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I have found that my One X often kills apps I have running when I press the power button and put it away for more than a few minutes. I know Android will try to reclaim resources starting with background apps but this is killing the app I am currently looking at.
I have almost nothing else running and my system normally has 200-300 mb of available memory so it is a very unexpected behaviour. A typical example is I have something like firefox displaying a page. I read a bit then press off. I come back 10 minutes later and it needs to restart and reload the page. With previous phones the app would still be in the foreground the next time I turn it on and unless I navigate away it would stay that way.
I have a nexus s running ICS and that does not happen.
I have a desire running GB and is doesn't hapen.
I have a desire running Froyo and it does not happen.
Is there any way to force a less aggressive memory management on HOX?
There is an option for this, in settings > developer options, furthest down under apps section, first one; "Don't keep activities" check if it is enabled.
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.. also beneath it, there is a restriction "Background process limit", it may also cause immediate kills if "no background process" is set
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Thanks for the suggestions but those were set normally.
Tried using the built in browser instead of firefox and the problem was significantly reduced. It seems the system has a bias against non google apps. Even so - this HOX is behaving different in this respect to my other phones. It is my expectation as a user that if I am doing one thing, that thing should still be there the next time I look at my phone.
Something on the device may be leaking and the result is this need to stop stuff. My money is on sense ( mainly because of the observed ripple/flicker on the home screen ).
I've noticed same with my new one x it seems over eager killing all apps even sense launcher.
settings are correct but using chrome I don't dear open anything else for fear of it closing chrome and having to log back into everything, sometimes its as bad as just answering call or replying to a text message and its been killed
just as annoying it even kills launcher if I press home after using an app for more than a few minutes I get the please wait spinner while it has to load launcher
had ICS on desire HD and on zoom tab... this is not how it should work can't believe a phone with more memory and designed to run ICS is having to kill everything when DHD runs perfect
annoying little thing that is so far ruining what is otherwise an amazing phone
Seeing the same issue on my One S.
This happens with Dark Meadow. If the screen times out, or you hit the lock button, the game kind of "crashes". Not sure if this is the One X killing it or whether it's how the app is coded.
It's irritating anyway ><
Applications with a notification icon have not this behavior. Is there a possibility to set a higher priority to applications without root?
I'm having the same problem.
With cm9 @ Desire Z, I could, say, restore my 3000 sms within GoSMS (which takes a while) and meanwhile do whatever I wanted with the phone, eg. browsing, texting and so on.
With the H1X, after a certain time, the apps gets killed/suspended and therefore anything that happened within the app - which is pretty annoying. Any solution in sight?
H1X @ ARHD
I get this too. Annoying.
ViaraiX said:
I've noticed same with my new one x it seems over eager killing all apps even sense launcher.
settings are correct but using chrome I don't dear open anything else for fear of it closing chrome and having to log back into everything, sometimes its as bad as just answering call or replying to a text message and its been killed
just as annoying it even kills launcher if I press home after using an app for more than a few minutes I get the please wait spinner while it has to load launcher
had ICS on desire HD and on zoom tab... this is not how it should work can't believe a phone with more memory and designed to run ICS is having to kill everything when DHD runs perfect
annoying little thing that is so far ruining what is otherwise an amazing phone
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Sense launcher closing is not cos of the over-aggressive app killing. It's cos the system needs more RAM, so closes Sense since it's not directly in use right now. I do notice that some apps are getting closed after a period of inactivity, probably a default ICS setting that we can tweak when kernels and ROMs get more mature releases
I'm suffering from this defect as well. It's frankly astonishing that this phone behaves in this way. Really makes you wonder if anyone actually uses the phones before releasing such junk. What use is such fantastic hardware if it performs so badly in real use conditions. Every time I press home, loading. Try to run some javascript Web pages then go send a text, then back to browser and all tabs have to refresh. Mine is going back if it doesn't get fixed pretty quickly as it's practically unusable in this state. Battery is unsatisfactory as well. 2 hours on battery, screen on for an hour, 57% left?! What are they thinking seriously
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I'm suffering from this defect as well. It's frankly astonishing that this phone behaves in this way. Really makes you wonder if anyone actually uses the phones before releasing such junk. What use is such fantastic hardware if it performs so badly in real use conditions. Every time I press home, loading. Try to run some javascript Web pages then go send a text, then back to browser and all tabs have to refresh. Mine is going back if it doesn't get fixed pretty quickly as it's practically unusable in this state. Battery is unsatisfactory as well. 2 hours on battery, screen on for an hour, 57% left?! What are they thinking seriously
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If your battery is that bad you have a bad app running rampant or your battery is faulty.
For everyone else, even in settings if "Don't keep activities" is unchecked, try checking it and unchecking it. I read that sometimes it is still set to "Don't keep activities" even if it is unchecked and checking and unchecking it could solve the problem if this is the case. Doesn't hurt to try.
Hopefully one of the devs will make a Rom/kernel with better oom adjustments... I'm hoping.
the multitask implementation on this phone is terrible. I was using runkeeper, stopped to check something in my settings during the ride, phone closed the runkeeper application deleting my ride. It is getting annoying ...
In the interest of making things easy for those who are holding off on the KitKat OTA, I thought it might be a good idea to consolidate all of our experiences into one thread. This is intended to cover mainly the changes specific to this OTA over Razr M-flavored Jellybean.
I'll start with my experience/thoughts and edit in additional findings. (Note: I'm bootloader locked, and now unrooted.)
The Good
The UI is definitely smoother. It doesn't jitter or stall under heavy usage anywhere near as much as it did in Jellybean.
Battery life when the phone is asleep seems to have been improved a little.
USB audio out is now supported.
The occasional "screen jitter" that plagued the Jellybean build is gone.
