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[Q] Delete Preinstalled Apps - After Root!

I rooted because I was fed up with the preinstalled Orange bloatware apps as I need the space! I used unrevoked and I have full root access i.e. I have the superuser app and I have been able to access the system partition and even managed to delete apk files from the system apps directory.
However, despite trying all the suggestions i found on these forums and elsewhere; Root Explorer, System App Remover and Titanium backup, no matter how many times I remove the apps in question, within a short time, the phone reboots and the apps are back again!
Please note that I am only trying to remove the stupid games etc which Orange stuff the ROM with not anything significant.
I really dont fancy flashing a new ROM as I cant be bothered setting up my phone again from scratch, so any advice somebody can give would be REALLY apreciated!!

You need to S-Off your phone, not just root if you want to remove your applications, while the phone is booted.
Search a guide here in the Android Developement section.
Alternatively use ADB to remove the files - your phone must be in recovery mode.

Thanks so much!!

Or better yet, just install one of the custom roms with a2sd. If you don't want a modified one, just use rooted froyo with a2sd, this is a good one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789058

david_inuk said:
I rooted because I was fed up with the preinstalled Orange bloatware apps as I need the space! I used unrevoked and I have full root access i.e. I have the superuser app and I have been able to access the system partition and even managed to delete apk files from the system apps directory.
However, despite trying all the suggestions i found on these forums and elsewhere; Root Explorer, System App Remover and Titanium backup, no matter how many times I remove the apps in question, within a short time, the phone reboots and the apps are back again!
Please note that I am only trying to remove the stupid games etc which Orange stuff the ROM with not anything significant.
I really dont fancy flashing a new ROM as I cant be bothered setting up my phone again from scratch, so any advice somebody can give would be REALLY apreciated!!
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If you are S-ON you can delete them with ADB when you are in recovery mode.

You can also delete them through root explorer from the market. It's not free but it takes two minutes to use and you can see what your deleting if you are unsure

I have the same issue here.
Will try the ADB method when get a chance, but Root Explorer won't delete them - you can delete unwanted games etc, but they are still on the apps list the the files will come back after the reboot - tried this already.

kjur said:
I have the same issue here.
Will try the ADB method when get a chance, but Root Explorer won't delete them - you can delete unwanted games etc, but they are still on the apps list the the files will come back after the reboot - tried this already.
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really, what rom? i didnt have any issues with the setup mentioned in my sig

vis-tec said:
really, what rom? i didnt have any issues with the setup mentioned in my sig
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You are S-OFF, so no wonders why you don't have any problems

titanium backup
why not just use titanium backup. its free and a very easy way to uninstall apps.

Again, you need to be s-off to uninstall system apk, which unfortunately all the bloatware is.
Clarification, you need to be s-off to use titanium or root explorer to remove system apk.
veitograf said:
why not just use titanium backup. its free and a very easy way to uninstall apps.
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@vis-tec: It's Orange UK, rooted, but S-ON. ADB method works perfect tough. Tested last night. Also integrated some system apps updates in the ROM via ADB.

titanium backup hasn't work for me either.
only ADB

remember that deleting bloatware does not give you any extra amount of space.
these apps are in \system which is not where apps you download install.
only way of extending you app-space is A2SD+ or DATA2XXX but they tend to slow down the phone
best solution >> S-OFF and ROM designed to run on a custom HBOOT.
u get lots of space, and a super fast rom since dalvik cache stays on NAND

dzumagos said:
remember that deleting bloatware does not give you any extra amount of space.
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it does.
i've had google maps, youtube updates etc in the /data/app and after deleting bloatware and the old versions of gmaps etc. there was enough space in /system/app to move the updates there.
so now on the /data/app is 8-10MB more for my other apps.
also if i'm right the /system partition is used as cache for apps, so there is more space for this.
and it looks way better when you open 'all apps' drawer - the list is much shorter now and there is only the stuff you need

remove preinstalled apps

I have the Bell E973 with root and am trying to remove some of the bloatware that came with it but it will not let me. I've tried deleting them manually, uninstalling with titanium backup and another app called root app delete, but it fails every time. Titanium backup pro tells me the uninstallation worked but the games are still there. if I try to delete them manually in ES File Manager its the same thing it says the files were deleted but when I back out of the system folder then go back to it the games are still there.
I finally managed to get them to uninstall but when I reboot the phone they reinstall

Rather than uninstall them you could just freeze them so that they dont show up. Or you could try Rom Toolbox.. thats what I use and it seems to work fine..

