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OK so a bit of history...
I just sent back a galaxy note 2 n7100 to amazon (removed all trace of root)
Sent it back as I installed root and custom rom - managed to lose imei etc (didn't backup)
Even after the noble efforts of some kind forum members I could not save the phone
They have sent me a new note n7100.
I want to root it and back it up only. I can live with stock samsung rom
I don't even need cwm installed as the root is for a few certain apps and a cheeky overclock.
Is it safe enough to just root? Will I be able to unroot and update my stock rom?
Thanks
Dan
There are stickies everywhere with information on rooting. Only you will know when you are comfortable enough to root your phone. If you are not comfortable doing it, , don't. Read and study more until you are not longer afraid.
NightHawkUndead said:
There are stickies everywhere with information on rooting. Only you will know when you are comfortable enough to root your phone. If you are not comfortable doing it, , don't. Read and study more until you are not longer afraid.
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Yeah I have read stickies and such.
I was comfortable with rooting my galaxy s3 as I had no problems with it.
I just don't want to ruin my new note 2
spanielgita said:
Yeah I have read stickies and such.
I was comfortable with rooting my galaxy s3 as I had no problems with it.
I just don't want to ruin my new note 2
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I just picked up the Note 2 yesterday and looking to do the same . I came from the vibrant which had no flash counter or normal rom check . From what I've read cf root is most likely what I'm going to use but I'm not very familiar with this flash counter stuff . I'm on the jump plan and plan on upgrading in 6 months and I don't want my upgrade to be rejected due to flash counter and so on . An help is much appreciated .
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I kinda think you have to root for firewalls, avast anti theft, no ads, also directory bind and increased sound Volume.
The root is pretty simple and there are enough guides to get your counter reset and indeed lose the modified tag. It worked for me.
Dr ketan has a few real good guides. Don't be scared. I've rooted four of these and now I've a custom rom too.
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Is tmobile note 2 n7100 or n7105 how do I determine this . Thanks
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Settings, about device. It'll show model number in there
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Thats the first place I looked sgh-t889 so where is everyone getting n7100 and n7105 from .......... Lmao I think I'm in the wrong thread . Just saw the tmobile galaxy note 2 thread .
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Rooting is a piece of cake. It's finding a custom Rom that suites you which is the real problem. It's like a jungle out there for us noobs.
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If the gains you perceive from rooting (custom ROMs, Tasker/Titanium, nandroids, etc) outweigh your risk-aversion to possibly losing your warranty or damaging your phone, then don't do it.
Having said that, if you follow all the instructions carefully and understand the process, you should have no issues. I've rooted the last half dozen phones/tablets and it's been smooth sailing.
After losing my IMEI it took me almost 3 weeks to find a solution to my uprooted device, now that I regained the IMEI back I rooted it for the first time, installed the triangle away and returned the status to normal the counter was already 0. I've also noticed that the OTA update is functioning properly.
Found the correct thread and files and I've successfully rooted and have the unlimited multi window mod .
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How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
Lol. @ agentfour20 Yeah I did see your phone show up as that on your posts but wasn't sure. Glad you got it sorted now.
Edit - ismo29 I know what you mean but I think this phone doesn't need a custom rom as much as most
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lu1gj3s said:
How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
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Framaroot is OK for a last call. But the issue is that it still can open doors that normal rooting doesnt.
I use the prerooted stock with odin
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lu1gj3s said:
How come no one knows about Framaroot?
I use it to root; then freeze and uninstall apps with titanium and then fully unroot
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jetbruceli said:
Framaroot is OK for a last call. But the issue is that it still can open doors that normal rooting doesnt.
I use the prerooted stock with odin
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Samsung have also patched the vulnerability in newer firmwares.
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spanielgita said:
OK so a bit of history...
I just sent back a galaxy note 2 n7100 to amazon (removed all trace of root)
Sent it back as I installed root and custom rom - managed to lose imei etc (didn't backup)
Even after the noble efforts of some kind forum members I could not save the phone
They have sent me a new note n7100.
I want to root it and back it up only. I can live with stock samsung rom
I don't even need cwm installed as the root is for a few certain apps and a cheeky overclock.
Is it safe enough to just root? Will I be able to unroot and update my stock rom?
Thanks
Dan
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Mate its perfectly safe to just root and install recovery so you can do your nandroids and EFS BACKUP THIS TIME LOL
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If you r not going to root then u will never get the the real test of android.... Using stuck boring ROM everyday...bad idea...
