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I've just changed from a Gear Live to a Moto 360 and after charging and syncing the battery died after three hours! Horrendous. Someone please advise! My gear Live with the same settings never did this.
Hi,
I just received a Moto 360, and I know what you're going through!
I've gone from 3 charges a day previously, and today the watch is reporting I have almost 2 days remaining of charge.
First, FULLY cycle the battery. Leave it on the stand over night, run it until it turns off (if you're in a rush, ambient display, full brightness!). Then, full charge to 100% and leave it for an hour on the charger once it is full.
After that, do a factory reset on the watch (in settings). In Android Wear on phone, use the settings menu to resync your apps.
Do one more full discharge and full charge, and you should be sorted.
If not, use the Watch Battery section of the wear app to identify problem apps. Before today, I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
Hope all this works. Some of the steps seem/may be unnecessary, such as the factory reset, multiple full charge cycles. However, I speak from experience that they do work!
Edit: Do be aware that the charge cycles where you do a factory reset and sync will drastically drain the battery, giving the illusion that the problem is still there.
chrispy_212 said:
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I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
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So which app was that. Could you be specific please? I've had my 360 since October and had no issues with battery life until about 2 weeks ago and now it can't make it through a work shift all of a sudden. I've seen the 'watch idle' and the android guy with no title in the battery stats (as well as 'Bluetooth', which is mind blowing) as the main drains but I can't figure out which apps need the boot. Thanks in advance for the help, this problem is driving me crazy!
For me it was WeChat. I didn't even know it had a wear component. However, using Wear Battery Stats (available on Google Play) I noticed that there was a missing icon under "app activity" because it had updated that day. Tapping on this blank icon told me it was an activity belonging to WeChat. Using this, I deduced that was the problem app. Removing it seems to have solved my issue. I'd recommend a similar process, although I only found this app on that day due to it updating, so you may struggle. I get the impression the standard of coding of wear apps so far is pretty shoddy, I don't think not providing a package name and icon is unusual or specific to this one app.
chrispy_212 said:
Hi,
I just received a Moto 360, and I know what you're going through!
I've gone from 3 charges a day previously, and today the watch is reporting I have almost 2 days remaining of charge.
First, FULLY cycle the battery. Leave it on the stand over night, run it until it turns off (if you're in a rush, ambient display, full brightness!). Then, full charge to 100% and leave it for an hour on the charger once it is full.
After that, do a factory reset on the watch (in settings). In Android Wear on phone, use the settings menu to resync your apps.
Do one more full discharge and full charge, and you should be sorted.
If not, use the Watch Battery section of the wear app to identify problem apps. Before today, I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
Hope all this works. Some of the steps seem/may be unnecessary, such as the factory reset, multiple full charge cycles. However, I speak from experience that they do work!
Edit: Do be aware that the charge cycles where you do a factory reset and sync will drastically drain the battery, giving the illusion that the problem is still there.
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chrispy_212 said:
For me it was WeChat. I didn't even know it had a wear component. However, using Wear Battery Stats (available on Google Play) I noticed that there was a missing icon under "app activity" because it had updated that day. Tapping on this blank icon told me it was an activity belonging to WeChat. Using this, I deduced that was the problem app. Removing it seems to have solved my issue. I'd recommend a similar process, although I only found this app on that day due to it updating, so you may struggle. I get the impression the standard of coding of wear apps so far is pretty shoddy, I don't think not providing a package name and icon is unusual or specific to this one app.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't use that specific app so no luck there. Good call on Wear Battery Stats though. I actually already use it but I'll use its stats this time instead of the standard wear stats. Thanks again, hopefully I can find the culprit, been having issues with my phone battery as well recently too.
B1gC72 said:
Thanks for the reply. I don't use that specific app so no luck there. Good call on Wear Battery Stats though. I actually already use it but I'll use its stats this time instead of the standard wear stats. Thanks again, hopefully I can find the culprit, been having issues with my phone battery as well recently too.
