Hi all,
This is my first post to this forum so please be gentle. I've searched for and answer and I've read the FAQ. In the FAQ, the first question is:-
Q) Can I root my phone?
A- Yes, only if you have S-OFF
Now that HTC have released the Unlock Bootloader for this phone, is it still true that a Wildfire S can't be rooted while S-ON?
My main requirement is to be able to delete the pre-installed apps I don't want.
Thanks
Nicknoxx said:
Hi all,
Now that HTC have released the Unlock Bootloader for this phone, is it still true that a Wildfire S can't be rooted while S-ON?
My main requirement is to be able to delete the pre-installed apps I don't want.
Thanks
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If you have Unlock Bootloader you can root WFS with S-ON
So the FAQ is wrong!
Thanks btw.
s-off was the only way to unlock the bootloader, untill now that htcdev released unlock, which is actually unlocking bootloader, but leaving s-on for the sim lock...
Nicknoxx said:
So the FAQ is wrong! ...
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FAQ isn't wrong, just not updated
Unlock bootloader via HTCDev allows you to root WFS, but it will be still S-ON
What does sunshine do that HTCDev doesn't do? I'm really very confused.
Sunshine S-off's your phone, as well as unlocking the bootloader. HTCdev unlocks your bootloader but leaves security/signing on (S-on) Also, the method Sunshine uses to unlock your bootloader doesn't trip a factory reset.
You don't typically need to turn security/signing off unless you want to change your CID/MID (to convert your handset to a different region) or go back to an older version of firmware/software.
AlecRobertson said:
What does sunshine do that HTCDev doesn't do? I'm really very confused.
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HTC dev only unlocks the boot loader, sunshine or firewater provides full s off which lifts restrictions to partitions that are normally locked down.
Check the below thread for explanations.
Thread updated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744194
Thank link is invalid.
Also, I have got s-off previously without using this?
AlecRobertson said:
Also, I have got s-off previously without using this?
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So in bootloader (or alternately, adb getvar all) it indicates s-off?
If so, and you didn't do firewater or sunshine, then its factory s-off. Its rare, but I've seen it here from time to time.
Hi guys,
I just updated my HTC M8(european) to Lollipop and after updating i hardreset the phone, which caused that all my photos and videos are wiped out. As I understood, undeleting files requires access to root and rooting is not possible without unlocking the bootloader. As I found out, it is only possible to unlock the bootloader by the HTC provided token and my question is:
1) is it possible to re-lock the bootloader as the original?
2) if re-locking requires S-OFF, is there any other option then the 25 USD sunshine?
Thanks in advance!
lomo2002 said:
Hi guys,
I just updated my HTC M8(european) to Lollipop and after updating i hardreset the phone, which caused that all my photos and videos are wiped out. As I understood, undeleting files requires access to root and rooting is not possible without unlocking the bootloader. As I found out, it is only possible to unlock the bootloader by the HTC provided token and my question is:
1) is it possible to re-lock the bootloader as the original?
2) if re-locking requires S-OFF, is there any other option then the 25 USD sunshine?
Thanks in advance!
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1. No without S-OFF
2. Sunshine doesn't work with Lollipop yet
lomo2002 said:
Hi guys,
I just updated my HTC M8(european) to Lollipop and after updating i hardreset the phone, which caused that all my photos and videos are wiped out. As I understood, undeleting files requires access to root and rooting is not possible without unlocking the bootloader. As I found out, it is only possible to unlock the bootloader by the HTC provided token and my question is:
1) is it possible to re-lock the bootloader as the original?
2) if re-locking requires S-OFF, is there any other option then the 25 USD sunshine?
Thanks in advance!
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1. Try "fastboot oem lock" from bootloader
My M8 is also S-ON and I could relock with this method.
You will have "RE-LOCKED" message in bootloader.
I didn't mention that as they said they wanted it locked as it was originally, which can't be done without S-OFF. But yes, you can relock the phone using the above command
I'm not sure what I flashed to cause this issue. I used sunshine months back and acquired s-off and unlocked bootloader. Now when I go to bootloader, it says locked and s-on. I ran sunshine again and it told me I was already s-off, and there was nothing to do. How do I get things back to saying s-off and unlocked?? Is there a tool to flash and toggle?? I was going to use my unlock key from HTC dev, but I don't want to wipe all my data. What is the best solution??
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rwagner74 said:
I'm not sure what I flashed to cause this issue. I used sunshine months back and acquired s-off and unlocked bootloader. Now when I go to bootloader, it says locked and s-on. I ran sunshine again and it told me I was already s-off, and there was nothing to do. How do I get things back to saying s-off and unlocked?? Is there a tool to flash and toggle?? I was going to use my unlock key from HTC dev, but I don't want to wipe all my data. What is the best solution??
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I have no solution for you, and I doubt anyone here will. Post your problem on the Sunshine S-Off thread. You will probably find some help there.
Copy and paste what you posted here in the reply I am quoting. Also state that you started a thread and you are sorry for cross posting, but that is what was advised. Good luck! I hope you get your stuff fixed up right.
maybe you have custom bootloader with faked S-ON and faked LOCKED message?
How do you do the above for warranty claim
I need to send the phone in for replacement / maintenance
it is unlocked US version running Verizon ROM on Verizon network
How do I unroot, lock the bootloader, and s-on?
I know they might not care, I still would like to restore everything to prevent any surprises or rejection
please list the steps. Thank you very much
ahgahg said:
How do you do the above for warranty claim
I need to send the phone in for replacement / maintenance
it is unlocked US version running Verizon ROM on Verizon network
How do I unroot, lock the bootloader, and s-on?