KitKat's Quick Settings panel is quite handy.
The native lock screen now supports adding, removing, and rearranging widgets.
Although it can't be installed from the Play Store, the Google Experience Launcher can be sideloaded and works just fine.
The Neutral / Very Subjective
The AOSP keyboard has changed; the keys are smaller and, in landscape, very squashed. You may need to adjust to it (I'm trying, but it's a struggle) or find a replacement.
Battery life when the phone is actively in use has not been noticeably improved in my experience; but it hasn't been noticeably worsened, either.
There's now a shortcut to the camera from the lock screen, which can be used even if the phone is locked by a pattern/PIN/etc. (Great if you're a shutterbug; not so great if someone else decides to troll your Dropbox/Drive account.)
The Google Camera app works - but Photosphere can't be used, as the Razr M doesn't have a gyroscope.
The Bad
No more root, for those with locked BLs (me). (Saferoot fails, and many users are reporting losing root even when they try survival methods.)
Wi-Fi tethering via most apps (e.g., FoxFi) has been blocked, so now you must pay your carrier for the feature unless a new workaround is discovered.
All notifications I've seen so far now flash the notification light white, instead of unique colors. This may be frustrating for some who used the colors to decide whether to check the phone immediately or later. (Luckily, there are ways to address this.)
The Blur launcher is same 'ol, same 'ol. It uses a solid black background for the soft keys and notifications bar (rather than taking advantage of KitKat's transparency support), and it still has that Quick Settings menu on the left (which is redundant now). In addition, Holo Launcher (which I was using) doesn't account for the space used by the softkeys at all, making it difficult to use. (I've switched to Nova Launcher, which is working fine.)
I've experienced some weirdness with the application switcher. Sometimes it drops me to the launcher right after displaying the list, and sometimes apps will overwrite another's position on the list, or be dropped from the list entirely without reason (this is always temporary, however - just bring up the switcher again).
Some apps can no longer write to the SD card - or at least not wherever they please. We still have the Files browser, mercifully (but I favor Total Commander anyway, which seems to work perfectly).
The audio quick switch on the lock screen has been removed. Also, the buttons for entering a PIN are smaller.
(Leraeniesh) Under heavy usage, the Razr M may get hotter under KitKat than it did under Jellybean, and may drain the battery more.
(GPIX) Some users have noticed decreased network performance in some apps, such as Chrome or YouTube, while on Wi-Fi and with Wi-Fi power-saving enabled.
(GPIX) Several users have reported popping noises - when a sound begins to play, or in the middle of playback. (I haven't experienced it, however.)
Swype is no longer included. If you used it in Jellybean, you will need to purchase it on the Play Store after taking the OTA.
(ls3c6) Some have encountered problems with sharing the address book to paired devices over Bluetooth.
My opinion, overall:
It's a nice upgrade, but all of little problems I've encountered (bugs, Verizon blockades, the works) make this feel like a bit of a letdown after the 6-month wait. In the end, after just three days, I find myself wishing I could take the phone back to Jellybean.
Here's hoping for either some exploitable holes or maintenance updates.
My opinion
Leraeniesh said:
So I popped my sim back into the XT907 for the weekend, and heres what I've noticed (when compared to 4.1.2).
Higher temps - previously, my XT907 hovered around 85F-100F, but with 4.4.2, I've noticed it drift toward 110F with 5+ minutes of active use.
Worse battery life - On 4.1.2 I averaged around 20% after 16 hours moderate use. With 4.4.2, I'm averaging around 5% in the same span.
Lesser LTE coverage - This may be something with my area, but I can usually get 2-3 bars of LTE in the Livingston County area on 4.1.2 (I've noticed the XT907 accel in this category). While on 4.4.2, I could not get any LTE coverage in the same area, and could only find it within more populated areas.
Slower performance - I'll always be amazed by how quick the XT907 was on 4.1.2, beating out devices with similar specs in the same price category. With 4.4.2, I've noticed frame drops, stutters, and random reboots be a common occurrence over the last few days of usage.
Overall, I'm satisfied with 4.4.2, but I still prefer the overall usability with 4.1.2.
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Worth noting that I am using an unlocked bootloader, with CWM and SuperSU (only really did this to remove VZW bloat and install Xposed)
Leraeniesh said:
So I popped my sim back into the XT907 for the weekend, and heres what I've noticed (when compared to 4.1.2).
Higher temps - previously, my XT907 hovered around 85F-100F, but with 4.4.2, I've noticed it drift toward 110F with 5+ minutes of active use.
Worse battery life - On 4.1.2 I averaged around 20% after 16 hours moderate use. With 4.4.2, I'm averaging around 5% in the same span.
Lesser LTE coverage - This may be something with my area, but I can usually get 2-3 bars of LTE in the Livingston County area on 4.1.2 (I've noticed the XT907 accel in this category). While on 4.4.2, I could not get any LTE coverage in the same area, and could only find it within more populated areas.
Slower performance - I'll always be amazed by how quick the XT907 was on 4.1.2, beating out devices with similar specs in the same price category. With 4.4.2, I've noticed frame drops, stutters, and random reboots be a common occurrence over the last few days of usage.
Overall, I'm satisfied with 4.4.2, but I still prefer the overall usability with 4.1.2.
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On 4.1.2 the "signal bars" were calculated by a xml in, I believe, SystemUI.apk. You could simply adjust the figures to show more or less bars, which Moto adjusted to show more. But having no LTE maybe a bad radio or a problem stemming from a bad flash. My Razr M doesn't get hot, no random reboots, and battery life seems to be the same. I haven't had any problems on KitKat.
