Related
So I've heard about bootloader unlocking which, I guess, enables me to have full control over the device (not like rooting, I understand that) and to do stuff like flashing new ROMs, etc.
But what about network unlocking? I mean, I'd like to be able to use my phone on any network I wish, do I need to unlock the bootloader for that? Do the network restrictions automatically disappear if I unlock the bootloader?
Also, is there anyway I can disable network restrictions by myself (without using something like a special SIM card or asking for remote unlocking) without having to pay for any unlocking service or ask someone to do it for me?
Thanks in advance! :3
positiveh said:
So I've heard about bootloader unlocking which, I guess, enables me to have full control over the device (not like rooting, I understand that) and to do stuff like flashing new ROMs, etc.
But what about network unlocking? I mean, I'd like to be able to use my phone on any network I wish, do I need to unlock the bootloader for that? Do the network restrictions automatically disappear if I unlock the bootloader?
Also, is there anyway I can disable network restrictions by myself (without using something like a special SIM card or asking for remote unlocking) without having to pay for any unlocking service or ask someone to do it for me?
Thanks in advance! :3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, so to answer your question, when you unlock the bootloader the sim lock remains, also afaik there are no "free" ways in which to remove the sim lock at this moment in time, the only way is to get the unlock code from your service provider or pay a remote unlocking service.
I think i may have seen on the arc forum somewhere for a small fee you can get your boot loader unlocked and sim unlocked at the same time.
One last note if your arc is sim locked there is a chance that you wont be able to unlock the bootloader via sony ericsson developer world, depending on your carrier
furrabbit.nh said:
I think i may have seen on the arc forum somewhere for a small fee you can get your boot loader unlocked and sim unlocked at the same time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That means it's also possible to unlock the boot loader remotely?
Also, if there's someone who can do it for us (small fees inc.), that means there's actually a way to do it, right?
positiveh said:
That means it's also possible to unlock the boot loader remotely?
Also, if there's someone who can do it for us (small fees inc.), that means there's actually a way to do it, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes there is a way to do it, i cant remember how much it costs exactly, but it's done remotely and sim unlocks and boot loader unlocks at the same time
And is it something I can do by myself?
positiveh said:
And is it something I can do by myself?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No its done remotely, im trying to find you a link hold on.
furrabbit.nh said:
No its done remotely, im trying to find you a link hold on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's posted in the stickys. ;-)
Sent from my LT15i using XDA App
furrabbit.nh said:
Hi, so to answer your question, when you unlock the bootloader the sim lock remains, also afaik there are no "free" ways in which to remove the sim lock at this moment in time, the only way is to get the unlock code from your service provider or pay a remote unlocking service.
I think i may have seen on the arc forum somewhere for a small fee you can get your boot loader unlocked and sim unlocked at the same time.
One last note if your arc is sim locked there is a chance that you wont be able to unlock the bootloader via sony ericsson developer world, depending on your carrier
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If someone else can do this as a paid service. Why can't someone explain how its done and make it available for free?
somedude67 said:
If someone else can do this as a paid service. Why can't someone explain how its done and make it available for free?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As for that i cannot answer.. But at a guess a lot of hard work will have gone into this. It keeps drm intact, provides Sim unlock and enables fast boot on handsets which didn't have it before, if i was in that situation with my arc i would have gladly paid, and i myself think the Dev/Devs are entitled to some hard earned cash
somedude67 said:
If someone else can do this as a paid service. Why can't someone explain how its done and make it available for free?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's exactly my point, that's what I wanted to say ;_;
furrabbit.nh said:
As for that i cannot answer.. But at a guess a lot of hard work will have gone into this. It keeps drm intact, provides Sim unlock and enables fast boot on handsets which didn't have it before, if i was in that situation with my arc i would have gladly paid, and i myself think the Dev/Devs are entitled to some hard earned cash
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The boot loader can be unlocked whilst keeping drm intact?
Now that is something id be interested in paying for know anyone who would be able to do this?
hello,,
Rooting status:
Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
does the rooting status of a brand new XPERIA ZL is always this?
Than you.
daywart said:
hello,,
Rooting status:
Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
does the rooting status of a brand new XPERIA ZL is always this?
Than you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. It depends where the phone comes from. If it's from a carrier, it is probably with a locked bootloader. If you buy it from lets say amazon at full price which the phone is already SIM unlocked, it will probably be with a unlockable BL.