I know they might not care, I still would like to restore everything to prevent any surprises or rejection
please list the steps. Thank you very much
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First thing to do is backup everything from your phone to your PC. Then run a RUU ( I guess that would be US unlocked, not Verizon). After RUU is flashed, go to download mode and issue a command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (without quotes). That will restore your security flag back to s-on. Then use Sunshine to set bootloader status to LOCKED and s-off (really the easiest way to set it to LOCKED, not RELOCKED). Finally, run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" once again, and done. You are 100% stock. It's much faster and simpler than it looks from my description.
donkeykong1 said:
First thing to do is backup everything from your phone to your PC. Then run a RUU ( I guess that would be US unlocked, not Verizon). After RUU is flashed, go to download mode and issue a command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (without quotes). That will restore your security flag back to s-on. Then use Sunshine to set bootloader status to LOCKED and s-off (really the easiest way to set it to LOCKED, not RELOCKED). Finally, run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" once again, and done. You are 100% stock. It's much faster and simpler than it looks from my description.
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Does this remove the red text on the start up screen? One look at that and HTC knows the phone has been altered. On Samsung devices once Knox is tripped you get a message saying so and it's permanent. Just curious.
comstockload said:
Does this remove the red text on the start up screen? One look at that and HTC knows the phone has been altered. On Samsung devices once Knox is tripped you get a message saying so and it's permanent. Just curious.
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Red text will be removed after you flash a RUU. HTC is much simpler than Samsung regarding that. Just to be on the safe side, check bootloader status after each step. It's a quick procedure, but you're safe
S-off should be ok just make sure its locked not unlocked.
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
donkeykong1 said:
First thing to do is backup everything from your phone to your PC. Then run a RUU ( I guess that would be US unlocked, not Verizon). After RUU is flashed, go to download mode and issue a command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (without quotes). That will restore your security flag back to s-on. Then use Sunshine to set bootloader status to LOCKED and s-off (really the easiest way to set it to LOCKED, not RELOCKED). Finally, run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" once again, and done. You are 100% stock. It's much faster and simpler than it looks from my description.
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Did all that (installing the RUU) and received only "re-locked" since it already was S-ON. Sunshine now cannot be used, because the RUU was installed. What did I do wrong, then?
Matt.Murdock said:
Did all that (installing the RUU) and received only "re-locked" since it already was S-ON. Sunshine now cannot be used, because the RUU was installed. What did I do wrong, then?
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You can use Sunshine. But, if I understood correctly, your phine was never s-off. If that's true, you need to unlock your bootloader again, use Sunshine to get s-off, and then follow my steps
donkeykong1 said:
You can use Sunshine. But, if I understood correctly, your phine was never s-off. If that's true, you need to unlock your bootloader again, use Sunshine to get s-off, and then follow my steps
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I see, so the only way to have the phone LOCKED is to root it and use Sunshine?
Matt.Murdock said:
I see, so the only way to have the phone LOCKED is to root it and use Sunshine?
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Tecnicaly, you only need to unlock the bootloader and use Sunshine. No need to root, but, in general, the answer is yes
rooting without s-off
donkeykong1 said:
Tecnicaly, you only need to unlock the bootloader and use Sunshine. No need to root, but, in general, the answer is yes
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how do you even get a verizon htc 10 with oreo installed rooted in the first place if the HTCdev site is unable to unlock your bootloader, Sunshine is unable to unlock your bootloader or S-Off? There is nothing on the internet that has this "Solved" issue that I've read. However after reading your response, are you sure anyone can unlock bootloader and then use sunshine without root?
pearson_1974 said:
how do you even get a verizon htc 10 with oreo installed rooted in the first place if the HTCdev site is unable to unlock your bootloader, Sunshine is unable to unlock your bootloader or S-Off? There is nothing on the internet that has this "Solved" issue that I've read. However after reading your response, are you sure anyone can unlock bootloader and then use sunshine without root?
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If you read the first post, you will see that OP is running an US unlocked with Verizon ROM. In that case my steps are correct. If you have Verizon phone, you can't even unlock bootloader, so this is of no use for you
donkeykong1 said:
First thing to do is backup everything from your phone to your PC. Then run a RUU ( I guess that would be US unlocked, not Verizon). After RUU is flashed, go to download mode and issue a command "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" (without quotes). That will restore your security flag back to s-on. Then use Sunshine to set bootloader status to LOCKED and s-off (really the easiest way to set it to LOCKED, not RELOCKED). Finally, run "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" once again, and done. You are 100% stock. It's much faster and simpler than it looks from my description.
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Hi. Sunshine .Pay once Or pay every time you use.
osakajung said:
Hi. Sunshine .Pay once Or pay every time you use.
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Once
pearson_1974 said:
how do you even get a verizon htc 10 with oreo installed rooted in the first place if the HTCdev site is unable to unlock your bootloader, Sunshine is unable to unlock your bootloader or S-Off? There is nothing on the internet that has this "Solved" issue that I've read. However after reading your response, are you sure anyone can unlock bootloader and then use sunshine without root?
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Only way is to mail your phone to the sunshine team
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Once
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I pay on the first to s-off/unlock bootloader.
I flash other rom.
I set "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" to s-on.
I download Sunshine to set s-off/Lock bootloader is not pay?
osakajung said:
I pay on the first to s-off/unlock bootloader.
I flash other rom.
I set "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3" to s-on.
I download Sunshine to set s-off/Lock bootloader is not pay?
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No. Once you pay for Sunshine, it's free for you to use as many times sa you need, as long as you don't change your motherboard
donkeykong1 said:
No. Once you pay for Sunshine, it's free for you to use as many times sa you need, as long as you don't change your motherboard
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Thank you