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I'm using T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 on AT&T network and cant receive calls when I'm on data network (read browsing, facebook app, slacker radio app).
I'm on AT&T EDGE. Is there anything that can be done to avoid this? Thanks.
blueguy19 said:
I'm using T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 on AT&T network and cant receive calls when I'm on data network (read browsing, facebook app, slacker radio app).
I'm on AT&T EDGE. Is there anything that can be done to avoid this? Thanks.
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The problem is that when you're using your T-mobile phone on the AT&T network, your data connection is through EDGE, not 3G...and one of the drawbacks to EDGE is that you can't have an active data connection at the same time as an active phone call.
It's a hardware restriction, caused by the different 3G bands AT&T and T-mobile use. Your only real solution would be to get an AT&T-branded phone so you can use their 3G bands, or start using t-mobile's network with your TP2 so you can use their 3G.
sirphunkee said:
The problem is that when you're using your T-mobile phone on the AT&T network, your data connection is through EDGE, not 3G...and one of the drawbacks to EDGE is that you can't have an active data connection at the same time as an active phone call.
It's a hardware restriction, caused by the different 3G bands AT&T and T-mobile use. Your only real solution would be to get an AT&T-branded phone so you can use their 3G bands, or start using t-mobile's network with your TP2 so you can use their 3G.
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Agreed that you can't do both at the same time, but it sounds like the phone should still automatically suspend the data session to take the phone call. Sounds like an application is forcing the data connection to stay active, what programs do you have installed?
Toleraen said:
Agreed that you can't do both at the same time, but it sounds like the phone should still automatically suspend the data session to take the phone call. Sounds like an application is forcing the data connection to stay active, what programs do you have installed?
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I think it would be nice if it worked that way....but that's not how it's been for me. Maybe there's a registry setting that makes it one way or the other, but on the custom roms I've used it doesn't work the "nice" way. Calls go to voice mail if I'm actively accessing/transferring data (on an EDGE connection).
Are you saying that your TP2 actually does suspend the data session -- from personal experience? Or just that it should be that way?
MCbrian said:
I think it would be nice if it worked that way....but that's not how it's been for me. Maybe there's a registry setting that makes it one way or the other, but on the custom roms I've used it doesn't work the "nice" way. Calls go to voice mail if I'm actively accessing/transferring data (on an EDGE connection).
Are you saying that your TP2 actually does suspend the data session -- from personal experience? Or just that it should be that way?
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I can't say for sure on my TP2 as I've generally got 3G coverage everywhere I go. When I was using my 8525 I specifically remember being impressed the first time I was in the middle of a download and it recovered after taking a phone call, was definitely a custom ROM too. Probably was WinMo 6.0 at that time though.
When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.
Sik96teG said:
When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.
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It may depend on other factors then -- like maybe what rom you're running. After I posted above I tested this again -- to confirm what I posted, by starting the download of a very large file. I then called my phone from a landline and sure-enough the call went to VM after a few rings. So, maybe just a characteristic of my ROM, but it's definitely true for me on T-Mo USA (on EDGE). When I stopped the download my phone received calls just fine, so it's not a general receiving-calls issue.
Tomorrow when I'm at work -- and have a full-strength 3G connection -- I'll try it again to confirm that it does receive during 3G data. I've done that test before -- I've received calls with my laptop tethered to the TP2 on 3G and kept the data connection and received the call, but I haven't tried with the rom I'm currently running.
Sik96teG said:
When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.
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I experienced the same thing with my EDGE-only Wizard (8125) on AT&T...incoming calls would be routed straight to voicemail if I had an active data connection going. And, whenever I would try to make an outgoing call, I would get an error message telling me that I couldn't make the call until I closed the data connection.
