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Where to buy GSM Version from in USA?

I'm looking to purchase the Galaxy Nexus GSM, and I am located in the USA. A few different places have it for ~$450, and I am trying to find the best place to purchase it from.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-I9250...F01A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335213120&sr=8-1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176322
For anyone else that purchased it in the USA, what do you recommend? I have read of issues with fake ESNs, and I thought I read that there were different versions of the actual device (Japanese version, etc). Any major things to watch out for? Where did you purchase from, and did you have any issues?
Update - Responses from Amazon Sellers:
Global Mobiles:
the Samsung I9250 Nexus comes with a return policy of 30 days and 2 years manufacturers warranty in Europe. You can claim the warranty by yourself at Samsung Europe or ship the phone in case of a warranty to our office in Germany, where our technicians will handle the claim for you and send the phone back in the US after the repair.
And its EU stock. The warranty is valid in all EU countries, not limited to one.
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abe-123:
This is not the Japanese version. Warranty is available, you can return to Samsung directly to get warranty service.
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Got mine from Amazon with next day shipping. I have prime so it was only 4 bucks for next day.
I'd say Amazon is safe as long as you get the one fulfilled by amazon. If anything goes wrong with the phone when you first get it you'll atleast have amazons great customer support and be able to return it.
My first gnex was from daily steals and the phone had a defect within first 24 hours. It took nearly a month to resort things and get my money back although they refunded my money in its entirety I'm pretty positive amazon would've been a lot easier.
Other places with positive reviews are negri and expansys. People say these places offer some sort of warranty which you'd normally wouldn't get with a gray market phone. They essentially act as a middleman for you and samsung. You send the phone to them and they send the phone to country of origin (typically samsung UK) for warranty repair. A bit longer of a fix but pretty good for ease of mind.
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I got mine from Expansys-USA... last I saw a couple days ago it was $469. It's official yakju build as well. Worked out especially well for me as it shipped from the same state (Illinois) so I got it in like 48 hours from ordering.

pwiiiiiiiiiich said:
I got mine from Expansys-USA... last I saw a couple days ago it was $469. It's official yakju build as well. Worked out especially well for me as it shipped from the same state (Illinois) so I got it in like 48 hours from ordering.
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How do I tell which version my phone is after I get it, and what is the difference between the different versions?

Amazon for sure.. Next day shipping.. got it in the morning.. had to pay $26 for it tho -_-

Got mine from Negri Electronics. Been great.

xur17 said:
How do I tell which version my phone is after I get it, and what is the difference between the different versions?
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go to the Play Store and download GN Official update checker
The only difference is "One" is updated directly from Google while the other is updated by samsung.. correct me if im wrong

YoungAceAtlanta said:
go to the Play Store and download GN Official update checker
The only difference is "One" is updated directly from Google while the other is updated by samsung.. correct me if im wrong
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But isn't there a way to change the build of the device anyways? So the only difference is software based, not hardware based? I know the Nexus S had a LCD version, and an AMOLED version - I don't need to worry about that here, do I?
I sent a message to a few Amazon sellers, asking them what the warranty situation is, and what version theirs are (what country they import from). I'll try to report back when I hear back from them.

xur17 said:
But isn't there a way to change the build of the device anyways? So the only difference is software based, not hardware based? I know the Nexus S had a LCD version, and an AMOLED version - I don't need to worry about that here, do I?
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Yes the only difference is software, and you can change any i9250 or SC-04D to "yakju" and get Google OTA updates. It takes all of about 15min to do.
I sent a message to a few Amazon sellers, asking them what the warranty situation is, and what version theirs are (what country they import from). I'll try to report back when I hear back from them.
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I wouldn't expect much as far as warranties go with an Amazon seller. If you want a warranty I'd go with a reputable non-Amazon seller like Expansys or Negri (and even then its shady at best and you're trusting that they can take your phone and forward it to Samsung Europe). You're going to spend a bit more for it though so I'm not sure if its worth it for you.

I got the $450 Newegg phone. It turned out to be a Docomo SC-04D, made in Korea, 12/2011. I have had zero problems with it. I immediately flashed yajku IMM76D and went on my way. No problems with the IMEI, it matches the one printed on the box. If the NTT battery cover bugs you, there are stock battery doors available from any number of sources.

