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Hi Everyone,
I'm using the xda mini s at the moment and love it. Would obviously really like to add integrated GPS though.
3G is of little interest to me, so the Orbit looks perfect.
Only problem...no keyboard. How have you guys got round that? I simply cannot be bothered to always use the stylus.....will it be pointless for me then? Or have they managed to create a good alternative.
Would appreciate anyones views and experiences.
Thanks
HPJ
well i dont have orbit however played with it for a while when my friend got one.
What can i say. Trackball and wheel solution are good, imo much better to navigate phone then normal joypad.
However. It doesnt have a keyboard
So already having external Bluetooth gps i see no reason why i would buy orbit instead of hunting for htc herald which is the same factor but with keyboard...
And that would be ( and in fact will be ) my choice. Of course question now where to get herald from as it retails for £300+... i would just wait until my upgrade time comes and buy something else and sell it in order to finance new herald.
I had a wizard before the Orbit. Have to admit that I do miss the "real" keyboard and havent really found an on screen keyboard that makes entering text as easy. I did only use it occasionally though and love the size and look of the Orbit so it seems to more than make up for it in my opinion.
Hi, I've recently upgraded from a Mini S to the Orbit.
I've not really missed the keyboard, but I guess it depends on how you use the device. I've installed the T9 phonepad .cab file that's available on here & I use that for sending text messages. Why the hell it wasn't included as standard I have no idea - seems daft cos if i remember correctly, it is included on the Mini S :s
If you use your device to enter a lot of text though, e.g. sending emails or using it to edit word documents, then you might find the on-screen keyboard very fiddly to use.
I manage to successfully type on the software keyboard with my two thumbs using the Xda Orbit in landscape mode, I make a few errors but I'm used to making and correcting those on a PC keyboard anyway so I get by. Something the same size of the Orbit with a slide out keyboard would be awesome but at the moment I can't see how it would be realistic.
The Orbit is SOOO much better. It's much slimmer so doesn't feel like such a brick (imagine the mini s minus the whole top screen section (the silver bit)
I also installed phonepad and it works well. Built in gps and slimmer phone are the key factors for me
It also has start menu and ok keys on the front, so 1 handed operation is good
If the keyboard was a real issue, I would use SPB full keyboard - check that out if you have concerns
Excellent feedback, thanks everyone.
Think it sounds worth it...think I'll make the move.
Also checked out that SPB keyboard. Looks great.
Will let you know how I get on (in case anyone else is in the same position)
Cheers
HPJ
I too am making the move from my mini s... gald to be leaving th bulk behind.
i am torn between the trinity or the artemis ... i was wondering on what you guys know about this sd card problem if you'd recommen going for the trinity instead... only thing it seems to lack is the fm radio!
any thoughts?
chickyd said:
I too am making the move from my mini s... gald to be leaving th bulk behind.
i am torn between the trinity or the artemis ... i was wondering on what you guys know about this sd card problem if you'd recommen going for the trinity instead... only thing it seems to lack is the fm radio!
any thoughts?
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SD card problem is affecting all the devices You may check the forums.
I have just contacted O2 to send back my mini s (wizard) and
I am getting an orbit instead. My old phone is a magician, and when I got the mini s, I was really disappointed!
Obviously it has features such as wifi etc that my magician didn't have, but it was a big clunky plasticy slow monstrosity.
I realised that I actually preferred my magician, so I got straight on the phone to O2.
Ok, rant over. The point of this is that I didn't appreciate the keyboard on the mini S at all. I have spb fullscreen keyboard and spb pocketplus on my magician, and I never ever have to use the stylus. I set the icons on the pocketplus today screen to large, and use the soft keyboard for texting etc.
The keyboard for me makes the device practical, I don't think I'd still have a pda phone if I hadn't discovered it.
I actually dropped my stylus at my friend's house and wasn't aware that it was missing until she returned it to me nearly three weeks later...
By the way, I don't work for spb or anything lol!
If you read about the apple iphone, you'll see that they have done away with the stylus by using a similar interface.
Obviously the way to go!
I've always used the letter recogniser on XDA's find the on screen keyboards clumbersome.
My other half hates the bulk of the keyboard on her Mini.
I've moved from the Mini-S to XDA orbit. Full screen keyboard is ok, but I find it a little cumbersome.