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fyi - i haven't tested this since it happened, but i disabled BT on my phone (just disabled in settings, without disconnecting the wtch first) and the watch drained itself in probably about 20-30 minutes. When I finally got it charged, it said BT took everything.
When I was having app issues, I also noticed very high bluetooth consumption. This could likely be a poorly coded app constantly trying to ping your phone for data and receiving no reply as it is not designed for a scenario where your phone is not connected.
The alternative of course is defective hardware.
A step I did not include in my original post was that I also clean-flashed a new rom on my phone. I felt this was due to a unique problem that I had (bluetooth problems in car also) but nonetheless thought I should mention that too. It's hard to be sure which step exactly cured my watch.
Same was happening to me, after several master resets and trial and error, i found that on my Samsung s7 edge i had my watch set as a trusted device so when it was connected to my phone my device would unlock without passcode. After turning that off, battery life is normal again, 24hrs plus. I think the constant bluetooth checking to see if it was attached drained battery extremely fast, hopefully this helps someone
Hi i was using moto 360 and had a predty good battery life.But from today morning to went from 100 percent to 20 in one hour with no use .In battery stats it shows an unammed app with the defualt icon on android app a green android.Has anyone else experienced something like this and what can i do
aggelosss5 said:
Hi i was using moto 360 and had a predty good battery life.But from today morning to went from 100 percent to 20 in one hour with no use .In battery stats it shows an unammed app with the defualt icon on android app a green android.Has anyone else experienced something like this and what can i do
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Is your phone rooted? No, it's not the reason, but it may help.
Prosecutor: Objection! Judge - relevance?
Me: Your Honor, I have a point.
Judge: Sustained, you may proceed.
Hi thanks for the answer yes my phone is rooted
Cannot in any way connect the root status of the phone (?) to excessive drain on the watch.
First day of using it (got it yesterday) I got about 6 hours out of my watch. I went through playing with everything yesterday already, so not that much action today, only the regular Gmail and Hangouts notifications. Top consumer, as per the OP an unnamed app. I would have expected more from my watch, to be honest. Ideas?
Oh, and got the update notification for 5.0.2 directly after turning it on and pairing, so I'm on 5.0.2 already.
Same here
schaggo said:
Cannot in any way connect the root status of the phone (?) to excessive drain on the watch.
First day of using it (got it yesterday) I got about 6 hours out of my watch. I went through playing with everything yesterday already, so not that much action today, only the regular Gmail and Hangouts notifications. Top consumer, as per the OP an unnamed app. I would have expected more from my watch, to be honest. Ideas?
Oh, and got the update notification for 5.0.2 directly after turning it on and pairing, so I'm on 5.0.2 already.
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Hi, i got the same issue since i updated to 5.0.2. I used to get a full heavy use day and still remain 30%40% at the end of the day, after the update i only get 11-12 hours of use. Any help will be highly appreciated.
Note: My phone is also rooted.
I'm not fully through testing/verifying the following, but I made an obervation.
I used the watch the other day and got about 18+ hours out of it. Dont know exactly, just put it on the charger and was happy still having juice left.
The following day, all was going well up until to that moment I started using a timer app on my phone, which counted down at 5 minute intervals and showed a live updating notification doing so. I didnt pay attention to the watch, as the timer is phone only, but as I checked the watch at some point for something different, I noticed the battery dropped significantly since I last checked. Upon checking the battery stats, I found that the charge started dropping at about the moment I started continuously timering.
I take from this, that when using tools which interact with or update your phones notification drawer, the watch will get somehow polled as well. But I am still investigating.
In case you wonder: its an ingress portal hack countdown timer.
Question about settings?
schaggo said:
I'm not fully through testing/verifying the following, but I made an obervation.
I used the watch the other day and got about 18+ hours out of it. Dont know exactly, just put it on the charger and was happy still having juice left.
