MHL / USB Audio dock on AOSP - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3

I've hunted high and Low and have never found a direct answer. I've been thinking of finally ditching Touchwiz for my note 3 as I did on my note 10.1. However, I need MHL for my in car audio/video link to function properly, so the headphone jack is out of the question. I know MHL works on the Google play edition Samsung phones, so I know it's not impossible.
Long story short, if anyone knows if any kitkat or lollipop aosp roms have working mhl support, speak up.
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HDMI output, help?

Hey guys, I am interested in getting HDMI out to work, I bought a generic mhl USB to HDMI cable, I am on TLS 10/15 4.1.2 rom (cm10) and I have a 55" led 3d lg smart TV.. I connect everything accordingly, main to phone - power to mini USB input on mhl, and out to HDMI on TV, change to the proper input on television and I get nothing, but occasionally my phone goes into dock(clock) mode....? No visual output on TV ever tho... oh and my phone charges as well.... does anyone out there use HDMI out? Is there something that I am missing, setting , apps, option in ROM?.... thanks in advance.
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Hey guys, I am interested in getting HDMI out to work, I bought a generic mhl USB to HDMI cable, I am on TLS 10/15 4.1.2 rom (cm10) and I have a 55" led 3d lg smart TV.. I connect everything accordingly, main to phone - power to mini USB input on mhl, and out to HDMI on TV, change to the proper input on television and I get nothing, but occasionally my phone goes into dock(clock) mode....? No visual output on TV ever tho... oh and my phone charges as well.... does anyone out there use HDMI out? Is there something that I am missing, setting , apps, option in ROM?.... thanks in advance.
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Most likely its the adapter. I bought the Samsung branded adapter and it was a POS. A lot of he adapters are finicky. Id suggest ordering a different adapter and if that doesn't work you can rule it out, return it, and look elsewhere for problems.
I've had great success with this one. It's got an extra long cord which is nice also.
http://shop.mobileweb.ebay.com/sear...apter&cmd=SREF&mfs=GOCLK&acimp=0&isNewKw=true
What ROM are you on?
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sirdowski said:
Most likely its the adapter. I bought the Samsung branded adapter and it was a POS. A lot of he adapters are finicky. Id suggest ordering a different adapter and if that doesn't work you can rule it out, return it, and look elsewhere for problems.
I've had great success with this one. It's got an extra long cord which is nice also.
http://shop.mobileweb.ebay.com/sear...apter&cmd=SREF&mfs=GOCLK&acimp=0&isNewKw=true
What ROM are you on?
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Cm10 October 12th 4.1.2 build by last sidekick... apparently I've found that others on cm10 are reporting no HDMI connectivity as well... so I guess ATM I'll have to wait.. my cable seems to be of high quality and advert said that it was compatible with our phone.
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ru11er said:
Cm10 October 12th 4.1.2 build by last sidekick... apparently I've found that others on cm10 are reporting no HDMI connectivity as well... so I guess ATM I'll have to wait.. my cable seems to be of high quality and advert said that it was compatible with our phone.
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I turned it on using ROM Toolbox build.prop editor: add an entry with property name "ro.hdmi.enable" and set the property value to "true", reboot, and it works. I copied this setting from a flashable zip from another forum.
But both on CM10 nightly 10/17/2012, and AOKP nightly 10/15/2012, I found that after disconnecting the cable my phone often has a reboot (not exactly a Random one in this case), as if it had been destabilized, had a memory leak, or some such. So my guess is that the developers have left this setting out to avoid the issue until other issues get fixed. The video and audio quality were fine, however, so the basics are there.
Jack
Edit 10/25/2012: both current AOKP build 5 and CM10 nightlies still reboot after using HDMI in this fashion, in my experience within the first minute after detaching the micro-USB/hdmi connection (I am using the Samsung on, but the same occurred with the Menotek one) the Hercules will simply reboot. So this is an instability which occurs with both ROMs, and it also persists with the kernel from the King Kangers AT&T Thread, which otherwise works well: [Kernel]3.0.43[JellyBean]AOSP/ETC | King Kangers One | .11 |SKYROCKET Edition|
Besides making use of HDMI less useful (though I haven't seen it reboot while actually watching video that way, using Youtube or local video), it seems to betray an underlying bug in the kernel or in both ROMs.
ru11er said:
Cm10 October 12th 4.1.2 build by last sidekick... apparently I've found that others on cm10 are reporting no HDMI connectivity as well... so I guess ATM I'll have to wait.. my cable seems to be of high quality and advert said that it was compatible with our phone.
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Ahh. Gotcha.
Backup and flash a diff ROM to see.
Keep an eye on the adapter though. I had a Samsung official MHL adapter and it died on me for no reason.