Crash338 said:
No. It depends where the phone comes from. If it's from a carrier, it is probably with a locked bootloader. If you buy it from lets say amazon at full price which the phone is already SIM unlocked, it will probably be with a unlockable BL.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sir i bought it in a sony store here in philippines.
daywart said:
sir i bought it in a sony store here in philippines.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also went to my Sony store and they only had the one branded by Rogers so I guess you better make sure its factory before you purchase it becoz at the moment, theres no way to unlock a BL that is set to NO. ....But maybe someone will come up with an exploit in the near future.
Hi,
I have recently unlocked my Xperia S.(removed simlock by unlock code from o2)
However I want to unlock my bootloader now.
Of course I can't, when I access the service menu it says bootloader unlock allowed: NO.(Probably because of my carrier o2)
So my question is, what should I do next? Contact Sony? Or is my phone never going to be able, to get unlocked?
Thanks in advance
husami10 said:
Hi,
I have recently unlocked my Xperia S.(removed simlock by unlock code from o2)
However I want to unlock my bootloader now.
Of course I can't, when I access the service menu it says bootloader unlock allowed: NO.(Probably because of my carrier o2)
So my question is, what should I do next? Contact Sony? Or is my phone never going to be able, to get unlocked?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same thing with ny DoCoMo Acro HD (S). YOu will probably never, ever, be able to unlock the BL. Just like I can't. Sorry.
The only way is to go to O2, get them to agree to unlock your BL (if you can find a member of O2 staff who knows what a locked BL is...), then you will have to send your phone away to a Sony service centre, as it's not something you can do with a code. Only a Sony engineer can do it.
So, there you go. It's unlikely you can unlock your BL. Sorry. I haven't even tried.....
husami10 said:
Hi,
I have recently unlocked my Xperia S.(removed simlock by unlock code from o2)
However I want to unlock my bootloader now.
Of course I can't, when I access the service menu it says bootloader unlock allowed: NO.(Probably because of my carrier o2)
So my question is, what should I do next? Contact Sony? Or is my phone never going to be able, to get unlocked?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SO,
when I used o2 live chat and asked for help, he told me to go aks sony because he can't help.
Sony told me that they can't help me either
Is there any illegal way of unlocking it?
husami10 said:
Hi,
I have recently unlocked my Xperia S.(removed simlock by unlock code from o2)
However I want to unlock my bootloader now.
Of course I can't, when I access the service menu it says bootloader unlock allowed: NO.(Probably because of my carrier o2)
So my question is, what should I do next? Contact Sony? Or is my phone never going to be able, to get unlocked?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You cannot unlock your bootloader if it says NO. Never.
husami10 said:
SO,
when I used o2 live chat and asked for help, he told me to go aks sony because he can't help.
Sony told me that they can't help me either
Is there any illegal way of unlocking it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If O2 won't help you, then no. It's the only way. But chances of O2 staff having any idea what you are talking about is slim to none. Stock answer is to tell you to contact Sony.
Nagoyablue said:
I have the same thing with ny DoCoMo Acro HD (S). YOu will probably never, ever, be able to unlock the BL. Just like I can't. Sorry.
The only way is to go to O2, get them to agree to unlock your BL (if you can find a member of O2 staff who knows what a locked BL is...), then you will have to send your phone away to a Sony service centre, as it's not something you can do with a code. Only a Sony engineer can do it.
So, there you go. It's unlikely you can unlock your BL. Sorry. I haven't even tried.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK, thank you for your help.
I am never going to unlock it ;(
husami10 said:
OK, thank you for your help.
I am never going to unlock it ;(
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know how you feel.....I brought my phone outright, and never had a DoCoMo contract, but 'cos it's branded, I'll never get it unlocked. Gutted, mush.
Of course it is possible to unlock the bootloader, even when it is in NO state.
When S1 Server was available that was done on many phones.
If you unlocked your phone legaly you have to contact your network and they have to send phone to Sony Service, only they can do it.
Hi
I unlocked the bootloader when I first got the phone. I am going to sell it soon to make way for the Nexus 6P.
Is it possible to remove the bootloader unlocked warning when the phone first boots up?
Thanks for any advice.
i guess nope
If your selling and want it back to original the only way I know is fastboot oem lock
darrenjdoc said:
Hi
I unlocked the bootloader when I first got the phone. I am going to sell it soon to make way for the Nexus 6P.
Is it possible to remove the bootloader unlocked warning when the phone first boots up?