The following day, all was going well up until to that moment I started using a timer app on my phone, which counted down at 5 minute intervals and showed a live updating notification doing so. I didnt pay attention to the watch, as the timer is phone only, but as I checked the watch at some point for something different, I noticed the battery dropped significantly since I last checked. Upon checking the battery stats, I found that the charge started dropping at about the moment I started continuously timering.
I take from this, that when using tools which interact with or update your phones notification drawer, the watch will get somehow polled as well. But I am still investigating.
In case you wonder: its an ingress portal hack countdown timer.
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Do you by chance have your dev options enabled on your device that your Moto 360 is connected to? If so, I did a test on my device to see if that was a battery hog on my Moto 360 and turns out it seems to be. Un-named app (android icon) showing the most usage but the graph I have shows upon Dev options enabled, battery began to plummet badly. Just an observation. I perform testing on mobile and wearable as part of my job but I didn't have a way to analyze any logs for this wearable (moto 360). I don't have Moto's log analysis tool.
I do have dev options enabled. But as the watch is now generally behaving well, I don't think it's connected but happened to you by accident. This is only a guess though.
To be honest, I'm on xda with a couple of posts made already, of course I have dev options enabled :laugh: I use plenty of tools day in day out which need dev options. I also on a regular basis manipulate my device via adb, so dev options really is a must.
Anyway, I will observe this some more and get back to this thread in case I find any new developments.
Ever since updating to new Android 5.1.1 I'm having sudden battery drains while on stand by it will often start to warm up and I'll would see a drop in 20% battery in like 5 - 10 mins. And reboot fixes this. But this has been happening for a few days. Its not the WiFi as I have toggled the WiFi off the watch and locations are also off. I have done am factory reset a few times but no use. Any ideas? Or is it possible to reflash the update similar how you can do on android devices via adb?
POSSIBLE FIXES/ SOLUTIONS
I have summarised possible fixes and solutions to the battery drain
1. Uninstall Battery stats app
2. Re install android wear using Sony PC Companion (this worked for me)
3. Disable Google fit (credit to @maniusng)
4. Install previous version of android wear companion app
5. Fix by @Bender_0
Bender_0 said:
My fix:
I think I stopped battery drains, but not discussed in the XDA option.
Settings> Wi-Fi Settings> Wi-Fi Disable
And then in Wi-Fi settings> Advanced> Energy Saving 15 minutes.
See if you solved this to you.
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EDIT: POSSIBLE ROOT OF PROBLEM
after doing loads of testing i think i may have found the cause. its the WiFi and its drivers because i have noticed that when my phone gets disconnected and then reconnected later on, during the battery cycle i will have a drain. and if i dont allow my watch to loose connection with my phone and then i would not experience battery drain during that battery cycle.
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Try turn off Cloud sync on Android wear app on the phone if you didn't do that. Maybe this is the problem.
Mine has been draining too, cloud on or off
I had this too. The last 20% drained very quick during night in a way it never did before
Had similar issues this weekend. Even tried to use it during a half marathon run and the battery died on me during the race. Even the day before the watch just died on me after maybe 4-5 hours.
Haven't tried disabling cloud sync yet, but have turned off Location and Wifi for now. I also uninstalled a few apps I really wasn't using just in case in the background they were draining battery (even if the battery usage monitor wasn't listing specific apps.) The other thing I did was change back to a stock watch face in case the one I was using was draining battery (it was Minimal and Elegant.) Drain has slowed down, so I need to keep playing around with settings.
My guess is it's tied to apps that weren't ready for the 5.1.1 update, so we'll see if I can determine what I was using that started the drain.
supac said:
Mine has been draining too, cloud on or off
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yes checked its off in my phone as well
there is a similar thread of a user seeing what is causing the battery drain and he found out that it is "wear battery stats" as it kept waking the watch. i have unistalled this app and the watch battery seems to be ok. after another battery cycle ill let you know what happens
After receiving the update and it killing my battery from 100% to dead in 6 hrs I charged the battery over night took it off charge at 11 am yesterday and at 4 today I'm at 3 % which is 29 hrs with sync and wi-fi on and I'm using Wear battery stats.The funny thing is my battery before the update would not last even close to what I just got.
techrider6262 said:
After receiving the update and it killing my battery from 100% to dead in 6 hrs I charged the battery over night took it off charge at 11 am yesterday and at 4 today I'm at 3 % which is 29 hrs with sync and wi-fi on and I'm using Wear battery stats.The funny thing is my battery before the update would not last even close to what I just got.
