[Q] No network access after Play Store sideload - Amazon Fire Phone

Anyone else have any apps that can't access the network after sideloading the Play Store?
Specifically, I'm trying to get my banking app, Simple, to work. It's not in the Amazon store (I've contacted them about this.), and when I search the Play store, it doesn't show up. Googling for the link tells me that the app is incompatible, so next step is to sideload it, and it works, but says there's no network access when I try to log in.
Initially, I chalked it up to the app, but then Waze was crashing on me, so I reinstalled (from Amazon), and after I got it to load, it was complaining about no network as well. I got Waze to work after some fiddling, not really sure what I did.
Anyone else having these sorts of issues? I've turned off auto updates from the Play Store, and I've installed very little from there.
If anyone wouldn't mind sideloading the Simple bank app to see if you can log in, I'm curious. (You don't need a valid account, I get the "Check your network connection" error regardless of what I put for credentials.)
Thanks.
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If Play says the app is not compatible it is probably because it requires Android 4.3 or better to run. Forcing the app onto Android 4.2.2 (FireOS) is just asking for trouble. Maybe look for an older version of the app or wait for the FireOS update that hopefully will be out in the next month or so.

Xyth said:
If Play says the app is not compatible it is probably because it requires Android 4.3 or better to run. Forcing the app onto Android 4.2.2 (FireOS) is just asking for trouble. Maybe look for an older version of the app or wait for the FireOS update that hopefully will be out in the next month or so.
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Ah, thanks for the tip. I doubt I can find an older version, so hopefully the update is out soon!

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Google Play does not play well with Fire

Well, after getting the android SDK and Kindle Fire adb driver set up, the phone has the Play Store icon on the launcher.
Sadly of course, amazon locked it down and it crashes before it can sync with google.
I'm going to make it my weekend project to see if I can get it to run. Before I do, I assume the play store app needs to have root, correct?
I can't even read scripts on /
So that means no play store, nothing worth mentioning yet.
ionbladez said:
Well, after getting the android SDK and Kindle Fire adb driver set up, the phone has the Play Store icon on the launcher.
Sadly of course, amazon locked it down and it crashes before it can sync with google.
I'm going to make it my weekend project to see if I can get it to run. Before I do, I assume the play store app needs to have root, correct?
I can't even read scripts on /
So that means no play store, nothing worth mentioning yet.
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see if you can get a logcat, maybe you missed some other apks or just installed playstore as a data app (playstore needs system permissions)
Google Play Solution
ionbladez said:
Well, after getting the android SDK and Kindle Fire adb driver set up, the phone has the Play Store icon on the launcher.
Sadly of course, amazon locked it down and it crashes before it can sync with google.
I'm going to make it my weekend project to see if I can get it to run. Before I do, I assume the play store app needs to have root, correct?
I can't even read scripts on /
So that means no play store, nothing worth mentioning yet.
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I think you also have to install Google Play Services to make it work.
True, I'm only realizing that now that gplay runs a daemon, which is probably going to be blocked or somehow jailed from running on fire (even with root).
I've been messing around with towelroot but I think this whole thing about not being able to root it has to do with some kernel features.
I can't wait to be able to take this off my buddy's at&t plan, though. Unlimited data with tmobile
at&t can shove it for telling me I can't unlock it.