We all agree that EDGE can't multi-task like that, so to speak...but I think the issue of prioritizing or not prioritizing voice over data is handled at the device level, and/or by carrier control, rather than as a function of what the network can/can't do. My guess at this point is that there might be a reg setting that controls giving calls default priority at all times, but I have no idea what/where it is
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but I think the issue of prioritizing or not prioritizing voice over data is handled at the device level, and/or by carrier control, rather than as a function of what the network can/can't do. My guess at this point is that there might be a reg setting that controls giving calls default priority at all times, but I have no idea what/where it is
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking....well, guessing really -- I don't know. But I know what my experiment showed. A registry setting could explain why it would work for some and not others. Or could a different radio-rom possibly make a difference?
I have no idea.
MCbrian said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking....well, guessing really -- I don't know. But I know what my experiment showed. A registry setting could explain why it would work for some and not others. Or could a different radio-rom possibly make a difference?
I have no idea.
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Now that you mention it, my money is on the radio (don't know why I didn't think of that).
blueguy, what radio are you using? And for that matter, what ROM? ATT, Tmo, or...? I'll test it on mine just like MCbrian did, since I have a different radio (.14), once I recall how to force my toy into EDGE-only mode. so, tomorrow morning
EDIT: sik96teg, same question to you...what radio/ROM are you using?
right now im on 4.49.25.57(i believe this is the stock tmo 6.5) radio and i have tried a few other radios over the last few monthes(never really tested them but dont recall this issue). i use to be on an energy rom and now im on leo cell evo rom. Also when i did have this issue a long time ago i called tmobile and they stated at the time it was a known issue and it was suppose to be resolved in a few days and a few days later it started to work. I also made about 10 calls and only one of them didnt come thru to the phone. My home phone rang for about 30 secs then went to vm but no indicator on the device but that only occured 1 out of 10 tries.
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Tomorrow when I'm at work -- and have a full-strength 3G connection -- I'll try it again to confirm that it does receive during 3G data. I've done that test before -- I've received calls with my laptop tethered to the TP2 on 3G and kept the data connection and received the call, but I haven't tried with the rom I'm currently running.
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Just confirming what I thought: On a 3G data connection, data-transfer continues and the voice call is received simultaneously, as it should.
Thanks for your inputs and my answers
I'm using Tmobile ROM which upgraded me from WinMo 6.1 to WinMo 6.5. I'm not sure what was the radio on it. But I flashed it with Hard-SPL and then with 4.49.25.88 Radio.
Even then the issue still persists
I read somewhere it happens due to NOM1 and NOM2 kind of EDGE network. NOM1 has capabilities to suspend data connection and give preference to phone call, NOM2 doesnt support this behavior. It seems AT&T is using NOM2 in my area. I'm not sure though if this is causing the issue that I'm experiencing.
I called AT&T Technical Support and they said they see my phone as Unkown device and can' support it.
Please this is really annoying, any help is appreciated.
Same here, I am currently with the new official (ok better leaked) ROM and the Radio that was provided (the latest).
The point is that when I am on 3G i can receive both data and calls which is obvious. Now after reading this thread I noticed that when I am on standard GSM and someone calls me, they get notified that my phone is switched off.
What is weird is the fact that there should have been an option to state Call over Data or the opposite for that matter. I think my old Nokia N95 had a similar option.
So, yeah, is that a bug or a feature?
i'm just guessing...but, I believe the simultaneous data/call is a function of 3G .....EDGE is the bare-bones basic thing....
at least that's how they make it sound in the commercials
....i should have read the replies in the thread...
stormrain said:
when I am on standard GSM and someone calls me, they get notified that my phone is switched off.
What is weird is the fact that there should have been an option to state Call over Data or the opposite for that matter. I think my old Nokia N95 had a similar option.
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When I tested this (on EDGE) by calling my TP2 from landline it went to voicemail. Another time I was on EDGE and someone tried to call me and they had your experience: "Out of area/unreachable". And this was within 24 hours, on the same rom without changing any setting (at least, not on purpose).
I've never seen an option to set data/voice priority.
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I flashed Energy ROM with .88 radio, it did improve download speed. But still don't receive calls while using data.
Is there any other ROM which allows this?
The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.
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The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.
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I believe it IS capable, if you are on 3G data. Not if you are EDGE / GPRS.
ronh said:
The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.
