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Hey,
I am going to the Israel for vacation, and I have IGo and maps downloaded to my phone. However, I tried using GPS in Airplane mode (to see if it works, because I expect to turn my phone onto airplane mode while in Israel), it turns on, but it does not detect any satellites (I used the "GPS Test" app to test it). So, I 'Googled' around for some options, and found that it will not connect to satellites while in "Airplane Mode".
What I would like to do is to try and shut off the cellular Radio (while keeping the 'Airplane Mode' turned off) and try connecting to GPS then, to see if it works. I need a way to turn off the Cellular radio without turning on 'Airplane Mode', or, if you have any other ideas, please do tell, I am looking for anyway to use my GPS without it costing me any money (by using data, or cellular service in Israel).
Thank you very much.
slimsheivy said:
Hey,
I am going to the Israel for vacation, and I have IGo and maps downloaded to my phone. However, I tried using GPS in Airplane mode (to see if it works, because I expect to turn my phone onto airplane mode while in Israel), it turns on, but it does not detect any satellites (I used the "GPS Test" app to test it). So, I 'Googled' around for some options, and found that it will not connect to satellites while in "Airplane Mode".
What I would like to do is to try and shut off the cellular Radio (while keeping the 'Airplane Mode' turned off) and try connecting to GPS then, to see if it works. I need a way to turn off the Cellular radio without turning on 'Airplane Mode', or, if you have any other ideas, please do tell, I am looking for anyway to use my GPS without it costing me any money (by using data, or cellular service in Israel).
Thank you very much.
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Isn't there a setting in wireless and networks that lets you turn that off? Or maybe you can try juice defender. That has a ton of options and many have to do with turning off wireless.
When you hold down the power button like you are shutting off the phone there is an option Data Network Mode... click it and turn it off and it will shut off your data. i do it a lot to save battery
slightly.stoopid said:
When you hold down the power button like you are shutting off the phone there is an option Data Network Mode... click it and turn it off and it will shut off your data. i do it a lot to save battery
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Now how about an option to turn off cell signal without turning off data?
Not sure there is an option, at least within the phone's menu, I'm sure there is an app of some sort to offer this feature.
I've tried using Extended Controls to toggle the cellular radio at no avail. It seems like airplane mode kills all onboard radios, and I'm starting to think it's not possble to what you're looking in EC05.
Shoulon said:
Now how about an option to turn off cell signal without turning off data?
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how do you suppose using data without a cell signal???
And, Does anyone know how much data is used to get the general location used to start GPS? if it doesn't use data then what does it use to get the general location? (i know it uses the towers, but how does it transmit the location to your phone?)
You can do this with Tasker.
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Hey,
I went on my trip and used GPS without getting charged, here is what I did:
being that GPS wont work with 'Airplane mode' turned On, I had to keep it 'Off', so in order not to get charged; I turned off Data connection (by holding down on the power button and choosing the option from the list) to make sure the didn't charge me for Data. I was not worried about incoming calls because you are only charged if you answer. the only issue was that they charge $0.05 for each incoming text, so before I went on the trip I called Sprint and told them to disable text for the duration of my trip.
it was a great success, GPS worked great and i wasn't charged a penny.
Thanks for the update, I was curious if our phone could be used that way.
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You can disable just the cellular radio using Tasker... this will still allow you to use wifi, bluetooth, gps, etc...
i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on.
after the 4.2 update, one phone continues to work that way, with airplane mode on, cell data is turned off but wifi is left on. the other phone, enabling airplane mode turns off both wifi and cell data.
i know that apps are not able to toggle airplane mode anymore (AutoAP) because of security changes but why would airplane mode work differently on 2 phones running the same 4.2 build?
both phones are running stock android, no root, no flashing.
is there a setting i'm missing? was this something in the update that other people are experiencing?
thanks for the help!
Can't you just toggle wifi back on after?
WiredPirate said:
Can't you just toggle wifi back on after?
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yes, but it immediately shuts wifi back off.
with airplane mode on, i can go to the wifi settings screen, and hit the toggle, it turns on, scans, finds the local wifi, connects and at the same moment it connects the wifi on/off toggle flips back to off.
just seems weird that it is happening with this phone but mine is working as expected...
