AFTV Remote on Android Phones - For gaming? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

AFTV Remote on Android Phones - For gaming? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I found the simple way to pair the AFTV remote to my Android phone (holding the Menu button while searching) and now control my Android with the little thing.
I grabbed Crossy Road on Amazon Appstore, and now have it on both my AFTV and phone. Of course, only the AFTV version lets me play with the controller. So the question is this... What app is good to make the AFTV's basic controls work on the screen?
I had the Sixaxis Controller app on my Galaxy S3 long ago, and that proved useful for controlling most non-controller games (Sonic Dash springs to mind). What's good for that with little remotes like the AFTV's then?

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[Q] Games on Ouya

Does it have a mapping tool so you can play games that don't support a controller or can you not download them at all?

don't know really. It has some kind of touch pad on it. But since Ouya has a controller, the games designed for it will have gamepad inputs.
for other games, who knows yet. Maybe Sixasxis Controller app may be able to help. It has touch simulator profiles. It's rather hit and miss on it's success. It's not the app, but some game's touch inputs are not static, so it makes it more difficult to setup.

they support sixaxis controllers natively, and there are rumours that a few people will be porting their controller-mapping apps to OUYA, for the purpose of adapting those touchscreen .apk's...
There is nothing so far on the marketplace or on the major OUYA forums

Has anyone tested the Interworks Controller Pro U (aka Retro Classic Controller) with the Ouya (or any Android device)? I'm especially interested in joystick functionality...
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Controllers and Play Store Apps

I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?

player911 said:
I've been "collecting" lots of games such as Batman, Spiderman, Final Fantasy, etc games from the Play Store anticipating using them on my Ouya... but now I am not so sure. Looks like they use their own store to pump apps and games through. I would hate to pay for the same game twice through different stores when using the same platform. I've done some homework and looks like the answer is "NO" they won't play out of the box but we are able to side load the apk files off of a USB. What are some comments on this?
Also, the reason I am really interested in the Ouya is the "controller" support. Any Android gamer should know that getting multiple controllers to read and operate independently is a real pain. On my MK808 Android Stick, each controller maps out the same, so both controllers function as Player 1. I REALLY love the option to have up to 4 controllers work for up to 4 players. I know they sell their own Controller, but does this work with existing bluetooth controllers such as a Moga or PS3 SixAxis (if MAC is paired via PC).
It launched today in Best Buy and I'm thinking of Picking one up. I know eventually the devs will hack it to do some crazy stuff but the controller support is VERY important. If I can't link up additional players, then I might as well stick to my MK808.
Long story short:
Can you side load an emulator and play 2-4 players (Mario Kart)?
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The subject of should OUYA outright support the Play Store is something highly talked about on the forums (If you're interested: ) I've come to the conclusion that no, it should not be supported for the sake of both the OUYA and the gamers. WIth that said, you can always try sideloading paid apps and see if they work. If the game calls the Google Infrastructure as DRM, it will not work, but if the game only has local DRM and you manage to remove it (I know nothing about that) or there is no DRM at all, it will work. I have a few paid apps that work perfectly. One warning, though, I know for sure Square Enix games do not work without hacking the apk.
The controller support is awesome! There are other threads about confirmed controllers working, but I know for sure the SixAxis, Wiimote, and WIRED 360 (not the play and charge pack) controllers all work.
As to answer your question, this thing works as a great emulator machine. I've messed with a few emulators and they all support multiplayer, some even support multiplayer over network (i.e. between 2 OUYA's, may even work cross platform, like PC-OUYA or OUYA-Phone/Tablet, but I do not know for sure). I have not tried any over network play, but theoretically it should work.
For the most part you don't need to sideload any emulators, as most are already on the OUYA store. In fact, I wouldn't recommend using any sideloaded emulators unless you have to (i.e. none in the store) because they just won't work as well with the controllers or TV.
With that said, if absolutely nothing else (and there is a lot more I love about the OUYA), this thing is a GREAT emulator machine! Buy yourself a 500GB external HD, throw on all your games from the old 2600 to PS1 and you can play them all. They even have a semi-working DS emulator, along with a PSP one confirmed on it's way! There is even an NES emulator that has it's own indie game store built in!
Bottomline yes, it can do what you want and if you're into it for mainly emulation, you can't go wrong.