Just root and enjoy the your android...
Just some reading I came across. seems that kitkat is upping security with dm-verity on boot. Looks like modifying may get more complex in the near future. Everyone is worried about Samsung's Knox warranty flag but Google is trying to road block as well.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
Thinking some s4 users should check this out as many here are concerned about Knox...
Edit: chainfire did his thing and rooted. I'd be interested to see if any errors come from apps gaining root access or whatnot
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tylerholbrook said:
Just some reading I came across. seems that kitkat is upping security with dm-verity on boot. Looks like modifying may get more complex in the near future. Everyone is worried about Samsung's Knox warranty flag but Google is trying to road block as well.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
Thinking some s4 users should check this out as many here are concerned about Knox...
Edit: chainfire did his thing and rooted. I'd be interested to see if any errors come from apps gaining root access or whatnot
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I'd think those elements of 4.4 could be removed at the source code level for custom ROMs to be able to be installed on previously rooted devices. Or be bypassed in some way.
It's not an easy fix for developers, but I'd bet you it can be done.
As for exploiting devices that ship with 4.4 that's another story. But for clean installs of 4.4 ROMs on already rooted devices I'd bet this is doable.
And if not, Android and Google can bite me for wanting to be more like Apple and I'm sure the phone modder community will see a huge swift toward the Ubuntu mobile platform that never really got enough steam to get properly started due to the popularity of Android.
Yeah, chainfire already has a oneclick root for the nexus 5 pre loaded with 4.4, so root is still achieved at least with nexus. Wondering though if 4.4 will get harder and harder with the bootloader and what not for phones like the galaxy series and note, guess time will tell but I'm going to do some research before I get my next phone loaded with 4.4.
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When I ran the PA 4.4 build on the N7 (2012). Getting root was pretty easy. I also had no issues with running TB or any other rooted app. I am looking forward to more 4.4.
I flashed 4.4 on my Gnex last night and gaining root was as easy as flashing the root zip.
Wonder than what that article means than.
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Wonder than what that article means than.
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The article, and the issue point to a grim future for any phone besides a nexus that ships with KitKat. Unlocking these new devices such as the Galaxy S5 just got a whole lot more difficult.
what you can and cannot flash with a Nexus phone or anything else with an unlocked bootloader is irrelevant.
That's what I was thinking, also official otas from carriers as well right? Aosp 4.4 builds should be alright? Since htc is getting kit kat should that shed any insight to where this is going?
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Interesting
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I flashed 4.4 on my Gnex last night and gaining root was as easy as flashing the root zip.
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Yeah but what if you weren't able to use a custom recovery ? Would it be as easy then ?
Gaining root on a device with a locked bootloader is the real challenge. When you have an unlocked bootloader you can do what whatever you want pretty much...
It may make exploiting new phones harder (someone will definitely achieve it though), but any phone that is currently unlocked should be fine as this can easily be disabled in AOSP builds.
Upgraded from a note 2 to a 3 and I'm loving it. I always root and are coming from jedi roms. Is the note 3 that noticeably better rooted? I've read alot of threads where people have many problems. I genuinely wanna root asap but are hesitant. Someone help push me over the edge to flash land
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GhostZini said:
Upgraded from a note 2 to a 3 and I'm loving it. I always root and are coming from jedi roms. Is the note 3 that noticeably better rooted? I've read alot of threads where people have many problems. I genuinely wanna root asap but are hesitant. Someone help push me over the edge to flash land
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Ok. Let me push you over the edge. I had never considered rooting a phone until I got the note 3. I decided to root so I could customise the pen widow ap. It has been the best thing that I have ever done with a phone. Yes the note 3 can be a little temperamental when attempting to flash ROMS but there is a lot of support and if you need help pm me and I will help to get you going. Going to put in a plug here for my ROM of choice. JEDI ROMS are good but I have not found a better setup so far than X-Note. Any questions about it and I will be glad to answer. Don't let other people's problems change your mind about rooting. This is a must root device.
Thanks mate, is that compatible with tmobile. I checked thread and it looks pretty sweet. I liked the air command themes. I got some questions, I'll pm you
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Totally worth it man. Very easy to do as well. Not only the customizations mentioned above but also aosp roms and such are wonderful. W03 Slim is fantastic!
It's so easy to unroot the phone and go back to stock, so you might as well give it a shot and see how you like it. Unless you're completely incompetent then nothing too bad should come out of it. I personally like having my phone rooted without any custom ROMS. But that's just me, a lot of others would say different.
