[Q] Problem update unlocked AT&T note 4 - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

Hi,
I've just got an AT&T note 4 and it is sim - unlocked already, but i can not got the OTA update from the server, every time i clicked on the update it is always the latest but i know AT&T rolled out an update in December for Note 4, and i am still stucking in the factory build number. Can anyone help me

Do you have an AT&T sim inside the phone?

NIE is the latest version of the firmware. First check to see what version you're on.
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spexwood said:
NIE is the latest version of the firmware. First check to see what version you're on.
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no nk3 is the latest

johnan2112 said:
Do you have an AT&T sim inside the phone?
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No i don't, do we need an AT&T sim to update? Because i don't have one, and i'm out of the USA, so the sim is actually useless i guess

jerrycoffman45 said:
no nk3 is the latest
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Oops! Yes, you're right.
Why the heck did i even say that?! Ive been on NK3 forever too! I went off memory though when I said that. Didn't look at my firmware version.
SORRY. I just feel so stupid for saying that lmao.
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lordgon said:
No i don't, do we need an AT&T sim to update? Because i don't have one, and i'm out of the USA, so the sim is actually useless i guess
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Yes, you need to be connected to the ATT network (have an ATT sim card) in order to receive updates.
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spexwood said:
Oops! Yes, you're right.
Why the heck did i even say that?! Ive been on NK3 forever too! I went off memory though when I said that. Didn't look at my firmware version.
SORRY. I just feel so stupid for saying that lmao.
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Yes, you need to be connected to the ATT network (have an ATT sim card) in order to receive updates.
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So what if i'm out of US and i want to update my phone? Do i need to book a plane ticket and go all the way back there just to upgrade to lollipop :crying:, i don't know why AT&T do the restrict to their UNLOCKED phone

lordgon said:
So what if i'm out of US and i want to update my phone? Do i need to book a plane ticket and go all the way back there just to upgrade to lollipop :crying:, i don't know why AT&T do the restrict to their UNLOCKED phone
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Honestly, I believe a plane trip is basically what you'd have to do. I'm just repeating what has been discussed in the following thread though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3027462
The topic is completely unrelated to your issue, but the OP is having a similar issue. He is stuck on NIE (which is the firmware that came with the phone, unlike what I said earlier. NK3 came later) and he needs to update, but is using an unlocked n910a and isn't in the USA.
From the thread:
Quote from Norbarb
"You can't do anything unless you have at&t sim card in your phone and you are on at&t network. Otherwise phone will not update, also do to lock bootloader and no root we can't pull update from phone to create current firmware. Your phone is on last avalable official firmware and longest you can't get phone on at&t network or someone find root for this phone you can't update. Sorry for bad news.<br />
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Edit: If you in London have Samsung store you can go there and see if they can update your phone true Smart Tool.<br />
Clicking from notecable N910A<br/>"
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spexwood said:
Honestly, I believe a plane trip is basically what you'd have to do. I'm just repeating what has been discussed in the following thread though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3027462
The topic is completely unrelated to your issue, but the OP is having a similar issue. He is stuck on NIE (which is the firmware that came with the phone, unlike what I said earlier. NK3 came later) and he needs to update, but is using an unlocked n910a and isn't in the USA.
From the thread:
Quote from Norbarb
"You can't do anything unless you have at&t sim card in your phone and you are on at&t network. Otherwise phone will not update, also do to lock bootloader and no root we can't pull update from phone to create current firmware. Your phone is on last avalable official firmware and longest you can't get phone on at&t network or someone find root for this phone you can't update. Sorry for bad news.<br />
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Edit: If you in London have Samsung store you can go there and see if they can update your phone true Smart Tool.<br />
Clicking from notecable N910A<br/>"
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Thank you so much for your help , i guess i'm done with this freaking AT&T bastards , will not stick with any phone from AT&T from now. Thank you guys for your patience have a nice day everyone

It is strange...I am using a AT&T Note 4 in pakistan on a local Mobile Network and still i got NK3 update...Now i am bit confused...

lordgon said:
Thank you so much for your help , i guess i'm done with this freaking AT&T bastards , will not stick with any phone from AT&T from now. Thank you guys for your patience have a nice day everyone
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How do you expect the phone to run an AT&T update if you don't have an AT&T SIM installed to connect to the AT&T update servers? Unless I'm totally missing something here.