Marshmallow M with SuperSU 2.65

S-0ff M9, took OTA yesterday. Installed TWRP3001, then SuperSU 2.64. Got SuperSU Pro from Play Store. Updated everything.
Everything works fine, Root Explorer and Titanium both get superuser permissions OK.
Deleting bloat apps with Titanium proceeds with no errors or issues.
Upon restart, any programs removed by Titanium return, as if never deleted.
Reset root for Titanium in SuperSU and restarted with no improvement.
Any suggestions?

michaelbsheldon said:
S-0ff M9, took OTA yesterday. Installed TWRP3001, then SuperSU 2.64. Got SuperSU Pro from Play Store. Updated everything.
Everything works fine, Root Explorer and Titanium both get superuser permissions OK.
Deleting bloat apps with Titanium proceeds with no errors or issues.
Upon restart, any programs removed by Titanium return, as if never deleted.
Reset root for Titanium in SuperSU and restarted with no improvement.
Any suggestions?
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Have you tried with root explorer, that's my go-to for deleting apps. Check in system/app+priv-app and data/app

michaelbsheldon said:
S-0ff M9, took OTA yesterday. Installed TWRP3001, then SuperSU 2.64. Got SuperSU Pro from Play Store. Updated everything.
Everything works fine, Root Explorer and Titanium both get superuser permissions OK.
Deleting bloat apps with Titanium proceeds with no errors or issues.
Upon restart, any programs removed by Titanium return, as if never deleted.
Reset root for Titanium in SuperSU and restarted with no improvement.
Any suggestions?
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I've seen this before when rooting the stock ROM. If I'm remembering correctly, for whatever reason, running the kit-kat sd fix apk (search market) to provide rw access to the sd fixes this. Run this-- then download ES Explorer, check the root access box, then add a random file (can be deleted after) to both the ext and internal sd (it puts you through a protocol that mounts both rw).
The other thing I remember doing is going into the actual apps dialogue and uninstalling "updates" on the bloatware apps (the ones that don't give you the option to simply uninstall), then returning to TiBu and uninstalling the same (underlying) apps from there-- essentially removing the ROM version of the app as well as the "*-1" version of the app.
*I'm fairly sure one of these steps fixes it, but will respond again if anything else hits me
EDIT: Make sure that you tell twrp to modify the system-image too-- should prompt you with a check box (if you haven't done this already)

[H815] New firmware V20h un-debloatable???

Yesterday, I installed firmware V20h at my H815. It seems, that LG added some mechanism that makes it impossible to uninstall bloatware and crapware apps permanently despite of correctly installed root rights.
I uninstalled some Google apps like Music, Books... etc. successfully via Titanium Backup, but after having rebooted, they were back again.
Can anybody confirm this? Maybe, there is a solution I have not known about yet... ?

Maheshwara said:
Yesterday, I installed firmware V20h at my H815. It seems, that LG added some mechanism that makes it impossible to uninstall bloatware and crapware apps permanently despite of correctly installed root rights.
I uninstalled some Google apps like Music, Books... etc. successfully via Titanium Backup, but after having rebooted, they were back again.
Can anybody confirm this? Maybe, there is a solution I have not known about yet... ?
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did those apps got updated? maybe you just deleted them from data/apps and not from system folder.
slds,