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On 4.1.2 the "signal bars" were calculated by a xml in, I believe, SystemUI.apk. You could simply adjust the figures to show more or less bars, which Moto adjusted to so more. But having no LTE maybe a bad radio or a problem stemming from a bad flash. My Razr M doesn't get hot, no random reboots, and battery life seems to be the same. I haven't had any problems on KitKat.
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Gonna be doing some more testing in that regard. Even my M7 with its garbage radios gets LTE just about everywhere in the Metro Detroit area.
So far my experience with 4.4.2 has been positive. I agree with OP's list and would like to add these under the issue category.
ISSUE:
Decreased WiFi effectiveness/throughput - There is a noticeable decrease in performance on apps like Youtube and Chrome web browser.
Audio Popping noises - Some experience a popping noise when the sound driver starts up while others experience it during playback.
I have had the KitKat OTA now for 2 days and haven't found anything major wrong. The changes to the keyboard bugged me but I use swiftkey so that was moot. I also have an issue I haven't seen listed yet. The new sound for screen taps....it seems to give that "popping" feedback (that ive seen listed as an issue on driver start-up) ALL the time. I maybe get 1 clear sound out of every 5-6 screen taps. That is the only real "problem" I can find as of this point though. Does anyone have any insight on that?
Also activated Dev Mode and changed to ART runtime. Might be placebo but app response seems to be noticeably better! Not groundbreaking by any means but better than 4.1.2 for sure. Overall I am happy with the upgrade. Rather, will be happy once a root exploit comes up (I miss my debloating! On that note though, disabling apps never seemed to work right with 4.1.2....after hitting disable the app would show back up in active processes after a short time. Now I've gone 24 hours and 3 phone reboots and that damn NFL app is STILL disabled and NOT running as a background process. Might just have been an issue with my phone in particular before, but its fixed now!)
I am generally happy.
It fixed all the issues I had with Dhackers KitKat.
and feels about the same once you have rid of all the Bloat.
I like and I am happy that we still surprisingly got the update unlike the Galaxy S3
Happy =)
Just wanted to comment on the heat issue mentioned above:
I have only had KitKat for 2 days but I have definitely noticed a difference in heat after extended use compared to JB. One of the things I really liked about my Razr M was lack of heat so hopefully this is a fluke and I wont notice it too much in the future.
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With that said, no big issues.
I don't like the keyboard -seems smaller, or something, The heptic feedback seems to be different too (for the worse IMO).
The lockscreen number pad seems smaller - definitely liked the number pad from JB.
I had to change the messaging app (hated the all white/lack of contrast). Using "8sms" if anyone is curious.
I also changed launchers to use the google-now launcher so the "okay google" thing would work on the homescreen and also get the transparency notification bar. But, in doing that I did lose the circle widgets which I liked. Can't win for losing sometimes...
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On a positive note, Chrome/google searches seem to be much faster. The UI seems about the same (no complaints with JB).
If battery life can increase then I'll be satisfied with update (so far, no difference).
My experience has been very positive. My phone was bootloader locked and not rooted before (and, of course, after) the OTA. I cleared the cache partition from the recovery menu post-install but have not done a FDR. General impressions:
-- UI is overall much snappier/quicker. Extremely noticeable.
-- Love the new quick settings panel that you can get to after pulling down the notifications shade.
-- KK's changes to how the SDcard works have not been a big deal at all for me. The native "Files" app seems to have complete read/write access, as does ES File Explorer.
-- Like the new clock feature to automatically add a "home" display when traveling outside a pre-defined timezone.
-- Hate the new way you set the alarm on the clock. (Really, whoever came up with that input method should be transferred to a department where s/he can never affect design decisions again.)
-- I miss the audio silencer/mute on the lockscreen.
-- Battery life has been interesting. When I first installed the update (morning of 05/15), battery life was definitely worse, probably by about 50%. It has gradually been getting better, however, and now is probably only about 20%-25% worse than JB. Why it would change I have no idea, but it definitely is (I've been keeping notes, and am sure it is actually happening). I have noticed, using the Battery History details screen, that there are a LOT less wakelocks in KK than JB. In JB, I used to see tons of "Awake" indicators on that screen that did not pair with "Screen On" indicators. In KK, there are very few incidences of "Awake" that are not paired with "Screen On." Someone smarter than me will have to explain how that translates into worse battery life.
-- It may be my imagination, but it seems like the battery charges faster w/ KK. If it's not my imagination, I wonder if that means that the apparent decrease in battery life is really an issue of improper calibration/accuracy.
I have not experienced some of the things others have reported:
-- No random reboots.
-- No changes to WiFi or 4G signals. I don't use Bluetooth so can't comment on that.
-- No popping noise when using audio. (Note: I have seen some reports in other forums that a FDR fixes this issue for those who have it.)
I'm on locked BL, definitly non root, and I happen to installed MotoCam from a store n IT DID INSTALLED. .
Opens up, takes pictures beautifully. .
Only problems are the slide in menu is glitchy AND after taking HDR pic, cam UI is not there. Only live cam feed.
Other than these issues, it's playing nicely ESPECIALLY auto HDR does work, surprisingly!
How can I make those problems go away??
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GPlX said:
So far my experience with 4.4.2 has been positive. I agree with OP's list and would like to add these under the issue category.
ISSUE:
Decreased WiFi effectiveness/throughput - There is a noticeable decrease in performance on apps like Youtube and Chrome web browser.
Audio Popping noises - Some experience a popping noise when the sound driver starts up while others experience it during playback.
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go into wifi settings...in the setting "uncheck" the box "wi-fi optimization" it made my WiFi significantly better..
Nidstang said:
-- No popping noise when using audio. (Note: I have seen some reports in other forums that a FDR fixes this issue for those who have it.)
