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hi all, if im right then my warrenty on my TP2 finishes in september.
So what im looking to do is stick a new cooked rom on there.
im pi55ed off with my phone because its sooo slow and it keeps failing on me but i dont want to get rid of it really because 99% of my friends either have crackberrys or ipoones and i want to be different.
i am a complete n00b with all the techy stuff like tweeking the phone.
I have a few questions for people with cooked roms
1 - what sort of memory does your rom run at?
2 - how long does your battery last and on what type of usage?
3 - do you need to keep doing soft re-sets?
4 - is your new rom quick and reliable?
5 - are all the features quick and realiable such as bluetooth?
i think thats it for now, i will start looking into the roms more from now on so i can hopefully just do it once and do it right the first time.
however if there are any chefs in london who are willing to build me a complete custom rom then PM me and we will discuss it further about the rom and pricing for your time ect...
THANKS in advance!!
1. The memory of some chef's ROMs can run as low as 40% on startup, moving up to about 50-60%. It depends. Look for the "lite" or "clean" ROMs for better memory.
2. The battery lasts me all day, heavy use through texting, phone calls, and internet. Using GPS, I'd imagine your battery would die fast, and phone calls don't seem to last longer than 3 hours before needing to be recharged.
3. Sadly, soft resets are needed for almost every WinMo device. That's the downside of all WinMo devices, though on the plus side, you get infinite customizability.
4. One of the most reliable ROMs with the most features is Valkyrie's ROM by Agent_47. I'm honestly no fanboy, but I have tried everyone else's ROMs, normal version, not lite or clean, and they all lack, or are crippled.
5. I don't use bluetooth, but wifi, phone signal, and GPS signal depend really on what radio you use. The different radios can be found in the ROM section. I use the most current one, .77, and I get good strength on all of the above.
thanks for the info, heres a bit more about my phone and its uage atm...
on the stock rom im using with using cleanram my phone runs around 60% - 70% but startup is just over 40%
Also i found my battery lasted 2 days when i had a 2gb card and now just over a day if im lucky with the 8gb card, so i may change it for a 4gb card which should be enough space for me.
Well, some clean and lite ROMs have as much as 80 MB free at start up (meaning, I believe that you would only have 20% on startup; any members can correct me if I'm wrong). I have only had 40% at most at startup, because I use feature packed ROMs.
I don't know anything about the SD card using more phone power, but you can give the 4 GB card a try. I get over 2 days on minimum usage with an 8 GB SD card. With max usage, as I said, I get about a full days use, with around 40-50% of battery life left.
also if anyone is local to me and wouldnt mind letting me have a quick play with there tp2 with a cooked rom to see how different it is to stock then please PM me
i went into a vodafone store today to double check about my warrenty, but after the 12 months manufacturer warrenty is over then vodafone have their own warrenty to cover the phone untill my contract is over.
now i know this im unsure if i should flash my rom now incase i do have anymore problems with the phone ??
what do you all suggest?
Just do the flash and get it over with You only have ONE first flash and then after that everything wont be as stressfull..
Also.. if you want to see what custom roms look like running on the phone just search for some custom roms on youtube. I'm sure you'll see some there. You'd get a more thurough view of what they do then if you were just bumbling around with it for 5 minutes on your own.
fair enough, i need to get my compuuter working then i guess to flash it!!
when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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Because custom ROM's don't have the critical "signature" that can only come from the manufacturer or carriers themselves. The stock SPL won't allow ROM's that don't have that signature, so that's why you have to replace SPL with a custom one when you want to flash ROM's issued by anybody than the carriers or HTC.
Sorry for the threadjack... but i was wondering the same things as the topic starter...
May i just add a few more questions?
*Roms like Energy, do they support BT and GPS?
*Is the problem with the sms lag (phone not waking on receiving) solved by a cooked rom?
*What are the major drawbacks when switching for standard to cooked? Ok the waranty is cancelled but anymore?
*I have a WWE version with WM6.5 ==> can i only install rom for 6.5 or can i install roms based on 6.1?
*I've looked at radios and the compatiblitylist... does this mean i have to install the wwe radio to get my device working?
feel free to ask questions here about roms ans im interested in the answers too
also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
I recently flashed deepshining x7 rom and I can't believe I waited so long. My TP2 feels faster and I love all the options available such as Cookie's home tabe editor and the such. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you flash. You can always flash back to the original if you don't like it.