Everything was fine, now Playstore won't load

A few months back, I had side-loaded Google apps onto my stock device.
(I'm on 4.6.6.1 now - not sure if this upgrade happened recently...)
I am using it with a Project Fi data-only sim and letting the kid use it for Pokemon Go.
All of a sudden, PoGo won't start (GPS signal not found), and I can't load the Play Store (it just says at a blank white screen). Anyone else have something like this happen, and is there a simple fix?
Me too,today Nov 11 my google maps and play store dont work
same for me since 4 days....
I'm not on stock atm but in the past that exact thing would happen to my Google play if Google sent an update for it's services that somehow broke it on the firephone. Google has made about 3 updates this month so try reinstalling an older version or something and see if it works.
I don't need this when the whole world is falling apart.
nismo87 said:
Me too,today Nov 11 my google maps and play store don't work
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All my fire phones were working fine with side loaded framework, google services, play store etc. as explained in the xda forum. They would automatically update and nothing broke except for a brief period a year or so ago which got fixed automatically after a few days. I know Google broke it with an update at that time, but not sure who fixed it -- Amazon or Google.
But now, the same things has happened. With Google Services update a couple of days ago things have come off their moorings.
Youtube, Maps, and the Play store itself are on the blink. Other things which require Play services also are gone, of course.
I am afraid, this time around, Amazon seems to have really given up on the fire phone. So the chances are quite bleak that they would take any trouble to fix this. eg. They don't even support Amazon Music Unlimited, and Audible on their own Fire Phone! Both are Amazon's own products!!
Check out this thread, last couple pages. Got me going again (for now, anyways).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fir...ay-store-4-6-1-version-4-apks-t3098592/page16
Same here - good to see it was neither me, nor I'm alone, yet let's see how to solve this!
Got me going for a day and a half..
resarfekim said:
Check out this thread, last couple pages. Got me going again (for now, anyways).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fir...ay-store-4-6-1-version-4-apks-t3098592/page16
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Thanks. That got me going for 36 hours. Then it automatically started updating, and back to square one... Google Play Services has stopped working blah blah blah..
The deicsion to freeze and branch off from a version of Android was a very short-sighted selfish, customers-be-damned decision.
Amazon seems to be a really bad version of Apple without the technical wherewithal to sustain itself.
What a pity. The fire phone itself is a great one.
Is there any chance that a non-Google non-Amazon fix can work at all?
Fireinthebelly said:
Thanks. That got me going for 36 hours. Then it automatically started updating, and back to square one... Google Play Services has stopped working blah blah blah..
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Same here
Since we're here, I'm assuming we have our phones rooted. That said, is there some way to just block the updater with a firewall or something similar?
The new google play services update broke all amazon google services in stock fire OS
We have to block the update process or wait for fix in next play services update
Anyone find a way to fix it
Br,
Shahzaib Jahangir
I had this exact same problem and it started last night as well, I tried reinstalling but then I got the "Google Play Services has stopped" message repeatedly, i'll keep looking as I need this fix asap for work
Crephix said:
Since we're here, I'm assuming we have our phones rooted. That said, is there some way to just block the updater with a firewall or something similar?
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"Wrong!!"
Sorry, the would is still fresh..
No.. none of my phones is rooted. The beauty of this Xda-forum solution of side loading the four files (Account framework, Account Manager, play services, & play store) was that they don't have to be rooted.
Just update framework and Login Component to Version 4.4.4 and delete the data from store and Services and everything should be fine.
fuzolan said:
Just update framework and Login Component to Version 4.4.4 and delete the data from store and Services and everything should be fine.
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Updating all manually to the newest kitkat version does seem to do it (though, I only just did it). Didn't even check the versions as I assumed they auto-updated as well. Should last a bit longer now till that version is too old.
Good catch. Thanks.
sandsofmyst said:
Updating all manually to the newest kitkat version does seem to do it (though, I only just did it). Didn't even check the versions as I assumed they auto-updated as well. Should last a bit longer now till that version is too old.
Good catch. Thanks.
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Hi!
I have the same problem here. Google Play Services crashed.
My Fire Phone is not rooted. Can I update to the newest kitkat to solve the problem?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Same here
Hello i have 5 phones whit the same problem i cant open any for google my easy solution is root and put cm11 rom and al working again.......
But i prefer the amazon os :/
fuzolan said:
Just update framework and Login Component to Version 4.4.4 and delete the data from store and Services and everything should be fine.
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have you got a download link?
thanks
musicman100 said:
have you got a download link?
thanks
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This post in another thread should work for you, fixed mine up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69658319&postcount=167
Fireinthebelly said:
All my fire phones were working fine with side loaded framework, google services, play store etc. as explained in the xda forum. They would automatically update and nothing broke except for a brief period a year or so ago which got fixed automatically after a few days. I know Google broke it with an update at that time, but not sure who fixed it -- Amazon or Google.
But now, the same things has happened. With Google Services update a couple of days ago things have come off their moorings.
Youtube, Maps, and the Play store itself are on the blink. Other things which require Play services also are gone, of course.
I am afraid, this time around, Amazon seems to have really given up on the fire phone. So the chances are quite bleak that they would take any trouble to fix this. eg. They don't even support Amazon Music Unlimited, and Audible on their own Fire Phone! Both are Amazon's own products!!
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Not sure if people are still following this thread but I thought to share. I was able to sideload Amazon music unlimited. It disables native music app but doesn't launch using the same app link. I need to use ES Explorer's App library function to select and launch. Otherwise it works well. Not sure if the audible app would work the same.