Expansys dropped the price down to $469.99. Good deal, especially with all the warranty and repair service they assist with.

Just bought one of Amazon for 452 seller was blue tek, I'll let you know how it goes should be here Wednesday
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BrianDigital said:
Just bought one of Amazon for 452 seller was blue tek, I'll let you know how it goes should be here Wednesday
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That would be greatly appreciated - I'm kind of stalling at this point as I have a busy week of school to get through, and don't need a new toy to play with. I'm leaning towards Amazon as I have a bunch of gift cards that I need to spend.

martonikaj said:
Yes the only difference is software, and you can change any i9250 or SC-04D to "yakju" and get Google OTA updates. It takes all of about 15min to do.
I wouldn't expect much as far as warranties go with an Amazon seller. If you want a warranty I'd go with a reputable non-Amazon seller like Expansys or Negri (and even then its shady at best and you're trusting that they can take your phone and forward it to Samsung Europe). You're going to spend a bit more for it though so I'm not sure if its worth it for you.
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Correct no warranty but an order fulfilled by amazon should give you a window of being able to return a defective phone. In my case I believe it was 7 days.
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lazaro17 said:
Correct no warranty but an order fulfilled by amazon should give you a window of being able to return a defective phone. In my case I believe it was 7 days.
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You have a lot of faith in your phone. My Nexus S screen went bad 6 months into owning it. If it wasn't for the warranty it would have been an expensive repair.
Also keep in mind that with a voided warranty (buying anywhere but Nergri or Expansys) Samsung will not fix your phone even if you pay them, because it is grey market. A few unfortunate people on XDA learned that the hard way.
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lazaro17 said:
Got mine from Amazon with next day shipping. I have prime so it was only 4 bucks for next day.
I'd say Amazon is safe as long as you get the one fulfilled by amazon. If anything goes wrong with the phone when you first get it you'll atleast have amazons great customer support and be able to return it.
My first gnex was from daily steals and the phone had a defect within first 24 hours. It took nearly a month to resort things and get my money back although they refunded my money in its entirety I'm pretty positive amazon would've been a lot easier.
Other places with positive reviews are negri and expansys. People say these places offer some sort of warranty which you'd normally wouldn't get with a gray market phone. They essentially act as a middleman for you and samsung. You send the phone to them and they send the phone to country of origin (typically samsung UK) for warranty repair. A bit longer of a fix but pretty good for ease of mind.
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Which problem did you face?
I got mine on Thursday from amazon for 430 $ but I didn't realize it was from saxx mobile, now I'm super scared its a refurbished phone, 20 $ didnt sound like a huge difference so i didnt suspect at the time, I should have been smarter and should have not trusted that too good to be true price phone hasn't arrived yet
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Haha. Not too much faith but enough faith. My first phone I acquired through Craigslist but had a small scratch on screen and banding that was driving my ocd insane. My second through daily steals samsung did actually offer warranty fix but I had to ship to country of origin which was in Poland. Luckily I had people I knew in Poland who id be able to ship to. But alas daily steals offered me a full refund since it was prior to 30 days. I figured after two faulty phones I was due for an alright one.
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Chad_Petree said:
Which problem did you face?
I got mine on Thursday from amazon for 430 $ but I didn't realize it was from saxx mobile, now I'm super scared its a refurbished phone, I should have been smarter and should have not trusted that too good to be true price phone hasn't arrived yet
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You should be covered by the Amazon A-to-Z guarantee if it is refurbished or anything. If you have any problems, I recommend talking to Amazon customer service. They tend to be pretty good about stuff like this.
Would the warranty start working in the US if Samsung starts selling the gsm Galaxy Nexus here, or do they somehow know that it was imported and not allow people to send it in for warranty repairs?