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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Here they are, just wanted to make sure we were thinking of the same things
thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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You bet! And yeah, these are the first two cabs I recommend all new Rhodium owners run...I don't know if they'll clear up all your issues, but you should at least see a significant change in available RAM.
Ive just put them onto my phone and doing a soft reset!
Ive also changed to the windows today menu last night and its running a bit better with that!!
Has anyone else noticed that there some paid/protected apps are not showing up in the marketplace? I can't find fandango or ride hopper pro using this rom, but they show up on slidemeroot2, nonrooted slides and a nonrooted motorola droid.
Anyone else notice missing crap?
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There are rooted and unrooted slides experiencing this as well. There is a thread about it in the general section
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I restored my slidemeroot2 nandroid image, wiped and reset up my google account. Low and behold I could get those two apps.
I restored my slidemeroot5, wiped, reset and still couldn't get them.
Wiped, reflashed slidemeroot5r1, added my google account and no dice off a virgin 5r1 flash.
Only thing I can think of is it knows I'm running apps2sd and can copy the apk from apps.private.
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mytouch slide
I see a lot of mytouch slide owners here and I was wondering if rooting the mytouch makes it more efficient?
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I see a lot of mytouch slide owners here and I was wondering if rooting the mytouch makes it more efficient?
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There are a few reasons why some might actually need root the most important being the ability to put your applications onto the SD card (a2sd). Some people love to fill their phones to the brim with applications and currently there is no stock feature that allows you to use a2sd. Another feature that rooting allows is the capacity to use a wireless data sharing application that would give one the ability to use their phone as a modem with any wirelessly enabled laptop or computer. Currently there are a couple of applications in the market that will allow the use of your phone as a modem but I have found them to be less efficient than the rooted solution and limited as free versions and somewhat expensive for the full featured versions. There is talk that the 2.2 (FroYo) system update will include the a2sd feature but I was told by a tmobile beta device and software tester that he is confident that a2sd and native data tethering (network data connection sharing) with a usb cable will NOT be features supported natively in the coming FroYo (2.2) system update.
Rooting is also good for simply trying out customized and themed operating systems in the form of ROMs. Some folks have a big problem with the tmobile branded "Sense" operating system (OS) that was shipped with the phone. I love the Sense OS and I was a hardcore "Cyanogen Mod" ROM fan ... I can't imagine using a Cyanogen ROM at this point but I will try a Cyanogen ROM once that particular ROM is released because those ROMs are usually very nice. As the rooting scene develops there might by a way to "overclock" the processor to a higher speed than the 600mhz clock speed the stock ROM and all root ROMs are currently set. There has been no such overclocking achieved or utilized with a rooted ROM for the MT3GS at this point. Overclocking reduces battery life so you really have to choose whether a subtle performance improvement is worth the loss of battery longevity throughout the day.
Currently I think stock and unrooted is the way to go as the ROM's that are currently available for the MT3GS are no real improvement over stock ... but if you need a2sd due to limited internal memory or you need a mobile modem for your laptop or home computer then it is absolutely worth while. So it all depends on what you are trying improve the efficiency of when it comes to rooting.
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NJAZ said:
There are a few reasons why some might actually need root the most important being the ability to put your applications onto the SD card (a2sd). Some people love to fill their phones to the brim with applications and currently there is no stock feature that allows you to use a2sd. Another feature that rooting allows is the capacity to use a wireless data sharing application that would give one the ability to use their phone as a modem with any wirelessly enabled laptop or computer. Currently there are a couple of applications in the market that will allow the use of your phone as a modem but I have found them to be less efficient than the rooted solution and limited as free versions and somewhat expensive for the full featured versions. There is talk that the 2.2 (FroYo) system update will include the a2sd feature but I was told by a tmobile beta device and software tester that he is confident that a2sd and native data tethering (network data connection sharing) with a usb cable will NOT be features supported natively in the coming FroYo (2.2) system update.