Netflix - device incompatible

I was messing around with xposed and Sony framework for ps4 remote play. I tried running Netflix and got an error, don't remember syntax. So deleted Netflix and tried to DL and now it won't show in play store . went to history to see it and says incompatible. So I did a dirty flash of same older ROM, same thing. So i did a full reset and installed lineage and same thing, incompatible. What am I missing?
Bad enough my nexus' rotation is broke, touch screen randomly doesn't take inputs, usb port broken, only charges and can't connect PC for files. Wireless charging randomly doesn't work and drains over night, etc. The one thing I had was some browsing and Netflix.
I had the same thing, the last update of Netflix it said it was incompatible and since then it doesn't show in the Play Store. Luckily I still have the previous version installed, but failing that you could try installing version 4.8.5 from https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862715472
olliebean said:
I had the same thing, the last update of Netflix it said it was incompatible and since then it doesn't show in the Play Store. Luckily I still have the previous version installed, but failing that you could try installing version 4.8.5 from https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862715472
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****ers. This did it meanwhile I thought my **** was broken bad.
Now lineage looks OK but typing in browser has 2 second delay before showing on screen.
Incidentally having looked further into the Netflix problem, apparently this is deliberate on Netflix's part; they've just decided not to allow installation on unlocked/rooted devices. At least they haven't blocked it entirely, I suppose, but I see lots of people threatening to close their Netflix accounts over it - most of the recent Play Store reviews are 1 or 2 stars because of it.
Yeah people are getting their accounts locked and banned due to this. Such a silly move from Netflix, classic corporate decision and they think it'll help stop piracy with offline downloads then people using root to grab them and upload them. Seems the long way to do it haha. If anything this will drive people to piracy, however we who root are a big niche so I doubt they'll care.
Magisk will get around this but you gotta be careful as if stuff updates then SafetyNet breaks and you open Netflix you'll be screwed. Or use an old apk like someone mentioned further up. Though this may turn server side soon.
it's because ur rooted. the netflix company has started blocking ppl from installing netflix to a rooted device or a device with an unlocked bootloader. idk most of whts going on but i think it has something to do with androids version of widevine. u can still get the latest netflix by sideloading the app from downloading an apk from a trusted source like apk mirror. hope i helped!

Android Auto

It was suggested I come over here and see what's going on. I've got a 5t with Oxygen.
I've never been able to get Android Auto to load, once. It always says "Something went wrong - Google Play services doesn't' seem to be working right now."
I can't Force Stop the Google Play services, or deactivate it. I've cleared my cache. I don't have a Android Device Management App installed either.
I enrolled and updated to the Google Play services Beta, but haven't still can't force stop it either.
Where do I go from here?
I don't know about this issue.
But I can say I use Android auto daily in my car and have no issues.
I have a Volkswagen caddy 2017 and use ob3
I sideloaded the app because it is not officially released in my country. I use version 3.0.
@dashbarron,
I have the exact same problem . I've also gone the play services beta route with no joy. I've tried literally every possible solution I've come across on the web, still no joy. I can't get past this.
Did you ever get AA to work? How?
Thanks!
-Warren
dashbarron said:
It was suggested I come over here and see what's going on. I've got a 5t with Oxygen.
I've never been able to get Android Auto to load, once. It always says "Something went wrong - Google Play services doesn't' seem to be working right now."
I can't Force Stop the Google Play services, or deactivate it. I've cleared my cache. I don't have a Android Device Management App installed either.
I enrolled and updated to the Google Play services Beta, but haven't still can't force stop it either.
Where do I go from here?
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I don't know if you have used Android auto before, so maybe you really like it and my advise maybe of no use to you. But while it is good to use, I soon reverted back to using split screen, top half for nav and bottom half to easily switch between music or radio or whatever else you want, even set up a YouTube video before you get going if it's something that doesn't require your focus on it, with gestures it's safer than messing around with the complicated controls in my car! And I have the plug in version of Android auto built into the car, I literally only plug it in when I have my daughter's on board so they can call out ok Google for whatever tune they want on. Anyway that's how I roll when driving and I'm driving all day everyday, hope maybe I saved u some time getting it working

