So, for a previous OTA update on 4.4 KitKat that brought some bug fixes, I could simply do a temporary unroot and use OTA survival mode with Superuser/SuperSU.
Now, with this new OTA that updates the OS to Lollipop, none of that seems to work. It always detects that the device is rooted and I don't know how.
So, does anyone have any idea how to apply this Lollipop OTA with a rooted device? How to avoid OTA rooted phone detection?
The last resort is to either use SuperSU to unroot fully or flash a fresh stock ROM... and none of those are satisfying.
Thanks in advance!
It's more than obvious that you need to flash a stock rom for OTA to function properly.
Masta Sukeh said:
So, for a previous OTA update on 4.4 KitKat that brought some bug fixes, I could simply do a temporary unroot and use OTA survival mode with Superuser/SuperSU.
Now, with this new OTA that updates the OS to Lollipop, none of that seems to work. It always detects that the device is rooted and I don't know how.
So, does anyone have any idea how to apply this Lollipop OTA with a rooted device? How to avoid OTA rooted phone detection?
The last resort is to either use SuperSU to unroot fully or flash a fresh stock ROM... and none of those are satisfying.
Thanks in advance!
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Well, you can play around with RCT, there are guides on resetting that.
Though it's not gonna work, such a big upgrade will break root regardless of ota survival mode or whatever. Or you will get a bootloop...
Do it the right way. Install TWRP, then install rooted LL rom.
Masta Sukeh said:
So, for a previous OTA update on 4.4 KitKat that brought some bug fixes, I could simply do a temporary unroot and use OTA survival mode with Superuser/SuperSU.
Now, with this new OTA that updates the OS to Lollipop, none of that seems to work. It always detects that the device is rooted and I don't know how.
So, does anyone have any idea how to apply this Lollipop OTA with a rooted device? How to avoid OTA rooted phone detection?
The last resort is to either use SuperSU to unroot fully or flash a fresh stock ROM... and none of those are satisfying.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi! I'm in South Korea and I had the exact same issue on KK.. I always used to flash the stock and then update KK... HOWEVER .....I didn't receive OTA update on Lollipop. I connected my phone to LG PC Suite and the phone updated from there.. and I didn't have to unroot. Have you tried connecting your phone to LG PC Suite and update from there? Good luck
IMO.. Lollipop sucks! I went back to KK after trying Lollipop for a few days.
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Hi,
I got a Gnex from Singapore singtel.
I didn't want to wait for OTA to 4.1.1 so I rooted and flashed JB 4.1.1
I am running the stock rom from google..
Now that 4.1.2 is released and lot of people seem to have got the OTA, I am yet to get my OTA ...
I am wondering if it is because of the Unlocking and rooting done to my device...
Does Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device stop OTA update to 4.1.2?
Also pls tell me if you have got your OTA yet or not ...
[email protected]$#eR said:
Hi,
I got a Gnex from Singapore singtel.
I didn't want to wait for OTA to 4.1.1 so I rooted and flashed JB 4.1.1
I am running the stock rom from google..
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If you're running the stock ROM images from Google, then you didn't have to root. All you did was unlock the bootloader to flash those. If you rooted after, that was completely unnecessary to the process of switching.
(Sorry just a little pet peeve. People apparently have trouble grasping the difference between rooting and unlocking a bootloader, and the difference between a custom ROM and an official Google factory image.)
Now that 4.1.2 is released and lot of people seem to have got the OTA, I am yet to get my OTA ...
I am wondering if it is because of the Unlocking and rooting done to my device...
Does Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device stop OTA update to 4.1.2?
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NO. Unlocking your bootloader and rooting does not at all stop your device from notifying you that an OTA is ready to download and install. I don't know how many times this has to be posted in these forums before people understand...
Unlocked bootloader does nothing to the OTA process.
Rooting on its own does nothing to the OTA process. If you've kept a custom recovery, the OTA will not install automatically. The custom recovery does give you the option to flash it manually if you'd like, and keep the custom recovery. If you've changed/removed any system files or flashed a different radio, that will prevent the OTA from applying both automatically and manually. If you've started to modify the device this much, you shouldn't be expecting OTAs to work (this is where a lot of "status 7" errors occur).
If you've rooted and returned to a stock recovery, you can let the OTA automatically install, but you will lose root. It takes ~5min to root again, no big deal. You can also try one of the popular apps that "saves" root while you OTA, like OTA Rootkeeper.
Also pls tell me if you have got your OTA yet or not ...