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Haha. Not too much faith but enough faith. My first phone I acquired through Craigslist but had a small scratch on screen and banding that was driving my ocd insane. My second through daily steals samsung did actually offer warranty fix but I had to ship to country of origin which was in Poland. Luckily I had people I knew in Poland who id be able to ship to. But alas daily steals offered me a full refund since it was prior to 30 days. I figured after two faulty phones I was due for an alright one.
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Did you have to give the phone back? The phone will be shipped to my country so its almost impossible for me to return it
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I would get it from the Amazon link and make sure the one you buy is the one that is fulfilled by Amazon.
I purchased one from ebay and ended up getting the NTT Docomo version with a horrible screen with all kinds of banding.
I then purchased one from Amazon (same link) and got a regular (UK?) version, with a much better screen.
I will be returning the ebay one.
Both arrived with the Samsung seals broken (probably because they had to be unlocked)? But they were pretty much brand new in condition.
Good luck!

Buying nexus 7 from amazon

I'm currently in saudi arabia and I'm thinking of buying the new nexus 7 from amazon as it is available for international shipping..
It is avaiable through stores here but for an unreasonable price ($480 for the LTE version!)
I've been reading through the forums and found that many of the units had defects/issues and mainly those screen issues (dead pixels, ghost touches, dust under screen) so I'm worried about buying it since it will also be my first time to order something online.
Should I order it ? What should I do if it turned out to be defective ?

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I'm currently in saudi arabia and I'm thinking of buying the new nexus 7 from amazon as it is available for international shipping..
It is avaiable through stores here but for an unreasonable price ($480 for the LTE version!)
I've been reading through the forums and found that many of the units had defects/issues and mainly those screen issues (dead pixels, ghost touches, dust under screen) so I'm worried about buying it since it will also be my first time to order something online.
Should I order it ? What should I do if it turned out to be defective ?
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Amazon has a great return policy. If you notice something wrong with it in the first 30 days Amazon will swap it for a different one. I would assume most issues that you have would arise in the first month of owning the tablet.

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Amazon has a great return policy. If you notice something wrong with it in the first 30 days Amazon will swap it for a different one. I would assume most issues that you have would arise in the first month of owning the tablet.
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This exactly. I'm an avid Amazon buyer because of this. I say go for it! :good:

yugendreams said:
Amazon has a great return policy. If you notice something wrong with it in the first 30 days Amazon will swap it for a different one. I would assume most issues that you have would arise in the first month of owning the tablet.
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Agreed. I ordered mine from amazon and have had no problems whatsoever
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Also ordered mine in the US on launch day via Amazon (no Int shipping) and used my US address to forward to Thailand. No problems till now.
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Your feedbacks encouraged to do it.. I'll probably place my order in a day or two.

Dot View Case Availability

I can't seem to find the Dot view case in stock anywhere. Have they released? If not, do we know when they will? I can't find anything but reviews on google either.

ryno9100 said:
I can't seem to find the Dot view case in stock anywhere. Have they released? If not, do we know when they will? I can't find anything but reviews on google either.
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Verizon had them on there website for sale a couple days ago for $37, wasnt going to order, not i kinda want it, they are sold out from what it looks like
Shopandroid.com will have them, you can pre order them now
HTC Only has the black availably
https://shop.us.htc.com/category/accessories?brandsSel[]=HTC&categoriesSel[]=Cases%2C+Covers+%26+Bags&sort=priceDescending

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Verizon had them on there website for sale a couple days ago for $37, wasnt going to order, not i kinda want it, they are sold out from what it looks like
Shopandroid.com will have them, you can pre order them now
HTC Only has the black availably
https://shop.us.htc.com/category/accessories?brandsSel[]=HTC&categoriesSel[]=Cases%2C+Covers+%26+Bags&sort=priceDescending
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Just ordered my black one from HTC. That was the only color I wanted. Lol. Thanks a lot man! I had been checking the website, just hadn't done it since this morning. Must have been updated.

I ordered mine (black, which is more grey) off of the HTC websites and it shipped from a site called Xentris Wireless. Maybe you could check Xentris to see if they're available directly.

I just ordered mine from the HTC website and got a confirmation from Best Buy that it was shipping.