Thanks for any advice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're going to sell a device that is bootloader unlocked, you have to tell this the person you're selling it to, since it's no longer covered by the warranty. Don't tell me it is. Currently only the European model is unlockable and here in europe laws and regulations are unified among countries within the EU. I hope you do. Otherwise it's just fraudulent, but that's none of my business.
passion8059 said:
If your selling and want it back to original the only way I know is fastboot oem lock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, that command does not work on bootloader unlockable devices unless it's a Nexus/OPO/OPT/Huawei/Oppo and some older Motorola devices. etc.
Ok, I tried about every method and every stock rom I found on the net in order to relock the bootloader for my XT1922-3. And whenever I try to lock or unlock the bootloader I get the message "invalid boot state" and the next line read "OKAY". The bootloader remains unlocked. Bootloader shows "flashing_unlocked". Please, can anybody help me? I really don't know what else to do.
There's no point in relocking it plain and simple that's why you haven't found anything about it. Even if you do relock it for the purposes of trying to trick Moto it literally tells them in the logcats it's been bootloader unlocked. Also once you request the key and use it it voids the warranty which Moto also knows about. If your trying to sell it just be honest and tell the person it's bootloader unlocked but it doesn't effect the phones performance
ninjakira said:
There's no point in relocking it plain and simple that's why you haven't found anything about it. Even if you do relock it for the purposes of trying to trick Moto it literally tells them in the logcats it's been bootloader unlocked. Also once you request the key and use it it voids the warranty which Moto also knows about. If your trying to sell it just be honest and tell the person it's bootloader unlocked but it doesn't effect the phones performance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was just worried that something has gone wrong while unlocking. Thanks for the reply!
It should be possible to re-lock it like this (connect to PC in (stock) recovery mode --> fastboot oem lock begin --> flash stock ROM --> fastboot oem lock).
Also according to Motorola.
However it doesn't work on my device (XT1922-3). It returns confirmation messages with no single error, but it seems to ignore the command as the bootloader is still unlocked and still allows flashing other ROMS. I haven't seen anyone who succeeded in re-locking their Moto G6, except this person, although the same method is used.
General info:
- Motorola claims that just requesting an unlock code already voids the warranty (boooh!), except for the so called "Developer Editions". This however is a false statement if you bought your device in Europe, even if your bootloader is unlocked and have a custom ROM installed (they are required to follow the EU directives which means they can only withdraw the warranty on this basis when they can proof that the damage is caused by the custom software). I don't know about other regions.
- When unlocking a Motorola-device, it will be permanently detectible that it has been unlocked, even if you re-lock it afterwards. I've read that they use eFuses for this (clearing a value (possibly outside the partitions) or in some cases physically burn a small fuse). For restoring an eFuse you would need to know its initial value and set it again (generally not possible through known interfaces like USB,...).
FeeMale said:
It should be possible to re-lock it like this (connect to PC in (stock) recovery mode --> fastboot oem lock begin --> flash stock ROM --> fastboot oem lock).
Also according to Motorola.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Motorola doesn't even provide stock images for the XT1922 on their unlock support page. I assume they simply don't want users to relock their devices
However it doesn't work on my device (XT1922-3). It returns confirmation messages with no single error, but it seems to ignore the command as the bootloader is still unlocked and still allows flashing other ROMS. I haven't seen anyone who succeeded in re-locking their Moto G6, except this person, although the same method is used.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, giving the person making that statement the benefit of the doubt, s/he probably didn't unlock an XT1922-3.
General info:
- Motorola claims that just requesting an unlock code already voids the warranty (boooh!), except for the so called "Developer Editions". This however is a false statement if you bought your device in Europe, even if your bootloader is unlocked and have a custom ROM installed (they are required to follow the EU directives which means they can only withdraw the warranty on this basis when they can proof that the damage is caused by the custom software). I don't know about other regions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This. And there are people saying the EU is a bad thing in general
- When unlocking a Motorola-device, it will be permanently detectible that it has been unlocked, even if you re-lock it afterwards. I've read that they use eFuses for this (clearing a value (possibly outside the partitions) or in some cases physically burn a small fuse). For restoring an eFuse you would need to know its initial value and set it again (generally not possible through known interfaces like USB,...).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup, Motorola, help users void their warranties outside the EU by not letting them relock again. Way to go, guys and gals
Thanks for the insightful post, FeeMale, much appreciated :good:
Atyth said:
Motorola doesn't even provide stock images for the XT1922 on their unlock support page. I assume they simply don't want users to relock their devices
So, giving the person making that statement the benefit of the doubt, s/he probably didn't unlock an XT1922-3.