bruce7373 said:
How do you expect the phone to run an AT&T update if you don't have an AT&T SIM installed to connect to the AT&T update servers? Unless I'm totally missing something here.
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Man, at what condition you want to unlock a phone? , most of the time you don't want to use that network anymore or you want to bring it somewhere out of US, so you can use it with another mobile network. Either of the cases, you don't want to use AT&T anymore and now AT&T tell me that i must have AT&T sim and its network in order to update? The worst case is i moved to another country to live and my phone is stucking at stock version forever :crying:. This is common sense that a phone will fully function as an international Note 4 if i unlock it, which mean no restriction with AT&T anymore. So when i want to move out, i can continue to use it. Just like the Iphone, you can buy it from AT&T and when you unlock it will be an off-contract phone, you don't need AT&T network to update it. :fingers-crossed:

And an international version will work on att network.. you bought the phone from att, unfortunatly the industry doesnt work like you want it to (yet?). Your solution is to not buy a carrier branded phone and get the international version.

hey did you get the marshmallow update yet

I have a unlocked att note 4 using straight talk Sim and I still receive Ota updates
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New OTA - AOJ1

Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
Downloading mine now
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
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Shut up idiot..you only know about it cause I text you and told you. Lol
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Software update includes
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys and gals, there is a new OTA available. Build number AOJ1. It comes in at almost 119mb.
It is still 5.1.1 and just general performance improvements, etc. I haven't had a chance to run it through its paces yet. I will update as I have a better idea of how it is.
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How are your menu screens black? I'm assuming that is a theme?
TeldenW said:
How are your menu screens black? I'm assuming that is a theme?
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Yes, it's a theme. It's called fantasy dark.
Running On Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A
Ok... I'll jump. Already ran the Fall update on Winders 10, might as well throw my phone into early-adoption-land as well.
Not finding this update on my phone. On Cricket Wireless network running on unlocked AT&T version. Since Cricket uses AT&T network, it shouldn't matter much. Is this available via Smart Switch yet or strictly OTA?
Might be prep for Marshmallow
Does anyone have an offline copy of this or previous version that I can flash through odin? I am 2 versions behind and software update says I m on the latest.
banstro said:
Does anyone have an offline copy of this or previous version that I can flash through odin? I am 2 versions behind and software update says I[']m on the latest.
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Contact AT&T tech support by online chat and they can push the update to your phone. (I did that for one of the Note 5s I'm helping to maintain.)
Gary02468 said:
Contact AT&T tech support by online chat and they can push the update to your phone. (I did that for one of the Note 5s I'm helping to maintain.)
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Tried the online chat. The customer rep refused to push said they have no ability to contact the phone as Cricket Wireless is servicing it. I think its all BS.. the rep didn't know what she was talking. Tried another rep, same answer. I have used TMobile Note Edge on Cricket Wireless and always got the latest OTA updates.
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Tried the online chat. The customer rep refused to push said they have no ability to contact the phone as Cricket Wireless is servicing it. I think its all BS.. the rep didn't know what she was talking. Tried another rep, same answer. I have used TMobile Note Edge on Cricket Wireless and always got the latest OTA updates.
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The problem here is that your using Cricket, even though the phone may be on an AT&T Network, AT&T will not recognize the device as being on their network. AT&T is always fairly strict with who, what, and when they roll out updates. It is also possible it just isn't available in the area you are as well. If all else fails go to a Best Buy and have them flash the device to the most current at the Samsung Kiosk. Though they are usually about a month or so behind on updates typically, at least last I recall anyway. Believe me if AT&T Execs had their way I am more than willing to bet they would lock their phones down so hard no one would be able to take their phones to another carrier. T-Mobile on the other hand is fairly open with what people do with their cellphones hence the reason most of their phones can be rooted etc.
On am on at&t with an AT&T phone and I am on old version? I called at &t and Rep says they cannot push an update? Ended up having me call asurion. Insurance company for the phone and they have no idea? Any help in this matter would be great.
malickie said:
The problem here is that your using Cricket, even though the phone may be on an AT&T Network, AT&T will not recognize the device as being on their network. AT&T is always fairly strict with who, what, and when they roll out updates. It is also possible it just isn't available in the area you are as well. If all else fails go to a Best Buy and have them flash the device to the most current at the Samsung Kiosk. Though they are usually about a month or so behind on updates typically, at least last I recall anyway. Believe me if AT&T Execs had their way I am more than willing to bet they would lock their phones down so hard no one would be able to take their phones to another carrier. T-Mobile on the other hand is fairly open with what people do with their cellphones hence the reason most of their phones can be rooted etc.
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Already been to Best Buy. They are 2 versions behind on this as well. So I have the version what Best Buy has...ending with AO16
Mine just received the update. Installed and apps are optimizing now.
Acill said:
Mine just received the update. Installed and apps are optimizing now.
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What's the baseband or are we talking about J1 ?
Running On Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920A
Is the OTA pushed file stored somewhere on the phone? May be it can be flashed thru odin?
Chris V said:
On am on at&t with an AT&T phone and I am on old version? I called at &t and Rep says they cannot push an update? Ended up having me call asurion. Insurance company for the phone and they have no idea? Any help in this matter would be great.
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It's been what five hours. Just wait tell they get you.
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If someone tells me how i will save the file and upload it when i get home. I have the update postponed currently.