[Q] MHL adapter incompatibility

I'm having some issues getting my MHL adapter to behave properly. I have my E4GT running ICS MIUI, and I also have my work phone which is a sensation 4G running stock ICS, unrooted.
I ordered 2 different types of MHL adapter, a menotek and an official Samsung, and have been trying different combinations to get it to work on my 1080p TV.
1. MHL will work with both my E4GT and my work phone is they are running Froyo, but with no gamepad compatibility this is a dealbreaker.
2. No ICS roms I have tried will mirror over MHL. Mijz goodness just shows a black screen on the TV, whereas MIUI won't even show that (but it will change to landscape and lock rotation on the phone).
3. My work phone works 100% mirroring. This isn't ideal since my wish of MHL mirroring and gamepad compatibility is for my personal phone with all of my games on it.
4. Any combination of connecting the MHL power, HDMI cable, or connecting to the phone (Since I read the order *might* have an effect) is fruitless when running ICS builds of Mijz goodness, Viper, Recalked, or MIUI, on both adapters.
5. Searching the forums is fruitless, since most threads point back to threads with people either saying it should work out of the box, or no, it will never work since the source code for mirroring isn't released yet.
6. Both adapters are verified working with my work phone.
So the question is, what am I doing wrong? I noticed an HDMI mirroring notification comes up on my Sensation when mirroring, but nothing comes up on my personal phone. Is it missing a key program?
sounds wierd.. to answer some of your questions.. mhl support doesnt work with any aosp ics or jb rom that im aware of.. only tw based roms.. i havent had any issues with any tw based ics rom. i usually have hdmi to the adapter, then plug power to the adapter, then plug into the phone.
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sounds wierd.. to answer some of your questions.. mhl support doesnt work with any aosp ics or jb rom that im aware of.. only tw based roms.. i havent had any issues with any tw based ics rom. i usually have hdmi to the adapter, then plug power to the adapter, then plug into the phone.
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Well, I went back to the stock rom and sure enough MHL works. I haven't had luck with any other rom so far, even TW based roms.
It could be my TV, adapter, or any combination of things. I know stock works and I'm happy.
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Well, I went back to the stock rom and sure enough MHL works. I haven't had luck with any other rom so far, even TW based roms.
It could be my TV, adapter, or any combination of things. I know stock works and I'm happy.
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Which stock rom? Gingerbread, FI03, FI27?
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Which stock rom? Gingerbread, FI03, FI27?
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stock 4.0.4. I needed it to be ICS for gamepad compatibility. I flashed a couple of kernels and MHL mirroring is not kernel dependant, unlike when HDMI mirroring was implemented on EVO 4g.
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stock 4.0.4. I needed it to be ICS for gamepad compatibility. I flashed a couple of kernels and MHL mirroring is not kernel dependant, unlike when HDMI mirroring was implemented on EVO 4g.
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Thanks for your response. I'm also on stock 4.0.4 (FI27), but unable to get MHL working. I posted about it here.. Which adapter are you using? I don't really need it, but it's not the first time I've made a foolish purchase. Maybe I'll get another one.
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Thanks for your response. I'm also on stock 4.0.4 (FI27), but unable to get MHL working. I posted about it here.. Which adapter are you using? I don't really need it, but it's not the first time I've made a foolish purchase. Maybe I'll get another one.
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I just tested it on my menotek adapter. It doesn't work, but it does with the OEM samsung adapter. They're $9 now.
The more recent versions of touchwiz broke compatibility with the Menotek adapters.
You might be able to get them to work in DVI mode, but they fail HDMI initialization.
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I just tested it on my menotek adapter. It doesn't work, but it does with the OEM samsung adapter. They're $9 now.
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That's a great price. Any chance you have a link? My search finds them for $12+.
I'm also finding this one at Monoprice, which seems like a decent price ($10.20).
Menotek works with FK23.