I am hoping to unlock SIM for a t-mobile phone / region unlock. I understand I can do that by rooting it. Can I root and leave it with stock firmware, and will I get OTA updates? Also, is it safe and easy to unroot. IF it's unrooted, will they know it was rooted (i.e. warranty void?)
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Rooting doesn't void warranty either. I was skeptical too. Rooted on 4.3 and loving it.
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Rooting doesn't void warranty either. I was skeptical too. Rooted on 4.3 and loving it.
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Waiting for my phone. Hopefully it's still on 4.3. So can someone confirm I understand everything all this correctly.
I can root with Root de vega (if still on older firmware) and it won't trigger anything to void warranty. I just want to use region unlock to try unlock the sim/region. After that...I can either unroot? or keep it root. IF I keep it root...but I want the latest firmware (not custom)...is that possible? I've seen video about flashing the firmware from Sammobile with Odin which brings it back to unroot stock...but what if I just want the newest stock firmware without unrooting? Do I need some other recovery and flash something else? Will putting in different recovery cuz the warranty tracker to trigger?
I'm currently on 4.3 stock rooted 0x0 flag. I'm curious about KK but heard about a HUGE flaw with apps not able to write to external sd card...Therefore rendering them practically useless.
I'm assuming I shouldn't update ota and instead flash. But what will I need? And has the sd card issue been fixed?
I'm just looking for something more stable and a little slicker. Would like to stay tw or stock/ stock debloated.
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Since you haven't pulled the trigger yet, like me, I would hold off a little longer and wait to see what 4.4.3 brings us. It is just rumored right now but it is supposed to be a bug fix release. From what I have gathered, you really aren't missing anything big by not being on KitKat. I have had the itch to go ahead an upgrade too but I am going to wait to see when 4.4.3 is likely to hit us first.
in my humble opinion....
NO!!!!!!!!
So if I get any urges to want to change things up I should stay on 4.3?
I'm still debating breaking knox or not. I never plan to use knox and haven't decided if I plan to trade this in for jump or not. I'm loving the battery life and have no gripes but minor hiccups.
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Naturesretard said:
I'm curious about KK but heard about a HUGE flaw with apps not able to write to external sd card...Therefore rendering them practically useless.
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If you root KK, there is an SD fix. Otherwise don't.
krelvinaz said:
If you root KK, there is an SD fix. Otherwise don't.
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Why are people telling me not to then? I thought the sd issue was the only issue with KK
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A lot of people are having problems with KK. If they have rooted, the SDcard issue is not one of them since there is a fix for it. if you don' t have root, then it is a problem with no fix.
I'm one of the minority. Rooted Stock 4.42 with no real issues. Battery is fine, SDcard is fine, WiFi is good etc...
Oh so those got it pre installed have issues but those who flash while rooted are fine.
Would you say you notice any stability or noteworthy features over 4.3?
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Yes. Absolutely no problems on stock rooted KK. Flash wicked and its even better.
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Oh so those got it pre installed have issues but those who flash while rooted are fine.
Would you say you notice any stability or noteworthy features over 4.3?
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I didn't say that.
I was rooted before on 4.43 however, keeping root was not an option when I did the update. I used Odin to flash 4.42 and re-rooted (triggered Knox), loaded the sdcard fix and loaded TWRP in the process.
I was not having any issues on 4.43 though. KK got me better battery usage and access to new software.
If you are rooted, you can apply the sdcard fix. If you are not rooted, I don't think there it's a fix for that.
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I didn't say that.
I was rooted before on 4.43 however, keeping root was not an option when I did the update. I used Odin to flash 4.42 and re-rooted (triggered Knox), loaded the sdcard fix and loaded TWRP in the process.
I was not having any issues on 4.43 though. KK got me better battery usage and access to new software.
If you are rooted, you can apply the sdcard fix. If you are not rooted, I don't think there it's a fix for that.
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Since you are still on 4.3, you can easily root using Kingo or de la vega method without triggering knox.
After that, upgrading to 4.4.2 is very easy and you still have root and warranty.
If you don't care about knox, then you can just update and use Chainfire to root 4.4.2 (knox warranty void). It is pretty simple.
I have 4.4.2, root (from my previous rooted 4.3) and warranty intact + SD fix and xposed mods. The phone is just amazing now.