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Are you using wake screen by wrist movement? It could be a bug in the accelerometer
Yes I do.My battery died around 6:30 I'm going to charge it and see what happens.
Same problem here...
Wake screen off.
Flav106 said:
Same problem here...
Wake screen off.
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Have tried the below all while Never having the phone and watch apart more than 2-3 meters:
Wifi off , cloudsync on
Wifi off cloudsync off
wifi off, clousdync off, gestures off
wifi off, clousdync off, gestures off, GPS off
wifi off, clousdync off, gestures off, GPS off + Factory reset (twice)
wifi off, clousdync off, gestures off, GPS off + Factory reset (twice), Cinema Mode
The problem still keeps coming back.
As far as i can tell nothing i do is triggering it.
My next thing to try is to uninstall anything that i can that has a wear app in it, though that's going to be very annoying.
I think most off problems are related to Cloud sync and turning it off will be good for battery. But there is something alse that is draining battery. I had problem with some watchfaces and had to uninstall them day after updating Android wear to 5.1.1. They were killing my watch. Now I am still looking what is draining battery. I'll post my results when I am finished.
Has somebody Google Fit installed and no battery life problems?
I think it could be due to the fact that I have greenifyed the watch faces and watch apps on my phone. I de greenifyed them and I'm gonna check out the battery and keep it updated.
CyberDance said:
Has somebody Google Fit installed and no battery life problems?
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Ok weird.
Uninstall Google fit, battery life is better but I'm still getting Google fit notifications.
It looks like there is a version that ships with the watch by default.... Maybe that's the issue..?
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I see no difference but use it like I always have no WiFi
Same here.. I have wear battery stats installed on my computer and I've seen sharp spikes with the battery, up to a 20% drain, that's from 2.33% to 3%. I've done the following with the same issue happening:
1. Went into recovery to clear cache
2. Factory Reset from Watch
3. Removed Wear Mini Launcher
4. Removed all additional watch faces
At first it seemed like it was back to normal.. but then I would get another sharp spike... and at times when powered back up from being dead it would act like the cache was cleared and would start the updating applications before the watch would fully start up. So I went ahead (out of anger) and did the following:
1. Removed all unnecessary applications (Stay Lit Wear was one of them.. possible suspect)
2. Reimaged with Sony PC Compainion 2 (Watch was initially upgraded through ADB)
3. Setup the Watch.
4. Uninstalled updates to Google Play Services on my Phone and reinstalled them back on the phone (thus disconnecting the watch... forcing me to.... )
5. Factory Reset the Watch again.
6. Now that I'm back up and running it seems that my battery is lasting a lot longer... at a drain rate of 1.88%.
Crossing my fingers something in there fixed my issue, and possibly helps someone else.
even after uninstalling wear battery stats, still getting sudden battery drains on idle ambient mode in 10 mins there was a drop of over 20% and it still warms up a lot. I am going to reflash using Sony pc companion.
I hope you guy with battery problem figure it out.Mine is the best It's ever been.
I had good battery life before 5.1.1 despite many apps loaded including WatchMaker Pro. Was able to get through end of day and then some.
After 5.1.1 update can't get more than 7 hours. I tried completely resetting watch, removing/reinstalling Android Wear/Moto apps from phone and clearing BT. Tried removing many apps, turned off WiFi, turned off card flip, ambient off, even turned off flip to wake which I had on before. There are less battery munching things installed and more functions turned off yet much lower battery life.