Rooting is also good for simply trying out customized and themed operating systems in the form of ROMs. Some folks have a big problem with the tmobile branded "Sense" operating system (OS) that was shipped with the phone. I love the Sense OS and I was a hardcore "Cyanogen Mod" ROM fan ... I can't imagine using a Cyanogen ROM at this point but I will try a Cyanogen ROM once that particular ROM is released because those ROMs are usually very nice. As the rooting scene develops there might by a way to "overclock" the processor to a higher speed than the 600mhz clock speed the stock ROM and all root ROMs are currently set. There has been no such overclocking achieved or utilized with a rooted ROM for the MT3GS at this point. Overclocking reduces battery life so you really have to choose whether a subtle performance improvement is worth the loss of battery longevity throughout the day.
Currently I think stock and unrooted is the way to go as the ROM's that are currently available for the MT3GS are no real improvement over stock ... but if you need a2sd due to limited internal memory or you need a mobile modem for your laptop or home computer then it is absolutely worth while. So it all depends on what you are trying improve the efficiency of when it comes to rooting.
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I really appreciate you answering my question . I have a stock mt3g slide and I love the phone along with the Sense UI. It's fast, responsive and the only thing I was going to do was purchase a 32 gig card and be done with it . I started poking around the forums and that's how I came across "rooting". I just came from a jailbroken, unlocked Iphone 3g so I was totally stoked about doing this to my phone. But as I was reading up on it, I really did not see the purpose in rooting the mt3g slide just yet, besides like you said, the apps2sd and the tethering (which I did not know I could do on this phone until you mentioned it). I am a firm believer in tethering and I even downloaded the PdaNet app onto my phone but have yet to test it out.
My battery life is decent considering I keep 3g on at all times. Granted, there are a few spots that I travel to that have to use Edge but those spots are small. I saw a few videos with some nice roms but they all had the Sense UI removed and basically looked like every other android phone. I personally would like to "root" my phone while retaining Sense UI. I really like the "live wallpapers" and I have seen videos with it running on the slide and it looks really nice. Have you heard of an app called SetCpu <--spelling? I saw that people were able to overclock their chips significantly and I was wondering if I could use this same app on my mt3g slide?
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I saw that people were able to overclock their chips significantly and I was wondering if I could use this same app on my mt3g slide?
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Doesnt work yet, we dont have a kernal that supports it.
It will happen.
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Doesnt work yet, we dont have a kernal that supports it.
It will happen.
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Oh ok I was just wondering. I cannot wait until that becomes available for our phones.
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Are you people total knuckleheads or just totally miguided and misinformed
I have it on good authority ( as the person sitting next to me at the moment can attest, that Team Cyanogen does indeed have a froyo 2.2 like build out for the G1, soon to be available for the MT3GS....It has native tethering, native JIT, native apps2SD, and native froyo gmail, changes to the market and native FROYO 2.2 calendar and many other tasty goodies......without all of the junk of a sense UI, so put all these inferior and one step backwards builds on your nice new shiny phone (like putting retreads on a Lamborghini)and get your heads out of your know nothing asses, and wait 2 months top for (as they say on many pizza boxes, you've tried all the rest....now try the best) a MT3GS cyanogen build
As excited as I am about obsidian's post (/sarcasm), it has no relevance to this discussion.
I'm also missing some paid apps with this ROM. Specifically Pure Calendar Agenda widget. When I get some time this weekend I'm going to try out another ROM and see what happens.
That being said, looking on Google's support boards, it might not be a ROM specific problem, but could be account related.
That is good to know. If it's an account issue, are they working on a fix for it? I don't want to root my phone then not be able to see certain products in the market place.
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Oh, I should be more specific. The threads I found on Google's boards were saying the problem seemed tied to Google accounts. But I've also seen some people say that changing ROMs has done it too. I'll flash something else tomorrow and check it out.
Hello Everyone,
This is only to share what I found after weeks of searching (after posting a question a kind gentleman referred me to it) that works with both the Canadian variant of the t0lte T889V and the T-Mobile version itself (t0lte: haven't tried it since I don't own the phone however it's stated in the posts that it works).
After trying it for a few weeks now it's very smooth, has a control environment that modifies OC, UV, GPU OC, etc with one click depending on profiles, etc.