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Attempted a FDR on my phone, unfortunately it did not work for me. I will attempt to clear the cache partition to see if that may help the issue if
possible. So far i can only get the boot menu for a couple seconds and im lucky to get a selection in time.
EDIT: I cleared the cache partition, no effect. (NOTE: it seems to get into the recovery menu after selecting it at boot menu, you have to hold power & vol UP for a couple seconds)
crazy4android said:
go into wifi settings...in the setting "uncheck" the box "wi-fi optimization" it made my WiFi significantly better..
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That is an excellent point. I'll shut off the optimization and will edit my results in after tinkering with it for a while.
EDIT2: Without doing speedtests etc. It is very noticable that the wifi has improved. Youtube & other apps load as fast as they did on 4.1.2
Haven't looked into it so this MIGHT be a feature of the Google Now Launcher I installed, but I JUST noticed if you swipe down from the clock area of the new lock screen, you can add widgets! Am I crazy or is this a new feature on our phones? If so, LOVE it! Helps mitigate the loss of the quicklinks from our old 4.1.2 lock screen.
kashif87 said:
I'm on locked BL, definitly non root, and I happen to installed MotoCam from a store n IT DID INSTALLED. .
Opens up, takes pictures beautifully. .
Only problems are the slide in menu is glitchy AND after taking HDR pic, cam UI is not there. Only live cam feed.
Other than these issues, it's playing nicely ESPECIALLY auto HDR does work, surprisingly!
How can I make those problems go away??
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maybe you can uninstall updates to the cam in apps
bwer1233 said:
Haven't looked into it so this MIGHT be a feature of the Google Now Launcher I installed, but I JUST noticed if you swipe down from the clock area of the new lock screen, you can add widgets! Am I crazy or is this a new feature on our phones? If so, LOVE it! Helps mitigate the loss of the quicklinks from our old 4.1.2 lock screen.
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Lockscreen widgets were introduced in Android 4.2.2.
Just want to let people know that the Google Now Launcher is working great on 4.4.2 including the "ok Google" functionality.
You can't download it from the play store. I just grabbed the apk from this thread.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-and-gpe-devices-apk-mirrored-for-all-others/
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rooted + cwm
can't use "memory" feature under settings, while calculating settings app would crash
how can I go to hiddent menu? *#*#4636#*#* is failed until my M get kk updrade...
tieuvienson2005 said:
how can I go to hiddent menu? *#*#4636#*#* is failed until my M get kk updrade...
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There are many "phone info" apps in the Market. Or create the short cut with Activity Launcher.
Also the Cam sucks on my Wife's m so get the Lenovo from my Moto x signature link.
[Q] "This app is using a lot of battery" notifications for Spotify on G3 Lollipop
I am using Spotify on LG G3 with Lollipop update installed (Build number: LRX21R.A1421650137, Software version: V20h-EUR-XX) and I keep getting a notification from "Android System" that "This app is using a lot of battery", asking me whether I want to close it (see attachment).
I don't get this notification for any other apps (even the ones that use a lot of battery), and while Spotify does seem to use too much battery, it is not significantly more than other apps (at least as far as I can see).
I am all in on Spotify, so even if it's true, I would like to disable this notification, but because it is a system notification, I can't turn it off, but it pops up ALL THE TIME, and is driving me mad.
Has anyone experienced similar issues, or know how I make the notification go away permanently?
There also seems to be a G3-specific Reddit thread about this issue (I can't post the link, because I am a new user.)
Same stuff is happening to me. I think it's just the amount of batt Spotify consumes. I noticed is draining far more batt than PowerAmp for example. Hope they improve the app.
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Same stuff is happening to me. I think it's just the amount of batt Spotify consumes. I noticed is draining far more batt than PowerAmp for example. Hope they improve the app.
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There is nothing to improve, Spotify accesses the network to load your music. This uses more energy than Poweramp could use, no wonder! Still the power consumption is nothing compared to the screen or whatever.
Everything is fine with that and the problem is just this useless notification. I also did not find a solution by now. Interesting thing is that I have a LG G3 too, but I can't imagine this to be device specific. Isn't that a lollipop "feature"?
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There is nothing to improve, Spotify accesses the network to load your music. This uses more energy than Poweramp could use, no wonder! Still the power consumption is nothing compared to the screen or whatever.
Everything is fine with that and the problem is just this useless notification. I also did not find a solution by now. Interesting thing is that I have a LG G3 too, but I can't imagine this to be device specific. Isn't that a lollipop "feature"?
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I don't think this is a fair assessment of the problem. Other music player apps which conceivably have the same type of usage, e.g. Google Play streaming which I also tried out, certainly didn't cause this warning. In fact, no other app of any type on my phone causes this problem, some of which use more battery than Spotify.
The warning that appears from the Android OS seems to based on real battery statistics gathered by the OS. If I click on the nofitication, it takes me to the battery up that is built in to Lollipop, which shows battery usage percentages for each running app. Spotify is indeed very high up on the list, and based on these statistics seem to cause the battery to detoriorate faster than normal.
The way I see that there is one of three possibilities:
Spotify, for some unknown reason, uses much more battery than it should, e.g. there is a long thread on Spotify community about Android and massive battery drain. This seems to be anecdotally related to "keep awake" and/or SD card. On pre-Lollipop versions of Android, there was no system-level battery usage statistics so people could not point a definite finger to the problem, but with Lollipop the system can for the first time record and notify this higher-than-normal battery usage.
Spotify battery usage is within normal limits and there is a bug in Android battery usage notification/statistics that is causing this notification to show up incorrectly.
Sptofiy battery usage is within normal limits, there is no bug in Adroid battery usage notifications, but in LG G3 Lollipop ROM, LG messed something up in Android which means the notification shows up incorrectly.