I've just discovered the International T9 Phonepad from this very forum, and it works a treat, well, once I discovered "Tab" was "space" anyway!! Great for notes and calendar entries, and makes one-handed text entry a real possibility. Definately worth a try!
I've been using my Dash on the weekends at certain times instead of my tytn and I am desperately looking for an autotext or autocorrect applicaton. Basically, I do a tremendous amount of emails on my phone and this application allows me to type in three letters in an email like "mrq" and have it replaced with "meeting request" or "btw" and replace it with "by the way". I use Kai' autocorrect.net on my tytn and it lets me write emails so much faster.
the xt9 on the dash is an annoyance and does not perform the same function.
Qoolapps makes qcaps and qcorrect, but it only works on the motorola q.
Bumping this up to the top again. If anyone has any suggestions, please help. I really need this.
Bump here --- (AUTOTEXT solutions for WM5/6)
I have used Kai Autocorrect but recently it seems to have issues with some of the WM6 ROM's - can't pin it down so input on that would be great.
But also if there are any other options - it amazes me this is such a simple yet killer app for the BB .... example type bb = Blackberry .. type wm = WindowsMobile.... thxm = Thanks Much!
Not using mouse stylus and all that jazz just on the fly word conversion and completion with a self defined library of words. AutoCorrect again does most but has not been updated in a long time.
Thanks for anything ---
I am confused, too: used it on a Excalibur? I thought it runs only on PPC??
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I have used Kai Autocorrect but recently it seems to have issues with some of the WM6 ROM's - can't pin it down so input on that would be great.
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Thanks for anything ---
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XT9 (DB edit) or Autocorrect alternative.....
Correct -
The issue is the WM6 Smartphone version and PPC versions differ in how they do Autocorrect - which for many is brutal pain..... the PPC version has in /windows a hidden file called autocorrect.0409.txt which can be manipulated to add/delete words from your dictionary and you can control it.
The Smartphone/WM6 since it uses ughhhl XT9 yada it uses a different DB which is apparently tough to edit - manipulate - to anything with.
As much as I wish the Smartphone worked like the PPC, I think I am hoping for a prayer here that won't happen - so I see only 2 options that would get us close to that:
1 - Some way to get control to add/edit change this XT9 DB
2 - An add-in app (which I have asked a Dev to look at but says its rough) to run resident and give us the same as what exists on the PPC/WM6 on the smartphone.
The sad part is all in all I could see the SmartPhone needing this even MORE since it's keyboards are usually smaller any anything to minimize keystrokes is key.
This is so sad --- Anyone that can help I would be so grateful. Even if there is some way to port some of the WM6/PPC ROM components over would be VERY NICE!!!
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A call to all developers ... this is the only thing I miss from my BlackBerry ....
Someone must be able to amend either QCaps or MagicKBLite to work?
HI all;
When I bought the Artemis first time there was an app,like a notepad where I could just draw and save.It was very useful to jot down things very fast without typing.For ex I could use stylus and draw ,there was also a recognition after drawing.So could save a lot of time
But the new ROM's doesnt have it.I tried to find it from the forum.But couldn't find it.Any one knoe it?I also dnt know the name
the latest wm6 roms are using office mobile 2007.
there you will find "one note mobile", which is far better! even touchscreen notebooks are using onenote.
greetz
thormdac said:
the latest wm6 roms are using office mobile 2007.
there you will find "one note mobile", which is far better! even touchscreen notebooks are using onenote.
greetz
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Hi friend;
I know one note.But u can't draw there right?I mean there was a possibility to draw words and save it.After drawing in the menu there was an option to recognize that too.That one is what I am looking for.
Thanks to any one who has it.
Regards
Yes you can - nt got my pda on me but im pretty sure its one of the options when you clikc the arrow next to the keyboard...
Juice05 said:
Yes you can - nt got my pda on me but im pretty sure its one of the options when you clikc the arrow next to the keyboard...
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HI friend;
Thats a block recognizer option or letter recognizer.I mean is a software where u can write this and save as it is.So next time u can see it more like a picture.U understand?
Regards
Some of the cooked ROMs do not have the handwriting recognition feature, I don't know whether it is missing from the O2 WM6 ROM too, or just from Tom's cooked ROMs.
must have been that, it wasn't hard to stumble upon when i was having a quick play thats why i thought it was there.