Tab S 10.5 + Lollipop 5.02 + USB DACs

after working perfectly with 4.4 - my Fiio E17 DAC no longer works with my Tab S
from reading forums this seems quite a common complaint across Samsung users - including some Note 4 users (although bizarely some seem to have no issue)
I am not sure if it is a combination of the Tab S Exynos chipset + 5.02 + my specific DAC that has an issue - so has anyone with a Tab S and Lollipop got any USB DAC to work please ? I find the Headphone out rather poor (nowhere near as god sounding with my headphones as my Note 3) - but the screen class leading - so the combination of the Tab S + USB DAC was absolutely superb
I have read of one user using a E17 with a Sony device and Lollipop 5.02 - although can't verify it
I think Samsung had their own USB audio implementation before on 4.4 - which worked flawlessly for me - have they moved across to generic Android 5.02 implementation - and therefore could that be the issue (but doesn't explain why some non Samsung devices working ok) - OR has Samsung disabled their own USB audio but hasn't somehow implemented the 5.02 audio correctly?
hence I was wondering if anyone has managed to get USB Audio out of their Tab S please
USB audio works fine in USB Audio Pro tool - but you can only play local music content, 99.9% of my Tab S usage is with Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video etc etc
thanks for any help
LOVING Lollipop on Tab S otherwise so would be a shame to have to go back to 4.4 just for USB Audio
Bought an Oppo HA-2 and am having the same issues.
Sounds totally distorted using Player Pro, Poweramp, Samsung native music player, Spotify.
On Poweramp. the sound is distorted and the speed is super slow ie it gives the low demonic voice, like when slowing down a LP.
I don't want to have to load the Tab S with audio files and that only to use UAPP.
Fiio E18 here, works flawlessly with my Sony Z3 Compact.
On Tab S 10.5 LTE just gives slowmo playback and massive distortion..
I'm in the same boat. I used to use DACs with my Tab S 10.5 fine on the stock OS (4.4 I think), but when I upgraded to Lollipop it just hisses at me when I plug one in now. This is esspecialy annoying as I've just bought the Oppo HA-2 as well. I find this very odd since Lollipop is supposed to bring generic support for this to devices and yet it has stopped it working here. My wife has a Elephone P7000 (running Lollipop) and that works fine. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and a Galaxy Alpha (both running 4.4) and they work fine, butt if the Alpha (my main phone) gets an upgrade to Lillipop I will have to leave it now, as I need these two devices to work (they look so damn pretty together!).
Have you complained to Samsung about this? If so have you got a response? I think I will mention it to them now...
Im having problems as well...ive recently got a tab s 8.4...i upgraded to lollipop right out of the box...damn!
Anyway....my device is SMSL X-USB (XMOS based usb receiver). Works great with UAPP but not natively....no sound. On my Note 4 with lollipop 5.1.1 UAPP and native works great with it.
I want native to use RDIO, TUNEIN RADIO ETC....and then use UAPP for my hidef 96/24 flacs.
Im thinking of trying some custom roms but there are so many! Has anyone had any success with any of the custom roms?
Ok, I decided to change my entire Car Tablet install. Eliminate my Bluetooth head unit for a DAC and a DSP only to find issues. Both my Tab S 8.4 and S6 Edge will NOT WORK without using UAPP. But that's a music player. So no Android app sounds go through it. No YouTube, videos etc. Total fail with Samsung. I can test a HTC M8 just to try. Nexus 7 fresh from the 5.1.1 update doesn't work but I don't trust using my current DAC, since it's a 5.1 Surround Asus Xonar U5.
I've been trying to find DACs that work but haven't found much. I joined HeadFi and found some people that ditched the awesome Tab S for the downgraded Tab S2 because their USB SPDIF only DAC worked on the Tab S2.
