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Have my new OP3'S coming soon, and have a qc 2.0 compliant car charger, will I be able to use this without any problems?
Thanks
stevessvt said:
Have my new OP3'S coming soon, and have a qc 2.0 compliant car charger, will I be able to use this without any problems?
Thanks
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You can use it but Quickcharge won't work because the OP3 only supports Dash Charge...
I tried several different chargers: 2A, 2,4A 3A. I'm only getting 1,5A if I dont use the original charger AND the original cable. I tried the original charger with a longer USB-C Cable and it did not dash charge at all.
So if I use a different charger and different cable it'll charge at the same 1.5A's as using original cable and different charger?
Yeah, as reported and reviewed everywhere, the only way to fast charge this phone is with the factory adapters and cables. It will still charge just fine with other adapters/cables - but you will NOT get fast charging with it. Just regular speeds.
Henaway said:
Yeah, as reported and reviewed everywhere, the only way to fast charge this phone is with the factory adapters and cables. It will still charge just fine with other adapters/cables - but you will NOT get fast charging with it. Just regular speeds.
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Perfect. Thank you very much!
Dash car charger
Has anyone tried this :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-On...688541?hash=item237076ca1d:g:pkgAAOSwgY9XeVRf
It supose to have quick charge....
zambara said:
Has anyone tried this :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-On...688541?hash=item237076ca1d:g:pkgAAOSwgY9XeVRf
It supose to have quick charge....
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If it is the original charger, as sold by OnePlus, then yes Dash Charge will work.
I am thinking about buying the Oneplus 3 since I haven't changed my phone in a long time. I have a few questions about the charging.
Is the DASH charge just the wall adapter? Do I need to have a DASH charge specific USB-C cable?
Can I get DASH charge with a regular USB-C cable to DASH wall charger? (I am asking this because I use long cables because of the location of my outlets and workstation, ~10-15ft)
If I charge with a basic, QuickCharge, or non-DASH wall adapter will my charge speeds be basic or does it revert to QuickCharge (with quickcharge adapter) because it is using the SD820 chip? Also the same question if I use a non-DASH powerbank (I only need a small powerbank not the big ones they are making)?
I am not sure if this should be place here or in the Accessories forum. Please let me know thanks.
Thanks for the help.
1. For DASH charging you need both the adapter and the cable, both are specific and AFAIK there are no aftermarket alternatives.
2. No, with standard cables you won't get DASH speeds. Wires in normal cables are simply too thin to handle high current of DASH.
3. If you're using non-DASH charger and/or cable, you'll max out at about 1.5A, so a bit less than half the speed of DASH (could be slower, depending on hardware used). QuickCharge is not supported, it'll work at standard speeds.
4. Same logic applies to power banks. And DASH capable power banks don't exist (yet?), so it doesn't really matter what bank you're using.
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Explorer23 said:
1. For DASH charging you need both the adapter and the cable, both are specific and AFAIK there are no aftermarket alternatives.
2. No, with standard cables you won't get DASH speeds. Wires in normal cables are simply too thin to handle high current of DASH.
3. If you're using non-DASH charger and/or cable, you'll max out at about 1.5A, so a bit less than half the speed of DASH (could be slower, depending on hardware used). QuickCharge is not supported, it'll work at standard speeds.
4. Same logic applies to power banks. And DASH capable power banks don't exist (yet?), so it doesn't really matter what bank you're using.
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Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Thanks for the help. So just to clarify there is no QuickCharge but I can use DASH or VOOC products correct?
Do they work the same way where when I use a DASH/VOOC charger I MUST USE a DASH/VOOC usb-c cable in order to get rapid charging speeds?
Thanks
lummujaj said:
Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Oh, yeah, forgot about that, thanks for correction ?
DASH *may* have some slight software differences, but hardware is the same.
Still not a lot of choice when buying stuff, but at least a bit more.
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magistrateee said:
Thanks for the help. So just to clarify there is no QuickCharge but I can use DASH or VOOC products correct?
Do they work the same way where when I use a DASH/VOOC charger I MUST USE a DASH/VOOC usb-c cable in order to get rapid charging speeds?
Thanks
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Yes, DASH and VOOC will get you full charging speed, everything else will charge at standard speeds.
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lummujaj said:
Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Can anyone provide me a link for the vooc charger and the oppo cable? If i can save some money buying those, then better.
