Hey guys,
I just pre-ordered an Amazon Fire TV here in Germany and I have a specific question for which I didn't find an answer yet. Everybody is saying that the AFTV has basic CEC functionality. I just wanted to know what this means in detail? Which keys are working and which are not? I heard that the arrow keys and the OK/select key are working. But what about the back, the home and the multimedia buttons (play/pause etc.)? I would be very glad if someone could answer this question (espacially with a Sony Bravia TV).
Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward for an answer.
elmurato said:
Hey guys,
I just pre-ordered an Amazon Fire TV here in Germany and I have a specific question for which I didn't find an answer yet. Everybody is saying that the AFTV has basic CEC functionality. I just wanted to know what this means in detail? Which keys are working and which are not? I heard that the arrow keys and the OK/select key are working. But what about the back, the home and the multimedia buttons (play/pause etc.)? I would be very glad if someone could answer this question (espacially with a Sony Bravia TV).
Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward for an answer.
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I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
Sc0rp10 said:
I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
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On my toshia the arrows and select were working. But there was no back or home.
Sony here, no back/home... seems the best u can have until a hack.
c0mm0n said:
Sony here, no back/home... seems the best u can have until a hack.
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Damn. So for now its unusable via CEC, right? Without a back button it's not possible to exit menus... Could you try the media buttons too, please? I mean play/pause/stop. Thanks!
elmurato said:
Damn. So for now its unusable via CEC, right? Without a back button it's not possible to exit menus... Could you try the media buttons too, please? I mean play/pause/stop. Thanks!
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I'm pretty sure play/pause worked for me. But I just got a FLIRC. Much better and more flexible.
Not working for me. Panasonic TV.
with pi it works perfectly...
actually the TV DO recognize there's a hdmi CEC supported device but none of the buttons do something
Tested on Sanyo TV designed for use with roku.
Directions and media buttons work.
Back works (but brings up roku qr overlay)
the Exit button also functions as Back.
Hey,
My FireTV is connected to my Onkyo TX-NR626 amp and from there to my LG TV, I can control the FireTV with the remote of the Onkyo and everything is working, select, back, directions, play, pause, and skip
But you have to enter a code for a RIHD (CEC) enabled device on the remote, the code is 31612 if I'am not wrong
The only thing that is not working is you can't wake up the FireTV out of the standby
Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
Sony Bravia Sync
Tested on an old KDL55-W4000!
Sony calls its CEC compatibility "Bravia Sync". With "Bravia Sync" activated, the following commands work via my TV's remote: Play, Stop, Back-Button, Forward, Rewind, Direction-Keys and Enter ...
With the Sony-Command "Sync Menu", the TV checks for connected devices at HDMI ports and even activates the FireTV from sleep-mode ... If the FireTV is activated, the same button "Sync Menu" opens the Options in FireTV (e.g. skipping to next episode or language selection)
Unfortunately, the only button not yet found by now via CEC, is the "HOME" button. By that button missing, you might get stucked, e. g. in the youtube app for FireTV, because the Back-Button does not go back to main menu of FireTV but stays in the YouTube-App and shows the Search-Site ...
If anyone has a Sony-TV, sending a "HOME"-command via CEC, please contact me, so I can properly set up my Harmony to send the command on my Sony-TV, too (sometimes, not all commands the tv is capable of, are buttons on the remote ... let's give it a try).
Hope, that has helped someone ... Please get back to me, if "Home" is available. Otherwise, I will not use YouTube-App
I don't know anything about CEC on other platforms. I just got a Fire TV two days ago.
I was very happily surprised when my TV's remote (Sony Bravia 47") worked on the Fire. My Girlfriend grabbed the TV remote as we were setting the fire up, and many of the commands were mapped to Sony remote buttons. Since I had cloned the remote to my Universal Remote URC20, it also works. I can create macros and treat the Fire TV like it has an IR remote. Very handy functionality.
All I have done is navigation, backward, forward, select, etc. Of course, you need the Fire remote for voice control.
Someone in another thread said that Samsung TVs didn't run commands back through HDMI. So, obviously ot depends on TV manufacturer.
On my LG TV, CEC is not working. In fact when Fire TV is connected CEC is not working for any device connected to the TV.
I had no problem with a rasberry PI used before I got the Fire TV.