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stevedebi said:
I believe it IS capable, if you are on 3G data. Not if you are EDGE / GPRS.
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Yes -- it absolutely is, as stevedebi states, on 3G. So the limitation on EDGE isn't the phone, really, it's the nature of EDGE/GPRS.
Just started using my Desire last night! Feeling good.
However...
Was just on a call, tried to use the Android Marketplace. Couldn't.
Got curious, and tried to use Google Maps mid call. Couldn't.
Tried to use the internet during the call. Couldn't.
Now, I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and have just come from a Nokia E71. With my E71 I could make a call and use Google Maps.
Am I missing something or is this bit of multitasking somehow not possible???
Please tell me I'm missing something!
Cleargrey said:
Just started using my Desire last night! Feeling good.
However...
Was just on a call, tried to use the Android Marketplace. Couldn't.
Got curious, and tried to use Google Maps mid call. Couldn't.
Tried to use the internet during the call. Couldn't.
Now, I'm on T-Mobile (UK) and have just come from a Nokia E71. With my E71 I could make a call and use Google Maps.
Am I missing something or is this bit of multitasking somehow not possible???
Please tell me I'm missing something!
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A lot of carriers don't currently support simultaneous data and voice. For example, I have Sprint and it has no support for this - very annoying.
AT&T is the only one I'm personally aware that supports both talking and using data at the same time.
If it doesn't work for you, you're out of luck with your carrier.
Archon810 said:
A lot of carriers don't currently support simultaneous data and voice. For example, I have Sprint and it has no support for this - very annoying.
AT&T is the only one I'm personally aware that supports both talking and using data at the same time.
If it doesn't work for you, you're out of luck with your carrier.
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Sprint is a CDMA network, and most CDMA networks don't currently support simultaneous voice and data.
Most GSM networks do support this when you have a 3G connection. The voice call is routed over 2G and the data over 3G. If your data connection drops down to GPRS or EDGE, you will lose data connectivity because most networks do not support simultaneous voice and data over 2G, though I'm told that they can be set up to do so, so I guess it's more down to bandwidth.
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I know that Sprint's CDMA has an issue with simultaneous data and voice. Which suck. And I know they are making good attempts to sort this out for the EVO, which is good.
But again, I've been doing this fine on my E71. The only thing I can think of, in relation to Dave's comments, is that for some reason, because the Desire can suck up more data, T-mobile have restricted it. Which would suprise me because, as Dave said, simultaneous voice and data is a feature of most GSM networks and has been for a while.
I have just tested that and it's true - the phone doesn't have simultaneous data and voice connection
Now normally I don't need that because if I talk, I talk and not browse the web, but even my freaking G1 could do both things at the same time. What the heck? It must be something HTC did.
One more reason to eagerly wait for root...
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
ephumuris said:
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
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It's a big deal because:
1. HTC (or T-Mobile) has obviously done something to disable it because Android with GSM should have such functionality;
2. Older Android phones and even some "dumbphones" have that functionality
3. No point in browsing market while talking, but what about looking up maps while talking? - That was even one of G1's selling points.
I have often been on a call and used the internet or searched Maps. So it's something that I am quite used to doing.
Though I thought I'd get an answer straight from the horses mouth and have emailed HTC support just now. I'm hoping they give me good news...
False alarm. This only happens on GPRS, which is normal. Simultaneous data and voice connection can only happen on 3G as explained in Android Forums.
and of course correctly explained by Dave in post #3 here.
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and of course correctly explained by Dave in post #3 here.
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Missed that. Sorry
ephumuris said:
I don't see how this is a big deal. Why would you need to make a call AND browse the market place or look at maps etc? Surely it's something that can be done after the call even if it is receiving directions or whatever.
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Kind of tired of explaining this one but here are the 2 use cases:
- you're talking with someone on the phone and they ask you for directions, look something up on the internet, see if you received their email, etc, etc
- and even more importantly, when my rooted phone acts as a WiFi access point with android-wifi-tether and someone calls me, my freaking Inet disappears until I'm off the phone. This is the more annoying of the 2 use cases.