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Just because a couple dozen people on a forum have gotten the OTA doesn't mean that you should have gotten it already. Its a tad frustrating, but the OTA has a staggered roll out. It doesn't depend on your location or carrier (assuming you've got takju or yakju firmware from Google), and will get to all devices eventually.
If you'd simply point your browser to the general forum, you'll already see several threads talking about the 4.1.2 update.
Got my OTA update
I got my OTA update yesternight ...
I'm new to android. I can't figure out why my phone will not OTA update. I'm on 4.1.2 I thought that I had the Sep. 4.1.2 update, but I don't and found that out when I was trying to update to the 4.3 that I've been waiting for. I'm still on version (I317UCAMC3) not (H3) which it says you need for the 4.3 update.
Every time I try to OTA update I get Software Update Interrupted, I think I've also gotten "your software is up to date"? I've also tried the Kies firmware and it says that my version is not supported to update via kies? I got the phone off eBay supposedly new and unlocked, but it's Att branded. Would being unlocked stop an update?
sovrin said:
I'm new to android. I can't figure out why my phone will not OTA update. I'm on 4.1.2 I thought that I had the Sep. 4.1.2 update, but I don't and found that out when I was trying to update to the 4.3 that I've been waiting for. I'm still on version (I317UCAMC3) not (H3) which it says you need for the 4.3 update.
Every time I try to OTA update I get Software Update Interrupted, I think I've also gotten "your software is up to date"? I've also tried the Kies firmware and it says that my version is not supported to update via kies? I got the phone off eBay supposedly new and unlocked, but it's Att branded. Would being unlocked stop an update?
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DO NOT OTA
you want to be on 4.3, just use the one click method, this way you dont have the locked bootloader
bbrennan said:
DO NOT OTA
you want to be on 4.3, just use the one click method, this way you dont have the locked bootloader
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I'm not familiar with the one click method. How do I do that?
thx
sovrin said:
I'm new to android. I can't figure out why my phone will not OTA update. I'm on 4.1.2 I thought that I had the Sep. 4.1.2 update, but I don't and found that out when I was trying to update to the 4.3 that I've been waiting for. I'm still on version (I317UCAMC3) not (H3) which it says you need for the 4.3 update.
Every time I try to OTA update I get Software Update Interrupted, I think I've also gotten "your software is up to date"? I've also tried the Kies firmware and it says that my version is not supported to update via kies? I got the phone off eBay supposedly new and unlocked, but it's Att branded. Would being unlocked stop an update?
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OTA = BAD. Wait and get one that is knox free as well.
It's not the unlocked part blocking the update. If the updated senses that the current version is not 100% stock, then it won't update. If the recovery is not 100% stock (I'm not 100% about this though), it won't update.
But you will end up in the long run being better off flashing either 4.4 (which ever cooked ROM you choose,) or waiting for the fabulous dev's here in XDA land to cook up the 4.3 version knox free, and rooted out of the box.
As far as I know the phone is stock so I still don't understand why the update won't go through. I downloaded a root checker to see if my phone was rooted and it says that it is not. since I can't figure out why the phone won't update I guess I should just root and install a rom.
Usually a custom recovery stops an official update.
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MasterDecker said:
OTA = BAD. Wait and get one that is knox free as well.
It's not the unlocked part blocking the update. If the updated senses that the current version is not 100% stock, then it won't update. If the recovery is not 100% stock (I'm not 100% about this though), it won't update.
But you will end up in the long run being better off flashing either 4.4 (which ever cooked ROM you choose,) or waiting for the fabulous dev's here in XDA land to cook up the 4.3 version knox free, and rooted out of the box.
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I was told unless you have ***mh3, it will not update to 4.3 via OTA.
I have same issue, I have UCAMA3 and it won't do.
It seems it doesn't even have to be stock for someone I work with had **MH3 rooted and all and it updated to 4.3 OTA.
Maybe someone will be able to put out rooted stock one in the future.
my phone wont update either
I am having a similiar issue with my phone, it is rooted and will not update. I have Android version 4.1.2 Baseband version I317UCAMH3 Build JZO54k.. and I have twrp recovery. Does anyone know what I can do to receive the update? Do I have to unroot in order to receive the update? and if so can someone direct me on how to do that? Or is it better to just flash a custom rom and if so would someone be able to direct me to where I can find the instructions to do that. Thank you so much! I have flashed roms in the past but its been a while...
rebecca928,sun80chon,sovrin
Enjoy
[ROM][4.3][Dec-2013] AT&T I317-UCUBMK6/MJ4 *Stock* Rooted Odex/De-Odex/Odin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589891
My wife and I both have a SM-T900, mine is rooted hers is stock. Today she received the OTA update but I get a message that my device is modified and the update is not available. I then connect my device to my PC using Kies 3 and it tells me that a update is available. My question is can I go ahead and update my rooted device, will it screw anything up, will I still have rooted afterwards or will I have to re-root? I still have stock recovery.
yea, you just lose root after the update and you can re-root afterward. you wont lose anything. The update is very minimal so i would say wait until the official Lollipop comes out to update it.