Sc0rp10 said:
I would like to know that too. I have a Samsung tv and the only cec function I can see fire tv performing is when I wake the device up from sleep it automatically shifts my tv from cable to fire tv screen and turns on the sound system if its off. But nothing on the TV remote works.
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I also have a Samsung, I found out that Play/Pause and FF/REW are the only one's that works. lol pretty disappointing.
Latest TV firmware UE55D8000/5 v2 (there are later firmwares on the web than ota updates for some odd reason).
Latest Preerooted firmware on aFTV.
papars said:
On my LG TV, CEC is not working. In fact when Fire TV is connected CEC is not working for any device connected to the TV.
I had no problem with a rasberry PI used before I got the Fire TV.
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Hmm. What year is the TV? My 2013 LG remote has no problem with the Fire TV.
Cec is a pita for me and my lg 55ub8500, it works fine if you have the TV on and then power the firetv on.. But if you have the firetv on and power on the TV.. It's a no go until you restart the ftv. Would be ok I'd the ftv would turn off but mine stays on like 24/7.
If your lg TV is new (2014) turn on simplink in the menus and setup your hdmi port to be a denon Avr(or any device that supports cec, not all do) and it should work
whazup2015 said:
Tested on an old KDL55-W4000!
Sony calls its CEC compatibility "Bravia Sync". With "Bravia Sync" activated, the following commands work via my TV's remote: Play, Stop, Back-Button, Forward, Rewind, Direction-Keys and Enter ...
With the Sony-Command "Sync Menu", the TV checks for connected devices at HDMI ports and even activates the FireTV from sleep-mode ... If the FireTV is activated, the same button "Sync Menu" opens the Options in FireTV (e.g. skipping to next episode or language selection)
Unfortunately, the only button not yet found by now via CEC, is the "HOME" button. By that button missing, you might get stucked, e. g. in the youtube app for FireTV, because the Back-Button does not go back to main menu of FireTV but stays in the YouTube-App and shows the Search-Site ...
If anyone has a Sony-TV, sending a "HOME"-command via CEC, please contact me, so I can properly set up my Harmony to send the command on my Sony-TV, too (sometimes, not all commands the tv is capable of, are buttons on the remote ... let's give it a try).
Hope, that has helped someone ... Please get back to me, if "Home" is available. Otherwise, I will not use YouTube-App
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Same on my 2013 Sony TV, the remote's HOME button functions as Android's MENU button, whilst the remote's OPTIONS button does nothing. Shame, so close to being perfect. Still hoping the Fire TV will get a working root and that we can change the HDMI-CEC options that way.
I just bought a Noname 40" TV (Hisense LTDN40D36SEU) and was really surprised that it supports CEC quite well!
Nav, OK, Play, Pause, < Skip > and even Stop (! Not even on the Fire TV Remote itself) are working perfectly.
Just hoping to find a way to get Home and Context working. As theres a way to go to a Developer-Page on the TV, even with dumping firmware Option, im optimistic to get it fixed one day. Or, even better as Spence1115 said, hopefully Someday Root on the FireTV and a way to change it over here.
i had conflict on my samsung smart tv 2014 when connecting the AFTV it also played havoc with my receiver so i have decided to use a cec less adaptor and it worked a treat just in case anyone wanted to know and if they get conflicts (mine was connecting and disconnecting all my devices randomly)
Hi.
I just got a LG 42lb5600 and I can't even see the simplink option.
No buttons work on the fire.
Is there a firmware update or something I can do?
I hope that one day we will get the ability to program certain key presses through CEC on the Fire TV. Works great with sideloaded Kodi on my fireTV Stick but sadly no context or home functionality.
So to my surprise, my regular sony tv remote (IR) is able to control my AFTV out of the box. i originally thought i would need to buy a USB IR blaster for this. However, my guess is the Bravia sync is playing the part here. I seem to be able to replicate most things (directional pad, select, return) but don't think i have a button on here that can do the Home button or the Contextual (Hamburger menu) button.
Is there a way to configure this somehow?
barrist said:
So to my surprise, my regular sony tv remote (IR) is able to control my AFTV out of the box. i originally thought i would need to buy a USB IR blaster for this. However, my guess is the Bravia sync is playing the part here. I seem to be able to replicate most things (directional pad, select, return) but don't think i have a button on here that can do the Home button or the Contextual (Hamburger menu) button.