Then you must go back to 4.1.2 with 4.2 gapps.
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danishprakash said:
Then you must go back to 4.1.2 with 4.2 gapps.
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any idea why it would work with one 4.2 phone and not the other?
seems odd i'd have to backport one phone but leave the other at 4.2
This happens on my Nexus 4. Airplane mode constantly disables WiFi, no matter what. And yes the app AutoAP doesn't work either.
I have found this app, Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool, funny that it was made for Android versions prior to 2.0.
The actual app doesn't seem to work (to enable/disable airplane mode and WiFi), but within the app lies a nifty feature in the Preferences menu under Extras:
Keep Wi-fi On
Wi-fi on Airplane Mode
Check both of those and you should be able to turn Airplane mode on and then keep WiFi on.
Cheers.
obscure.detour said:
This happens on my Nexus 4. Airplane mode constantly disables WiFi, no matter what. And yes the app AutoAP doesn't work either.
I have found this app, Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool, funny that it was made for Android versions prior to 2.0.
The actual app doesn't seem to work (to enable/disable airplane mode and WiFi), but within the app lies a nifty feature in the Preferences menu under Extras:
Keep Wi-fi On
Wi-fi on Airplane Mode
Check both of those and you should be able to turn Airplane mode on and then keep WiFi on.
Cheers.
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thanks i'll try that out. that app is actually dev'd by the same guy as AutoAP.
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thanks i'll try that out. that app is actually dev'd by the same guy as AutoAP.
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that didn't work
i could check "keep wifi on" but whenever i went back to that settings page, it was unchecked again. like it was refusing to save.
the rest of the settings saved.
wrong thread
chadd_k2 said:
i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on
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im on ARHD 7.0.0 and even in prior versions, when airplane mode was turned on wifi would turn off but it could be turned back on. how come your wifi stays on during the airplane mod transition?
Isn't airplane mode means disable any active radio transmission includes Wi-Fi which is sent and receive data ?
If you just wanna stay off calls why don't you just use automatic redirect incoming calls to voice mail or just simply pull out the sim card?
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Airplane mode is supposed to turn wifi off (its a transceiver). However, You can turn it back on while airplane mode is activated and still have the other functions off.
That how airplane mode is supposed to work, thats not a bug, every phone ive had does this
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rptw said:
im on ARHD 7.0.0 and even in prior versions, when airplane mode was turned on wifi would turn off but it could be turned back on. how come your wifi stays on during the airplane mod transition?
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i don't know why, but wifi always has always stayed on when switching to AP mode since i got our Gnex phones in sept. (4.1 i think). wifi even stayed enable when switching to AP mode in my old crappy kin two.
and i think it must be fairly common based upon the instructions in the $30 cell service thread, but i'm no android expert so maybe i'm wrong.
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i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on.
after the 4.2 update, one phone continues to work that way, with airplane mode on, cell data is turned off but wifi is left on. the other phone, enabling airplane mode turns off both wifi and cell data.
i know that apps are not able to toggle airplane mode anymore (AutoAP) because of security changes but why would airplane mode work differently on 2 phones running the same 4.2 build?
both phones are running stock android, no root, no flashing.
is there a setting i'm missing? was this something in the update that other people are experiencing?
thanks for the help!
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There's a lot of talk about this. Check the [GUIDE] to voip/$30/month plans. But it sounds like google moved it into part of core services or something like that. So none of the autoap type programs work any more. But one member had this suggestion below in that other thread. Gotta buy Tasker, but should be able to get back to working like AutoAP did.
Download Secure Settings. Launch Secure Settings, go over to the Helper tab and install the helper. Then go to Tasker. Go into your task and delete the Airplane Mode radio step and the Airplane mode on step. Then hit the + at the bottom left, go to Plugins, select Secure Settings. Hit edit. Scroll down to "Airplane Mode Radios" and select it, and then select "Cell" from the dropdown. Hit the save button at the bottom left and select the check mark to create the task. Move the task where it needs to be by dragging on the right side up and down. Then create a new task, Plugins, Secure Settings, edit, Airplane mode, on, save button, check mark, move to position. You can figure out the rest. Works perfectly.