Yes sideloading works, I've played N64 with 3 people on Mario Kart 64.
I have 2 ouya controllers and a usb controller, worked perfectly fine. You just need to set the player controller number. SNES and N64 emus have the options to bind a specific controller to player 1 2 3 4 etc

Perfect! The controller was the big issue because like I said, other devices work with 1 device, but multiple controllers all read as Player 1. Even Mugen64. It isn't the emulator but the actual OS and how it handles controllers.
So I am super excited that lots of controllers are working. I have a Wireless 360 (PC Dongle), Sixaxis, Corded PC gamepad, and a Moga, along with a slew of Wii Controllers. I really just need a few controllers working at the same time for when friends come over and stuff. The software I am not too overly concerned about. I'd rather have games available that are SPECIFICALLY designed for the OUYA then a slew of mixed supported games.
I'm really wanting to pick one up. I already have a few 500+gb HDD's laying around I can dump roms too. Even my old 16gb USB Stick would suffice for most stuff.

Controller issues ans Play Store apps with costs
Hey guys,
this should be the right thread for my current main issues with the Ouya.
1. Yesterday I had some friends over and we tried to play Bombsquad with three controllers. I have two Ouya controllers and as the Ouya and also Bombsquad support other controllers like PS3 and Xbox gamepads I tried to connect a third controller. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to connect any of them (of course the Ouya controllers work fine). It seems thet the console doesn’t even recognize something being connected via USB. I tried to connect a Dualshock 3 Playstation controller via cable, a Xbox (wireless) gamepad via cable and a Xbox controller for windows (wired, Razer Onza TE). None of them were recognized by the system, neither in the game nor in the Ouya main menu.
Is there any special setting I have to apply in order to get them to work?
I know there is also the option to connect smartphones or tablets to play Bombsquad, but this is not an option because I have 5 controllers lying around and I rather want to make use of them instead of playing on my phone.
2. Also, I have a problem with the Google Play Store I installed on the console. I followed the instructions from the forum (Rooting the Ouya, installing Xposed framework, installing the Google Plus Store app). After starting the app for the first time I typed in my account detail and everything worked fine. However, I only have access to the free apps in the store and not to the apps which cost money.
How do I get access to the whole Play Store with all the apps?
Thanks for your answers and please let me know if you need further information.
Greetings from Germany
3rr0r333

[Q] Remote control of Fire TV from another device?

This is somewhat of a general question but in this case my interest is around the Fire TV.
Samsung released their Homesync device some time ago (it's been a failure unfortunately) and it had a remote control screen mirrioring capability they referred to as "Mouse Mirroring" where you could see the display of the device on your own and interact with it as if you were actually on the device, touchscreen and all.
Does anyone know if there are any apps that might provide this kind of remote control for a Fire TV or other device like a Google TV? My goal is to use my Note 3 (or some other future device/tablet) to display what the media player device is outputting and in that way remotely control it.
Thanks for any responses.

I looked into building an app to do this, but from what I've found, code would need to run on FireTV and have root access and compiled with the system key. But I would love to be proven wrong.
-Gregg
santiagodraco said:
This is somewhat of a general question but in this case my interest is around the Fire TV.
Samsung released their Homesync device some time ago (it's been a failure unfortunately) and it had a remote control screen mirrioring capability they referred to as "Mouse Mirroring" where you could see the display of the device on your own and interact with it as if you were actually on the device, touchscreen and all.
Does anyone know if there are any apps that might provide this kind of remote control for a Fire TV or other device like a Google TV? My goal is to use my Note 3 (or some other future device/tablet) to display what the media player device is outputting and in that way remotely control it.
Thanks for any responses.
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This is a big lose on their side. Go with roku - they have a complete sdk that can allow you to control and directly launch any app via a simple ip command.

Shield ATV Accessories

Did you guys get any of the new accessories? The remote or the stand? What do you think? Both are pretty pricey...

dunemessiah said:
Did you guys get any of the new accessories? The remote or the stand? What do you think? Both are pretty pricey...
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I got the remote, it's on the thin side. Nice for private listening mode, but I'm not so sure it was worth the money, the controller and AndroidTV apps are handier.

Yeah I got the remote. I really like it, but wish it had just one more button - for getting "context" option in kodi. Would have saved the $50 if I'd bothered to read up on it properly before purchasing

Remote here as well, pricey but nice. My Panansonic Vera tv remote works as well, has the directional buttons, just no voice search.

It would be great if I can reuse the remote from my Sony Nsz-gs7 with this thing.

aznmode said:
It would be great if I can reuse the remote from my Sony Nsz-gs7 with this thing.
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Wow ! It's great :angel:
Thank you sooooooo much.

So am I understanding the Sony Nsz-gs7 works fine as a remote? Does the trackpad work? I would guess not, unfortunately.

Yes, I got remote but other accessories are not available here.

Thinking about getting the shield but not too crazy about the $50 remote nor do i like using a game pad for tv. Can anyone suggest a good third party remote that will pair? I got some research to do (not even sure if it bt or wifi). I dont suppose fire tv remote would work? Or any of the several set top box ones i have lying around collecting dust...