Read on here ----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602053
All credits due to psndna88 for creating the kernel and flash at your own risk (as in, if you flash the kernel and anything happens psndna88 and myself are not responsible.)
Make sure to chose the correct version depending on your phone.
Cheers everyone and hope this helps!
Its been posted everywhere on the T889 Forums.
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Its been posted everywhere on the T889 Forums.
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Thank you. I hadn't seen it though, and I was trying to find a kernel that would allow OC'ing with 4.4.2. I found others though and thought it may help anyone who would need it.
But thank you again!
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wavv.drama said:
Hello Everyone,
This is only to share what I found after weeks of searching (after posting a question a kind gentleman referred me to it) that works with both the Canadian variant of the t0lte T889V and the T-Mobile version itself (t0lte: haven't tried it since I don't own the phone however it's stated in the posts that it works).
After trying it for a few weeks now it's very smooth, has a control environment that modifies OC, UV, GPU OC, etc with one click depending on profiles, etc.
Read on here ----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602053
All credits due to psndna88 for creating the kernel and flash at your own risk (as in, if you flash the kernel and anything happens psndna88 and myself are not responsible.)
Make sure to chose the correct version depending on your phone.
Cheers everyone and hope this helps!
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From what I am reading, I understand that you tried this with T889V. But for sanity purposes and sake of completeness I want to ask the following:
The Agni kernel was flashed on T889V and in the last couple months you have had it, you have not noticed any glitches/issues?
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From what I am reading, I understand that you tried this with T889V. But for sanity purposes and sake of completeness I want to ask the following:
The Agni kernel was flashed on T889V and in the last couple months you have had it, you have not noticed any glitches/issues?
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Hi there,
Yes, I have flashed on my T889V a few months back, since I wanted a kernel that would allow me to OC a bit, use fast charge for USB since I don't have a wall plug always available to me etc. Over the past few months it has worked flawlessly, I haven't had any issues whatsoever. I find my phone runs much smoother that it did before, it charges way quicker and given I haven't OC'ed it to the max allowed, it never randomly reboots or anything. Given I have added a bunch of mod apps such as viper4android for sounds and others that use a lot of ressources, it works perfectly for me, I never have any lags. I don't know if there is anything specific u would like me to tell u about, if so please let me know and I will.
Cheers
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wavv.drama said:
Hi there,
Yes, I have flashed on my T889V a few months back, since I wanted a kernel that would allow me to OC a bit, use fast charge for USB since I don't have a wall plug always available to me etc. Over the past few months it has worked flawlessly, I haven't had any issues whatsoever. I find my phone runs much smoother that it did before, it charges way quicker and given I haven't OC'ed it to the max allowed, it never randomly reboots or anything. Given I have added a bunch of mod apps such as viper4android for sounds and others that use a lot of ressources, it works perfectly for me, I never have any lags. I don't know if there is anything specific u would like me to tell u about, if so please let me know and I will.
Cheers
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Thanks for all the info. I do have a few more questions.
How is the battery life? The biggest issue I found with custom roms and stock kernel was that battery life was terrible. It would drop a percentage roughly every minute and a half the screen was on.
Which Rom are you using this kernel with?
Which recovery did you end up using? CWM, TWRP or Phillz?
Also, did you root the phone with CF-Autoroot or SuperUser?
I had issues with whatsapp when I rooted my phone (I could not download pictures, but could send them). Went back to stock as I use whatsapp a lot.
My pleasure! As for my set up, it's stock Touchwiz 4.4.2 running Agni kernel. The app it comes with allows for several customizations, both battery friendly and performance friendly, but what I use if the above stock overclocking and a little. The governor and I/O scheduler are part of settings that the creator of Agni has, which works very well for me. As for battery, it lasts pretty much all day.. I use the phone for about 3 to 4 hours of voice, read a lot with it and text/youtube/listening to podcasts/casting video etc, and it lasts all day long. I charge my phone nightly, and goes from the morning at 100% to night time (around 9pm) at about 35% - 40%. I use philz, and rooted the phone with philz after flashing the recovery through Odin; I've never used CF auto root. After rooting the phone, I installed superSU and my phone runs very very smoothly. I used (in the past) Omni on this phone, and it used to work perfectly.. I had issues with netflix and the gallery, so I stuck to it for a few months but got tired of AOSP and went back to Touchwiz.. I personally prefer it.