N920A No OTA update for unlocked Model

Hi
I live in Pakistan and use a SG Note 5 At&t unlocked model, i was wondering if i can get the OTA Marshmallow update too.
Whenever i check for it in the software update option it says your current software is upto date.
I am on Build Number N920AUCU2AOJ1.
Thanks!
i believe you can't, the ota works only if you're using att sim card inside the US network, unless you sideload or flash the rom manually
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Thanks for the reply!
My only hope now is a firmware file that can be flashed via ODIN, which i believe is currently unavailable.
Not buying an AT&T device from now on!
lyrad12 said:
i believe you can't, the ota works only if you're using att sim card inside the US network, unless you sideload or flash the rom manually
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The AT&T Sim card is required but I don't think you have to be in the US to get it. When I had a Note 4 back in March, I received an update while I was in Italy (I live in US).
You def. don't need to be in the US to get it. As the OTA will also deliver over wifi. I've not seen a phone require the carrier sim card in order to receive an OTA, but I suppose it is possible.
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The AT&T Sim card is required but I don't think you have to be in the US to get it. When I had a Note 4 back in March, I received an update while I was in Italy (I live in US).
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oh meaning you're using a roaming att sim card that's why it triggers the ota, in his case he lives in pakistan and i assume his using other carrier there, did you manage to download the update via 4g or wifi?
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lyrad12 said:
oh meaning you're using a roaming att sim card that's why it triggers the ota, in his case he lives in pakistan and i assume his using other carrier there, did you manage to download the update via 4g or wifi?
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I'm on an AT&T family share plan in the US. While traveling abroad I had purchased a travel plans from AT&T. I was using data (roaming) in Italy when I got a notification of an update. The update required that I use wifi to download it so I did it that night in the hotel. Was a security update so it didn't take long.
jack man said:
I'm on an AT&T family share plan in the US. While traveling abroad I had purchased a travel plans from AT&T. I was using data (roaming) in Italy when I got a notification of an update. The update required that I use wifi to download it so I did it that night in the hotel. Was a security update so it didn't take long.
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Here read first two posts in this thread. It might help u get what u looking for. Pb2 to pe6 seems to me working best from side load of adb.
It should all stay Offical.
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FtaWolf said:
Here read first two posts in this thread. It might help u get what u looking for. Pb2 to pe6 seems to me working best from side load of adb.
It should all stay Offical.
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If you read the thread you'll realize it wasn't me that's looking for anything. I've been running MM for a month with no problems. My comments were simply stating that ota updates can be done outside of US as long as you had an AT&T Sim card.
jack man said:
If you read the thread you'll realize it wasn't me that's looking for anything. I've been running MM for a month with no problems. My comments were simply stating that ota updates can be done outside of US as long as you had an AT&T Sim card.
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Well there u go solved then.
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bilal.khan said:
Hi
I live in Pakistan and use a SG Note 5 At&t unlocked model, i was wondering if i can get the OTA Marshmallow update too.
Whenever i check for it in the software update option it says your current software is upto date.
I am on Build Number N920AUCU2AOJ1.
Thanks!
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It is true, you need to be both in the US and have a working SIM card to get the OTA. I am in the Caribbean on a short vacation and I have my SIM but it still won't let me grab the OTA. I am willing to bet it will update when I make it back to the US. Will update
Not true. AT&T Sim card is required but I've been traveling abroad and received updates outside the US. Simple as that. Even though you may not be physically in the AT&T network, the sim card is what links you back to AT&T.

