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Does anyone know how well the xperia play works with SE's liveview? I heard many people had bluetooth problems if they had less then 50MB free RAM on their phones (Seems weird :/) But I have nearly 250MB of free ram after a few days of normal usage and an update fixed a lot of peoples problems. But still it seems a bit phone specific, did anyone test it with a xperia play?
For those who wonder what liveview is: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/liveviewmicrodisplay
2th oled display for cell phones working over bluetooth, you could wear it as watch for example.
It's supposed to be functional with all 2.x.x Android phones, and Sony Ericsson's website even states it on the compatibility list.
All sources seem to point to "yes" =].
I know it's compatible, but a lot of people had problems with specific phones that where officially supported. They had a lot of random disconnects on certain phones.
yes.... i am using with XP and the disconnection issue is still there with latest firmware update.
got it as well but i dont thing its ram related
I have it, it does work, albeit a little sketchy at times. More often then not it pisses me off, the clock works ok on it, the Facebook almost never updates, forget about text messages showing up. RSS feeds on it quickly pile up and a lot of the apps you find in the market just don't work well. For instance, some of the apps lock the watch into that app only, the only thing to do at that point is a hard reset by holding power for 15 seconds. Hard reset is something you become very use to with this thing. Intermittently it loses connection for no reason at all, sometimes it even refuses to connect, doesn't matter which firmware you have installed.
The battery life on the thing is flat out horrible too, if you're lucky it will make it through the day, but only if you barley use it. I've grown accustomed to shutting off my phones Bluetooth and using it for a watch only, it will keep time but not access the apps without Bluetooth, at least that way I can make it more than a day with the clock function. It does control the music player pretty well, even displays the artist and title on the phone. It has a pretty cool function to dismiss call too, although not to answer them. The interface on the watch itself doesn't lag much, its pretty snappy when it works. Another glaring issue is how hard it is to remove from the watch band to charge the thing, the sucker snaps in there very tightly and the first few times its nearly impossible to remove, after awhile though it will become very lose from constantly inserting it and removing it. I got around this by purchasing a third party watch strap and bending a slight curve in it near the mini usb port, I can actually charge it while its mounted on the watch now.
Overall though, this thing is a gimmicky piece of ****, splendid way to waste money with little satisfaction return. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
I have Liveview and im using it with my Xperia X8
Build
Build Quality is not that good, specially it pops out in the clip every now and then, because of Bad Design.
but you can sort it out by changing the strap or have a customized strap and make your liveview permanent on the clip, so no more accidentally popping out in the clip.
but for me i just used a double adhesive tape at the back and sides of liveview so it will stick to its clip no more problems after that
Connectivity
I have used it on SE Stock Eclair 2.1.1 and even Custom Rom 2.2.1/2.3.4, and updated Liveview and Liveware Application, It's Pretty stable and no Annoying disconnections, and really depends on available RAM you have actually, In my X8 i got a maximum of 80mb Ram after starting the liveview/liveware app to run it, but if my ram goes like 25mb(lowest) then disconnections issues will occur.
that happens only when playing games that are ram hungry.
I used it everyday when i go out usually 8hrs a day and i will have 1 or 2 disconnections, but after i reconnect it it will in 2-3s and its fine again.
Liveview Updates
Messaging/Calls/Miss Calls are instant, but i cannot say the same way with Facebook/Twitter/RSS feeds, but you can update them manually
Plugins
There are alot of available plugins in the market right now, but some simple plugins that you might need is still not available, for me i want a Notes plugin, but no luck at all
Battery Life
It can last up-to 2-3 days of 8hrs a day on a single charge, really depends on how you use it.
When would choose to use this over your phone? it seems to do nothing more than what your phone does?
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I have it, it does work, albeit a little sketchy at times. More often then not it pisses me off, the clock works ok on it, the Facebook almost never updates, forget about text messages showing up. RSS feeds on it quickly pile up and a lot of the apps you find in the market just don't work well. For instance, some of the apps lock the watch into that app only, the only thing to do at that point is a hard reset by holding power for 15 seconds. Hard reset is something you become very use to with this thing. Intermittently it loses connection for no reason at all, sometimes it even refuses to connect, doesn't matter which firmware you have installed.
