rom.
I appreciate any help and advice that you guys can give me!
Thank you so much,
~DarkyHero
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Hi
I`ve had this problem a number of times
Simple fix - plug into your pc - hold power button and down volume button for 15 seconds - the low screen will flash a few times - then plug back into the power supply - check to see if red light flashing and leave for 10 mins - then power up - be warned, let it charge up before using or will crash again
Same thing just happened to me now except that I was just playing Candy Crush and noticed around 51% battery, all of the sudden game froze and tried to reboot a couple of times but didn't work and finally phone got completely turn off and couldn't turn it back on, when I plug it in for charge no charging indication
Same problem here: One X doesn't turn on, not even charging indication. Still, the phone gets a bit warm when connected to the wall charger - so there is a charging current, but with no effect..?!
Is there a known solution to this problem? Exchanging battery/logic board/...?
UPDATE: Changing the logic/mother board did the trick for me. Now I'm back with a working phone, but all the data is lost. Just exchanging the battery or some other part (like power button) did not suffice in my case (tried everything).
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Hi
I`ve had this problem a number of times
Simple fix - plug into your pc - hold power button and down volume button for 15 seconds - the low screen will flash a few times - then plug back into the power supply - check to see if red light flashing and leave for 10 mins - then power up - be warned, let it charge up before using or will crash again
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I had this problem like you, I did what you did for first times, then no way to charge it or power it on, I ended changeing battery, it worked for few weeks, then same problem again and this time a hear some strange bee sounds from charger.
The bee sounds are only for this one, when i plug in another x one I hear nothing.
So..? what to do now..
LE
I removed the battery and put it back and now it works
Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
sounds like a battery + charger issue
aLvindeBa said:
Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
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You must verify the voltage output of the car adapter you were using with the phone , remember that the fact it has a micro USB does not mean its designed to the specs of your phone, sounds like the battery went berserk after it was charged with that car adapter ... you should not tinker more with the phone and get a new battery and the original charger for it , if you can or are able to ...
Frank Hilario said:
You must verify the voltage output of the car adapter you were using with the phone , remember that the fact it has a micro USB does not mean its designed to the specs of your phone, sounds like the battery went berserk after it was charged with that car adapter ... you should not tinker more with the phone and get a new battery and the original charger for it , if you can or are able to ...
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Thank you Frank. I already tought nobody will reply to this. So you think if I buy new battery and charger cell phone will start to work?
Car charger was combined, USB cable from Nokia and car adapter is for let's say every cell phone. I have original Samsung Nexus wall charger I got with that cell phone and it charges the battery it just wont turn on the phone. Either PC doesnt want to reconize it, tried with Device Manager to see if is there anything but no. Thank you again for your reply.
Still no luck! Does anyone have something to suggest?
Hmmmm .... still would go for battery malfunction !
aLvindeBa said:
Still no luck! Does anyone have something to suggest?
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you say it charges the battery ? if you are able to see the white icon of the battery charging when the phone is off and you connect the charger , then it's definitely the phone battery .... replace it and lets hope it works out
Frank Hilario said:
you say it charges the battery ? if you are able to see the white icon of the battery charging when the phone is off and you connect the charger , then it's definitely the phone battery .... replace it and lets hope it works out
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No, I'm unable to see battery charging indicator. But when I lick the battery you can feel the electricity. Yea, it's stupid method but it does the job. And when I put it in another phone it says it's almost full 99% to be exact. So battery... Gonna buy a new one.
aLvindeBa said:
Hey everyone. I have huge problem with my Galaxy Nexus i9250 for few days now.
Let me start from beggining.
First it was showing charging symbol even if it ain't plugged in. Then it stopped after I cleaned charging port.
Few weeks back there were great floods in my region (Bosnia) and we were in lack of electricity so I started to charge it on a car charger and after it's completely charged (2h) as soon as I start to use it the battery goes off really fast, example, if I use it for let's say calls or even on "stand by" after 30mins the battery goes for like 40%. That's when problems started to begin. If it was turned off becuase of lack of battery I had to turn it on by pressing "Down volume + power" for first 2 times. Then I had to remove battery for few seconds then put it back not completely but I had to press the battery against those 4 pins which conduct electricity to a cell phone and press those two buttons for like 30 seconds to turn it on. Few days ago, I had same problem, but this time it wasnt empty on battery, it was in my pocked with almost 50% of battery when I took it and I saw it was off. Tried again that same proccedure, it turned on, showed recovery menu and it turned off. Ever since I can't turn it on, it charges, but it doesn't show charging indicator on my screen. When I put my battery in other phone it shows it's fully charged. I can't turn it on, my PC won't reconize it, let's say it's dead. I don't know what's happening, so I'm asking here if anyone knows what to do. Thanks to all.
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Alright, i have been sailing in the same boat, my i9250 has not been charging for quite some time.
Now for all most few months the phone is charging without any problem. I suspect the Google Search application could be the reason. I uninstalled all the Google Search application update and kept it to the one come by default. Since then i am able to charge my phone without any problem. The Google search version that i have is V 2.2.9.542574.
Try it out. All the best!!