Can US model unlocked Note 8 from Samsung be 'converted' to a Verizon branded Note 8?

Please accept my apologies if this has been asked/answered ad nausem, but after searching the forums I still don't have a clear answer.
As the title suggests, I want to know if it's possible to convert the Note 8 I purchased from Samsung into the version that Verizon sells in the US? Is there a process I can follow to reinstall the ROM on this with the Verizon version to include the bootloader so that it has the exact same image, bootloader, software, etc. as if it were purchased as a Verizon branded phone?
If there isn't a process I can follow, by chance can a Verizon Wireless corporate store do this?
I've been a Verizon Wireless customer over 10 years and have always purchased their branded phones, however with this Note 8 I decided to go with the unlocked version from Samsung directly and now I'm thinking I should've went with the Verizon version. Hoping there's a way to put the complete Verizon build onto this phone.
See this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
It's a bit involved but once everything is downloaded only takes ~30 minutes.
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I would stay unlocked. Verizon has a lot of features locked out for no reason like device manager.
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I would stay unlocked. Verizon has a lot of features locked out for no reason like device manager.
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I bought the unlocked version from Samsung and I am on Verizon as well. I just downloaded the official Verizon Note 8 firmware and flashed it to the phone with Odin. It's really simple but it does erase the phone. If you want to go back to the unlocked firmware you can flash that with Odin as well. P.S., you do need know what you are doing when it comes to using Odin, but a little reading and you'll be good to go.
droidnew said:
I bought the unlocked version from Samsung and I am on Verizon as well. I just downloaded the official Verizon Note 8 firmware and flashed it to the phone with Odin. It's really simple but it does erase the phone. If you want to go back to the unlocked firmware you can flash that with Odin as well. P.S., you do need know what you are doing when it comes to using Odin, but a little reading and you'll be good to go.
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Any difference in battery life
wcr84 said:
Any difference in battery life
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I haven't noticed any difference at all.
Does wifi calling work on Verizon?
Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.
seemcity said:
Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.
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What benefit do Verizon customers receive by using this band? And are Verizon customers already on this band?
Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!
If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. *
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This band is not yet available on Verizon, but it will be used when Verizon activates Gigabits LTE.
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Verizon version has new LAA LTE band 46. Unlocked version doesn't have this band.
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Is that a difference in the hardware, or the firmware?
I.e. will you be able to flash an Unlocked phone with Verizon firmware and use Band 46?
I have note 8 unlocked. I flashed Verizon firmware and have band 46. I checked band selection in service menu, band 46 has a star next to it. It means that this will be usable when Verizon activates it. Unlocked firmware doesn't have band 46.
I have unbranded from Sammy also. The only thing I am having issues with respect to VZW is the video calling and premium visual voicemail. In another thread so guy seems to have got it working, but for some reason I can't. Any help? Thanks
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skinnytoo2 said:
I have unbranded from Sammy also. The only thing I am having issues with respect to VZW is the video calling and premium visual voicemail. In another thread so guy seems to have got it working, but for some reason I can't. Any help? Thanks
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Flash Verizon or Xfinity firmware if you want carrier function
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884/page51
Go to OP...post 1
Yeah I saw that, looks extremely complex. I'm not sure I can handle it. Lol
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Yeah I saw that, looks extremely complex. I'm not sure I can handle it. Lol
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It's easy enough...step by step...flash carrier though...not the whole thing lol
I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?
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I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?
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I had the same problem, what I did, I install Instavoice from playstore..
HTCJimmy said:
I also bought an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung. Only now I have not voicemail notification and no way to receive my voicemail except by *86. I went weeks waiting for voicemail notification to show up, then when I called *86 I discovered I had messages that were over a month old. Verizon said there was no way to get voicemail from my phone since I didn't buy it from them, and Samsung said I had to have a Verizon phone. Any help?
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Google voice....or flash carrier Firmware
Hi there. I did create a post for someone else, ill post the link here.
It's for STOCK Verizon or Unlock US N950U or N950W.
I did the test with all US CARRIER firmware and everything works 100%.
Hi there. You'll need to have your Note 8 Bootloader version on level 2, meaning 2BQK2, 2BQJA or anything with 2 before the last 4 digits.
1) tmobile SIM card in device
2) Odin v3.12.7 make sure extract
3) 2BQK2 firmware extract all files
4) put all 4 set of firmware files in the right manner, bl,ap,cp and csc. Don't used home-csc only CSC.
Odin and firmware https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673791459329067572 2BQK2
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=962157660013069130 2BQL5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bR...u92cktT_f8hIYp
Unlock firmware
1) any carrier SIM card
2) Odin v3.12.5 Prince Comsey or modified Odin, make sure extract
3) 2BQK1 firmware, extract all files.
4) put all 4 set of firmware files in the right manner, bl,ap,cp and csc. Don't used home-csc only CSC
Odin and firmware https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291691586 2BQK1
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617955896 2BQL2
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lw...oqy692ClZ36n4U
First instructions is for if you want stock US CARRIER BLOATWARE FIRMWARE, second instructions is if you want SAMSUNG STOCK FIRMWARE. Follow steps and everything will be fine, happy flashing.
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I did heard about Gigabit 4G LTE from Verizon for last month release, but no show yet. I don't bother with the video calls and Visual voicemail, Verizon firmware don't have Samsung cloud, I'm losing too much other stuff to used. All I used is stock Samsung firmware, if Verizon had the cloud no problem, but they don't. Better performance on U1 firmware anywhere and white pages id which is better than what the carriers offer.