Well, this was their reply:
"If you start the call being connected through 2G, then yes the internet will then work. But as soon as the signal goes over to 3G then the internet connection and usuage will be turned off.
When it comes to wifi, if you are in a call and you are connected to wifi, then you should be able to surf.
Hope this answers your questions.
Thank you for contacting HTC. "
I did get concerned for a second. I've just tried the wifi and call which worked. And I just tried a call again, with wifi turned off and it worked, even though it didn't work before.
I just hope it routes voice and data in a way that doesn't trip me up in the future. I.e. voice over 2G if I'm trying to access data.
So yes, false alarm.
And funnily enough I just now got a call from Carphonewarehouse asking me if I'm having a problem sending texts as some Desires do indeed have a software fault where they have no Service Centre number for messages. For once, I've skipped the faulty units!
Cheers guys. Sorry scare anyone.
lol.
Whoever it was at HTC got their 2G and 3G mixed up.
what they meant to say was if it goes down to 2G then it'll stop.
You'll be ok in general, as long as you have 3G signal wherever you are. If you've only got 2G, you'll have to hang up, find out and then call back!
the SMSC shouldn't be a problem though, just program it in manually. Not worth sending a phone back for unless it fails then as well.
Even if I'm on 3G/HSPA, when I call someone, as soon as the call is connected, my data connection disappears (only shows bars, no G, 3G, or H) and I can't browse the web or use maps while in-call :-/
ok, well that's not right. The bars should only disappear if you turn the mobile data off. it should not get turned off by a call. Even if i try it when in G, the bars stay showing, just no data comes till i hang up the call.
If the bars are disappearing, something else is going on.
It could be a local network issue. maybe it's an old transmitter that missed an update or something...?could possibly be a full tower.
I know that a few years ago, the towers would kick off data connections to allow more airtime for voice calls which have priority, but i don't know if that's still relevant on 3G.
This was a hot discussion back when the Hero came out as well.
In the end I think it comes down to the network of your carrier. Some people report they can internet and call at the same time. Others say when they are internetting on their phone, a call is directly forwarded to their voicemail etc.
I'm afraid it's a combination between how your carrier configures their network and on what connection you are on (3g, 2g etc).
Yeah it's false alarm no #2 -- must be a spotty 3G at my house. I went to the city centre and tried it there -- worked like a charm.
Though it's a bit weird as 3G speed is not bad at all at my house, but when I call, data connection goes off :-/
Maybe at the city center you got more cells in range than in your house. Means your carrier got more available bandwith
I think reception gets spotty. Sometimes voice and data works, sometimes it doesn't. At home in my bedroom I can get H connection, 20 meters away I can't.
I think the important thing is that the phone is capable. The rest is just pinning down exactly the situation that we want to avoid.
So everytime I call someone or receive a call,
the 3g on the status bar disappears instantly.
right after I end the call,
I have signal again immediately.
is this suppose to happen to Verizon phones?
I'm confused because I came from at&t. never had such thing on it.
So is Verizon suppose to be like this?
if so is there any mod/tweak that enables me to use data while calling?
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bluemoon1221 said:
So everytime I call someone or receive a call,
the 3g on the status bar disappears instantly.
right after I end the call,
I have signal again immediately.
is this suppose to happen to Verizon phones?
I'm confused because I came from at&t. never had such thing on it.
So is Verizon suppose to be like this?
if so is there any mod/tweak that enables me to use data while calling?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
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Yes, this is supposed to happen. You can't do voice + data over 3g, but you can do voice + data over 4g. There is no "mod" available for that will enable the use of data while in a call on 3g.
Verizon is CDMA, which doesn't offer simultaneous voice/data like GSM does. Unless your phone has SVDO (like the Thunderbolt) it won't do data and talk at the same time over 3G... The VZW GNex doesn't have SVDO.
For the longest time this has been a pain for CDMA carriers (the few that are left) and they're gonna get past it with VoLTE eventually. You'll still see AT&T run ads comparing their iPhone to the VZW iPhone because it can do voice+data at the same time.