Thanks
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must have been that, it wasn't hard to stumble upon when i was having a quick play thats why i thought it was there.
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Yes I know what u mean,Thanks for ur reply.
Its smthing like a ms paint for windows.We can write something using the paint brush and save it as a pic right?
I should have remembered it
I am an idiot
Sorry friends only yesterday did I find that the notes application can be used in the same way to write with stylus on screen.it had to be changed from type to write in the options menu.
Thanks to all those who contributed.
just a note -- if you want BETTER handwriting-type note apps, then maybe you should try out Phatpad. I tried it on my x51v before and the feel of the ink was a heckuva lot better than the default Notes. It can also handle your writing a lot better -- and apparently with Calligrapher (Phatware's version of Transcriber) you can draw in Phatpad and have drawing converted to text quite reliably.
I haven't had the cash to buy the app yet myself, but I might pick it up again one day when I have more cashola.
Ragart said:
just a note -- if you want BETTER handwriting-type note apps, then maybe you should try out Phatpad. I tried it on my x51v before and the feel of the ink was a heckuva lot better than the default Notes. It can also handle your writing a lot better -- and apparently with Calligrapher (Phatware's version of Transcriber) you can draw in Phatpad and have drawing converted to text quite reliably.
I haven't had the cash to buy the app yet myself, but I might pick it up again one day when I have more cashola.
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thnx i will try it
You should check Multipad.
It is not a freeware but a great proggy I use on a day to day basis.
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/html/display_product.jsp?id=prod5680792
Another Possibility
Don't forget Pocket Informant - as well as being a very good PIM, it features a Note taking facility on which you can also set alarms...which is nice!
Thanks to all
Thanks every one,I will try out the ones u guys mentioned.
regards
OneNote mobile
Actually, I'm also interested in expanding OneNotes Mobile possibilities in the way regular notes work (to draw a note with pictures and handwriting without recognition and being able to sync it with my desktop version of oneNote)
Do you know any add-ons that can help?
I heard the keyboard for WP7 is nice by default and ill find that out when i get my phone in a couple days but i was wondering if there will be any other keyboards for WP7 like Android has SWYPE. Do you think they will come with the upcoming updates , apps on the marketplace, or with the WP7 "Jailbreak"?
There are no other keyboards available at this time.
However, I can say that the WP7 keyboard is, in my opinion, the finest software keyboard on the market, hands down.
Swype and the HTC IME keyboards on android are good.. but they pale in comparison to this one in my experience.
Agree 100%.
The buttons are not bigger than Android..but I seem to be able to type more accurately on WP7. No idea why. Nice, nontheless.
I've bought my device (HTC HD7) in Germany and it doesn't have Cyrillic keyboard. It's not a problem for me to use English interface, device supports displaying Cyrillic fonts but I can't type text on two Cyrillic languages which I'm using the most.
Do not having the ability to add Cyrillic keyboard at the moment is THE MOST ANNOYING thing with the device. I simply can't use it for basic needs like writing SMS or e-mail to somebody on my native language. When buying the device I thought that It shouldn't be a problem adding a keyboard but now I am very disappointed. Need to use second device (old Nokia smartphone) each time when I should write something on Cyrillic on the way. Ironically, HD7 does not support sharing Internet connection to my secondary device, so I have to pay for two Internet-enabled plans which makes me completely unhappy.
Is any way to help me without selling the device back?
Hi guys, do you know how can I get Russian keyboard on my spanish WP7 LG e900?
thanks!
agentnobo said:
I've bought my device (HTC HD7) in Germany and it doesn't have Cyrillic keyboard. It's not a problem for me to use English interface, device supports displaying Cyrillic fonts but I can't type text on two Cyrillic languages which I'm using the most.
Do not having the ability to add Cyrillic keyboard at the moment is THE MOST ANNOYING thing with the device. I simply can't use it for basic needs like writing SMS or e-mail to somebody on my native language. When buying the device I thought that It shouldn't be a problem adding a keyboard but now I am very disappointed. Need to use second device (old Nokia smartphone) each time when I should write something on Cyrillic on the way. Ironically, HD7 does not support sharing Internet connection to my secondary device, so I have to pay for two Internet-enabled plans which makes me completely unhappy.