EDIT: nvm i found them on ebay.
Thanks for the help.
Do you know of any long DASH/VOOC cables for sale somewhere?
On a side note do you know about the Oppo VOOC power bank (6000mah) since I read Oneplus is not making a DASH power bank anymore. Have you read about its DASH use or where to buy it?
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Do you know of any long DASH/VOOC cables for sale somewhere?
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Sadly I don't think this will ever exist ... OnePlus commented about cable length and they said they can't make it longer due to technical limitations (physics ...). High current = high resistance = lower max length.
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Is there any brand of fast European chargers that people can recommend. The only one I have heard of is Olixar.
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Is there any brand of fast European chargers that people can recommend. The only one I have heard of is Olixar.
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What about the Dash Charger for the OnePlus 3(T)? I mean, it is one of the best available at the moment.
I think they wanted about 30 quid for it which i thought was a bit too steep, but that might have been a bundle.
As far as I know, the only other brand of "Dash compatible" charger are Oppo Vooc charger. You may have to use your original Oneplus 3 dash cable or some people reported using a USB micro to C adapter worked too.
Sadly OP only installed a USB 2 (type C) with NO "standard" fast charging capabilities, so you're stuck with Dash or Vooc (which are both he same btw)
Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.
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Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.
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Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load
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Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load
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I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.
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I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.
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Yes you are correct. A special USB-C cable with an embedded chipset (E) is required along with special PPS. At this early stage I'm not certain many (if any) third party vendors meet these requirements. The only safe bet is the Samsung- branded one.
CONFIRMED !
i have a aftermarket 45w home charger and aftermarket 45w power bank.
both WONT charge at 45W, it charging like 15W.
when i plug in the stock 25w charger, it charging faster.
I have an Anker duel charger that has 45W USB C and a USB A. The USB C is rated at 45W and the USB A is rated at 15W. The 25W charges faster than the 45W. (at least what I am seeing)
Good info about the special cable. If we need a special cable... Where do we find it?
I do have to say, it charges fast with the 25W one.
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Ill check mines when the phone comes later today.
But i do remember reading that it used a different voltage/amp set.
Which if the charger doesnt support it. Then it would default to the lower one.
I.e.
If your charger is 5v 9v 12v 15v
But the phone needw 10v
It would default to the 9v.
Cant remember where i read this. But was a prerelease testing
The safe way to go is to use the samsung official chargers, that are precisely tuned for this, I would not risk a brand new somewhat expensive device
What is this telling me? phone says fast charging.
Using an Amazon Basics 60watt PD charger.
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yeah the phone claims it is rated for 10V at 4.5A and most 45W chargers use 15V at 3A, so likely to be nothing on the market fully capable of charging at super speed at the moment.
as for the USB cable it is a subset of USB 3.1 Gen 2, basically you need a cable with a chip in it, that chip allows you to break the 3A limit on standard cables. I've ordered this as I wanted a longer cable for my standard charger and should work with the 45W if I get it down the road. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073RY5JZ3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Now try this with the 25w charger in the box and you should notice shorter charge time remaining in the notification.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZGZUYL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S2PCVGB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
the cables i listed are what I use now. I have a 1TB 12.9 ipad pro and picked up these cables to use with its fast pd charging.
this charger:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TC53ZYD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is not PPS but it does have 9 Volt at 3amps. i tested it with one of my note 10s and the ipad from 10%. im using a 60W anker brick for the ipad:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BQJWDRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and the newer ravpower brick charged up much faster. again not pps (pdo) but it is fast in my less than scientific testing.
I'm just gonna use my $200 Samsung pre order credit to buy several oem or 45 watt chargers.
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Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !
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Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !
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How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.
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How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.
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I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express
Brotuck said:
I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express
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You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.
bp328i said:
You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.
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No it really is the correct one..
Brotuck said:
No it really is the correct one..
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Different region that might be why.
Ordered and received a couple of days ago.
So far so good.
OPPO SuperVOOC Car Charger.
Maximum 10V 5A 50W stable output to charge your phones and support 5V2A Quick Charge.
Multiple over-current, over-voltage protection.