If you're on LTE, you can browse LTE data and talk on 3G at the same time, however.
maguro user here. i was talking about this with a work colleague yesterday, and i said data didn't work at the same time as voice, only with gprs/edge. he had me call his cellphone, while on UMTS/3g/H, and data call was still on as i made the call, and let the phone ring a few times.
Is anyone experiencing a long delay when dialing out? I am on stock rooted ROM. One of my buddies is having the same issue also. The delay is about 5-10 seconds. I don't have this issue when I use the same SIM card with my old iPhone.
I live in Michigan
memee4eva said:
Is anyone experiencing a long delay when dialing out? I am on stock rooted ROM. One of my buddies is having the same issue also. The delay is about 5-10 seconds. I don't have this issue when I use the same SIM card with my old iPhone.
I live in Michigan
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I have this with my Note II, and so did my Note I and my Streak.
I have seen this on a few of my friends devices. Test this for me
Make a phone call and watch your data icon. It will go from 4g LTE to 4g then disappear the the call will go through.
Then call your phone and watch as the data icon goes from 4g to nothing then ring.
It seems to b a problem with a few select phones. Not sure if its a software or hardware issue. But I have reported the issue to at&t and samsung . Due to the fact that I have seen it on 4 phones
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BIGfin86 said:
I have seen this on a few of my friends devices. Test this for me
Make a phone call and watch your data icon. It will go from 4g LTE to 4g then disappear the the call will go through.
Then call your phone and watch as the data icon goes from 4g to nothing then ring.
It seems to b a problem with a few select phones. Not sure if its a software or hardware issue. But I have reported the issue to at&t and samsung . Due to the fact that I have seen it on 4 phones
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This is exactly what I have noticed!!!! I am also not sure if it's a software or hardware issue.
Seems normal to me. Voice over LTE is not (yet) enabled/available/supported. For voice, the radio has to switch from LTE to UMTS, and then establish a connection to the new network.
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Seems normal to me. Voice over LTE is not (yet) enabled/available/supported. For voice, the radio has to switch from LTE to UMTS, and then establish a connection to the new network.
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The issue is a total loss of data. So no talk and surf
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Just a quick check - is data set to be LTE-only? You generally can't have simultaneous voice and LTE data.
You could try turning off LTE data and forcing WCDMA/GSM data. That might help.
Also, the signal has to be very strong for simultaneous voice and data. When there is low signal strength, the carrier may have elected to suppress data in favour of voice.
You could also experiment with other baseband firmware. That has made a difference on some of my other phones. The configuration of the carrier's towers plays a big role. However, in my limited experience, signal strength has been the key factor.
Good luck!
I have had two phones with the stock builds and base bands next to each other with all the same settings and one works fine the other doesn't.
The weird thing on top of it is that 50% of the time when making outgoing calls it fails. And when people call they receive the message that the line is no longer in service
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Stab in the dark: That sounds like a loose antenna connection - if it happens to the same phone all the time (that was the cause of a similar issue on my old Moto Milestone); or a carrier issue - if it happens on the same tower. (Just because two phones are side by side doesn't mean that they are connected to the same tower.)
The code for radio info is *#0011# http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802028 (I know we're not talking about fast dormancy - well, we are talking about radio state switching for the OP - but that thread and Erica's two XDA videos on fast dormancy have lots of good info on radios and data.)
I'm all out of ideas now ...
With the fact Verizon purposely drops your coverage from 3/4G to 1x while making a phone call? I've seen in the General G4 forum the "fix" for this is to setup advanced calling (which costs money). Anyone know if there's another fix? Possibly something to edit in build.prop (very highly doubt that)? Perhaps I'll have to wait for custom ROMs to come out in the future and have them enable this along with the Mobile Hotspot.
Advanced Calling does not cost any more money than voice calls, it's a $0.00/mo feature add on that you need to add to your Verizon account. Advanced calling is only a fancy name for VoLTE.
The reason it drops the call is because all Verizon phones this year don't have dual-radios to call and use data at the same time, this is a hardware limitation. With Advanced Calling, you can use voice and data at the same time while on LTE.