If your TV does CEC over HDMI then you can just use that. Most TVs do support this. Works well with my Samsung Smart UHDTV (UN60JU6500), has forward/back/play/pause/arrow keys.

I got the remote in a bundle for around $325us. I am very happy I chose this bundle. The remote is awesome.
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I got Samsung SE-506 external dvd/bluray drive (supports AV mode) and it connects to the shield and plays dvds just fine - I love this device!
I hope that kodi or any other apps will some day be able to play back blurays same way as they do playback dvds right now. A man can dream

bashermalone said:
So am I understanding the Sony Nsz-gs7 works fine as a remote? Does the trackpad work? I would guess not, unfortunately.
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Pretty much as a direction remote and keyboard. Can't get mic or track pad working. [emoji22]
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i like the look of the remote, but also not too crazy about the price either, im currently using mine paired up with my logitech harmony touch.. and have a minix neo a2 air mouse plugged in too for use with certain apps.
learning above that theirs no button for context menu within kodi ill 100% be giving it a miss,
has anybody tried a fire tv remote?

What about the FLIRC universal IR receiver? You just have to configure it in a PC and should work with any remote. I use it with an Harmony remote but on a Windows PC not sure how it will work on android.

sectune said:
I got Samsung SE-506 external dvd/bluray drive (supports AV mode) and it connects to the shield and plays dvds just fine - I love this device!
I hope that kodi or any other apps will some day be able to play back blurays same way as they do playback dvds right now. A man can dream
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Does it need some modification to work,or it is just plug and play?

Camera support on shield ATV
You can also plug a USB camera on the shield and for instance start using a video calling application uniquely available for the Shield ATV. I am not aware of any other set-top-box or Android SmartTV that has camera support.
There is only one video calling app on google play that works perfectly on the Shield ATV called "Tellybean - Easy video calling".

KLit75 said:
Thinking about getting the shield but not too crazy about the $50 remote nor do i like using a game pad for tv. Can anyone suggest a good third party remote that will pair? I got some research to do (not even sure if it bt or wifi). I dont suppose fire tv remote would work? Or any of the several set top box ones i have lying around collecting dust...
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Late reply, but FYI there is also an Android app to use any smartphone/tablet as remote. And voice search is then included :good: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.tv.remote
Or you can use any universal IR remote...
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Grippen50 said:
What about the FLIRC universal IR receiver? You just have to configure it in a PC and should work with any remote. I use it with an Harmony remote but on a Windows PC not sure how it will work on android.
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There is also this :https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1635386542/anymote-home-your-phone-the-ultimate-universal-rem

Connect Samsung SE-506 external dvd/bluray drive to nvidia shield TV
sectune said:
I got Samsung SE-506 external dvd/bluray drive (supports AV mode) and it connects to the shield and plays dvds just fine - I love this device!
I hope that kodi or any other apps will some day be able to play back blurays same way as they do playback dvds right now. A man can dream
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Hi Sectune,
how did you do that? I'm really frustrated, because nearly nothing happend when i tried it.
Only the blue light of the drive flashs every approx. 5 seconds. The drive didn't spin up. I even can't open the drive when it's connected to the shield. Annoying.
So I'm really interested in how you managed it to work.

is there a better controller out there that's 100% compatible? The standard Shield controller is rubbish, IMO.

Best 3rd Party Fire TV Remote? IR, Air Mouse, and keyboard.

Hey guys! I have a 1st gen Fire TV- not rooted. I have been on the prowl for the perfect remote for my fire TV. I want it to use with a web browser (Mouse and Keyboard), Control my tv with IR (Input) and soundbar with IR(Volume and input). I have even tried universal remotes paired with my TV's CEC input control and that works, but no home button.
That being said, i have found a few that come so close to working perfectly, but they all seem to have 1 major downfall that is a deal breaker- specifically the navigation buttons not being mapped correctly with the Fire TV.
For reference and what ive tried:
http://amzn.com/B00U3PFUAC Back Button does not work.
http://amzn.com/B00RCWF1NA Home Button Does not work.
These are exactly what I want to be a truly universal remote with my Fire TV but with 1 fatal flaw and i can't root to modify the mapping. This is what im trying next: http://amzn.com/B012BZU3KS , http://amzn.com/B00HNLFYP0
What are you guys using?

dantheman9703 said:
These are exactly what I want to be a truly universal remote with my Fire TV but with 1 fatal flaw and i can't root to modify the mapping. This is what im trying next: amzn.com/B012BZU3KS, amzn.com/B00HNLFYP0
What are you guys using?
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Just out of curiosity, why is rooting off the table? I just ordered a Mele F10 Deluxe 2.4GHz Portable Wireless Air Mouse/Keyboard. It's supposed to be ideal, but requires a modified keymap.

fecaleagle said:
Just out of curiosity, why is rooting off the table? I just ordered a Mele F10 Deluxe 2.4GHz Portable Wireless Air Mouse/Keyboard. It's supposed to be ideal, but requires a modified keymap.
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I haven't been keeping up with development for the first gen for a while. Last I checked, there was no root method available for my software version. I didn't think things had changed. Are there new root methods available?