Definitive list of differences between carrier locked and unlocked variants

Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
buffalosolja42 said:
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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They are the same phones and can run the same firmware.
I would go with whatever the best deal you can get.
I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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buffalosolja42 said:
I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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Who is your carrier?
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buffalosolja42 said:
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
That is what i figured searched the forums a bit but needed something concise appreciate the info!!
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Who is your carrier?
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
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I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
beethoven1854 said:
I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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I have been using it just fine. I will do it on my Note 10 plus and report back my result.
Well there you go, OP. I guess flashing ATT firmware to your unlocked device still works to activate carrier features. Everything else I said is still accurate.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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buffalosolja42 said:
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
ekerbuddyeker said:
thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
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Work in IT daily and easier for wife as it pops up in call.
I would use it, but I use a Google Voice number as my primary number. We used to do Hangouts video calls all the time, but not so much anymore. I guess the romance is dead.
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
Corruption Inc said:
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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I have a pre-order deal from Samsung that is between 6-700 can't remember at the moment.
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I always use unlocked devices whether it be Samsung unlocked or Google pixels unlocked but all work like a charm on verizon and get basically free unchecked hotspot
beethoven1854 said:
So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
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Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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So interestingly, there's another thread and people who are flashing ATT firmware to the unlocked version can no longer get WFC to work. They said it works for a few minutes if they give ATT an old IMEI number, but the system will automatically update to the new IMEI and WFC will no longer work. Read page four of the thread to see what I'm talking about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/unlocked-samsung-att-tmo-t3956698
Corruption Inc said:
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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There's a few reasons:
1. This year the Note 9 is worth $600 towards an unlocked model, but only $300 towards carrier models.
2. The U1 models generally maintain their value a little better than the carrier branded models. Even though it's the same exact device, that little "1" makes a difference for some reason.
3. It's factory unlocked. T-Mo, Sprint, ATT, and now Verizon all come carrier locked. Verizon stays locked for 60 days then automatically unlocks. T-Mo you have to pay it off, or pay cash up front, then wait 40 days with it active on your account before it can be unlocked. ATT again has to be paid off or paid in full up front and then you have to request an unkock and wait for the code. I believe Sprint automatically unlocks it once it's paid off.
4. I've heard conflicting stories, but at least in the past, Sprint was weird about their BYOD program. You could only bring devices with whitelisted IMEIs. That was Sprint devices and factory unlocked devices. If you just got your ATT Galaxy S8+ unlocked and brought it to Sprint, it wouldn't activate, even though it was the same exact device hardwarewise. The IMEI wasn't in their database. So the Unlocked version is more flexible.
5. That ugly ATT box. For some reason ATT will often take the phone out of the nice Samsung box and throw it in a cheap ATT box. See the USA Pre-order thread on here. There's already people complaining about that box. And I'm a packaging guy.
So you might as well get the device that's cheaper up front and holds it's value the best and is the most flexible carrier wise. If you want carrier features and firmware, you can still have them, and no worries ever about a SIM lock. Well except with ATT apparently. If you need ATT WiFi calling and VoLTE, you may be stuck getting the ATT model, from what I'm reading.
Now that said, if you don't have a trade in device, and your carrier is offering a better deal on their model...then by all means get that one.
Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
akrein62 said:
Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
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T-Mobile customer here. I had an unlocked S7 Edge that would roam just fine on partner networks, in the US and internationally. Haven't had the opportunity to test roaming yet with my brand new unlocked Note 10+ but I suspect my results would be the same as with my S7 Edge.