Llama works as well, it's free and looks less complicated
jpmanchester said:
There's a lot of talk about this. Check the [GUIDE] to voip/$30/month plans. But it sounds like google moved it into part of core services or something like that. So none of the autoap type programs work any more. But one member had this suggestion below in that other thread. Gotta buy Tasker, but should be able to get back to working like AutoAP did.
Download Secure Settings. Launch Secure Settings, go over to the Helper tab and install the helper. Then go to Tasker. Go into your task and delete the Airplane Mode radio step and the Airplane mode on step. Then hit the + at the bottom left, go to Plugins, select Secure Settings. Hit edit. Scroll down to "Airplane Mode Radios" and select it, and then select "Cell" from the dropdown. Hit the save button at the bottom left and select the check mark to create the task. Move the task where it needs to be by dragging on the right side up and down. Then create a new task, Plugins, Secure Settings, edit, Airplane mode, on, save button, check mark, move to position. You can figure out the rest. Works perfectly.
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Many thanks. Got this working after playing with Secure Settings and Tasker, works great...:good:
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I guess I have figured out how to do it with Tasker or Secure Settings.
Both have two actions like "Airplane Mode" and "Airplane Radios", so the second one doesn't turn off anything, but set, what to control with "Airplane Mode" action. Setting seems to be system wide and permanent (saved after reboot).
Good luck
Just updated my note 3 to the most recent version ending in dnf4. The GPS icon in the notification panel is now changed to location. I like having location services on but only in power saving until I need gps to navigate etc. Now the location icon must be checked in order to use Google location services. Every time I select location on it asks for permission to track my location and automatically goes into high accuracy mode. I have to go to settings and select power saving and do the same for when I want gps. It's really annoying. Anyone else having this problem? Anyone way to go back to the way it was with only the gps toggle? Much thanks in advance.
Been that way since ne6
Interesting I was in CNB4 before this and I might go back. I do not like this set up.
i can confirm is a problem with nf4 it was fine on nf1
This is driving me up the wall.
For navigation apps I need "high accuracy," which uses GPS.
Maybe "Maps," too.
Pretty much nothing else needs that resolution. Weather apps & etc. are probably good enough just using the cell network triangulation.
But now I can only turn on "location" from the drop-down menu in the notification bar. If I want to turn on and off GPS, I have to go into Settings.
Am I doing something wrong? Or am I just nuts? If I leave it on "high accuracy," my phone sits at "seeking GPS" (or something like that) all the time when I'm inside.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks.
JaimeZX said:
This is driving me up the wall.
For navigation apps I need "high accuracy," which uses GPS.
Maybe "Maps," too.
Pretty much nothing else needs that resolution. Weather apps & etc. are probably good enough just using the cell network triangulation.
But now I can only turn on "location" from the drop-down menu in the notification bar. If I want to turn on and off GPS, I have to go into Settings.
Am I doing something wrong? Or am I just nuts? If I leave it on "high accuracy," my phone sits at "seeking GPS" (or something like that) all the time when I'm inside.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks.
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I was confused about this too when I finally upgraded my Note 2 to KitKat. Previous to KitKat, I think there was another screen that would let you control whether to have Google Location services use wifi network locations and cell data for apps. This gives you a rough estimate of your location, and I guess it was on for me since I was always able to get a rough location of where I was in Google Maps. It was only when I wanted turn-by-turn directions that I had to turn on GPS. After the upgrade, "Location" is the setting that controls all of this. Under this area, there are 3 modes: High accuracy, Power saving, and GPS only. If you want the same functionality as before (assuming you had Google Location Services on), set it to Power saving (You will have to agree to allow other apps to use this info). Then when you want to use GPS for turn-by-turn, open Google maps, find a destination, and start the navigation. You will get prompted the following:
"Turn-by-turn navigation is only available in these location modes:
-High accuracy
-Device only"
It will prompt you to go into Settings and change your mode, first taking you to the Location screen where you will click on "mode" to select one of the other 2 options. I guess when you're finished with using GPS you will have to go back into the Location settings and change it back to Power Saving mode. I think the easiest way to get there is to press and hold the Location button in your drop-down menu.
Having the Location mode off completely will prevent Google Maps (and other apps?) from finding you on the map or your location.