The only strange issue is there was no cable included so I had to order one also.
https://www.giztop.com/gear/supervooc/official-oppo-supervooc-car-charger.html
I have an old unofficial dash charge car charger and it displays as super vooc on my find X2 Pro
hassan_1000 said:
I have an old unofficial dash charge car charger and it displays as super vooc on my find X2 Pro
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Yes I know. Tried my last oneplus charger displays "superVOOC", but that's not SuperVOOC 2.0! It has a huge difference in charging speed.
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hunhool said:
Ordered and received a couple of days ago.
So far so good.
OPPO SuperVOOC Car Charger.
Maximum 10V 5A 50W stable output to charge your phones and support 5V2A Quick Charge.
Multiple over-current, over-voltage protection.
The only strange issue is there was no cable included so I had to order one also.
https://www.giztop.com/gear/supervooc/official-oppo-supervooc-car-charger.html
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Hey mate, i'm looking at getting this too. Did you have to buy the official USB C cable for it to work? I can't work out what the requirements are for the cable in order to get SuperVOOC 2.0 speeds. Just curious as i bought a standard USB C cable (one in the box is too short IMO) and although I had it plugged into the SV2.0 charger I couldn't get it to charge at SV2.0 speeds
The cable has to be the official one, because it's the only one that has [email protected] Most other cables have 5A. I also looked in China but couldn't find any that has these specs, yet.
I have also bought this charger and it is Super Vooc charger, meaning it is not 2.0 version, I use it with original cable, but the speed difference is not huge, it still charges fast enough.
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The cable has to be the official one, because it's the only one that has [email protected] Most other cables have 5A. I also looked in China but couldn't find any that has these specs, yet.
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Bummer...was hoping to find a longer cable. Thanks for the info...makes sense.
marmst said:
Hey mate, i'm looking at getting this too. Did you have to buy the official USB C cable for it to work? I can't work out what the requirements are for the cable in order to get SuperVOOC 2.0 speeds. Just curious as i bought a standard USB C cable (one in the box is too short IMO) and although I had it plugged into the SV2.0 charger I couldn't get it to charge at SV2.0 speeds
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Yepp, you need to buy the cable separately (but you can add jt to by opening the link I provided)
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hello
have a nice day
I have some advice for UK residents.
The SuperVOOX car charger its only 7.99 pounds in the OPPO official website, but it seems to be permanently out of stock.
Now, accidentally I found they are selling a bundle of the supervooc car charger + supervooc cable for 18 pounds, I think it´s a great deal so I bought it last weekend and it should arrive soon, heres the link:
https://oppomobiles.co.uk/car-kit.html
The funny thing with this is that the bundle is not listed in the web in the accessories or in any other part, you can only find it if you search for something related like "car" or "supervooc"
I also chatted with them asking about the car charger being out of stock and they didnt tell me about this bundle...
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I have some advice for UK residents.
The SuperVOOX car charger its only 7.99 pounds in the OPPO official website, but it seems to be permanently out of stock.
Now, accidentally I found they are selling a bundle of the supervooc car charger + supervooc cable for 18 pounds, I think it´s a great deal so I bought it last weekend and it should arrive soon, heres the link:
The funny thing with this is that the bundle is not listed in the web in the accessories or in any other part, you can only find it if you search for something related like "car" or "supervooc"
I also chatted with them asking about the car charger being out of stock and they didnt tell me about this bundle...
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Great find. I’ve just bought a OnePlus 8 Pro wich supports WarpCharge 30T. This is the same as VOOC 4.0 I believe and they are both 5v @ 6A = 30W. Would this charger and cable charge my 8 Pro at 30W? Many thanks in advance.
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According the Amazon.com it does support the OnePlus 8 Pro with 5v @ 5A = 25W maximum.....
“Brand Name: OPPO
GaN: NO
Max Output Power: 50W
Output Interface: USB
Type: Car Charger
Power Source: Car Lighter Slot
Quality Certification: CCC
Model Number: CC001
Applied Fast Charge Protocols: OPPO VOOC
Input: 12-24V/5A
input: 12-24V/5.5A
output 50W: 10V-5A
output 25W: 5V-4A
output 10W: 5V-2A
Compatibility：
50W Max：
OPPO Ace 2/Ace
OPPO Find X2 Pro/X2/X SuperVOOC
OPPO R17 Pro
25W Max：
OPPO K5
OnePlus 8 Pro/8/7T/7T Pro
20W Max：
Reno 3 Pro/3/2z/2/Reno/10x zoom/Remo z/Find X/Find 7/R11/R11 Plus/R11s/R11s Plus/R9/R9 Plus/R9s/R9s Plus/K3/A9x
Other Smartphones 10W Max
Remarks：Super VOOC Super Flash Charger Car Charger also supports standard flash charge service for OPPO VOOC flash charge mobile phones, and provides up to 5V / 2A charging service for OPPO ordinary charging mobile phones and other brand mobile phones”
has anyone got a link to any stores that arnt out of stock of the supervooc car charger, i have looked all over and i cannot find an official one anywhere but i have found a knockoff version on ali express.