New firmware T700ZSU1ANL1 and T800ZSU1ANL1 (Hong Kong both).*
Can i install these in europeans tablets?
Thanks
Any ideas?
I have installed it on the US WiFi only version, so I don't see it being a problem, if it doesn't install you can always Odin back to your stock rom... if you have a 3/4g type tablet then you may want to not flash it..... I'm digging the new kernel personally.
Itchiee said:
I have installed it on the US WiFi only version, so I don't see it being a problem, if it doesn't install you can always Odin back to your stock rom... if you have a 3/4g type tablet then you may want to not flash it..... I'm digging the new kernel personally.
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I have installed it in european firmware, portuguese one to be exact (FNAB), no issues at all.
Zootopia said:
I have installed it in european firmware, portuguese one to be exact (FNAB), no issues at all.
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I installed, thanks, no issues.
Tavocampana said:
I installed, thanks, no issues.
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Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?
Restorer said:
Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?
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Theres an app calplled root cloak to hide root from apps. I dont really care on being on stock rom just to get ota lollipop. There would most liekly be a custom rooted lollipop rom when lollipop is out.
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Theres an app calped root cloak to hide root from apps. I dont really care on being on stock rom just to get ota lollipop. There would most liekly be a custom rooted lollipop rom when lollipop is out.
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Unfortunately none of the cloaking apps work on Sky Go or Barclays and other banking apps. Neither does RootCloak or RootCloak Plus Xposed mods .
That is why I asked the question. Not really bothered if it just means losing OTAs - provided everything else is still 100% official unrooted after Odin upgrade of UK tab with HK firmware. That's why I ask will this be the case?
Restorer said:
Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?
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I do not know.
My intention when the Lollipop version is released is to repeat the procedure and flash via Odin. I live in Argentina and here things come too late.
Tavocampana said:
I do not know.
My intention when the Lollipop version is released is to repeat the procedure and flash via Odin. I live in Argentina and here things come too late.
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Yeah, I'd do that too. But these apps are too important to me to risk losing them so I will probably just chicken out and wait for the OTA. Thing is, if the update works, I can't see any reason why the root-checking apps would be able to tell except if they were spotting non-UK codes. I do know their checks are a lot more sophisticated than looking only for the presence of SU and busybox. They for sure examine parts of the kernel and the DRM files as well.
My logic tells me that if the apps don't work with the HK firmware then all I need do is to flash back to the official UK XXU1 version. That's why I am just asking is anyone knows of any other differences that might be exposed using the Odin method to update?
Hello Guys
another question,i have E980 AT&T but if i returned to stock JB can i update to KK from the phone Software Update OTA? kindly dont answer if you are not sure
Still waiting...
I can't believe that there isn't anyone can answer this inquiry....
People aren't answering because you can find the answer by doing the search, consider these type of questions are discussed a year ago. Yes, you're safe to install through the OTA update as long you're not rooted while you're updating. If you're rooted while doing the OTA update, you will most likely end up with the bootloop.
hawkwind212 said:
People aren't answering because you can find the answer by doing the search, consider these type of questions are discussed a year ago. Yes, you're safe to install through the OTA update as long you're not rooted while you're updating. If you're rooted while doing the OTA update, you will most likely end up with the bootloop.
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first of all thanks for your reply, second thing, i know that im safe to do an upgrade through OTA and i know that for sure i dont have to be rooted, and my question is IF i went back to 4.1.2 (JB) can i upgrade officially OTA to KK 4.4.2 if i entered the (software update menu)?
I didn't say to be rooted, I meant it's unsafe to do an ota update if you were rooted. If you flashed the stock jb ROM, and wanted to update to stock kk using the ota, you're safe to do so as long you don't root before your update. Is that what you're asking?
Thanks again for responding, but in my question at the begining i didn't mention the root issue, and i know that u cant update ota if u r rooted, and what im.asking for is when i return to JB 4.1.2 and i want to have the official KK can i updated ota?
My E980 performed this update OTA some time ago. I purchased my E980 when it was ~1 year old from AT&T so it was $50. I suggest you check the AT&T support site to see fi you can update it via them if you step down to 4.1.2. The issue is that the update may no longer be pushed to your phone and you may be required to perform the update manually.