Is any way to help me without selling the device back?
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davicito13 said:
Hi guys, do you know how can I get Russian keyboard on my spanish WP7 LG e900?
thanks!
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are wp7 devices sold in countries that use that language? If not, I'm not sure you will get any support from microsoft until they are.
ShadowLegion said:
I heard the keyboard for WP7 is nice by default and ill find that out when i get my phone in a couple days but i was wondering if there will be any other keyboards for WP7 like Android has SWYPE. Do you think they will come with the upcoming updates , apps on the marketplace, or with the WP7 "Jailbreak"?
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From about three weeks of use so far, I'd say it's the second-best software keyboard I've ever used, after the iPhone keyboard. I can usually type faster than I could on the HTC keyboards on WM and Android. On the iPhone I could type without even looking down because the autocorrect works amazingly well for the most part-- not quite there yet on WP7 (despite a physically larger screen and thus keyboard), but almost.
For now, there's no way to replace the keyboard, though for standard use, you probably won't need a replacement one. Makes sense for non-Latin characters, but WP7 basically lacks Unicode support (very few character sets built in), so it can't do much for non-Latin scripts anyway.
I find WP7 to have the second best keyboard ever, too. But, I disagree in that I find it more accurate than the iPhone keyboard (or at least better at autocorrection). I find the autocorrect makes fewer contextual errors and will allow many intentional strange words while correcting most typing errors.
However, the keyboard on my Blackberry 9700 still rocks the Optimus 7
I dunno, but I don't think I will ever be as efficient in typing on the virtual keyboard as the real one. Aside from accuracy, it is simply far easier to enter common symbols (like quotes, dollar signs, dashes, and parenthesis) and numbers. Parltly because physical keys allows for more accurate smaller keys. Also, having a real mouse-like cursor is massively useful for typing and editing.
Ok fine, yes, there are WP7 devices with slider keyboards, but I dislike sliders... yes, yes, I'm picky.
Talys said:
I find WP7 to have the second best keyboard ever, too. But, I disagree in that I find it more accurate than the iPhone keyboard (or at least better at autocorrection). I find the autocorrect makes fewer contextual errors and will allow many intentional strange words while correcting most typing errors.
However, the keyboard on my Blackberry 9700 still rocks the Optimus 7
I dunno, but I don't think I will ever be as efficient in typing on the virtual keyboard as the real one. Aside from accuracy, it is simply far easier to enter common symbols (like quotes, dollar signs, dashes, and parenthesis) and numbers. Parltly because physical keys allows for more accurate smaller keys. Also, having a real mouse-like cursor is massively useful for typing and editing.
Ok fine, yes, there are WP7 devices with slider keyboards, but I dislike sliders... yes, yes, I'm picky.
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well when phones start coming out with the chassy 3 (candy bar style) then you will have a windows phone which also has the same layout as your blackberry.
The Gate Keeper said:
well when phones start coming out with the chassy 3 (candy bar style) then you will have a windows phone which also has the same layout as your blackberry.
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Hi wonderful developers,
I was disappointed with the pen writing application in the Note.. I used to use the stylus application with the Windows Mobile 6.1 - HTC Touch HD - phone and it had a -- Letter Recognition -- writing app built in which was brilliant when u got used to it after a few days.
I could write faster than typing and no need for extra pressing of buttons to get characters and punctuation. This was especially useful when using Spreadsheets and entering times with a colon separator as well as formulas. It was so good that I still carry it with me and use it to log all my jobs, times and notes for my work. It is very fast at Character recognition but it's so slow opening files etc and has a small screen compared to the Note 2 7105.
It had an Input area at bottom of screen with 3 sections. The first for Capitals (write as a normal lower case letter) The Middle section was for normal lower case letters and the Right hand side was for punctuation , numbers, and symbols etc.
IT WORKS GREAT ! (once you get used to it)
Is it possible to make this for the Note 2 ?????
The resultant size occupied at the bottom of the screen can be relatively small compared to a keyboard etc....
Please Please Please consider this - it really is the best Input method I have found yet !
Thanks
and thank you also developers for all your hard and ingenious work which is transforming my Note 2 into a fantastic necessity...
aerostar (ianyt77)
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