Check my thread on enabling the mobile hotspot once you have root.
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With the fact Verizon purposely drops your coverage from 3/4G to 1x while making a phone call? I've seen in the General G4 forum the "fix" for this is to setup advanced calling (which costs money). Anyone know if there's another fix? Possibly something to edit in build.prop (very highly doubt that)? Perhaps I'll have to wait for custom ROMs to come out in the future and have them enable this along with the Mobile Hotspot.
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Hmm I know there was a fix for this on Sammy phones. LTE coverage would drop completely on calls on ports. The fix was editing a line in the build.prop like you mentioned believe it or not lol :silly:. I am new to LG so I would have to take a look and see if the same line exsist (i'm guessing it does but it's prob already set to what it is spouse to be)
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Advanced Calling does not cost any more money than voice calls, it's a $0.00/mo feature add on that you need to add to your Verizon account. Advanced calling is only a fancy name for VoLTE.
The reason it drops the call is because all Verizon phones this year don't have dual-radios to call and use data at the same time, this is a hardware limitation. With Advanced Calling, you can use voice and data at the same time while on LTE.
Check my thread on enabling the mobile hotspot once you have root.
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Ahhh thanks! I never bothered to continue with the "purchase" to see it wasn't actually something that costs money.
This still annoys me though lol lowering call quality.
geoff5093 said:
Advanced Calling does not cost any more money than voice calls, it's a $0.00/mo feature add on that you need to add to your Verizon account. Advanced calling is only a fancy name for VoLTE.
The reason it drops the call is because all Verizon phones this year don't have dual-radios to call and use data at the same time, this is a hardware limitation. With Advanced Calling, you can use voice and data at the same time while on LTE.
Check my thread on enabling the mobile hotspot once you have root.
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Just enabled this, and it's still doing it Maybe I need to wait longer..
Dennisg34 said:
Ahhh thanks! I never bothered to continue with the "purchase" to see it wasn't actually something that costs money.
This still annoys me though lol lowering call quality.
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Advanced calling is much better call quality than without it.
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Just enabled this, and it's still doing it Maybe I need to wait longer..
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It takes a couple hours IIRC. Make sure you enable it on your phone as well and restart your phone afterwards.
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Advanced calling is much better call quality than without it.
It takes a couple hours IIRC. Make sure you enable it on your phone as well and restart your phone afterwards.
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Yeah I did after the 5 minutes it told me to as well as shut it down completely then turn it on. I'll give it several hours, figuring it would take that long.
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Yeah I did after the 5 minutes it told me to as well as shut it down completely then turn it on. I'll give it several hours, figuring it would take that long.
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I just made a call while on LTE with my VS986 and Advanced Calling enabled, and I was able to use LTE data while on the call, so it will work it just may take some time.
Lost my volte also I went online and enabled it but had to end up calling in and having them do a refresh to my phone that fixed it! One thing I found out yesterday was that you can't uninstall the my Verizon app if you want advanced calling it seems to run a check through that. Also found this odd the my Verizon app asked me to grant root permission to it! Of course it got denied
This is the build.prop tweak for enabling/disabling 1x:
Code:
ro.config.svlte1x=false
Not sure it works on our phones, but I'll be giving it a try.
edit: Damn, doesn't work.
lacoursiere18 said:
Hmm I know there was a fix for this on Sammy phones. LTE coverage would drop completely on calls on ports. The fix was editing a line in the build.prop like you mentioned believe it or not lol :silly:. I am new to LG so I would have to take a look and see if the same line exsist (i'm guessing it does but it's prob already set to what it is spouse to be)
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The Galaxy S5 was the last Galaxy to have 2 radios, one for voice, one for data. So if you're referring to an S5 or earlier, the situation would have been different. They physically had the ability to voice & data together, without requiring Advanced Calling/VoLTE.
The G4 (and the Galaxy S6) only have a single radio, so they both require Advanced Calling in order to voice & data at the same time.