Horrible ATT reception with unlocked Note 10+

So I switched from a ATT S9+ to the (Unlocked) Note 10+ and have had the most horrible reception on ATT. I was wondering if it's happening to anyone else? I spoke with the ATT advanced tech team and she told me that because it's not the ATT Note 10+ that it's not configured for their network. Is this true? She then help me set up a new APN which was the same as before she just added hipri to the apn type. Is anyone else having this same issue or know what's going on? I need to know before I convince myself to return this one for a ATT Note 10+.
1. did you try to check and see if there's a software update?
2. try to turn off phone and turn back on
i using unlocked note10+ on verizon prepaid no problem.
i also have a freedomp simcard, it uses the att network, it showing the same 3 bar signals like my toy iphone8 at my house
I also use unlocked dual SIM 975F on ATT. It works but I feel like the speed is slow but ironically, when I compared to a '5G' iPhone on ATT I got faster speeds - go figure. I'm trying to get them to enable voLTE . I believe we miss band 30!which is used in cities. The trade off is worth it though, for me to have dual SIM.
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So I switched from a ATT S9+ to the (Unlocked) Note 10+ and have had the most horrible reception on ATT. I was wondering if it's happening to anyone else? I spoke with the ATT advanced tech team and she told me that because it's not the ATT Note 10+ that it's not configured for their network. Is this true? She then help me set up a new APN which was the same as before she just added hipri to the apn type. Is anyone else having this same issue or know what's going on? I need to know before I convince myself to return this one for a ATT Note 10+.
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I'm having the same issues as we speak I currently have no bars. What will work and I did this with my Galaxy s10 plus , we need to flash the att software since it's unlocked. Not sure how to do it with this one. Let me see if I can find it and post it
netnerd said:
1. did you try to check and see if there's a software update?
2. try to turn off phone and turn back on
i using unlocked note10+ on verizon prepaid no problem.
i also have a freedomp simcard, it uses the att network, it showing the same 3 bar signals like my toy iphone8 at my house
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Yea I have the latest software. I have the N75U1. The whole reason why I got unlocked is because of bloatware and also so I'll be able to unlock and root the phone once that feature becomes available. So hopefully I made the right decision.
skylinegtr116 said:
I'm having the same issues as we speak I currently have no bars. What will work and I did this with my Galaxy s10 plus , we need to flash the att software since it's unlocked. Not sure how to do it with this one. Let me see if I can find it and post it
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That would be awesome because right now I'm regretting my decision on this unlocked phone so bad lol
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That would be awesome because right now I'm regretting my decision on this unlocked phone so bad lol
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i have the unlocked version. I flashed AT&T firmware. Signal is the same. Makes no difference unlocked or carrier branded, the hardware is the same.
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i have the unlocked version. I flashed AT&T firmware. Signal is the same. Makes no difference unlocked or carrier branded, the hardware is the same.
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So based off of that should I return this phone and swap it out with the att version? I thought the unlocked had the same hardware and a little more? Sorry I didnt do my research on bands and all that good stuff.
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Yea I have the latest software. I have the N75U1. The whole reason why I got unlocked is because of bloatware and also so I'll be able to unlock and root the phone once that feature becomes available. So hopefully I made the right decision.
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If you bought the N975U1, then it's already carrier unlocked.
If you mean unlock the bootloader, that will never happen. And there's about a 99.9% chance it will never be rooted.
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If you bought the N975U1, then it's already carrier unlocked.
If you mean unlock the bootloader, that will never happen. And there's about a 99.9% chance it will never be rooted.
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Yea I have the N975U1. Im guessing it has all the same hardware as the att note 10 plus or is there something different? Well... that's good to know lol I guess I bought it so it has no bloatware then lol thanks for the heads up.
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Yea I have the N975U1. Im guessing it has all the same hardware as the att note 10 plus or is there something different? Well... that's good to know lol I guess I bought it so it has no bloatware then lol thanks for the heads up.
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Yup. Same exact hardware.
The N975U, the N975U1, and the N975W (Canadian) are all exactly the same hardware and you can cross flash hardware between them.