Is there a way to configure this somehow?
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Hi,
I have a Bravia also and my Sony remote controls the Fire TV. You're correct that the Bravia Sync (CEC) is doing the job.
On my Sony remote the blue "Home" button works as the Context (hamburger) button, at least in XBMC it does.
I can't find a button that replicates the Fire TV "Home" button though, and I don't believe there's an way to configure this.
Does yours work ok all of the time? For me, after a while the FireTV seems to break all my CEC communication, so my TV stops controlling my audio system and doesn't see any connected devices, only pulling the power from the FireTV will fix this, but then after a while (sometimes hours, sometimes a couple of days) it breaks again.
It's using the HDMI cable/slot that my WDTV Live SMP was using and that never had a problem so I don't think it's the HDMI cable at fault.
helicon9 said:
Hi,
I have a Bravia also and my Sony remote controls the Fire TV. You're correct that the Bravia Sync (CEC) is doing the job.
On my Sony remote the blue "Home" button works as the Context (hamburger) button, at least in XBMC it does.
I can't find a button that replicates the Fire TV "Home" button though, and I don't believe there's an way to configure this.
Does yours work ok all of the time? For me, after a while the FireTV seems to break all my CEC communication, so my TV stops controlling my audio system and doesn't see any connected devices, only pulling the power from the FireTV will fix this, but then after a while (sometimes hours, sometimes a couple of days) it breaks again.
It's using the HDMI cable/slot that my WDTV Live SMP was using and that never had a problem so I don't think it's the HDMI cable at fault.
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Yeah i figured out that i needed to change some settings to allow the remote to replicate the "hamburger" button.
I find it a bit laggy (understandable) compared to the amazon remote, and the lack of a Home button makes me think I'll eventually just use two remotes, sacrificing a bit of convenience that way. I haven't had the issue you've had yet though; i've only had it a few days though. My setup is pretty simple though, just my tv hooked up to the AFTV.
I bought the Harmony Hub in order to have a single-remote solution for my home theater setup. The Harmony Hub can control things via Bluetooth, which is why it can control the FireTV even though it's missing an infreared port.
So I set up a Watch TV activity that powers on my TV and my receiver, and then controls the FireTV with the playback and directional buttons. Everything works great until I turn the activity off. and then back on. When everything powers back on, the remote has lost its ability to control the FireTV. it can still control the TV and receiver, however.
To fix it, I have to open up the Harmony smartphone app, issue a single command to the FireTV (which forces some sort of re-pairing) and then the remote works great again.
Does anyone else have this issue?
My Firetv is rooted, btw, so if any possible solutions require root I can do that.
You need to setup two activities:
1. Watch TV (the FireTV should not be included in this activity.)
2. Watch Five TV.
Open "My Harmony App" on your computer. Go to Add Device/Amazon/FIre TV. Then create a new Activity. The presets on your remote and your phone or tablet do everything you need except there is no Home Button. You can map an unused button (using the "My Harmony" software) to Home. I used the "Red".
This works flawlessly for me. If I am watching TV and and I hit Watch Fire TV, the cable box turns off, and the input on my receiver switches. Then I hit enter to wake up the FireTV. Works the opposite way, too.
Thanks! Your reply helped me figure out the problem: I didn't have the "ENTER" command mapped to a button, so no button I hit would wake up the Fire TV. I'm working now!
I've seen posts about FLIRC and some other IR recivers (like from a Ortek Win MCE remote)...
Has anyone tried the old Nyko BluWave IR Remote For PS3 with a Fire TV? Does it work? Or at least its IR reciver with a harmony remote?
Other than connecting it and pressing buttons is there any way to test?
KidJoe said:
I've seen posts about FLIRC and some other IR recivers (like from a Ortek Win MCE remote)...
Has anyone tried the old Nyko BluWave IR Remote For PS3 with a Fire TV? Does it work? Or at least its IR reciver with a harmony remote?
Other than connecting it and pressing buttons is there any way to test?
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I just set up my Amazon Fire TV this past weekend. Unfortunately, the Nyko BluWave IR remote for PS3 does not work. I plugged it into the USB port on my Fire TV and went into settings - the dongle does not even show up as a connected device. I also mashed some of the buttons on the remote itself to see if anything would happen. Unfortunately, nothing happened when I tried any of the buttons for the Nyko.