I wouldn't mind downgrading to 4.4 to make DACs work, but will not get rid of my lovely screen, size, and install to go to a different tablet I dislike.
Like I stated I can't trust the Xonar, it's not a typical DAC. Unless someone can confirm it works with the Tab S on 4.4.
I know I'm not a 10.2 user but virtually the same devices, including the Tab Pro. So no need to make a new thread.
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So, Cheap USB DAC's are working fine on Samsungs with Android 5+. But the ones I've tried out that are capable of digital audio output don't work unless using UAAP. This is not Ok. Time to look for a CM10 Rom to install on my Tab S. This is a huge failure on Android 5. I don't think its just samsung because my Nexus 7 on 5.1.1 OEM (Maybe CyanogenMod 12 as I have not tried it yet) also does not work, as well as my HTC M9. Everything works if using UAAP, but thats just a Music Player, does not work with any other audio. I personally might end up trying a decent priced DAC with only Analog output. Since I can't hear the difference in quality in my car.
USB audio out and DACs
I had same problems with usab audio out on lollipop on tab s, nexus 7 and LG G3.
I eventually got Tab S T805 USB audio out to work after I flashed the AICP 5.1.1 rom. Worked perfectly.
Last week I flashed the AOSP Marshmallow ROM and USB audio out and this works perfectly too.
I am sending to an Audio GD DAC via an OTG adaptor.
Eventually got the G3 to work on lollipop by using a powered hub but this did not work for Tab S.
Buckster76 said:
after working perfectly with 4.4 - my Fiio E17 DAC no longer works with my Tab S
from reading forums this seems quite a common complaint across Samsung users - including some Note 4 users (although bizarely some seem to have no issue)
I am not sure if it is a combination of the Tab S Exynos chipset + 5.02 + my specific DAC that has an issue - so has anyone with a Tab S and Lollipop got any USB DAC to work please ? I find the Headphone out rather poor (nowhere near as god sounding with my headphones as my Note 3) - but the screen class leading - so the combination of the Tab S + USB DAC was absolutely superb
I have read of one user using a E17 with a Sony device and Lollipop 5.02 - although can't verify it
I think Samsung had their own USB audio implementation before on 4.4 - which worked flawlessly for me - have they moved across to generic Android 5.02 implementation - and therefore could that be the issue (but doesn't explain why some non Samsung devices working ok) - OR has Samsung disabled their own USB audio but hasn't somehow implemented the 5.02 audio correctly?
hence I was wondering if anyone has managed to get USB Audio out of their Tab S please
USB audio works fine in USB Audio Pro tool - but you can only play local music content, 99.9% of my Tab S usage is with Spotify, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video etc etc
thanks for any help
LOVING Lollipop on Tab S otherwise so would be a shame to have to go back to 4.4 just for USB Audio
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interestingly I get proper sound out of Neutron with their new "direct to USB" option
except then my Note 3 crashes
Neutron?
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It's a music player
Whilst talking about USB DACs - someone on another thread posted a work around for Note 3 and USB DACs and woks perfectly on my Note 3 but no go on Tab S
If you just want to play Music, try UApp. I'm completely against settling for JUST a music player. I want to play a movie and YouTube and everything.
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I totally agree as most of my usage is the likes of Spotify etc
The workaround for my Note 3 although adds a few steps allows you to use DAC for all apps but doesn't work for Tab S
Annoying as the headphone out from my Note 3 is very very good anyway but the output from my Tab S I find rather poor and the main reason I bought the DAC in the first place !