Hope it helps, cheers!
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My pleasure! As for my set up, it's stock Touchwiz 4.4.2 running Agni kernel. The app it comes with allows for several customizations, both battery friendly and performance friendly, but what I use if the above stock overclocking and a little. The governor and I/O scheduler are part of settings that the creator of Agni has, which works very well for me. As for battery, it lasts pretty much all day.. I use the phone for about 3 to 4 hours of voice, read a lot with it and text/youtube/listening to podcasts/casting video etc, and it lasts all day long. I charge my phone nightly, and goes from the morning at 100% to night time (around 9pm) at about 35% - 40%. I use philz, and rooted the phone with philz after flashing the recovery through Odin; I've never used CF auto root. After rooting the phone, I installed superSU and my phone runs very very smoothly. I used (in the past) Omni on this phone, and it used to work perfectly.. I had issues with netflix and the gallery, so I stuck to it for a few months but got tired of AOSP and went back to Touchwiz.. I personally prefer it.
Hope it helps, cheers!
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Thanks for that. Now I know the process I can try to get better results with a custom kernel.
Lastly, are you running your T889V on Videotron? If so, have you updated your phone with the new stock firmware (T889VVLUDNH2) from Samsung? The T889VVLUDNH2 appears to be a modem only update for T889V, but I can't be sure as I have not found any official change log by Samsung.
In any case, I was wondering if the update enabled any LTE bands (specifically LTE Band 4 - the AWS LTE Band) on the T889V. The update seems to coincide with the LTE network that Videotron launched last month (Sept 2014).
Are you getting LTE speeds on your T889V?
wavv.drama said:
Hello Everyone,
This is only to share what I found after weeks of searching (after posting a question a kind gentleman referred me to it) that works with both the Canadian variant of the t0lte T889V and the T-Mobile version itself (t0lte: haven't tried it since I don't own the phone however it's stated in the posts that it works).
After trying it for a few weeks now it's very smooth, has a control environment that modifies OC, UV, GPU OC, etc with one click depending on profiles, etc.
Read on here ----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602053
All credits due to psndna88 for creating the kernel and flash at your own risk (as in, if you flash the kernel and anything happens psndna88 and myself are not responsible.)
Make sure to chose the correct version depending on your phone.
Cheers everyone and hope this helps!
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I have tried CM11 and Omni 4.4.4 roms and it appears that the phone loses:
1) its model number (no big deal),
2) carrier id just shows US (would be useful to have real operator for roaming),
3) and lastly, does not show the type of data network it is connected to. Just shows bars, no E, 3G etc. Also, it show LTE in network options, but not WCDMA/GSM, since the phone does not have LTE. I would like too see the network I am connected to.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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I have tried CM11 and Omni 4.4.4 roms and it appears that the phone loses:
1) its model number (no big deal),
2) carrier id just shows US (would be useful to have real operator for roaming),
3) and lastly, does not show the type of data network it is connected to. Just shows bars, no E, 3G etc. Also, it show LTE in network options, but not WCDMA/GSM, since the phone does not have LTE. I would like too see the network I am connected to.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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The only think I can think of is that since you're no longer running TouchWIz but AOSP, the Kernel might have compatibility issues. From what I read before when I was using this phone as my daily driver, this kernel was meant for TW roms, but since CM and Omni are AOSP, I figure some things might not be compatible. If I'm not mistaken, the creator of the kernel has a version called pure AOSP rather than this version, which is pure stock.
Hope it helps!
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The only think I can think of is that since you're no longer running TouchWIz but AOSP, the Kernel might have compatibility issues. From what I read before when I was using this phone as my daily driver, this kernel was meant for TW roms, but since CM and Omni are AOSP, I figure some things might not be compatible. If I'm not mistaken, the creator of the kernel has a version called pure AOSP rather than this version, which is pure stock.
Hope it helps!
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Thanks. Is there a ROM/Kernel combination you would recommend as a daily driver for the T889v.
I would want the following:
1) Decent battery life compared to stock. On stock I lose about 2.5% an hour by just being on standby. And with use I lose about 1% every 2 mins of screen time (for example when reading news in chrome browser at lowest brightness.)