For those having trouble with getting Advanced Calling working on Verizon, I went around and around with their tech support for a week. I was running software VS98610B, and could not get it to actually enable. But as a last resort before exchanging the phone (their last suggestion), I upgraded to the current version, 611A, and got it working. So if you're on 610B, and having trouble enabling it, you may need to take the OTA update to 611A.
More info/details on the process I went through to get Advanced Calling working are in my thread over on AC:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g4/557860-trouble-activating-advanced-calling-verizon-610b-software.html
Shaffer678 said:
Lost my volte also I went online and enabled it but had to end up calling in and having them do a refresh to my phone that fixed it! One thing I found out yesterday was that you can't uninstall the my Verizon app if you want advanced calling it seems to run a check through that. Also found this odd the my Verizon app asked me to grant root permission to it! Of course it got denied
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Can anyone else confirm that you need that my Verizon app installed to use advanced calling
kgirlx said:
Can anyone else confirm that you need that my Verizon app installed to use advanced calling
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Yes you do. I ran into that on my G3.
kgirlx said:
Can anyone else confirm that you need that my Verizon app installed to use advanced calling
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You need the Verizon App to be able to get to the settings. Once you activate Advanced Calling, you can disable the Verizon app again.
Yea it really makes me mad that the G4 is doing this. My G2 had Advanced calling turned off and I had 4G while making calls. The Advanced calling caused more problems then it solved. Specifically I only get 1x in the basement at work and my calls were going straight to VM. Also there are tons of reports of lots of Echos and stuttering while using HD Voice.
Your G2 probably had 2 radios, and could therefore do voice + data without needing AC. My Galaxy S3 was like that.
But the G4 and S6 only have 1 radio. So they need AC to do data while also on a call.
RedOCtobyr said:
Your G2 probably had 2 radios, and could therefore do voice + data without needing AC. My Galaxy S3 was like that.
But the G4 and S6 only have 1 radio. So they need AC to do data while also on a call.
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The G2 and G3 could, but around last fall all Verizon phones started coming with just one radio and could only do both with Advanced Calling.
Wow. Allow me to explain something here. Any time you make a phone call on ANY Verizon phone, it's going to use 1X. That's CDMA. Verizon 3G (EV-DO) is data only. Advanced Calling allows phone calls over LTE and is the only way to do simultaneous voice and data in a phone that only has one combined CDMA/LTE radio, which is most Verizon phones.
Think of it this way. If you're in LTE coverage and you have Advanced Calling enabled, your call will go out over LTE. Otherwise, it's going out via CDMA, which the phone will show as 1X. It's no more or less complicated than that.
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Dennisg34 said:
With the fact Verizon purposely drops your coverage from 3/4G to 1x while making a phone call? I've seen in the General G4 forum the "fix" for this is to setup advanced calling (which costs money). Anyone know if there's another fix? Possibly something to edit in build.prop (very highly doubt that)? Perhaps I'll have to wait for custom ROMs to come out in the future and have them enable this along with the Mobile Hotspot.
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LOL, it's called CDMA technology, that's how it works. :fingers-crossed:
Gasaraki- said:
LOL, it's called CDMA technology, that's how it works. :fingers-crossed:
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That's how old CDMA tech works but not today. The 4G radio is a separate radio outside of the standard GSM and CDMA radio. We should be able to make calls while retaining a data connection. This is something Verizon users have been doing for years. We have 3 radios but the software is turning them off during a call. If you pay and enable Advanced Calling features, then you will retain the simultaneous voice and data ability. It just sucks because I was able to do this on the G2 with advanced calling features disabled.
This is clearly Verizon trying to get more money out of you.
Hang on
- As I understand it, the G4 (and other 2015 Verizon phones, at least including the S6) has a single radio.
- Advanced Calling is free, and voice calls do not count towards your data allowance. So I'm not sure why you think Verizon is getting more money from AC.
- The older phones (like my GS3) didn't need AC to do voice + data because they had 2 radios, not 1.
I apologize if my understanding of the # of radios is wrong, but your post is inconsistent with what I've heard on that subject elsewhere.