Thats Like Saying Should I Buy These New BOSS rims for my car HAVING the money.
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The only issues I've heard due to the kitkat update are terrible battery life and the SD card issue. There's a flashable zip to fix the SD card issue and I believe installing the Foldermount app does some kind of fix. The battery life issue seems to be fixed after a simple factory reset, however, you'd have to root the device like others have stated. My phone runs great on KK. I'm getting awesome battery life and I have not experienced any problems whatsoever.
You can get improved battery life on 4.3 by removing bloat, and there's no need to apply a fix so you can use the sdcard normally. Is there any real improvement in 4.4.2?
Frank
After a week of hearing about the problems I just went ahead and upgraded why? Who doesn't like to have the newest? Plus there are fixes if your rooted. If not well maybe you are screwed but who wouldn't want to root? Been doing it since OG evo 4G
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Does anyone have any issues recording video with KK? I updated the just the modem (running Slimkat) and can't record videos or sometimes can't play youtube videos in HD. It's not a rom issues. Might go to stock KK and than try reinstalling everything.
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After a week of hearing about the problems I just went ahead and upgraded why? Who doesn't like to have the newest? Plus there are fixes if your rooted. If not well maybe you are screwed but who wouldn't want to root? Been doing it since OG evo 4G
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Funny, me too. I still have my og Evo 4g. Have you noticed any difference in battery life compared to 4.3? I have root and knox In-tact and apparently it's easy to upgrade...but I don't want worse battery life.
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You won't have worse battery life bud. I'm pretty sure that will be rom and kernel related. Theirs like 4 to 5 kit Kat toms out their now. All good. All different, over in the international forum the rom that made me go to kitkat was XNOTE v11. Was a great rom but build international of course, hyperdrive is great one too good battery life I can't complain. Lean kernel will save the most battery
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Alright I'll have to do some digging and find a flash able rom...and finish my root by breaking knox finally and flashing a recovery.
As easy as it makes things, I'm worried to break knox. Not because of warranty. Lol I know tmo doesn't give 2 ****s about root...
My concern is when I want to sell the device, maybe retaining knox flag will help increase the price point.
This phone is a powerhouse. Easily able to last for the next few years until EoD. Throw In the obvious office features and a still working knox (albeit being able to be reset at samsung warehouses (I'd cite the info but I'm not in front of my desktop)) who wouldn't want this phone for work?
Thoughts?
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Yes. Absolutely no problems on stock rooted KK. Flash wicked and its even better.
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I did the same but I am having issues with my network sticking on the new baseband. Do you have any issues Mike ? I feel like my phone goes to 4G / 3G more then what it did before. LTE was working before I jump to KK. Also when I got phone calls before, my network would go from LTE to 4g on calls. Now it goes to 3G. What is going on ????
Hi everyone, I just had my phone repaired at the factory, sent in with a stock T-Mobile 4.2.2 ROM, but came back with KNOX.
I HAVE NOT booted the phone up -- I put it into download mode only to see the KNOX flags. But it's probably been booted before for testing at the factory.
Is there anything I should/can do before I turn it on normally (to help with ridding myself of KNOX problems)?
Eventually, I want to root it and/or install a custom ROM.
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Hi everyone, I just had my phone repaired at the factory, sent in with a stock T-Mobile 4.2.2 ROM, but came back with KNOX.
I HAVE NOT booted the phone up -- I put it into download mode only to see the KNOX flags. But it's probably been booted before for testing at the factory.
Is there anything I should/can do before I turn it on normally (to help with ridding myself of KNOX problems)?
Eventually, I want to root it and/or install a custom ROM.
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You can go ahead and boot up. There's nothing you can do right now at this moment that will save you versus later in time.
If they wiped your data and you're starting fresh, you may want to look into it soon as so you don't gain personal data which then you'll need to back up (extra step).
As for rooting/custom roms I cannot speak for the S4 but I can look into it if requested. But you could (I mean hopefully..) search the forums just as well as I can, so..
Hope this helps,
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Yup, I will search away. Just good to confirm that turning it on won't do me a disservice. Thanks!!
Chainfire like usual. Custom recovery. Will trip Knox. But only problem is a warning message on boot up.
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Chainfire like usual. Custom recovery. Will trip Knox. But only problem is a warning message on boot up.
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Warnings don't bother me, but I would like to have the ability to reset the KNOX flag in case the phone needs to go back for warranty repair.
Is KNOX resettable to zero in that way or is it irreversible?