General info:
This. And there are people saying the EU is a bad thing in general
Yup, Motorola, help users void their warranties outside the EU by not letting them relock again. Way to go, guys and gals
Thanks for the insightful post, FeeMale, much appreciated :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What? Why would they let you "re do" your warranty, when they tell you it's void as soon as you request an unlock code ? You can do all manner of stupid crap to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader.
It allows you to try to flash the wrong firmware, to downgrade sensitive partitions (bootloader, gpt, etc) which would bork security updates and all manner of crap as well as bricking.
And they should allow you to re-lock and indiscriminately let you just warranty and rma your stupid mistakes?
We all wish they would but...
You know the risk when you unlock. They clearly tell you on Motorola's web site, as well as all posts on XDA that show you how to unlock your bootloader.
And you think you got cheated somehow? Geez.
Follow their rules if you want your warranty. End of story.
madbat99 said:
What? Why would they let you "re do" your warranty, when they tell you it's void as soon as you request an unlock code ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did someone mentioned they should do this? (Re/un)locking the bootloader and warranty are two different things.
You can do all manner of stupid crap to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Reality is that in 99%+ of the cases bricking a phone is done by dropping it in water or on hard surfaces,....
It allows you to try to flash the wrong firmware, to downgrade sensitive partitions (bootloader, gpt, etc) which would bork security updates and all manner of crap as well as bricking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In reality mostly the opposit happens. Many users with stock ROM and locked bootloaders are exposed to potential security risks, because they're not getting updates anymore after a while, or none at all (Motorola = 2 years). An unlocked bootloader and optionally a custom ROM can solve this.
And they should allow you to re-lock and indiscriminately let you just warranty and rma your stupid mistakes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As said before: a faulty screen, mic, button, speaker, mainboard,... has generally nothing to do with an unlocked bootloader.
We all wish they would but...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not a wish anymore where I live. Off course, as said before: in the case the custom software broke your phone, you cannot make use of your warranty. I don't think anyone disagreed on that?
You know the risk when you unlock. They clearly tell you on Motorola's web site, as well as all posts on XDA that show you how to unlock your bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Motorola smartphones are quite unique in this matter. My other phone didn't had a locked bootloader by default. I'm more secure with the latest Lineage OS than the older stock ROM. And this doesn't void warranty, even if bought in the US. Laptops/PCs all have unlocked bootloaders. Using custom software shouldn't void warranty. It's not so strange…
And you think you got cheated somehow? Geez.
Follow their rules if you want your warranty. End of story.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is your advice/opinion. Everyone is free to have different ones
FeeMale said:
Did someone mentioned they should do this? (Re/un)locking the bootloader and warranty are two different things.
It's not a wish anymore where I live. Off course, as said before: in the case the custom software broke your phone, you cannot make use of your warranty. I don't think anyone disagreed on that?
Motorola smartphones are quite unique in this matter. My other phone didn't had a locked bootloader by default. I'm more secure with the latest Lineage OS than the older stock ROM. And this doesn't void warranty, even if bought in the US. Laptops/PCs all have unlocked bootloaders. Using custom software shouldn't void warranty. It's not so strange…
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup, fortunately for us, here in the EU consumers still have rights. Motorola can put whatever they want in their policies, but these don't trump our rights. IMO it's a strange - even dangerous - statement that anyone needs to agree to the biddings of a private company to keep their warranty. This warranty is granted us by LAW. Why would anyone argue in the favour of a large private enterprise anyway? We need to be protected from them, not the other way around.
Atyth said:
Yup, fortunately for us, here in the EU consumers still have rights. Motorola can put whatever they want in their policies, but these don't trump our rights. IMO it's a strange - even dangerous - statement that anyone needs to agree to the biddings of a private company to keep their warranty. This warranty is granted us by LAW. Why would anyone argue in the favour of a large private enterprise anyway? We need to be protected from them, not the other way around.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's the same in the US. It falls under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975, which was ruled to apply to smart phones in 2015 by the FTC. We can run 3rd party software all day long and it doesn't void the warranty. You root and the headphone jack craps out? It's covered. You root, run an overclocked kernel and burn up the cpu? Then they'd have to prove that whatever you did, broke the phone in order to void the warranty. If they can't, they gotta replace it. They won't even look into it at that rate. It isn't worth the cost of litigation. It's cheaper to just send you a new one.