The battery life on the thing is flat out horrible too, if you're lucky it will make it through the day, but only if you barley use it. I've grown accustomed to shutting off my phones Bluetooth and using it for a watch only, it will keep time but not access the apps without Bluetooth, at least that way I can make it more than a day with the clock function. It does control the music player pretty well, even displays the artist and title on the phone. It has a pretty cool function to dismiss call too, although not to answer them. The interface on the watch itself doesn't lag much, its pretty snappy when it works. Another glaring issue is how hard it is to remove from the watch band to charge the thing, the sucker snaps in there very tightly and the first few times its nearly impossible to remove, after awhile though it will become very lose from constantly inserting it and removing it. I got around this by purchasing a third party watch strap and bending a slight curve in it near the mini usb port, I can actually charge it while its mounted on the watch now.
Overall though, this thing is a gimmicky piece of ****, splendid way to waste money with little satisfaction return. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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couldnt have put it any better myself!
No photos, apologies- my post count is not high enough.
Out of Box:
Usually I wouldn't mention this as anyone can watch an unboxing video online. But using the watch out of the box was quite a bad experience that others seem to be having as well.
Out of the Box the watch has a bit of a charge but will die almost immediately. The problem with this is that charging the watch is a difficult experience. Using the included charger, I was not able to charge the watch faster then it was discharging. To be honest I'm not sure what happened that caused the watch to eventually work but after a half hour of fumbling, the watch updated to something that was not the latest build (I only know because the charging screen was updated) and started charging.
One of the worst setups I've ever had to deal with. Luckily I only have to deal with it once.
On the wrist:
I'm not a watch wearer. I can't stand wearing any kind of jewelry. The watch itself feels very nice (for a watch) and very light to wear. It's not making my wrist sweaty and the feel is good. As a tiny wristed man, I feel the 360 has a good sized face.
No complaints.
Battery Life:
My watch started with the older KKW22 build. I was getting around 5% battery use per hour with moderate use. After updating to KGW42N I get 2-3% battery use per hour. I get ~50 emails a day with a handful of texts and calls. Always on mode is off.
Much bettery battery life then I was expecting. Outlasts my Nexus 5 easily.
TI OMAP SoC:
The Moto360 uses the Droid X's CPU. While disappointing that the watch has such old tech in it, I definitely don't feel any sluggishness. That's not to say the animations aren't occasionally choppy- they are. But with no other Android Wear watch to compare it to I can't say if this is the CPU's fault. What I can say is not the CPU's fault is the speed in which programs open, this seems to be tied to the bluetooth connection quality.
I would prefer new tech but the watch does not feel slow.
Voice Commands (OK Google):
It's passible. Not really any different then my phone and probably because it's using my phone to process the commands. It hasn't been an annoyance going off accidentally.
No complaints.
The display:
I don't like the bezel that cuts the bottom of the circle, but that's not what this section is about. The 205ppi screen is not amazing. I can see the pixels but it's not a showstopper or a distraction. The job is done, text is readable and nothing more. I live in Sunny California, and viewing the screen in daylight is possible but you still want to put your hand over the watch. The light sensor works well enough to change lighting conditions but will occasionally be a bit slow- comparable to any android phone out there.
Not bad, not good. Wish the direct sunlight viewing was better.
Android Wear:
I wish I could turn Google Now voice command off. I wish I could do a lot of things actually. Android Wear is clearly still in early development and it shows. The backgrounds for cards do not have an appropriate resolution and look terrible on a 205ppi screen. Text will overlap other text in some areas, spacing is off, this is a UI nightmare in places. The ethereal feel of all the components as a whole is rough. This is not a refined product. It's functional and that's it.
It's rough and I would not recommend it to the masses.