Got an ATT M8 but ATT didn't have the dot case. Went to Verizon and I bought the grey one in stores. (This was last week)
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A HTC rep in my teleco shop (Starhub) says that the case will be available from 1 week after launch in Singapore.
(Just got my phone on launch day, above information is only 15 minutes old )

They seem very rare, got chatting to a retailer on Elevate so she told me exactly when she was getting stock so I ordered 2 (one for a friend, totally not being selfish )

Apparently I ordered too late. I'm now on backorder on the HTC website. I've checked eBay, Amazon, Newegg, and all of google's recommended sites. I've checked every best buy and Verizon around, and their websites. Any other ideas?

Dot View Case
I had to Pre-order mine from Android Central. They then got a few but not enough to fill all the Pre-Orders and is now out of stock. Hope to get mine soon.

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I had to Pre-order mine from Android Central. They then got a few but not enough to fill all the Pre-Orders and is now out of stock. Hope to get mine soon.
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Looking for one too. Seems HTC built more than enough phones, but not enough cases!
Checked all my local Verizon/BB.

UK Release Date

Anyone got any info on that?

Kahun said:
Anyone got any info on that?
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Wouldn't mind knowing myself, took a punt on the LG Watch R at the weekend, which is nice but would prefer the Zen. I have it preordered at Expansys at the moment, got in while they were taking orders rather than just the register interest page they have up now.

I had some interest in LG G Watch R because of the circular display but I think the watch is a bit too chunky. Will have a look at expansys

Kahun said:
I had some interest in LG G Watch R because of the circular display but I think the watch is a bit too chunky. Will have a look at expansys
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I'm currently using the LG Watch R and had the same thoughts as you, but it's not as bad as I imagined it would be. However I still have my preorder with Expansys and will decide on which one I want to keep once it arrives. Hopefully soon!

Hi all,
I pre ordered mine here: http://www.expansys.fr/asus-zenwatch-eu-265396/
Please note I'm from France.

Anyone got any news with UK release? Hopefully comes before Christmas so I can get myself a Christmas present

Noticed this morning that Simply Electronics list this on their site for £184.95. Also that they've got 5 in stock and make no mention of it being imported. Considering a UK launch date or price hasn't been announced (that I know of) I'd be very sceptical.
UPDATE: A glance at some Google Shopping reviews suggests they might not be on the level.

they are based in HK and have some very dodgy reviews - actually rang them this morning asking whether it is uk stock and this wasn't clearly answered. I then asked about customs duty and they just said its an all inclusive price - bollox. Expect duty and RM charges on top....
I actually remember I nearly bought a camera off this lot a couple of years back but they aren't exactly truthful about location of item or taxes etc - means you'll pay customs and it'll be regarded as a grey import without warranty.
I think its sad that ASUS are dragging their feet on this. I've looked at big daddy in the US but again with their $40 fee and customs, its getting expensive!
Need an american friend to buy and send as a gift!

Anyone heard anything more on the UK release?

Avoid Simply B'S they are HK based
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I decided to try se after I discussed at length where the watch was coming from (uk or abroad) , the warranty, etc. I was told it's coming from the UK. Has a UK se warranty. Ordered last week and the amount of bull I've been fed since is unreal. Been told due to amount of orders they should be able to post it by mid December! Even though they originally said 10 days..... I queried why it should even take 10 days?! They are full of sh.....
If and when it arrives, if it's not a UK warranty, I will charge it back through my credit card as I will have been mis sold the item according to trading standards. Mmm I will then follow up with trading standards and ensure they are put out of business based on their mis-sellibg practices... At least in the uk/as a UK seller.
Anyway, still no UK date grrr

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Noticed this morning that Simply Electronics list this on their site for £184.95. Also that they've got 5 in stock and make no mention of it being imported. Considering a UK launch date or price hasn't been announced (that I know of) I'd be very sceptical.
UPDATE: A glance at some Google Shopping reviews suggests they might not be on the level.
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Don't order from Simply Electronics. The product they have is not certified anywhere and is dodgy. They quote low prices to draw people in and you very stung after. I got taken in by the cheap price if a macbook air but it wasn't European certified or certified by America FFC. They're customer services is rubbish and they don't reply and when they do they try to get you to keep the product at a reduced cost. I had to complain through PayPal and eventually got all my money back. Lesson learnt. They are based in HK but have warehouses in UK and Europe. If you ever do order then be wary as they're not that easy in returning and will try to get away with charges to deduct from the amount you paid on receipt of a return. I would suggest you all keep away like you would with the plague!! All the reviews online are rubbish and are made up to make them look good.
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Expansys have changed from a "keep me notified" page to a pre-order page. I don't know whether that's due to a site relaunch (can't recall whether I've seen that design before), or whether it's changing.
BTW, for a while now, I haven't seen Simply listed on the Google Shopping page when searching for the Zenwatch.