It has to be one of these three issues, anything else is not a possibility. Regardless of which one it is (hopefully whoever caused the problem will acknowledge and fix it eventually), it drives me mad that this notification keeps popping up every time I use Spotify and there is no way for me to disable it, because it is a system level notification.
I believe it is ultimately a flaw in Android OS or LG ROM that there is no way to take note of and turn off this notification, even if it is valid.
What is strange is that I have not seen this issue reported for other Lollipop devices, e.g. Nexus 5/6. It seems to be G3-specific at the moment. As I mentioned before, there is a G3-specific Reddit thread about it as well, which I can't paste the link to at the moment (nor can I post the link to Spotify Android battery drain thread...)
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I don't think this is a fair assessment of the problem. Other music player apps which conceivably have the same type of usage, e.g. Google Play streaming which I also tried out, certainly didn't cause this warning. In fact, no other app of any type on my phone causes this problem, some of which use more battery than Spotify.
The warning that appears from the Android OS seems to based on real battery statistics gathered by the OS. If I click on the nofitication, it takes me to the battery up that is built in to Lollipop, which shows battery usage percentages for each running app. Spotify is indeed very high up on the list, and based on these statistics seem to cause the battery to detoriorate faster than normal.
The way I see that there is one of three possibilities:
Spotify, for some unknown reason, uses much more battery than it should, e.g. there is a long thread on Spotify community about Android and massive battery drain. This seems to be anecdotally related to "keep awake" and/or SD card. On pre-Lollipop versions of Android, there was no system-level battery usage statistics so people could not point a definite finger to the problem, but with Lollipop the system can for the first time record and notify this higher-than-normal battery usage.
Spotify battery usage is within normal limits and there is a bug in Android battery usage notification/statistics that is causing this notification to show up incorrectly.
Sptofiy battery usage is within normal limits, there is no bug in Adroid battery usage notifications, but in LG G3 Lollipop ROM, LG messed something up in Android which means the notification shows up incorrectly.
It has to be one of these three issues, anything else is not a possibility. Regardless of which one it is (hopefully whoever caused the problem will acknowledge and fix it eventually), it drives me mad that this notification keeps popping up every time I use Spotify and there is no way for me to disable it, because it is a system level notification.
I believe it is ultimately a flaw in Android OS or LG ROM that there is no way to take note of and turn off this notification, even if it is valid.
What is strange is that I have not seen this issue reported for other Lollipop devices, e.g. Nexus 5/6. It seems to be G3-specific at the moment. As I mentioned before, there is a G3-specific Reddit thread about it as well, which I can't paste the link to at the moment (nor can I post the link to Spotify Android battery drain thread...)
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...it's still the memory bug, I quote; "It seems one of the bugs that plagued Android 5.0 Lollipop is still haunting some users who recently updated to Android 5.1 Lollipop, the first major update to Android Lollipop.
Some users have reported a memory leak issue in the Android 5.1 update that causes apps to crash and even fills device's memory." (gadgetsndtv.com)
Sorry but I agree with rikoe on this one. if this is an Android 5.0 issue, I would have seen the same alert on other applications (I use like 40) none of them are showing up this alert, only Spotify.
Then I tested it about batt consumption. While POWERAMP uses 5%-6% for 1.2 hour of music playing, Spotify uses 10%11% (playing only saved songs and not using 3g or 4g at ALL, only 2G with streaming disabled)
Spotify needs to improve the app.
I see this notification when using TuneIn Radio Pro, which suggests its not a Spotify specific issue.
Naturally TuneIn Radio does use a lot of battery whilst streaming over 3G / 4G, especially if I'm also playing that stream at high volume through the phones speakers. The same I assume is true with Spotify.
I find this notification to be very irritating. Whilst this function might have limited uses in identifying rogue apps which are have significant battery drain, I am fully aware that in this instance my chosen use of my phone will result in faster than normal battery usage. I don't need a notification constantly alerting me to this, especially a notification in the style of Lollipop notifications, which even after seeing this issue for several weeks I still automatically assume to be a genuine notification (FB, Whatsapp etc) rather than an annoying system warning which I can't disable.
My best guess (based on this not being reported for any other device, LG or not) would be that this is an option built in to Lollipop which LG have either chosen to enable and/or set the threshold for activation too low. If LG insist on having this sort of option it needs to either be tucked away in the Battery Settings section, to be viewed at will, or it needs further functionality to allow me to 'approve' TuneIn Radio, Spotify or any other high battery usage app.
LG do seem to like to baby their users, whether that be through this particular issue, constant volume warnings or telling me to unplug my fully charged phone to save power. I don't like it and it isn't improving their chances of my next phone being another LG.
Let's hope they fix this quietly with the next update.
I believe, it is in the LG Rom. Because I have been using AOSP for 4 months and I've never had this problem until I updated to LG lollipop rom. Vs985
Another LG G3 user here.
I had this issue on LG stock lollipop, it dissapeared when I installed Cloudy 2.1. Yesterday I upgraded to Cloudy 2.2 and the problem reappeared.
I am now trying another lock screen (echo) to see if it dissapears.
Also happens with Spotify on the LG G Flex 2. Slightly ironic considering it came with Spotify (or at least the Sprint variant does).
I'm getting this popup for different programs, all are listed as using 0% since last full charge (which I do once per day)
I was just searching this issue for my LG style 2 plus... I have android 6.0.1. Like martenw I get 0 battery usage since last charge, however the app causing me issues is jet audio. So I was really hoping someone has made an xposed module to turn this nuisance alert/warning off...
Hi All,
Anybody here with the same issue ?
Looks like a software issue/touch unresponsive issue because usually I find it coming back to normal once I press power button and unlock it again.
Sounds like RAM allocation issue, isn't ?
Thinking to sell it. Please suggest if you guys know a better way to deal with it !