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That would be awesome because right now I'm regretting my decision on this unlocked phone so bad lol
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I think it varies carrier and location. I just flashed the tmobile firmware which is the same for at&t and I got VOLTE ,WIFI CALLING AND ADVANCED MESSAGING back. Where I had no service I have 2 bars now.
So I'm happy now. Try it for yourself before returning
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Yup. Same exact hardware.
The N975U, the N975U1, and the N975W (Canadian) are all exactly the same hardware and you can cross flash hardware between them.
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Thank you for that info that's all I needed to know because what the att advanced tech team said was that the att note 10 was specifically for their network including hardware so I was thinking it had something this unlocked version didnt.
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Thank you for that info that's all I needed to know because what the att advanced tech team said was that the att note 10 was specifically for their network including hardware so I was thinking it had something this unlocked version didnt.
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LOL. Nope same exact device, just different firmware.
I bought the unlocked too. I really needed wifi calling since my ATT service is poor at my house. Once I flashed the ATT firmware (including ATT User Data file) I got wifi calling, VoLTE, HD Voice, Visual Voice all back. My calls are 100% better. Before flashing I sounded muffled to the people who I called & calls were dropping. Now they are crystal clear & no drops. I mainly got the unlocked for the Trade in value on my Note 9. Totally worth it.
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I bought the unlocked too. I really needed wifi calling since my ATT service is poor at my house. Once I flashed the ATT firmware (including ATT User Data file) I got wifi calling, VoLTE, HD Voice, Visual Voice all back. My calls are 100% better. Before flashing I sounded muffled to the people who I called & calls were dropping. Now they are crystal clear & no drops. I mainly got the unlocked for the Trade in value on my Note 9. Totally worth it.
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Any chance you can direct us to the post(s) that you followed to do this correctly? I've been collecting files to attempt this for AT&T, but haven't found a decent guide.
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Any chance you can direct us to the post(s) that you followed to do this correctly? I've been collecting files to attempt this for AT&T, but haven't found a decent guide.
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Disclaimer: You do this at your own risk! Read & re-read the details! I am not responsible if you brick your phone
Now, all that being said, it was actually an easy process but I searched and read and read and re-read before trying anything.
I got the firmware & most importantly for AT&T, the UserData file from this thread (Read the entire Post (maybe 2 or 3 times), it's very informative:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/n975u-n975u1-firmware-links-t3957648
I followed the instructions from this S10 thread See POST #5 & substituted the N975U file Wording when they listed the file names for the S10 firmware:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/help/samsung-s10-unlocked-phone-att-firmware-t3912973
NOTE I used a patched version of ODIN from this thread (and not the version linked to in the S10 discussion thread above):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/patched-odin-3-13-1-t3762572
Lastly, I am using my old Note 9 AT&T SIM Card. From what I've read, at any given time, AT$T can update their system and your IMEI might not correspond to their ATT specific list and apparently you can lose functionality. I've been fine for a week and others have been flashing unlocked phones with ATT firmware for years so I'll take my chances.
Good Luck!
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Any chance you can direct us to the post(s) that you followed to do this correctly? I've been collecting files to attempt this for AT&T, but haven't found a decent guide.
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Use the patched version of Odin.
Turn the phone off and press and hold the power,up and down volume buttons at the same time.
Let go once the download screen appears.
Go ahead and put all the files in the correct spot..AB to AN ,BL to BL and so on.
Once complete just start the flash and that's it. Leave the att sim in the phone through the whole process.
Done...
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Any chance you can direct us to the post(s) that you followed to do this correctly? I've been collecting files to attempt this for AT&T, but haven't found a decent guide.
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Have you tried flashing it yet?
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Have you tried flashing it yet?
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I have.
I'm not sure if the ATT file took.
I know I lost my apps/customizations...which I was expecting since I used the home-csc file.
Also my GMAIL app is not right, its missing the ability to set the frequency of SYNCs, which I had with the stock Gapps.

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