Moto Specific Software:
I wish I could turn off the pedometer. I wish I could stop the watch from taking my pulse every 5 minutes. The heart monitor also says that I reach my heart activity goal after a few hours of sitting. That said I do like the Moto heart rate app over the stock fit app.
The gesture to turn on the screen works very well. The update to KGW42N seems to have made it a bit more sensitive. There are many times where the watch will turn on when I wasn't trying to get in on but very very few times will it not turn on when I want it to.
It's nice but the mandatory health monitoring is a negative and not very accutrate.
Overall impressions:
It's a very nice watch. Android Wear as a whole has some issues but the Moto360 showcases it very well. I do wish it used an OLED screen so I could always have it on.
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Very nice impressions,thanks for that. You can send me your pictures via pm,and I'll put it here
I agree with your "Out of Box" impression. I'm pretty sure that it's attempting to download and install the update, which is taking more power than the charger is giving it. Since this wasn't likely a scenario that existed during testing, I'm sure it slipped through, but this is definitely something that they need to fix. Maybe they should check for battery level BEFORE they check for updates.
I'm not sure I agree with your "OK Google" section. Well, I don't disagree, but in my experience it's so hit-and-miss that it ever even recognizes the phrase that I've gotten much more used to just tapping the screen. IF it hears the "OK Google," it seems to work fine, but it seems much happier ignoring me. (...and yes, I know it's not supposed to work when dimmed... I'm only talking about when it's not.)
Once I turned off the "Fit" card, I never saw any health-monitoring functions again, unless I wanted to. Have you turned that off? (Just left-swipe the "Steps" card, until you get to settings.)
I also hoped for an OLED screen, hoping for something that worked much more like the Moto-X's active display. This one seems less reactive, and honestly, while it looks nice, especially in bright-ish light, the LCD isn't helping their battery situation, which they really should have seen coming. Motorola has been making some solid phone hardware lately, even though I still wouldn't trade my Nexus 5 in for anything they make. (Wireless charging, Moto... you know... that thing that STILL sets your watch apart? How about we look at putting that in your phones, hmm?)
I don't know. I love my Moto 360. I just kind of expected more.
Thanks,
The rounds of reviews I have seen have tempered my "must-have-now" to I really want the next generation of android wear watches when we get 20 nm chips and the companies learn a few lessons on this generation.
Same boat here. It's passable. The nicest smart WATCH around but may not be the nicest SMART watch around if you get my gist. Out of box same. Horrible experience. I am a really really techie guy and it took multiple tries and multiple charging attempts to get it to sync for the first time and it forced me to charge to 100% before it would update. Ah well. With zero instructions moto must have assumed only nerds would be buying this thing.
I kind of want to return it but at the same time I really like the idea of it. The notifications are cool and I love replying to texts without having to touch my phone.
For the record I was an android user a few years ago, switched for an iPhone (not because I wanted) and after a year and a half I'm now Android.
So I bought Moto 360 and Moto G 2nd (since nexus 5 is out of stock) .
After receiving the package here I was thinking about all the cool stuff I can do with a Moto 360.
I planned to do:
- See what time it is without looking at my phone like a retard.
- See my heartbeat while I was running, I use RunKeeper so it would be cool to see the integration.
- See cool apps with this thing.
- Applying a sort-of pomodoro time technique into my work.
- Seeing all soft of reminders from the so called Google now cards.
- Unlocking my phone without writing a NSA-FBI-CIA security code since I am using a Moto 360 the phone could detect the proximity and unlock only by sliding the lock.
Reality check:
- I see what time it is like a normal dude looking at his wrist.
- My heartbeat? Yeah... give me 10 seconds "Ok google what's show me my heartbeat"
- Cool apps? There's a compass app that show you the north where's west... There's a stopwatch that resets to zero if I try to do anything else.
- Pomodoro technique.. There's an app that sorts of do that but I haven't try it yet (because I'm too busy configuring the 10001 options that each Android has)
- I think I'm seeing this although I've to be at my gym at 8:20 PM, it's 8:21PM so... thank you for the reminder.