Play store issue and Netflix on Android 10

Seems the phone with 10 it's "uncertified device", I checked magisk hide, wiped play store storage, rebooted and... still no Netflix, but most importantly certified device is ****ing gone! No more section under play store settings! Any ideas?
The Netflix issue has existed for months and is unrelated to 10. Do a search, and you will see my name all over the posts. As for the device not certified issue, hide Play Store with Magisk clear cache and data and then uninstall updates so it reverts to factory Play Store which will update and certify..
DvLAx3l said:
Seems the phone with 10 it's "uncertified device", I checked magisk hide, wiped play store storage, rebooted and... still no Netflix, but most importantly certified device is ****ing gone! No more section under play store settings! Any ideas?
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Google - Netflix apk mirror. Install the latest from there. It will update from the play store after even.
sliding_billy said:
The Netflix issue has existed for months and is unrelated to 10. Do a search, and you will see my name all over the posts. As for the device not certified issue, hide Play Store with Magisk clear cache and data and then uninstall updates so it reverts to factory Play Store which will update and certify..
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I did everything again, also uninstalled the updates like u say (I didn't try it before) and nothing changed, the strange thing is this, look the screenshot, the certified section under settings in the store is completely gone!
EDIT: I've installed an old apk and now when I've open the play store link of the app it's says "the application it's not compatible anymore"
I did some testing on this in another thread and it seems the issue is the unlocked bootloader. Has little or nothing to do with the Playstore being certified which mine is.. and still can't install Netflix from the store. I sideloaded on the final version of 10 and Netflix does work.. But it's still a hassle.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80130789&postcount=2079
DvLAx3l said:
I did everything again, also uninstalled the updates like u say (I didn't try it before) and nothing changed, the strange thing is this, look the screenshot, the certified section under settings in the store is completely gone!
EDIT: I've installed an old apk and now when I've open the play store link of the app it's says "the application it's not compatible anymore"
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jbarcus81 said:
I did some testing on this in another thread and it seems the issue is the unlocked bootloader. Has little or nothing to do with the Playstore being certified which mine is.. and still can't install Netflix from the store. I sideloaded on the final version of 10 and Netflix does work.. But it's still a hassle.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80130789&postcount=2079
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DvLAx3l - From what I have seen, when it shows neither certified or not it is actually certified and just waiting for the next play store update to trigger it. Not certified is an issue. It may be that when you installed 10 the play store version was already at that one. Tap on the version number, and that will check to see if what you have is the latest and if not queue it up for change. When it does change, you might have to go through the steps again of hide, clear cache and data and remove updates to get it to trigger. I have been through this a bunch of times including finally getting it to work the other day when the update finally pushed.
jbarcus81 - Unfortunately it is something beyond the BL unlock since that is masked my every custom kernel and it remains an issue. It appears to be related to the device, the OS and the BL state at least. I have wondered out loud if Google tracks the BL status by individual device and records the status based on lock and unlock changes. Bottom line is that certified doesn't mean jack anymore. It is basically low hanging fruit while things like GPay and Netflix are looking well past that.
Just wait a few days and play store will update the app.
Like u guys said, everything is work now! Thanks ?
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Google - Netflix apk mirror. Install the latest from there. It will update from the play store after even.
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Thank you! Worked for me. But then had to update payment method lol

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