If you end up unlocking the bootloader of a Verizon pixel XL correctly using depixel8, couldn't you install the system.img provided by Google that will,when relocking the bootloader, revert you to the locked stock bootloader version of the pixel XL instead of going back to the Verizon based factory bootloader?
Maybe I am misunderstanding the issue? Can anyone clarify this?
rester555 said:
If you end up unlocking the bootloader of a Verizon pixel XL correctly using depixel8, couldn't you install the system.img provided by Google that will,when relocking the bootloader, revert you to the locked stock bootloader version of the pixel XL instead of going back to the Verizon based factory bootloader?
Maybe I am misunderstanding the issue? Can anyone clarify this?
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It's not that simple. 1st, if one's VZW device bootloader is unlocked using dePixel8, it will in all likelyhood remain unlocked in the future when flashing updates. 2nd, the bootloader.img file is identical between VZW and Google Store versions. It appears that there is something hardcoded in the IMEI on VZW devices that identifies them, then the bootloader software becomes "unlockable" when it sees that flag.
Repeating old ground, dePixel8 works on devices that are on 7.1. But the exploit has been patched by Google on 7.1.1 (December update).
cam30era said:
It's not that simple. 1st, if one's VZW device bootloader is unlocked using dePixel8, it will in all likelyhood remain unlocked in the future when flashing updates. 2nd, the bootloader.img file is identical between VZW and Google Store versions. It appears that there is something hardcoded in the IMEI on VZW devices that identifies them, then the bootloader software becomes "unlockable" when it sees that flag.
Repeating old ground, dePixel8 works on devices that are on 7.1. But the exploit has been patched by Google on 7.1.1 (December update).
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It's the Cid. Verizon models have the Verizon Cid. I think it's like VZW001
toknitup420 said:
It's the Cid. Verizon models have the Verizon Cid. I think it's like VZW001
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Pretty sure it's not the cid. If I recall right most of all this has been covered in this long thread over in the Guides & News section. Where I recall reading at least one person that was able to confirm that it isn't the CID alone, if at all.
Thanks guys.. it makes my decision easier not to buy the VZW version easier. The deal they have is good, but not worth my time if I can't unlock it like the Google version.
rester555 said:
Thanks guys.. it makes my decision easier not to buy the VZW version easier. The deal they have is good, but not worth my time if I can't unlock it like the Google version.
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If you hurry up and get one soon it won't be on 7.1.1 yet. Probably not till the end of January will they actually ship with it. They won't unbox phones to install the update. People are still getting them now with 7.1
I much prefer not to have to deal with that BS and wait for price decreases for the Google store version or through other means.
Hello,
I ordered an unlocked Pixel XL on Amazon (sold out of Google store) after my old Nexus finally kicked the bucket. Lo and behold, they sent me a Verizon one instead.
It was version 7.1, and someone my complete technologically inept self managed to figure out how to unlock it using dePixel8, and now I'm using T-Mobile.
I'd like to know if it's safe to update from 7.1 -> 8.0, and whether the bootloader will remain unlocked. I have no desire to root my phone or anything in the future, I'm just an honest guy who wants to use whatever carrier they wish.
Thanks everyone!
The bootloader will remain unlocked. To move to 8.0, simply flash the latest 8.0 factory image from Google's developer site.
You didn't have to unlock the bootloader to use the phone on T-Mobile.
Hello,
Just want quick help from the experts to ensure I dont end up buying a Verizon unit > 7.1 and end up with a brick which cannot be unlocked and rooted.
So I am on the hunt for a Google branded set. Just inform please ,
1. If it is a google branded set, then can the bootloader be unlocked on it regardless of any locking/unlocking done in the past, even if it is upgraded to the current 8.1 version ROM.
2. I have been eyeing a Google branded unit for which the bootloader was unlocked, then locked again then was flashed with the Beta version of the 8.1 ROM and finally the production version of the 8.1 stock ROM. Would it still be able to unlock the bootloader.
Thanks for filling my knowledge gaps.
Yes to both of your questions.
HyperEscape said:
Hello,
Just want quick help from the experts to ensure I dont end up buying a Verizon unit > 7.1 and end up with a brick which cannot be unlocked and rooted.
So I am on the hunt for a Google branded set. Just inform please ,
1. If it is a google branded set, then can the bootloader be unlocked on it regardless of any locking/unlocking done in the past, even if it is upgraded to the current 8.1 version ROM.