2) Is responsive. The stock rom is starting to become really laggy (despite me having uninstalled a lot of apps). I know a lot of the budget phones like the Moto G2, which have less ram be much more responsive.
3) It would be nice if it shows the type of data network I am connected to HSPA+, 3G, Edge etc
4) Lastly, would be nice if it actually displays the carrier I am connected to, instead of displaying US.
Also, would points 3 and 4 be resolved if I removed boot.img from the ROM package? I have read that somewhere, but was not an authoritative source and don't want to brick the phone. It is still my daily driver, and would like to avoid bricking it.
Well, as for past experiences, what I used to run on the phone when I was on AOSP was Omni.. I really liked the battery life, it run for about two days with regular browsing, email checking, phone using, texting, youtube video playing, etc. If you decide to flash Omni, what I would suggest would be to run the kernel that comes with it. Normally, the Rom will come with it's own kernel manager (I believe they either use PAC kernel, Linaro or a CM based kernel), but it will work fine. The only thing that drove me off of Omni was that there was an issue with Netflix, but there's a patch running around in the forums and also in the Xposed framework. As per the ROM showing either 4G or LTE of HDPA+, at the time we didn't have in LTE with the phone, but I could see HSPA+ just fine.
If I can recommend something, is to clean install whichever ROM u decide to flash, and use the minimal GAPPS. Also, when you restore your apps (if you use something like TiBu) never restore system apps, just user apps.
Let me know what you end up doing and how it works for you!
Hi to all of you. I recently did buy a LG G3 with KitKat 4.4.2. Phone is awesome, battery lasts a lot for this screen over a day and a half (medium usage), without lagginess, maybe after restart it takes about 1 second to find everything but generally i am very happy with my purchcase. I have some questions though. Recently i got a OTA update about sth vcalled 20e. Its an update ~555mb and after some search i found out that this is the Lollipop official firmware. After plugging my phone into the LG PC Suite, i found out that even a newer version is available the 20f firmware ~over 1gb. Here starts my questions. Is it worth to go from kitkat to jellybean? Or is it better to stick with kitkat until they fix all the bugs i found out on forums. (So far i saw battery doesnt last so long, wireless charging has problems, lte doesnt work on most devices, others said about lagginess, most apps do not work with the new ART system). So what are your thoughts about this? Also i want to remove some google apps like google drive, and i want to remove this McAfee. Is there any possible way to do that easily without ruining my phone?
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Hi to all of you. I recently did buy a LG G3 with KitKat 4.4.2. Phone is awesome, battery lasts a lot for this screen over a day and a half (medium usage), without lagginess, maybe after restart it takes about 1 second to find everything but generally i am very happy with my purchcase. I have some questions though. Recently i got a OTA update about sth vcalled 20e. Its an update ~555mb and after some search i found out that this is the Lollipop official firmware. After plugging my phone into the LG PC Suite, i found out that even a newer version is available the 20f firmware ~over 1gb. Here starts my questions. Is it worth to go from kitkat to jellybean? Or is it better to stick with kitkat until they fix all the bugs i found out on forums. (So far i saw battery doesnt last so long, wireless charging has problems, lte doesnt work on most devices, others said about lagginess, most apps do not work with the new ART system). So what are your thoughts about this? Also i want to remove some google apps like google drive, and i want to remove this McAfee. Is there any possible way to do that easily without ruining my phone?
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Stay on 4.4.2. Most of your research is correct - 5.0 is laggy, drains battery faster, there is "while on wireless charger, screen turns itself on constanly after charge reached 100%" bug, etc.
No, on 5.0 you can delete mcafee only via code from their support. And there is no way to delete Gapps wout root, which can only be obtained by flashing prerooted rom.
About apps - 99.9% of apps do work with ART. However, some - like Webkit-based apps - do crash sometimes.
About lte - only affects people who bought phones that were intended for different region. Region can be changed, btw, so it's not a real problem - it's just a ton of n00bs whining about "bug" they brought on themselves.
YaDr said:
Stay on 4.4.2. Most of your research is correct - 5.0 is laggy, drains battery faster, there is "while on wireless charger, screen turns itself on constanly after charge reached 100%" bug, etc.