Upgraded 65W SUPERVOOC 2.0 Car Charger Fast Car Charging Type C Cable For OPPO Find X2 Pro Reno 3 4 Ace 2 X20 X2 Realme X50 Pro|Car Chargers| - AliExpress
Cheap Car Chargers, Buy Quality Cellphones & Telecommunications Directly from China Suppliers:Upgraded 65W SUPERVOOC 2.0 Car Charger Fast Car Charging Type C Cable For OPPO Find X2 Pro Reno 3 4 Ace 2 X20 X2 Realme X50 Pro Enjoy ✓Free Shipping Worldwide! ✓Limited Time Sale ✓Easy Return.
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not sure if it will be any good but the reviews of the product seem to indicate that it is in fact the real deal, i personally need the super fast charging as i drive since it takes me 30 minutes to get to work super fast charging would be ideal.
anyway i have decided to buy an inverter for the car to use the one that came with the phone for now, but it would be nice to have a proper car charger without all the extra mess them wires are going to be making.
USB type-C cables don't have to be OEM but they do have to be the right standard (& the standards get added to frequently so get an up-to-date cable), Qualcom PD/QC is much more common than Mediatek VOOC & they work in completely different ways.
VOOC pulses the power wires to communicate between charger/cable/phone (all 3 have chips) whereas PD/QC communicates via the data wires.
The result of this communication is different too, VOOC leaves the line at 5V & just changes the current [Edit]it seems SuperVOOC can also select 10V[/Edit] but PD/QC selects between various Voltage/current combinations & can get up to 20V.
If communication fails completely the charger defaults to 5V & max 2.1A with the phone deciding how much current to draw.
The previous micro-USB fast-charge standard is different again, it uses a plain cable & just communicates between phone & charger to select 2.4A, 3.1A or 4.2A vs the default max 2.1A
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has anyone got a link to any stores that arnt out of stock of the supervooc car charger, i have looked all over and i cannot find an official one anywhere but i have found a knockoff version on ali express.
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After hours of searching I have found one with a link to another in the "see also" panel
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEIDI-Charger-Charging-Indicator-Compatible/dp/B08NJ52WNS
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And another (this one with reviews)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEIDI-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Compatible/dp/B07PJYMYBB
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After hours of searching I have found one with a link to another in the "see also" panel
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEIDI-Charger-Charging-Indicator-Compatible/dp/B08NJ52WNS
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And another (this one with reviews)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEIDI-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Compatible/dp/B07PJYMYBB
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Brilliant thank you, I have ordered the one in the first link as it actually mentions super vooc but I can't see it mentioned on the second one, it comes tomorrow and I will update you on how it goes, thanks again
Gordotaylor28 said:
Brilliant thank you, I have ordered the one in the first link as it actually mentions super vooc but I can't see it mentioned on the second one, it comes tomorrow and I will update you on how it goes, thanks again
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The one I've ordered is due on Thursday along with the phone it has to charge...
Gordotaylor28 said:
Brilliant thank you, I have ordered the one in the first link as it actually mentions super vooc but I can't see it mentioned on the second one, it comes tomorrow and I will update you on how it goes, thanks again
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So, any feedback or review?
yes apologies i completely forgot to let people know, so basically the item works well and the phone tells me it is charging at super vooc 2.0 speeds, however I've used the app ampere and its definitely not as fast as the wall plug version but is certainly fast enough, also I'm not using the stock cable that came with the phone as that didn't seem to work very well with the charger so instead I'm using another one of my cables which is a volutz cable, i wasn't actually aware it would work since i bought it for another phone but seems to work really well, so all in all i would highly recommend the charger as it seems to be the best option for on the go and is certainly cheap enough.