2. I have been eyeing a Google branded unit for which the bootloader was unlocked, then locked again then was flashed with the Beta version of the 8.1 ROM and finally the production version of the 8.1 stock ROM. Would it still be able to unlock the bootloader.
Thanks for filling my knowledge gaps.
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I can't speak for the Verizon version but if you pay for the EE version to be similar unlocked the toggle to unlock bootloader in developer options stops being greyed out
I have the 2016 Motorola Z Play, running 7.1.1. I was able to find instructions for replacing the recovery for this model (Addison) via adb, It appeared to work successfully, but I cannot boot into the recovery (Baseband Version M8953_10229.50.04.65R Addison_VZW_CUST. I am not eligible to have my Verizon model be bootloader unlocked via Motorola. Is there any way at all I can get TWRP on this model, a custom rom, and root? My phone is able to boot into the standard rom without issue. Thanks in advance.
As far as I know, there is no way to get TWRP/anything custom on a Verizon locked device without exploits. I'm not aware of any exploits for the Z Play that may allow you to do so, and with a locked bootloader, if you did try to flash anything non-stock, you may either experience it failing to flash/work or have a bootloop. The bootloop could require a stock ROM reflash (of the Verizon 7.1.1 variant). What happens when you boot to the recovery now, do you still see the 'no command' and the Android laying on its back?
I'm not sure if you can flash OTA updates if you've replaced your recovery, it might be that the Verizon and retail variants are similar enough that OTA updates may flash without issue, but only trying to update would answer that question.
I should clarify this restriction seems to be for devices bought through Verizon (i.e. have a vzw software channel), whereas retail devices on Verizon may not have the same bootloader restriction.
Is there a way to flash unlock google global version firmware onto the Verizon pixel 6 pro without root/unlock bootloader like there use to be. Can't believe nobody has asked this yer
dprscorpio7 said:
Is there a way to flash unlock google global version firmware onto the Verizon pixel 6 pro without root/unlock bootloader like there use to be. Can't believe nobody has asked this yer
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Haven't tried it yet, but I'm assuming the Android Flash Tool would work.
Android Flash Tool
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DarkusRattus said:
Haven't tried it yet, but I'm assuming the Android Flash Tool would work.
Android Flash Tool
flash.android.com
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Also, just to confirm there is no bootloader unlock for Verizon version right
dprscorpio7 said:
Also, just to confirm there is no bootloader unlock for Verizon version right
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Correct, and likely never will have bootloader unlock (for this or any future Verizon phone) except perhaps paying someone to do so once anyone figures out some way to hack it. I wouldn't hold my breath, though. The only way in the past has been by vulnerabilities/hacks, or the one time Verizon accidentally let those on Android 7.10 on the Pixel 1 the ability to toggle OEM Unlocking, but they patched it in Android 7.11.
dprscorpio7 said:
Is there a way to flash unlock google global version firmware onto the Verizon pixel 6 pro without root/unlock bootloader like there use to be. Can't believe nobody has asked this yer
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Unless you'll be using the device on an international carrier Google doesn't compile for, there's no reason to do so that I'm aware of, as the images aren't for branded devices, but for the carrier the device is being used on.
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Unless you'll be using the device on an international carrier Google doesn't compile for, there's no reason to do so that I'm aware of, as the images aren't for branded devices, but for the carrier the device is being used on.
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I need the unlocked version from Google store. I still have a Verizon security check on the phone and I bought it unlocked from best buy... So that is the reason. I want to know if I can flash Google store stock firmware on this phone?
dprscorpio7 said:
I need the unlocked version from Google store. I still have a Verizon security check on the phone and I bought it unlocked from best buy... So that is the reason. I want to know if I can flash Google store stock firmware on this phone?
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You can only flash a full firmware image with the bootloader unlocked, however you should be able to flash the OTA update required (you could also use Google's online Android Flash Tool).
AFAIK, there is no difference in the firmware between the unlocked vs branded devices besides bloatware from the carrier.
My understanding of the different images Google has compiled for specific carriers has to do with tweaks to the radio software and/or how the firmware interacts with the radio to ensure the best possible experience across carriers.
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You can only flash a full firmware image with the bootloader unlocked, however you should be able to flash the OTA update required (you could also use Google's online Android Flash Tool).
AFAIK, there is no difference in the firmware between the unlocked vs branded devices besides bloatware from the carrier.