Yes. I'm hoping there is a fix on 6.0 because I am not ok with just music. My tablet is built into my car, with a optical DAC, and a Helix DSP.
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I can't comment on the fiio as I've only got the amp only E11k but I can say my turtle beach earforce 450 DAC seems to work fine on my tab s. No surround, obviously, but I do get sound.
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All analog DACs seem to work. It's the DACs that have an optical out that are having issues.
Might join in on the Android 6 pages to see if they can fix the Native drivers. Doubt Samsung really cares enough. Typical DACs are working, that's good enough for them.
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Well, guess the "Native" USB DAC 'crap' Google has implemented doesn't work worth a damn on 6.0 either. Soo odd how it works almost flawless across soo many platforms before Android 5, then they release "Native" drivers that cripple all worthwile DACs. It's like they are purposely preventing us from using better DACs than that was installed internally so we'd be forced to use the Wolfson.
And Apple devices have Optical built in. Lol
Anyway I'm on 6.0 now testing out my Asus Xonar. Same issues as before. Using UApp it works but since UApp is 'only' a music player it leaves all other audio routed through the tablet. Noticing one issue that's new, there is a click sound every couple seconds of music playback that wasn't there on 5.1.1.
Need to find me a pre 5.0 CyanogenMod Rom to run.
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what about trying your stock 5.0.2rom with another kernel? like ironkernel or skyhigh kernel.
i do(or want to) belive dac suport is a kernel issue
if already are on lollipop 5.0.2 i would try this before anything else
i am currently on 4.4.2 and was just about to update to 5.0.2, had read it has native dac suport lol.
just tought i would check if there was any issues first
becouse i do have some issues of my own with my cheepo 5$ ebay pcm2704 dac with optical out (everytime i coldstart my xenons or i bump my cable it gets disconnected/connected in an instant and then sound gets wierd kinda like an echo of sorts, and i have to close music player remove cable wait a bit plug in and all is fine. quite annoing and dangerus now in the wintertime when there are frequent xenon cold starts) was hoping 5.0.2 would solve this.
im in the same boat as many others, dac suport inside player does nothing for me, as im using the tab as gps/mediasenter
so from what im reading im gonna live with it or atleast until someone have tryed 5.0.2 with another kernel
Cmon be a guinnipig, your device doesnt work anyway nothing yo lose ;p
Name the kernel and Rom, I've been on them all. I'm a vivid tester. It's not a kernel issue. This "native" support, technically just removed drivers for some dedicated DACs. Leaving the others that have been tested and proved working for years... Yes years before "native", I know I've been using DACs in all my tablet car installs from cheapo eBay 1 dollar pos dacs to high end, removed. The app UApp has this specific driver built into the app itself.
However what your describing sounds like a wiring issue.
I even jumped on the Android 6 bandwagon. It's not working on OEM Samsung Android 6 that was just released in beta form.
The hifi forum has 790 pages of info. And page one a collab of info on what dacs work and how they work.
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indeed i had wirering issues, nothing was sheilded, resoldered otg with sheilded cables and grounded dac chassie to cable (at the same time made a y on the otg cable for simulcharge with 88kohm resistor) and behold all is as should. ( all but a clicking sound left so i guess my dsp needs the same treatment) thanks
no build with a fix thats just wierd, there are so many clever rom/kernel builders in here
guess we cant do nothing but hope for a fix then
thanks for testing and letting us know