No, on 5.0 you can delete mcafee only via code from their support. And there is no way to delete Gapps wout root, which can only be obtained by flashing prerooted rom.
About apps - 99.9% of apps do work with ART. However, some - like Webkit-based apps - do crash sometimes.
About lte - only affects people who bought phones that were intended for different region. Region can be changed, btw, so it's not a real problem - it's just a ton of n00bs whining about "bug" they brought on themselves.
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So you propose to stick with KitKat 4.4.2 and wait a couple of months until Lollipop gets better?, because i also heard the new art system is faster and more reliable. And generally the Lollipop is meant to be faster than kitkat. If you all advise me so, i will keep this thread open so that i can reply back or even ask more when the time comes
SotosTzam said:
So you propose to stick with KitKat 4.4.2 and wait a couple of months until Lollipop gets better?, because i also heard the new art system is faster and more reliable. And generally the Lollipop is meant to be faster than kitkat. If you all advise me so, i will keep this thread open so that i can reply back or even ask more when the time comes
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Well, i do advise to stick to 4.4.2 until LG fixes 5.0. However, there are thousands of members on xda. You may want to hear other's opinions before deciding anything.
P.S.: ART is faster than dalvik, there is no compilation-in-runtime overhead.
I'd wait and see if it eventually gets to 5.0.2. In earlier versions of LP, there is a memory leak that causes the system to slow down after awhile. 5.0.2 apparently fixes this. However, I have 5.0.2 on my Nexus 7 tablet and after awhile, I still notice performance issues that require a reboot, so I don't know if they really have the memory leak fixed or not. That's a pretty nasty bug that needs to be fixed before I install it on this phone.
Currently, KK runs great. And, if you want the LP look, you can do a few things:
Install Nova launcher and switch to LP icons
Install Xposed (which won't work on LP) and there is an Xposed module to give you the LP nav bar icons
KK on this phone runs great for me. No issues and I have no reason to go to LP at this time. Until they get the memory leak fixed, no dice for me. I love having a phone that doesn't require a reboot.
Agreed with most of the above. I actually upgraded mine to Lollipop. The experience was horrific. I went back to Kitkat and absolutely have no issues with the phone. It's a dream compared to Lollipop.
I also rooted and use the Tweaksbox to add lollipop styling. I won't be moving to lollipop again any time soon.
SotosTzam said:
Hi to all of you. I recently did buy a LG G3 with KitKat 4.4.2. Phone is awesome, battery lasts a lot for this screen over a day and a half (medium usage), without lagginess, maybe after restart it takes about 1 second to find everything but generally i am very happy with my purchcase. I have some questions though. Recently i got a OTA update about sth vcalled 20e. Its an update ~555mb and after some search i found out that this is the Lollipop official firmware. After plugging my phone into the LG PC Suite, i found out that even a newer version is available the 20f firmware ~over 1gb. Here starts my questions. Is it worth to go from kitkat to jellybean? Or is it better to stick with kitkat until they fix all the bugs i found out on forums. (So far i saw battery doesnt last so long, wireless charging has problems, lte doesnt work on most devices, others said about lagginess, most apps do not work with the new ART system). So what are your thoughts about this? Also i want to remove some google apps like google drive, and i want to remove this McAfee. Is there any possible way to do that easily without ruining my phone?
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My advice is go for it. In my experience with the lollipop update all those little hick ups that appear occasionally (especially in animations and while pulling down notification bar) are gone. Lollipop is fluid and smooth, and rock stable. So far i haven't faced any FCs, glitches etc.. Everything is working fine (well, at least on my phone) and better than what it used to be on kitkat. Battery life is as good, if not even slightly better on lollipop.
I came from a nexus 5, and have been a nexus user for the last 3 generations, so i have high standards when it comes to lag and performance.
P.s. i have the 32gb/3gb RAM and i'm on stock firmware.
As an answer from LG Hellas, i got this: That the phone is working whole better and faster than kitkat (as lollipop), and that all errors are fixed. Also the lollipop update can use the whole processing power of the phone and as a result toghether with the art system, the phone is working better and faster with less battery drain than before. Also downgrading to their lg shops costs :/ . That was their answer to me.