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Warnings don't bother me, but I would like to have the ability to reset the KNOX flag in case the phone needs to go back for warranty repair.
Is KNOX resettable to zero in that way or is it irreversible?
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Sadly once KNOX is tripped there is no going back
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j111 said:
Warnings don't bother me, but I would like to have the ability to reset the KNOX flag in case the phone needs to go back for warranty repair.
Is KNOX resettable to zero in that way or is it irreversible?
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It is programmatically permanent. Meaning that there isn't a method of resetting it via software but only by hardware (board replacement etc). There will soon be a Riffbox solution where you can reflash the bootloader by a serial port, you will undoubtedly have to solder the tiny wires to the microscopic solder points on the board. (Yikes) We hope to god that someone finds a knox exploit soon.
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Thanks everyone for the replies!
WOW! Hard to believe. So no one with a newer S4 or S5 can root without voiding warranty? No going back? That's terrible.
I wonder if this means less people are rooting these days. Darn, I want to get rid of bloat, but warranty is important to me.
I assumed with the advent of the S5, someone had figured it out. Here's to hoping someone does.
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Thanks everyone for the replies!
WOW! Hard to believe. So no one with a newer S4 or S5 can root without voiding warranty? No going back? That's terrible.
I wonder if this means less people are rooting these days. Darn, I want to get rid of bloat, but warranty is important to me.
I assumed with the advent of the S5, someone had figured it out. Here's to hoping someone does.
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People have been reporting that they have sent there phone in on a warranty with KNOX tripped to 0x1 and getting it back with KNOX set back to 0x0. I guess it's a hit or miss.
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People have been reporting that they have sent there phone in on a warranty with KNOX tripped to 0x1 and getting it back with KNOX set back to 0x0. I guess it's a hit or miss.
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I have yet to hear a report about warrenty being denied due to knox. So it's not a real worry. At least not yet.
If you can make and receive calls your good. It's not that bad,
Pp.
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If you can make and receive calls your good. It's not that bad,
Pp.
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Yeah Knox is like Herpes. You can't get rid of it, but its only annoying once in a while. Usually it doesn't affect you.
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How fast does KNOX increase?
Does Knox increase EVERY time you load a new ROM, or a new recovery, or re-root?
That is, once it goes to 0x1 does it stay there, or if you are playing around a lot, does it quickly go 0x2, 0x3, and up and up and up?
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Does Knox increase EVERY time you load a new ROM, or a new recovery, or re-root?
That is, once it goes to 0x1 does it stay there, or if you are playing around a lot, does it quickly go 0x2, 0x3, and up and up and up?
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It stays at 0x1. Nothing happens to your phone in general. It still operates the same.
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I think it goes up, have read in the forum about counter going up to 3+.
Pp.
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I think it goes up, have read in the forum about counter going up to 3+.
Pp.
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Thats a first for me. How and why would it go up? Just curious.
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Don't know, I'm on the MDL bootloader, but have heard of the count going uo.
Pp.
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No. The knox counter does not go up. Its either tripped or it isnt.
The flash counter goes up everytime you flash something in odin, but not when you flash stuff in recovery.
Flash counter and knox are 2 different things
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No. The knox counter does not go up. Its either tripped or it isnt.
The flash counter goes up everytime you flash something in odin, but not when you flash stuff in recovery.
Flash counter and knox are 2 different things
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This is directly from the source:
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CyanogenMod 11 Nightlies Now Available For The Galaxy Note 3 On Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon, And International LTE Models
Well, if you've been flashing ROMs for a while without bricking or messing up your phone, then tripping KNOX shouldn't be an issue. All KNOX is is an alarm for Samsung to know if you've done anything to void your device. So if you ever do brick your phone or anything, even if it's hardware issue on their end, they can then say you're the blame just because they know you tampered with it. Even if it's their own fault. But if you know what you're doing, then it really doesn't matter. And they still won't really know until you try and turn it in one day and they look to see if the trip counter is 0x1 or 2 or 3. If it's 0x0 then it's good to them.
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Pp.
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That is just not correct. Knox is absolutely not just a way for Samsung to see if you have messed with the phone.
Its a security feature to allow the device to qualify as a secure system for business use. Some enterprise software won't work if the knox flag is tripped. That allows it to be more secure as you can't simply hide root so a root checking app will still function.
This prevents data theft for businesses. That is what knox is there for. It was not put in as a warranty check.
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