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Expansys have changed from a "keep me notified" page to a pre-order page. I don't know whether that's due to a site relaunch (can't recall whether I've seen that design before), or whether it's changing.
BTW, for a while now, I haven't seen Simply listed on the Google Shopping page when searching for the Zenwatch.
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I pre ordered back in October but nothing since then obviously. Dunno if I should pre order again! Had a price when I first did it. £159.98 is the price that was given.
Just looked on simply be and it's on their site for pre order just under £200 - site has changed a lot since I made that horrible mistake of ordering from them a while ago.
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leedsnyc said:
I pre ordered back in October but nothing since then obviously. Dunno if I should pre order again! Had a price when I first did it. £159.98 is the price that was given.
Just looked on simply be and it's on their site for pre order just under £200 - site has changed a lot since I made that horrible mistake of ordering from them a while ago.
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I have a zenwatch in my possession in the UK. It was ordered from the US via Big Apple Buddy. I ordered it on Friday 5th December at around 2100, paid by PayPal and had it - with shipping & tracking information and regular updates - delivered by FedEx by 1030 on Monday 8th December.
The total cost was around $285, including service charges, but felt this was still pretty good value in the realm of early adoption, given the interminable wait for the damn thing to reach the UK.
I can vouch for the fact that Big Apple Buddy are entirely safe and reputable.
And the watch? Well worth it, especially with 5.01 sideloaded.

I looked at them^ but they came back much more expensive than this!
I've just ordered a Gear VR from Samsung US using .comGateway - very reasonable $20 plus postage.

bonerp said:
I looked at them^ but they came back much more expensive than this!
I've just ordered a Gear VR from Samsung US using .comGateway - very reasonable $20 plus postage.
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How much was the postage if you don't mind me asking? Also has anyone found anything like this that has Google play store as a retailer?
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bonerp said:
I looked at them^ but they came back much more expensive than this!
I've just ordered a Gear VR from Samsung US using .comGateway - very reasonable $20 plus postage.
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I'm surprised. How much was the quote for? May be Xmas demand related I suppose.

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How much was the postage if you don't mind me asking? Also has anyone found anything like this that has Google play store as a retailer?
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$50. I got them to pay for it too as wanted a us billing address.

Given up on simply electronics. Never before have i dealt with such an appalling company.
Dropped big Apple buddy another line. Doesn't look like the watch will be released anytime soon here!
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scrap that! Its in the uk next week!
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/132...the-uk-from-23-december-for-android-wear-fans

Certified refurbished ftv's rootable?

I am assuming these cannot be rooted and come out the box with latest firmware but I was just curious if anyone has ordered one of these and been able to root it?

Actually, I've purchased about 3 or 4 refurbs for myself and friends and ALL of them were rootable. Just got one yesterday that was and have another coming Monday. So, save yourself $20 and the wait for the new version to ship and order yourself a refurb and get that baby rooted!

Griz Behr said:
Actually, I've purchased about 3 or 4 refurbs for myself and friends and ALL of them were rootable. Just got one yesterday that was and have another coming Monday. So, save yourself $20 and the wait for the new version to ship and order yourself a refurb and get that baby rooted!
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Lol wow that's great to hear, I'll be ordering a few. Is it possible that you're more likely to get a rootable one as a refurb?