I actually got a chance to try it with mine (found it in a box in the basement that wasn't unpacked since we moved)
Pressing the directional parts of the ring, and center worked for me, but nothing else.
KidJoe said:
I actually got a chance to try it with mine (found it in a box in the basement that wasn't unpacked since we moved)
Pressing the directional parts of the ring, and center worked for me, but nothing else.
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read this a few weeks ago and just found the dongle for mine in drawer. the only buttons that worked for me were the directional buttons . the center button did not work. maybe my button is broken. or perhaps I'm on a different firmware version. if it mimics the buttons of a playstation controller perhaps they can be remapped? not sure how to go about doing that.
I also found a generic usb to infarad adapter.
I plugged it into the firetv and when I use certain remotes the receiving light on the device lights up.
Hi all
I found this great information on the Geforce Forums by "essentialjpm" and felt it needs to be shared everywhere.
the original link
forums.geforce.com/default/topic/842945/shield-tv/tips-for-setting-up-your-logitech-harmony-for-use-with-shield-android-tv/post/5201763/#5201763
the information
"I was finally able to get my Harmony Elite to work the Shield and Kodi over Bluetooth. I'm not using a keymap editor or anything else, just the Harmony and the Shield. This should work with any Hub based Harmony.
Add Devices:
Manufacturer: Nvidia
Model: Shield TV
Manufacturer: Microsoft
Model: Kodi
Create your Shield activity and set it up with your TV, Sound Bar, etc with the Shield and Kodi devices.
Once the activity is created, go to your "buttons" screen in the MyHarmony software (I did this all on the software, not the app) and edit the buttons for your "Shield" activity. For example, I used the Kodi device and assigned "CodecInfo" to the red button, "NextSubtitle" to the green button, and "Watched/Unwatched" to the blue, and "Stop" to the stop button. I left up/down/left/right and OK assigned to the Shield device.
Now sync your changes to your remote.
Don’t pair your Hub yet, keep reading.
Originally, I hit a button on my remote that was assigned to the Shield device on the remote. When doing this screen will say "You have to use the Harmony App to pair this device". If you are using a Harmony without a screen I assume just nothing will work. I opened the Harmony app on my phone and put the Hub into pairing mode which allowed me to add it to the Shield. After I did this the Shield commands worked but the Kodi commands did not. I didn't understand what was going on because the Kodi "device" worked from the phone app, but the remote didn't work at all, in the activity or the individual device.
To fix this I unpaired the "Harmony Keyboard" from the Shield. Then instead of hitting a button assigned to the Shield device, I hit a button assigned to the Kodi device. The screen again said, "You have to use the Harmony App to pair this device". I opened the phone app again and the Hub went into pairing mode, and I repaired it with the Shield. After pairing it again, the Kodi commands worked and the Shield commands worked, all over bluetooth without having to do anything else.
So the trick is pushing a button assigned to the Kodi device to initiate the pairing.
The only limitations doing it this way is you are limited to the commands built into the Harmony Kodi profile. For example, I lost the "PageUp" and "PageDown" commands that I would use with my Flirc because Logitech doesn’t have them in their Kodi profile. Otherwise everything else is the same."
P.S. i didn't need to do any repairing to get the commands I like to have for Kodi like :-
A - brings up Audio delay control
S - kodi shutdown menu
T - toggle subtitles
ESC - kodi home
more Kodi keyboard shortcuts here kodi.wiki/view/Keyboard_controls
I can't get this to work. Did anyone get this working?
Hi rasstar
Which bit r you talking about?
Still working for me.
I am happy to assist, can take photos of my setup so you can see the end result
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Hi rasstar
Which bit r you talking about?
Still working for me.
I am happy to assist, can take photos of my setup so you can see the end result
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I finally got it to work then I discovered something that is much easier. When using the harmony mobile phone app I was able to configure F1 - F12 keys on the remote. Then edit the functions on kodi. Easier to use the Microsoft Kodi remote profile. The f1 keys are time consuming. Everything is working fine.
Hi,
what is the actual method? Have setup Kodi as Computer Device and Shield, everytime when I load up battery need to pair again. thanks in advance