Even if I go to SC, I cannot reproduce the issue at that particular time. They will just reset it and give me back, and that where I don't want to waste my time.
Does this looks fruitful to flash stock firmware again by the unbrick way ? I feel like that will be me last try.
You seem new here, so welcome on xda
One thing you should keep in mind is to be as precise as possible when presenting an issue, your description right now is not very clear, by the title it sounded like your phone actually froze, which could have been a ram or even a power management issue, but after reading your post it seems more likely that your display was wet, or that you were charging your phone, capacitive touchscreens are sensible to that.
Usually a frozen phone does not respond to the power button like yours did, and a ram issue seems very unlikely tbh
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You seem new here, so welcome on xda
One thing you should keep in mind is to be as precise as possible when presenting an issue, your description right now is not very clear, by the title it sounded like your phone actually froze, which could have been a ram or even a power management issue, but after reading your post it seems more likely that your display was wet, or that you were charging your phone, capacitive touchscreens are sensible to that.
Usually a frozen phone does not respond to the power button like yours did, and a ram issue seems very unlikely tbh
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My style of using I believe is the same and I had no such issues in my Cool 1 ever in an year. Was a lot better in every way. Picked it up because I loved the looks, but have lost my trust on Huawei. They really need a lot of improvement.
i am having the same issues as the OP (Although i don't know what he means by "going to the SC")
the phone just goes through moments of extreme lag for about 10-30 seconds, sometimes longer, and it makes the phone COMPLETELY unusable during those times. it happens at least once every other day or so, sometimes several times a day, and sometimes it only lasts about 10 seconds, although on a few occasions, it has lasted several minutes, the phone will "attempt" to respond to inputs, but it gets nowhere quick, opening apps i did not click on, closing apps that weren't open, black-screening, half-screening (app on half the screen), etc.. sometimes i have to just power cycle..
i have the exact same feeling as the OP in that i want to sell the phone. (although i type much better, i'll assume english is a second language for him/her)
i like EMUI a lot.. although i think i want a galaxy s8/s9 now.
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Tirken said:
i am having the same issues as the OP (Although i don't know what he means by "going to the SC")
the phone just goes through moments of extreme lag for about 10-30 seconds, sometimes longer, and it makes the phone COMPLETELY unusable during those times. it happens at least once every other day or so, sometimes several times a day, and sometimes it only lasts about 10 seconds, although on a few occasions, it has lasted several minutes, the phone will "attempt" to respond to inputs, but it gets nowhere quick, opening apps i did not click on, closing apps that weren't open, black-screening, half-screening (app on half the screen), etc.. sometimes i have to just power cycle..
i have the exact same feeling as the OP in that i want to sell the phone. (although i type much better, i'll assume english is a second language for him/her)
i like EMUI a lot.. although i think i want a galaxy s8/s9 now.
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Since yours is the us variant, I'm assuming you've got 3 gb of ram instead of 4 gb, in which case a ram issue seems much more likely.
Not much of an issue actually, just that you probably had lots of apps open at the same time, leading to almost full ram (so the system starts closing background and even foreground apps if needed, leading to the strange behaviour you noticed).
Just remember to close apps you don't use and you'll be fine
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Just remember to close apps you don't use and you'll be fine
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It's 2018 and I think the OP and I know how smartphones work. I am coming from a phone with 2GB RAM and it has no such issues, no matter how many apps and/or games are open. Google explicitly states that closing background apps is unnecessary, and I should think EMUI offers an improvement over stock Android, not a detrimental experience. However, if you are correct and it is the RAM, it is not acceptable and needs to be fixed or I'm buying a new phone from a different company. In today's world, phones will open links to Chrome and from Chrome open reddit, xda app, pinterest, link to Facebook, share to Twitter, etc etc.. every time I click on a button I should not be having to back track to make sure I only have a certain amount of apps open. Nougat limits max open apps to 20 BTW, marshmallow it was 30.. But RAM management CPU management should be better. If it's of any interest, my reported "free" ram always stays at or above 1-1.5GB so I don't think its ram.. CPU or software problem, possibly.. But my Temps are good as well. Yes it's the 3GB version
Just a quick thought of something you could check (I also have the US 3GB version and was experiencing the same issue). Open up Settings > Battery, and other the "Other" section click "Consumption". See if there's any apps there that are keeping the phone awake and preventing it from sleeping. I would get constant lag after only a few hours of use, and it was intermittent just like you're experiencing. I was about to send the phone back, but checked this setting first. Turns out, the CNN app was running the CPU at nearly 100% for hours on end and preventing the phone from deep sleeping. Once I uninstalled that app, I haven't had issues since then. Could be something similar, just a thought. YMMV.
And by the way, it's NOT the ram. 3GB is plenty. You can see how much is being used on the app select screen, and I've never used more than 1.5 with a ton of apps in the background.
Let me help you there guys....i got the US variant too and has these freezing and lags all over the place, what i discover and did was:
1- Not all the apps works well with the phone hardware(they told me that somewhere) so try to test the apps you put on the phone.
2-Delete all the unnecessary apps from emui, that will give you less lag.
3-Check the battery consuming apps like the guy said and if you want turn on the close apps on screen lock.
Now after all of these my phone have been moving better but the problem isnt the ram, is the software so wait a little more so they can fix this cause is really a good value phone
It has to be the RAM management. Huawei must have optimized the software for 4GB, and then released a US 3GB version without changing anything, so it's screwed up even though phone is showing lots of free RAM.
Wao man thats the best explanation for this problem thanks man
It isn't and never was a RAM thing. Android's memory management essentially force closes apps (but shows them in recents) if it needs more memory. Note there is no work involved in that and you'd never know it until you switch apps and it has to reload, shows logo, etc. Amazing how non-solutions we're brought up multiple times and even thanked. Insert that's-not-how-any-of-this-works meme.