Battery Level indicator shows...
- Android Wear 8%
- Bluetooth 6%
- Android System 4%
- Screen 3%
I saw post about clearing everything off phone and starting over, which I've done.
Any suggestions?
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Edit: Based on responses below, it has been fixed.
Here is exactly what I did that solved my battery life issues after 5.1.1 update. I don't know if all steps necessary but is what worked for me...
- Go to Android Wear app on phone, Settings>Moto360 Connected>Forget Watch at bottom of screen
- Phone App Manager in Settings, Select Android Wear - Clear Data, Clear Cache, Uninstall App. Also uninstall Moto Connect app.
- Check Bluetooth, unpair watch if still there. Turn off Bluetooth.
- Reboot Phone (Do this, I missed this step and had issues)
- Do a factory/hard reset on Watch from Watch Settings
- On phone, turn on Bluetooth after rebooted.
- Install this version of Android Wear (this may not be required but is what I did)...
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...roid-wear-1-1-1-1956917-android-apk-download/
- Setup as if new watch
- Check battery level over time and hopefully 'Watch Idle' is on top of list
- After confirming battery drain resolved....
- Goto Android Wear, Settings>Moto360 Connected>Resync apps
I now get well over a 24 hours battery life with many apps installed and complex Watchmaker Pro face - everything turned on except WiFi, ambient screen. Watch Idle shows as top item in Battery level screen.
I eventually let Android Wear app update under Google Play and all was fine. It may not be necessary to install older version first but is what I did.
I have had the same results. I used to sleep with my watch on and the battery would drain about 18% in 7 hours. Since installing 5.1.1, my battery life is much worse. This morning i woke and only had 2% charge left. Today I went from 8:30am to 2:30pm and had 39% charge left with minimal use, so it burns around 10% an hour.
xenokc said:
I had good battery life before 5.1.1 despite many apps loaded including WatchMaker Pro. Was able to get through end of day and then some.
After 5.1.1 update can't get more than 7 hours. I tried completely resetting watch, removing/reinstalling Android Wear/Moto apps from phone and clearing BT. Tried removing many apps, turned off WiFi, turned off card flip, ambient off, even turned off flip to wake which I had on before. There are less battery munching things installed and more functions turned off yet much lower battery life.
Battery Level indicator shows...
- Android Wear 8%
- Bluetooth 6%
- Android System 4%
- Screen 3%
I saw post about clearing everything off phone and starting over, which I've done.
Any suggestions?
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Is there an app syncing data to your watch (Play Music) or anything? Here are my stats so far today:
- Idel 8%
- Android Wear 4%
- Android System 3%
- Screen 3%
- Bluetooth 2%
- Wifi 1%
(I had 4 other apps at 1% each that I did not list)
I have had my watch off the charger for 9 hours and lost 37% battery (4.1% and hour). The only thing I see is that your Bluetooth and Android Wear seem high, which would make me think there is some app syncing data to the watch.
Unninstall the Android wear APK that updated on June 18 on your phone, install the May 26 APK and deny the auto update feature, this worked for me.
With the update the watch lost 10% in 1 hour now it loses 10% in 7 hours
the link for the android wear apk is:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-wear/
Thanks all. I reset watch again, installed older version of Wear above and rebooted phone (important step I didn't do before). Am now getting 24+ hours even with a complex Wacthmaker Pro face I created that shows heartrate/steps/weather and 10 other stats. Am happy camper again. Watch Idle is now highest on battery activity.
BTW, Android Wear updated in Google Play to latest version and still great battery life.
7 hours is great. Mine died in 45 minutes. I got up - took it off the charger - it was at 100% - 45 mins later it had 12% left and a minute later died. I'll see how it goes tomorrow but 45 mins of battery time for a relatively new device is insane. It says that 98% of the battery is used by Android Wear.
The battery drained in 3 hours of no use, wtf happened? any idea?