I've got two Fire TV Boxes (one new 4k) and on both of them, I use the stock remote for Kodi interface and this keyboard/touchpad for everything else. Works flawlessly...keymaps are perfect and it was inexpensive.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HFS24DQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
It's my solution, maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but for everyday use...it's great.
Rick
BlackIce

dantheman9703 said:
I haven't been keeping up with development for the first gen for a while. Last I checked, there was no root method available for my software version. I didn't think things had changed. Are there new root methods available?
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Sorry, I'm new/clueless. I've got a 2nd gen and assumed that any first gen could be downgraded to a rootable version.

I use the flirc with my harmony remote it works great. It also happens to be on sale until new years. www.flirc.tv and http://www.amazon.com/FLIRC-FL-09028-Universal-Receiver-Components/dp/B00BB0ETW8/ for the direct amazon link.
It emulates a usb keyboard and can be used for other things as well, you can program it with whatever IR remote you have laying around and if it's a universal like a harmony it can be part of your normal home theatre macros.

blackice000 said:
I've got two Fire TV Boxes (one new 4k) and on both of them, I use the stock remote for Kodi interface and this keyboard/touchpad for everything else. Works flawlessly...keymaps are perfect and it was inexpensive.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HFS24DQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
It's my solution, maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but for everyday use...it's great.
Rick
BlackIce
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Thanks for your idea man. My Biggest want out of this is too be able to use 1 controller for navigation and TV volume and input control. The keyboard / mouse is just a bonus

ImCoKeMaN said:
I use the flirc with my harmony remote it works great. It also happens to be on sale until new years. www.flirc.tv and http://www.amazon.com/FLIRC-FL-09028-Universal-Receiver-Components/dp/B00BB0ETW8/ for the direct amazon link.
It emulates a usb keyboard and can be used for other things as well, you can program it with whatever IR remote you have laying around and if it's a universal like a harmony it can be part of your normal home theatre macros.
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Wow! This is something I've yet to think of. Do the menu and home and back buttons work? What is the home button for the fire TV on the harmony? Thank you for the idea!
EDIT Actually I'm new to the harmony and i just have the basic bare bones Cheapy one. Will this work with it?

dantheman9703 said:
Wow! This is something I've yet to think of. Do the menu and home and back buttons work? What is the home button for the fire TV on the harmony? Thank you for the idea!
EDIT Actually I'm new to the harmony and i just have the basic bare bones Cheapy one. Will this work with it?
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It will work with any remote including a cheapy harmony. You program the flirc itself to respond to whatever remote you have and you can program the output keys.
for home button here is a thread on the AFTV2 home button mapping: (title says not working but they found the combo: Left-windows key, left-alt-key, and Enter key)
http://forum.flirc.tv/index.php?/topic/1987-amazon-tv-home-button-not-working-with-harmony-remote/

+1 on the flirc, if you want an IR solution
I use a regular universal remote (from my STB) and the flirc can be programmed for any button to be mapped to the aftv remote, because my goal was to simplify some rooms to 1 remote only.
Works flawlessly, but remember to use a usb cable to place the flirc over the AFTV or you may not have line of sight (I bought some cheap usb extension cables)
With the flirc app I setup the home button without issue on both kodi/xbmc and the FTV...I don't recall having issues
The newer harmony hubs work perfectly as well since they are bluetooth and already have the mapping, but much more expensive.

barrmulio said:
Works flawlessly, but remember to use a usb cable to place the flirc over the AFTV or you may not have line of sight (I bought some cheap usb extension cables)
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I actually have mine sticking straight out the back and never have any problems. And it's sort of right behind my TV. It really just depends on your remote and room layout I think.

rbox said:
I actually have mine sticking straight out the back and never have any problems. And it's sort of right behind my TV. It really just depends on your remote and room layout I think.
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same here, it's super sensitive, they even recommend pointing remote away from it and bouncing the ir off a wall when programming so it doesn't overdrive it. It's about as close to RF as you'll get with an IR remote.

Flirc for the BIG win. Wife approved.

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