- No how I was expecting, the device can still be unlocked if the watch is 5 meters away from the device.
Am I the only one that's getting this problems?
Sorry for any engrish mistakes but I have to run for the gym...
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For the record I was an android user a few years ago, switched for an iPhone (not because I wanted) and after a year and a half I'm now Android.
So I bought Moto 360 and Moto G 2nd (since nexus 5 is out of stock) .
After receiving the package here I was thinking about all the cool stuff I can do with a Moto 360.
I planned to do:
- See what time it is without looking at my phone like a retard.
- See my heartbeat while I was running, I use RunKeeper so it would be cool to see the integration.
- See cool apps with this thing.
- Applying a sort-of pomodoro time technique into my work.
- Seeing all soft of reminders from the so called Google now cards.
- Unlocking my phone without writing a NSA-FBI-CIA security code since I am using a Moto 360 the phone could detect the proximity and unlock only by sliding the lock.
Reality check:
- I see what time it is like a normal dude looking at his wrist.
- My heartbeat? Yeah... give me 10 seconds "Ok google what's show me my heartbeat"
- Cool apps? There's a compass app that show you the north where's west... There's a stopwatch that resets to zero if I try to do anything else.
- Pomodoro technique.. There's an app that sorts of do that but I haven't try it yet (because I'm too busy configuring the 10001 options that each Android has)
- I think I'm seeing this although I've to be at my gym at 8:20 PM, it's 8:21PM so... thank you for the reminder.
- No how I was expecting, the device can still be unlocked if the watch is 5 meters away from the device.
Am I the only one that's getting this problems?
Sorry for any engrish mistakes but I have to run for the gym...
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It looks cool even with a black screen and people will compliment it and ask you about it. That is its best feature. Enjoy.
Droid9 said:
It looks cool even with a black screen and people will compliment it and ask you about it. That is its best feature. Enjoy.
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yeah, don't get me wrong. The hardware is OK! The software is bad designed. Moto had the opportunity to be one of the firsts to have this hardware. When Apple Watch gets out it will be absurd to see, once again, Apple gaining popularity.
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yeah, don't get me wrong. The hardware is OK! The software is bad designed. Moto had the opportunity to be one of the firsts to have this hardware. When Apple Watch gets out it will be absurd to see, once again, Apple gaining popularity.
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Well first of all the hardware is not just OK its by far the best on the market period. Apple's is SQUARE and looks terrible. Only round watches are cool, dumb or smart, so Apple missed the boat big time. Also its not Moto that missed the boat, they didn't really design any of the software, its Google/Android that did. And that will change. But my opinion is who cares? I own the watch and I have to admit its a useless item I never use for anything, not even telling the time. Apple will not succeeded either. It's just not a needed item... kind of like 3D TVs. But its cool to have for now.
Enjoy.
I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
Success100 said:
I pretty much got this watch because it looks sweet. I will say having notifications on your wrist is very handy especially when working out not having to lug around a huge phone and washing dishes..things of that sort. But honestly if it didn't look so sweet and futuristic I would never have bought one. I paid $130 for mine so for me a new time piece along with notifications on my wrist is worth the cost. All this extra unreliable stuff it has I could really care less for. I think android wear still needs work even though it is improving. I'm anxious to see what the next gen moto360 brings though.
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How did you get a Moto 360 for $130? Used?
I tell people this, is it a have to have Necessity? Absolutely not! But I do find it useful.
I always tell people one particular story which to me, highlights the usefulness of this device.
The second day of owning this watch, my phone was upstairs charging, because it accidentally didn't plugged in correctly the night before. I was downstairs doing my end of the month Quickbooks. All of the sudden I hear my phone go off upstairs telling me that I had a new text message. My first thought is "ah crap, I wonder what that message was" .. but then ... Bzzzzzz .. my watched buzzed on my wrist.
I looked at my wrist and I saw I had a text from a girl I know who works at the local grocery store. She said "We have 3 different types of lettuces for 98 cents."