I posted exactly what I did to solve my problem in the second half of the first post.
how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
hoangtu2410 said:
how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
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Go to Android Wear app on phone, Settings gear icon>Moto360 Connected>watch battery
edit: Seems odd it's so deeply hidden but the reason is because they now support multiple Wear devices so you have to select which device you want to see stats on even though most only have one.
I just bought it today but my batery life is just horrible. I updated to 5.0.2 and I don't think I should install 5.1.1.
This is what happends:
- I charge to 100%
- after 1 hour its dead.
hoangtu2410 said:
how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
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drop down on the watch or open the android wear app tap the gear at the top right then select moto 360 and there is an option that reads watch battery.
Since the update I can't seem to get to bed with the 20 per cent of battery I used to. I have tilt, ambient, gestures, wifi and auto brightness on. Should I turn off wifi or something?
Badelhas said:
Since the update I can't seem to get to bed with the 20 per cent of battery I used to. I have tilt, ambient, gestures, wifi and auto brightness on. Should I turn off wifi or something?
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Check battery level in Wear app and if Screen is high, it might be tilt, ambient, auto brightness. I'm not sure where WiFi shows up, maybe as Android System. I have WiFi turned off, would think it would be biggest battery muncher. Ambient also known to munch.
do you know how to remove moto heart rate software without root ?
I've been having really good luck with battery life considering. I lose about 3% an hour on Bluetooth and about 4% an hour on WiFi. I can't take my connected phone to work so I use another phone to create a hotspot. My watch spends about 9 hours straight on WiFi and I am having better than expected results. Tilt on. Ambient off. 180 min WiFi timeout. Stock rotate watch face. Auto brightness.
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I've got no issues with the watch on 5.1.1, but my Samsung S6 has been hit hard with the latest Android Wear app... fk me.. I used to get almost 5 hrs SOT, but now its just on 3.5hrs..
I think the watch/software is just buggy. Like today I got out at 10AM and it's now 11PM and it still has 58% battery. The other day it died in less than an hour.
PS: Perhaps it should be restarted every now and then. Reminds me of old times with Windows 98. Restart usually fixed lots of problems.
After doing the whole process of deleting apps, resetting the watch and pair the watch to the handset the battery lasted 2 and a half days
So I have a Moto 360 gen 1 and Samsung Galaxy Edge+. I just got the Nougat update on the phone.
After the update, my watch has been draining battery like crazy. I usually got a full day out of it and charged it fully at night. Now, I can't even get to 5pm.
I reset the watch and re-synced with the phone. No change. This morning it's draining at a rate of about 20%/hour which means I will hardly make it past lunch. I also don't even get call notifications now.
I'm fiddling with Android wear and watch settings to try to disable any unneeded app (I only use the watch for basic notification and step counts).
Hello,
About Nougat and Moto 360 ... I received it on my Moto G4 a few weeks ago and I'm not experiencing any battery drain.
Watch battery behaviour is the same as before when phone was in Marshmallow.
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So I have a Moto 360 gen 1 and Samsung Galaxy Edge+. I just got the Nougat update on the phone.
After the update, my watch has been draining battery like crazy. I usually got a full day out of it and charged it fully at night. Now, I can't even get to 5pm.
I reset the watch and re-synced with the phone. No change. This morning it's draining at a rate of about 20%/hour which means I will hardly make it past lunch. I also don't even get call notifications now.
I'm fiddling with Android wear and watch settings to try to disable any unneeded app (I only use the watch for basic notification and step counts).
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try uninstalling updates on Google Play Services (some app will prompt and make you update again, do that).
Uninstall and install all apps that have Wear app as well (like what apps show in Wear, uninstall the app in phone and reinstall and sync the watch in Android Wear app settings)
With such draining its just best to turn off everything unnecessary. Or turn off watch completely. With all resetting and resyncing, the watch will be dead soon anyways.. But probably it was just syncing or updating something by itself and you interrupted it by the reset so it had to do all the syncing again, draining the battery again ..