This is how I understand it to be working. Hope that helps.
On android devices it was always possible to switch localisation services and GPS separately.
You could keep localisation services turned on (with wifi and phone) and turn off GPS to spare battery.
Now with android pie and new smasung settings it is all or nothing as there is onlys one setting :
I can turn on localisation and it turns on GPS
But if you turn it off, it disables everykind of localisation : GPS but also wiifi ...
Has anyone noticed this and is there a workaround ?
I'm not a fan of the always enabled GPS
I really do not like this at all. I have typically always kept GPS off as far back as Jellybean, favoring Locations battery saving mode, unless I needed navigation or something like that. GPS is power hungry and there's no reason to have to have it always enabled. I know Pie is supposed to help with battery usage and I honestly can't judge whether or not it really does yet as this is day two for me.
Pie is supposed to prevent apps from accessing sensors in the background but I've read that this doesn't apply to GPS so this whole thing is probably part of a marketing thing giving Google as well as app devs the ability to monetize ads based on specific location of us the users. Location is frequently wrong about where I am anyway, showing me a street over and even though I have WiFi and Bluetooth scanning enabled. As a result, my Safe Unlock no longer works when I'm home (only location I have enabled) which sucks. With Oreo I saw this somewhat often and only after I had been home for a while would the Safe Unlock work properly and I accepted this as a consequence of having Location in battery saving mode but now I'm not sure. I just no that with Pie, so far, Safe Unlock hasn't functioned once. My designated home WiFi that I'm on as I type should cause Safe Unlock to do it's thing but it's not. Maybe Location or Safe Unlock are broken. I have seen reports of both regarding Pie so I can't blame it in Samsung. I guess I'll have to try to figure out which of these features is broken.
I'm not sure if this is related to the Location issue but I also noticed that Samsung+ is not working for me. When I first tried to open it I got a notification that I need to have location enabled, I agreed (it was anyway), then I was shown a red screen with error or format codes that force closed faster than I could decipher it. This could be related or could have been broken in an update. Other than for ad purposes, and I don't recall seeing any other than Samsung ads in the Samsung app, I don't know why Samsung+ needs to access location services as it only works in the US and the network tells the app I'm in the US as well as the tower I'm accessing. I suppose it's another attempt to collect user info related to WiFi, Mac address and Bluetooth. I only got the "enable location" request the first couple of times I tried opening the app but the red error screen and FC both still occur. I tried to get a screenshot but I could only manage about half of the screen before it FC'd. I attached the partial pic. It's the bottom half of the screen. When it closes, the app window seems to slide up like when you close apps in the recents view. This brings up another complaint...Screenshot is slow to respond so events like this are next to impossible to capture. I'll have to get a camera out and try.
dronarg said:
On android devices it was always possible to switch localisation services and GPS separately.
You could keep localisation services turned on (with wifi and phone) and turn off GPS to spare battery.
Now with android pie and new smasung settings it is all or nothing as there is onlys one setting :
I can turn on localisation and it turns on GPS
But if you turn it off, it disables everykind of localisation : GPS but also wiifi ...
Has anyone noticed this and is there a workaround ?
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Yes I noticed this. I use 'Tasker' app as a workaround. I set Location Mode to High Accuracy when using Navigation apps, and set to Battery Saving after closing the Navigation app. You can also just create a widget on home screen to toggle Location Mode to High Accuracy or Battery Saving.
I confirmed this setting by using 'Power Toggles' app widget. When the GPS toggle in widget is highlighted, it means on High Accuracy mode, if not highlighted it's on Battery Saving mode.
dronarg said:
On android devices it was always possible to switch localisation services and GPS separately.
You could keep localisation services turned on (with wifi and phone) and turn off GPS to spare battery.
Now with android pie and new smasung settings it is all or nothing as there is onlys one setting :
I can turn on localisation and it turns on GPS
But if you turn it off, it disables everykind of localisation : GPS but also wiifi ...
Has anyone noticed this and is there a workaround ?
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I have yet to notice any adverse battery performance since I've been on pie and I've been on it since the start of the official betas. I was annoyed at first because I had always used battery save mode but really it's been a non issue for me.