MHL problem

Hi all,
I am having problems connecting my M8 to my TV with an MHL to HDMI converter. I connect everything up as instructed and it doesn't work. It charges my m8 but that's it.
I have tried it with my galaxy S2 and it didn't work. Then I flashed it back to stock ROM and it was fine. It worked perfectly.
The M8 is running stock Vodafone Rom. Android 5.0.1 sense V 6.0
Has anyone else had MHL working with this setup? I'm wondering if MHL is broken on the M8 Android 5.0.1 stock ROM?
Has anyone else had an MHL converter that worked on an S2 but not on an M8?
Thanks everyone for any replies.
Ok. After having a search it seems that some "cheap" cables will be a bit hit and miss. I.e. they might work for some phones and not others. The cheap electronics probably don't have much leeway with the way the device outputs the stream.
I ordered an official Samsung Galaxy S2 mhl adapter to try that out. I saw on another thread that this worked with the M8 without a problem (probably much better electronics inside). It actually cost me only £2.99 - the same as the unbranded cheap one ??? Should have gone for a Samsung one from the start!!!
I'll post my results when it arrives.
Meanwhile - any issues getting MHL to work on the stock ROM I've got? Or should this ROM work fine?
it worked
Although I didn't get any response I can confirm it DID work.
So I'll add some sentences here so this might appear in search results for others with the same issue:
Working MHL to HDMI adapter for HTC one M8
Samsung MHL adapter for HTC one M8
Which MHL adapter for HTC one M8
MHL adapter not working on HTC one M8
I can confirm that the Samsung MHL adapter for the Samsung Galaxy S2 works perfectly with the HTC one M8.
The CHEAP adapter I got from EBay does NOT work. So if you are having problems getting an adapter to work then this is likely the problem. The cheap one does work with my old Samsung Galaxy S2 - so it's not faulty. However, the cheap ones must not meet the specs quite right to be compatible with every device. So a cheap one may or may not work with your device - it's pot luck.
I picked up an official Samsung one for only £2.99 - just as cheap as any other.
This is a quality device. And should work with all phones (as long as they are not 11 pin ones).
On another note. If you are not running a stock ROM make sure that it supports MHL.
On my old galaxy S2 running the Centinal ROM MHL would not work. I switched it back to stock ROM and it worked just fine.

USB Audio doesn't work?

I just bought a Fiio K1 USB dac/amp to use with my laptop, but I also read that it works with some smartphones via an OTG cable. So I hooked it up to my S6 with my OTG cable and it didn't work. Sometimes I would hear a weird static noise, but otherwise my music wouldn't come through any output while the K1 was plugged in. I then tried my same OTG cable and K1 with a friend's Verizon S6 and it worked flawlessly. Both of our phones are running Android 5.1.1. What's going on? Did Sprint butcher USB audio on the S6 with their custom ROM? I'm really disappointed.
If anyone has gotten USB dacs to work with their Sprint S6, was there anything special you had to do first?
first it was hml now this. I'll try it later tonight
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thank you for the usb audio idea. I tried it on my phone, my usb dac works fine on the sprint s6. im using hacker kernel, perhaps that makes the difference?
BTW, I had to update the firmware of my usb dac so that it can work with android phones.
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thank you for the usb audio idea. I tried it on my phone, my usb dac works fine on the sprint s6. im using hacker kernel, perhaps that makes the difference?
BTW, I had to update the firmware of my usb dac so that it can work with android phones.
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I would assume it works for you because you are running a different kernel. I can't know for sure though until someone other people can chime in. Thanks. I would go a custom kernel route but I got out of the rooting/modding scene a while ago.
After upgrading to Marshmallow, this still doesn't work.
Have you used OTG Troubleshooter to see if your OTG is working correctly? Also try using Onkyo HF player and USB Audio Player Pro. A lot of phones that don't natively support USB audio will work through those apps.
Getting the same here... A bit of occasional "digital static" (like old cell phones near a speaker) when I start a track, but that's about it. Often the progress indicator won't even start on a track. However, "Neutron Audio" does show that there's specifically a Fiio K1 connected, and Android (7.1.1 CM14.1 based on hsbadr's Note4 builds) did prompt me to allow Neutron access to this audio device.

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