No, Mate, unfortunately not... I am sure, because after having failed uninstalling I deactivated them. When doing that, anyway, all updates are uninstalled. Afterwards, I retried uninstalling, but after rebooting, they have still appeared as deactivated in App menu... It really seems impossible to permanently delete any preinstalled crap with this new firmware...
Have you ever heard about "DT Ignite"? This is a tool for the carriers / manufacturers to generate revenue of unwanted stuff after deinstallation. I suppose, LG inserted a similar mechanism in this new ROM version or maybe - all the system partition is mounted read-only without Root-Apps like Titanium Backup noticing this.
At first, I supposed /cust folder contents could be the culprit. There is really a folder /cust/H3G_COM/overlay/app containing many .apk files, but the Google apps are not among them. So these contents can not be the culprit or at least not only. Later on, I will make another backup and then delete all the /cust folder contents. Let's see what will happen then.

I finally managed to uninstall all the crapware I wanted to get rid of. With Titanium Backup Pro, it did not work - after reboot, all the crap was back. Then I tried with ES FileExplorer Pro. I gave Root-Explorer r/w rights for all the root file system and then used its System App Uninstall functionality. After another reboot, all the crap has definitely gone!
But I still do not understand at all, why it is such a rocket science to debloat this ROM version! I have NEVER had such problems with things like that! And I have already rooted and debloated many different ROMs for many different devices!

Why do you even bother removing them? They are installed in the system partition so you won't gain any space by removing them. Disabling them is just about the same as removing, they will be virtually ignored by your device (it's the same thing as freezing apps in titanium backup). I see no point in removing those apps manually.
Also, if you are calling this bloat you obviously never used a Samsung device. Plus, I believe that LG is obliged by Google to put those apps in the phone (remember Nokia didn't get Android back them because they wanted to have their maps platform instead of Google maps?).
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Delete the folders using Root Backup instead. I've always found Titanium Backup really temperamental with removing apps on the System partition specifically on Marshmallow. Same thing as you, said it uninstalled them but they were still there after a reboot. A swift delete using root browser got rid of them.
These days I don't even bother and just use the debloater tool (3.90).

No way to remove facebook, messanger or instagram from HTC 10

Found a question that's interesting for me as well, but no answer...
Is there any way to remove those apps being stock without root? (If not, how to remove them with root?)
Also unneeded apps:
*Google
[Slides]
[Sheets]
[Docs]
[Exchange Services]
[Play Movies]
[Play Music]
[Hangouts]
[Keep]
*Social
[Facebook]
[Messenger]
[Instagram]
[News Republic]
*HTC
[Connect]
[Help]
[...]
P.S. I can understand the preinstallation of GApps, but why the heck would i like to have Facebook, Messenger and Instagram preinstalled on my system, that cannot even be uninstalled?

KotTHECat said:
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you have to have root. to remove them you install a file explorer with root access, like Root Explorer is my favorite.
You browse to the system folder of the phone and youll see an apps folder and a priv-app folder. the stuff your looking for will be in there and you delete the entire folder of the apps you don't want. reboot when finished and they should be uninstalled.
it will be best to start with backing up your untouched system incase removing some app gives you problems, which it can when messing with system apps.
there is also play store apps the will uninstall for you, other apps can also "freeze" bloat without actually removing so you can see side effects of removing them

You can remove them all easily without root but you'll need a custom recovery like TWRP.
I do this before first boot to clean up apps and add HTC file explorer etc.
You can flash TWRP, remove apps then restore the factory recovery.
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I just disabled them on mine, not like you would free up considerable space and if they are disabled, you don't get the updates eating in to your storage as the original just sits in the system partition.

afuller42 said:
you have to have root. to remove them you install a file explorer with root access, like Root Explorer is my favorite.
You browse to the system folder of the phone and youll see an apps folder and a priv-app folder. the stuff your looking for will be in there and you delete the entire folder of the apps you don't want. reboot when finished and they should be uninstalled.
it will be best to start with backing up your untouched system incase removing some app gives you problems, which it can when messing with system apps.
there is also play store apps the will uninstall for you, other apps can also "freeze" bloat without actually removing so you can see side effects of removing them
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Any way to remove Facebook completely without any problems after? Was thinking to maybe just buy the Chinese Version from China since China does not allow Facebook in the first place.