I don't understand how it would be likely to get a refurbished one with rootable fw. Refurbished means used. Amazon WILL MOST DEFINITELY attempt to update the boxes. The only scenario I can see where you'd get rootable aftv is if the previous owner returned it before unrootable firmware was released AND the reseller didn't connect it to the internet before selling and shipping it.
Unless there's something I haven't considered?...
If you are lucky enough to get one with rootable firmware, a good way to see if it's rootable is to plug it in (DONT PLUG ETHERNET) and let it run until it starts "searching for remote"
If that message doesn't switch to German, you should be good.
Then I'd unplug it and go to aftvnews starters guide. Read extra careful, block domains on router and definitely use an Ethernet cable for the initial setup. I was able to get past the updates in one shot but it would've been a lot harder with WiFi.

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I don't understand how it would be likely to get a refurbished one with rootable fw. Refurbished means used. Amazon WILL MOST DEFINITELY attempt to update the boxes. The only scenario I can see where you'd get rootable aftv is if the previous owner returned it before unrootable firmware was released AND the reseller didn't connect it to the internet before selling and shipping it.
Unless there's something I haven't considered?...
If you are lucky enough to get one with rootable firmware, a good way to see if it's rootable is to plug it in (DONT PLUG ETHERNET) and let it run until it starts "searching for remote"
If that message doesn't switch to German, you should be good.
Then I'd unplug it and go to aftvnews starters guide. Read extra careful, block domains on router and definitely use an Ethernet cable for the initial setup. I was able to get past the updates in one shot but it would've been a lot harder with WiFi.
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Well I guess it depends on the process they use to refurbish it. Since the previous poster said all of the ones he purchased were rootable I'm guessing they do a complete restore and do not update before shipping.

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Well I guess it depends on the process they use to refurbish it. Since the previous poster said all of the ones he purchased were rootable I'm guessing they do a complete restore and do not update before shipping.
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Oh yea. And I have no doubt the previous poster 's being honest, but I wouldn't think it's typical to find refurbished ones with rootable fw. That being said, the power of the bargain is strong. I bought an openbox aftv from bestbuy hoping the previous owner didn't actually use it or it had been stored away for months. It still had his Amazon info on it and an unrootable version. Returned it for a new one and rooted. Point is I was about 90% certain I couldn't root the used one but not a big risk because I could return it. If you can send it back, by all means try to save money. I just wouldn't get my hopes up.
Btw--79.99.staples and bestbuy still have rootable ones as late as last week.

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Oh yea. And I have no doubt the previous poster 's being honest, but I wouldn't think it's typical to find refurbished ones with rootable fw. That being said, the power of the bargain is strong. I bought an openbox aftv from bestbuy hoping the previous owner didn't actually use it or it had been stored away for months. It still had his Amazon info on it and an unrootable version. Returned it for a new one and rooted. Point is I was about 90% certain I couldn't root the used one but not a big risk because I could return it. If you can send it back, by all means try to save money. I just wouldn't get my hopes up.
Btw--79.99.staples and bestbuy still have rootable ones as late as last week.
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I guess it's a moot point since neither of us know the process they are using to refurbish them but buying three refurbished products and all of them being rootable inclines me to believe they aren't simply reboxing returns but possibly doing an actual restore on them. I'd be interested to hear anyone else who has gotten a refurb.
Griz did you happen to note which firmware they had or if they all had the same?

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I guess it's a moot point since neither of us know the process they are using to refurbish them but buying three refurbished products and all of them being rootable inclines me to believe they aren't simply reboxing returns but possibly doing an actual restore on them. I'd be interested to hear anyone else who has gotten a refurb.
Griz did you happen to note which firmware they had or if they all had the same?
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All of the refubs I have purchased (4 or 5) have all come with 51.1.0.1 on them. I have another coming tomorrow if it is different I will report back. I see now Amazon is 1-3 weeks out shipping refubs. Maybe they caught on. I'm guessing whatever their process was, it defaulted to 51.1.0.1
For others sake, I hope they keep up the "good" work!

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I am assuming these cannot be rooted and come out the box with latest firmware but I was just curious if anyone has ordered one of these and been able to root it?
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For those still curious, I just received my re certified Fire TV through Amazon, and it came with Firmware 51.1.3.0. I had purchased a new one from Staples at the same time since they were having a deal, and the new Fire TV from Staples was loaded with Firmware 51.1.0.1. I will be returning my box from Amazon and rooting my box from Staples.