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It isn't and never was a RAM thing. Android's memory management essentially force closes apps (but shows them in recents) if it needs more memory. Note there is no work involved in that and you'd never know it until you switch apps and it has to reload, shows logo, etc. Amazing how non-solutions we're brought up multiple times and even thanked. Insert that's-not-how-any-of-this-works meme.
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Well, yeah, ram issues nowadays should not be present, but I do speak on a basis, I have experienced bad performance and foreground apps getting killed on a nexus 5, which has 2 gb of ram and stock android. I have no idea what's emui's ram management policy, but on a scale, this would be the least likely cause for sure
I have had my P20 for about three month now... and it's OK but the Huawei "enhancements" and some other things are very frustrating.
1) Almost none of my "background" stuff works... Meaning things like Google Photo backup, SMS Backup & Restore scheduled backups, and other scheduled services don't run until I open the apps. Not much good to have automatic backups if they aren't automatic. Also, Google Rewards does not notify me of new surveys. Things that happen in the background seems to happen for a short time after you open the app, then they just stop.
2) Multitasking is a joke... On my old Moto G5+, I could have Facebook, Candy Crush Saga (don't judge, I have invested too much time to quit), Pandora, MeWe, Gmail, Messenger, Nine Mail, and a host of other apps running with no issues switching back and forth without them "reloading". On my P20 with the same RAM and supposedly a faster processor, if I am in Candy Crush Saga and switch to Facebook, then switch back, Candy Crush reloads when I was in the middle of level... Much less trying to have Pandora or a few other things going simultaneously. And yet I typically have 1.8-2.1GB of RAM available, it's impossible to actually multitask without apps restarting constantly.
3) Delayed or no notifications... From most apps... Gmail, Facebook, XDA, Nine (a real problem, this is my work email), Calendar, etc. Almost every app that isn't open gives delayed notification, sometimes a minute or two, sometimes hours, sometimes not until it is opened. Other times notifications show up, but no sound is given at all.
These things all seem to be related to how aggressive the memory and application management is to maintain the battery... Sort of making up for the hardware's inefficiencies through software. But it works, battery life is quite good.
4) Inability to change "default" apps like the Gallery... I hate the Gallery, but I love Google Photos as the "gallery" app. You can change it in the settings to the default, but few applications "honor" that setting. And for some reason the Gallery doesn't see all the photos I download with Photos. Weird... And even when you set other non-Huawei apps as defaults, it only works sometimes. This goes back to EMUI's software framework I think. Never had this issue on Motos, Nokias, Pixels, etc.
5) More of an annoyance than anything else, but what the heck is with the lock screen wallpaper? I can't get rid of the Huawei papers, they show up no matter what I do or how many of my own I add, the stock ones keep showing up. I have gone into the lock screen settings and disabled ALL of the embedded ones, and only my folder of about 50 or so images, and I keep getting the stock Huawei ones show up in the rotation.
Then there is the lockups... For example, open Google and search for something, switch to images, and maybe turn on GIF filter or something... This thing will grind to a halt in nothing flat, granted my old Moto would lag a bit, but it was 100 times better than this thing. I get the same thing in some apps but not others without consistency. Or if my UC-One app for work rings, sometimes it works, other times it locks up tight and needs a hard reboot to recover... No other phone out of the 80 or so at work does this. It's just so inconsistent.
And my last gripe is the data lag... At random times, regardless if on mobile data or WiFi, it will just lag out for 10 seconds to 2 minutes, usually once or twice a day, but not consistently... Everything looks fine, good signal strength regardless of source and other devices work fine, but no data will be moving and videos freeze and buffer, Facebook pictures don't load, etc. Granted, this really started after the May 2019 update.
It sounds like I hate this phone, but I do like a lot of things about it... The battery life if good, the charge times are good, the camera is excellent, the sound quality is acceptable, nice screen, not too big or overweight. But man, that new Pixel 3a XL at $20/month is sure looking pretty good.
Am I all alone here, or do others have the same issues?
Oh dude. 99 % of things you mentioned can be handled in the phone settings like telling phone not to shut apps in the background. You should Google before you write things down.
Ragarding your last point with lag: try doing a soft reset and install you carrier settings once again.
I've got the phone for half a year now and after searching and changing some settings it works better than anything else I've seen on a phone I paid 350 EUR for.
EuBir said:
Oh dude. 99 % of things you mentioned can be handled in the phone settings like telling phone not to shut apps in the background. You should Google before you write things down.
Ragarding your last point with lag: try doing a soft reset and install you carrier settings once again.
I've got the phone for half a year now and after searching and changing some settings it works better than anything else I've seen on a phone I paid 350 EUR for.
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I take no offense from your comment, but I am not a noob... I have been working with Android since Eclair and smartphones in general much longer, including working on several ROM development teams and am an RC here. I did Google and DID turn off Huawei's "App Launch" management that I assume you are talking about trying to stop the optimizations from EMUI, and a few other things, but this is AFTER that. Although some of them seemed to help a little, it doesn't fix the problems.
Not only have I soft reset, I have done complete factory resets and all of my carrier settings are current... The lag also occurs on WiFi.
My post was kind of a rant, not necessarily looking for a solution unless there was one, and I was looking to see if I was the only one with these issues. Nor am I saying this isn't a good phone... Many of the things I have talked about would not bother many people.
In my case, I'm happy with the phone. Obviously I had some other problem, especially in some of the points you mentioned in the post. As the backup of Google Photos that did not work, but when I opened the app. However, selecting that all applications start manually has worked correctly for me.