I have a question for you guys. When i play a song sometimes particular songs show wrong album arts. And the correct are blurry. What size should i make them in order to show as good quality?
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Anything from 1000x1000 up to whatever you like you have some decent and good quality on any song. Because i found a problem and i think many of you out there have this problem as well. If some album arts display wrong, change that track's album to something.
****MAGISK_ROOT_NOT_REQUIRED_SUPERUSER_DISABLED****
In this thread I am going to share my magisk Mods which I am currently using in a hope that these will help others to get a extraordinary experience.
<Disclaimer:"I am not responsible for anything bad happening to it cell because of it wrong doings "./>
<All these Mods are tried on BEST OF ALL ROMS upto date i.e. HAVOC OS. so recommended also/>
<Before starting:: to change the looks of my phone I use oxygen os tweak that thread of mine is located in below thread::
https://forum.xda-developers.com/max-pro-m2/themes/feel-oxygen-os-t3928782
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For Optmizing kernel and Ram management
NFS injector and FD.AI mod
Now you might be wondering why I used two Ram and kernel optrimizers instead of one the reason is that NFS aims for Optmizing cell for overall fluid experience be it in heavy games like pubg or asphalt 8
while FD ai realtime optimizer i.e. it optmizes Ur cell on the basis of how it is used so as to provide faster app openings ,fluid animations and more ? life and best part is it will keep Ur phone improving day by day based on type of user.
U will not able to understand it completely until you not experience it.
Next up is PIXIFY(slim)
This mod activate all this pixel goodies on your phone such as screen call etc. without putting more load on phone.
Next up is SONY DUMMY.
this mod help you to get all Sony apps available in playstore without much hustle but you have clear playstore data once after reboot.
IF YOU ARE USING ANY MOD WHICH YOU THINK IS BEST THEN DO SHARE BELOW TO MAKE THIS CELL
ULTIMATE FOR ALL.
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****MAGISK_ROOT_NOT_REQUIRED_SUPERUSER_DISABLED****
In this thread I am going to share my magisk Mods which I am currently using in a hope that these will help others to get a extraordinary experience.
<Disclaimer:"I am not responsible for anything bad happening to it cell because of it wrong doings "./>
<All these Mods are tried on BEST OF ALL ROMS upto date i.e. HAVOC OS. so recommended also/>
<Before starting:: to change the looks of my phone I use oxygen os tweak that thread of mine is located in below thread::
https://forum.xda-developers.com/max-pro-m2/themes/feel-oxygen-os-t3928782
/>
For Optmizing kernel and Ram management
NFS injector and FD.AI mod
Now you might be wondering why I used two Ram and kernel optrimizers instead of one the reason is that NFS aims for Optmizing cell for overall fluid experience be it in heavy games like pubg or asphalt 8
while FD ai realtime optimizer i.e. it optmizes Ur cell on the basis of how it is used so as to provide faster app openings ,fluid animations and more life and best part is it will keep Ur phone improving day by day based on type of user.
U will not able to understand it completely until you not experience it.
Next up is PIXIFY(slim)
This mod activate all this pixel goodies on your phone such as screen call etc. without putting more load on phone.
Next up is SONY DUMMY.
this mod help you to get all Sony apps available in playstore without much hustle but you have clear playstore data once after reboot.
IF YOU ARE USING ANY MOD WHICH YOU THINK IS BEST THEN DO SHARE BELOW TO MAKE THIS CELL
ULTIMATE FOR ALL.
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Did pixify activate Call Screening for you? I tried the full version and it wasnt activated. Which Rom are you on?? Also would like to recommend Viper4Andorid
Brezinger101 said:
Did pixify activate Call Screening for you? I tried the full version and it wasnt activated. Which Rom are you on?? Also would like to recommend Viper4Andorid
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Yes screen call is not available for now on custom roms
After 2 days 9f putting all sorts of stress on Phone I can now say NFS injector and FD AI mod make a difference. I find phone much more responsive. The best part is even after heavy pubg playing for 5hrs, the phone remained Cool and performed exceptionally well. I m using arrow OS by bauuu. Go for it guys.
I only use NFS injector for my phone currently because its is stated that to not use any other kernel tweakers.
while at that, my experience with only NFS injector is pretty good.
battery is cool even on heavy gaming session