My understanding of the different images Google has compiled for specific carriers has to do with tweaks to the radio software and/or how the firmware interacts with the radio to ensure the best possible experience across carriers.
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Well I've got a best buy unlocked version and yes I can unlock bootloader no problem and still getting a Verizon security check on hotspot which is the reason for me needing different firmware on phone. So I'll go ahead and unlock the bootloader if you can point me in the direction links of information on the flash tool and firmware I'm looking for that would be great. I want the global firmware unlocked for pixel 6 pro link
Here's the image.
dprscorpio7 said:
Here's the image.
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That's likely not going to go away with the Global image since the only differences between the images have to do with how the radios communicate with the arbitrary carrier [AFAIK]. If you're using Verizon, the Verizon image is the correct image to use.
For your issue, there are ways to get around it, possibly via the build.prop, but if not, then likely via a Magisk module.
The last Pixel I had before the 6 Pro was the Pixel XL and tethering up until then was controlled via a true/false [1/0] value within the build.prop, however that may have changed, but tethering is software-controlled, not radio-controlled.
Full firmware image (instructions) vs OTA image (instructions)
dprscorpio7 said:
Well I've got a best buy unlocked version and yes I can unlock bootloader no problem and still getting a Verizon security check on hotspot which is the reason for me needing different firmware on phone. So I'll go ahead and unlock the bootloader if you can point me in the direction links of information on the flash tool and firmware I'm looking for that would be great. I want the global firmware unlocked for pixel 6 pro link
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by Verizon security check. Do you have Verizon as your provider? If so then you're out of luck no matter what firmware you flash, hotspot will cost you. I'm not sure about what happens if you root though but that's a horse of another color. Lots of threads on bypassing hotspot restrictions if you have root.
This security check does not happen if you buy directly from Google store, so I need that firmware serial number and download file with how to flash it on my device.
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This security check does not happen if you buy directly from Google store, so I need that firmware serial number and download file with how to flash it on my device.
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Please see my prior comment
roirraW edor ehT said:
Correct, and likely never will have bootloader unlock (for this or any future Verizon phone) except perhaps paying someone to do so once anyone figures out some way to hack it. I wouldn't hold my breath, though. The only way in the past has been by vulnerabilities/hacks, or the one time Verizon accidentally let those on Android 7.10 on the Pixel 1 the ability to toggle OEM Unlocking, but they patched it in Android 7.11.
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That was awesome...
dprscorpio7 said:
This security check does not happen if you buy directly from Google store, so I need that firmware serial number and download file with how to flash it on my device.
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This isn't even a security check? Did you read the pop up? It clearly states to call customer service to subscribe and activate the hotspot. If you don't pay for hotspot, it won't work.... Also, if you bought the unlocked version from Best Buy.. then it is unlocked... There is no other software to flash. However, if you bought (which I'm sure you did) the Verizon version from Best Buy then it is a carried branded device, and it is unfortunately not unlocked straight from Google.
teegraves58 said:
This isn't even a security check? Did you read the pop up? It clearly states to call customer service to subscribe and activate the hotspot. If you don't pay for hotspot, it won't work.... Also, if you bought the unlocked version from Best Buy.. then it is unlocked... There is no other software to flash. However, if you bought (which I'm sure you did) the Verizon version from Best Buy then it is a carried branded device, and it is unfortunately not unlocked straight from Google.
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It is a security check, I promise you. I've had the pixels in the past and bad the same issue I'll show you that when I flash this unlocked firmware from Google store I guarantee you the security check or please subscribe will not pop up and will allow me to enable hotpsot
dprscorpio7 said:
It is a security check, I promise you. I've had the pixels in the past and bad the same issue I'll show you that when I flash this unlocked firmware from Google store I guarantee you the security check or please subscribe will not pop up and will allow me to enable hotpsot
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Have you tried to install global firmware on verizon Pixel?
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This isn't even a security check? Did you read the pop up? It clearly states to call customer service to subscribe and activate the hotspot. If you don't pay for hotspot, it won't work.... Also, if you bought the unlocked version from Best Buy.. then it is unlocked... There is no other software to flash. However, if you bought (which I'm sure you did) the Verizon version from Best Buy then it is a carried branded device, and it is unfortunately not unlocked straight from Google.
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It's a config file security check on carriers who charge separately for the ability to tether and has nothing to do with a carrier lock - if the device is bootloader unlocked, this could be bypassed previously
georgesurgeon said:
Have you tried to install global firmware on verizon Pixel?
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Please see prior comment