I have disabled several applications using ADB. I know it does not erase them definitively, but hey, it's something. I also hate or just do not like the amount of applications that the phone has installed, I see them as unnecessary. I've always tried to use Google apps: calendar, dialer, calculator, clock, contacts, file manager, keep notes, etc. (that means I also disabled the original dialer).
But there is something that haunts me since I upgraded to EMUI 9. And it is a bug in recent applications that has a blue shadow that only appears when using a launcher. As I read, the solution is to disable the EMUI launcher, I did it once, but I prefer the appearance of recent applications of EMUI 9 than the previous ones. (Although I believe that this is poorly implemented).
Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
Your battery will take a small hit.
The biggest issue is the wifi, very capricious
I have no problem watching a 1080p stream on twitch... but loading the newsfeed on FB, twitter, is sometimes impossible. I have to switch to 4g to load the newsfeed and it's very annoying ... Sometimes i can browse the internet for 5minutes, then nothing would load, for no reason ...
The battery management settings is also very aggressive, and notifications often displayed 1h, 2h late. Occasionally i get a "1 message from " " ... 1 day" on messenger app
One thing i really miss is viper4audio ... I did everything, i can't get this thing to work.
Appart from that, it's a good medium range phone.
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The biggest issue is the wifi, very capricious
I have no problem watching a 1080p stream on twitch... but loading the newsfeed on FB, twitter, is sometimes impossible. I have to switch to 4g to load the newsfeed and it's very annoying ... Sometimes i can browse the internet for 5minutes, then nothing would load, for no reason ...
The battery management settings is also very aggressive, and notifications often displayed 1h, 2h late. Occasionally i get a "1 message from " " ... 1 day" on messenger app
One thing i really miss is viper4audio ... I did everything, i can't get this thing to work.
Appart from that, it's a good medium range phone.
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I don't know what phone you have.I think you are on a wrong thread.This is for Huawei P20 which is a premium phone not a midrange phone.
It's not a 800€+ phone, and there's the p20 pro. I bought it for 379€ in europe, just a month after it's release. So for me it's more a medium range phone ^^ the top medium range
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Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
Your battery will take a small hit.
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Thank you so much for this. I was so tired of having to reload recent apps. It was so bad on my phone that just switching between 2 apps would close the first.
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It's not a 800€+ phone, and there's the p20 pro. I bought it for 379€ in europe, just a month after it's release. So for me it's more a medium range phone ^^ the top medium range
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Well,for me there are the specifications that make a phone premium/midrange or entry-level.The P20 has specifications that matches a premium 2018 phone.If you were so lucky to find a new P20 in spring 2018 for less than 400 euros,good for you.
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Disable Huawei power genie app. I think it will solve all your problems with background apps.
You can find instructions online.
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Ryandos said:
Thank you so much for this. I was so tired of having to reload recent apps. It was so bad on my phone that just switching between 2 apps would close the first.
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You don't need to disable the Power Genius app, it can actually do some good... disabling it is functionally equivalent to going to Settings -> Battery -> App Launch and turning off "Manage All Automatically" and that will leave you like most other Android device with the kernel managing everything.
I disabled this at first after @costindaemon mentioned it, but Gmail app notifications, especially for non-Gmail accounts, got wonky... So I re-enabled Power Genius but turned it off as I stated above, then went through the apps and turned some on that I wanted "suppressed"... Gmail is an enigma here though, if it's management is turned off I had issues with notifications and accounts, and in App Launch it had a warning saying something like that, so I turned it on for that app and it's been good since. I have since just monitored the usage with GSAM's App Sucker and anything high on the battery usage list that I didn't want I turned on the Manage Automatically for that app and it no longer misbehaved. Think I have found the happy medium here.
I still have some issues with the phone, most just annoyances now... not to the level of frustration I was at before though. Still looking at that Pixel 3a XL though... it's in the cart, financing approved, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger yet. lol
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You don't need to disable the Power Genius app, it can actually do some good...
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You're right. I made a mistake in thinking that disabling power genie worked, when in reality it was just rebooting my phone that temporarily fixed the problem.
I did a bit of googling into a "ram leak" on the P20 and it was actually because I was using a 3rd party launcher (Nova). The solution was to disable the stock Huawei launcher, and since I did that 2 days ago my free ram has not gone below 1000mb. I've installed another launcher in case Nova mucks up.
But it looks like you've moved onto the 3a now, hopefully it's better than the awful software experience that comes with this phone xD. I definitely won't be buying Huawei in the future.
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You're right. I made a mistake in thinking that disabling power genie worked, when in reality it was just rebooting my phone that temporarily fixed the problem.
I did a bit of googling into a "ram leak" on the P20 and it was actually because I was using a 3rd party launcher (Nova). The solution was to disable the stock Huawei launcher, and since I did that 2 days ago my free ram has not gone below 1000mb. I've installed another launcher in case Nova mucks up.
But it looks like you've moved onto the 3a now, hopefully it's better than the awful software experience that comes with this phone xD. I definitely won't be buying Huawei in the future.
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Yeah, I got my Pixel on Monday... Already think it's 10 times better, except the camera. That 2x "optical zoom" was damn nice although the Pixel's pictures seem a better quality even though they take longer to process. For the camera, I'm still giving the edge to the Pixel but I haven't played with it much yet.
All my issues are gone now and battery life is noticeably better. The Huawei will be going up on the local classified ad sites soon, hopefully the market for them isn't completely tanked.
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Your lockscreen issue is solved by deleting the excess wallpapers from the lockscreen. As you cycle into the first one, tap it and...
Any issues you have don't exist for me. Likely because i always first disable/uninstall most major google apps immediately.
Any problems i've noticed don't appear to me as device specific but rather OS related. To me, this thing performs quite well with impressively low battery drain by comparison.