So then I swiped over and said (with my voice) "Thanks for the heads". BOOM! Done. I was like THAT is so sweet!
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I also love the Android wear aware app, that when you leave your phone at home or in a public place, once you get far enough away, your wrist goes nuts telling you you left your phone behind.
One day I was backing out of my driveway. I made it to the street when all of the sudden my wrist started buzzing with a red picture of a phone with a line through it on my watch, telling me I left it inside.
google play music controls
chromecast controls
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you can just double-tap to open voice control. i hate saying "ok google"
google now cards
I'm a heavy user of google services so I find it useful
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How did you get a Moto 360 for $130? Used?
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there was a guy in my area selling a batch of them for $130 a piece. they were probably stolen lol
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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i disagree. like I said sometimes it is much more convenient for instance when I'm working out to not have to whip out my phone to even SEE who it is and if its even worth responding. Or if I leave my phone downstairs by mistake its still nice to get the notification. Plus Like I said, the watch looks sweet so I never feel like I'm being some uber geek by wearing it even its just to get notifications. I can get notifications clear on the opposite side of the gym so I don't have that 10 foot issue. There are also other sms apps like coffee you can get where you don't have to talk to your wrist. that works very well.
At the end of the day if it doesn't work for you just sell it
bulbouscorm said:
google play music controls
chromecast controls
calendar notifications
you can just double-tap to open voice control. i hate saying "ok google"
google now cards
I'm a heavy user of google services so I find it useful
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Responding with voice on chat message from my daughter's is awesome when driving
Responding via voice can actually be more discreet than pulling out the phone. I've found that I can put the watch up near my mouth and talk quietly enough that the person sitting next to me can't hear me. I've responded to messages in movie theaters without anyone knowing, not something I could do with my phone.
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My problem with the notifications is they are still silly because you cant be more than 10 feet away from your phone to get them. 90% of the time my phone is in my pocket and I feel it vibrate first and then the watch 2nd. And I never reply on the watch, I mean come on guys how many of you are really walking around saying "OK Google..." to your watch... its awkward, embarrassing, and just doesn't even work very well in almost all situations because of other noise. The voice thing is almost pure novelty and always will be, for Apple too. And I don't think I would ever want to type on my watch even if I could. This is just not a practical, needed device for 99% of the us and in 99% of the situations.
I guess if it had its own data plan so you could leave your phone at home and just use the watch for everything that might help... but would any of you really want to do that??
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You've jumped in at the wrong point I think - I'll be honest the only reason I have one is because I'm a bit of a geek and wanted to be able to say to my grandkids "I was one of the first..." It'll be interesting to see how the Apple Watch pans out, right now it looks like it's just going to be a fashion accessory (hey isn't that what all Apples are though..) (he types into this macbook).
As for the voice thing, I use it all the time. I get some funny looks but most of the time (especially amongst 30+ year old people) I tend to get looks of amazement and often "did you really just talk to your watch?" type statements. My biggest gripe with it is that if my phone is within listening distance, it too starts to do what I've asked it, which is pretty annoying. Google had the foresight to "mute phone when android wear device is connected" but not to stop listening when I'm talking to my watch..?
Other than that, it's a complete gimmick, all be it a pretty one. I do get more use out of notifications on my wrist than I thought I would, and having something on my person that auto locks/unlocks my mac and phone is pretty sweet, but beyond that... Also, somewhat annoyingly, I have an app that's supposed to buzz if it disconnects from my phone/tablet. Fool be me. I lost my tablet on a train (totally my fault but still)
I've all but given up on the heartbeat sensor too, it really doesn't like sweat.
When the first mobiles out market, long time ago there was no people talking with a mobile on the street and most people feel that this was embarrassing... But today it's normal to call on streets... Same happens with moto 360 in near future say ok Google or tell something to the watch will be normal... We ar pioneers... It is cool to reply a menssage while driving, or make a call while you are driving without taking the phone... It is cool to receive notifications on moto... But if someone feel that moto is not cool much better to sell it than wear it and complain...
About the embrasing stuff my friends are already used to it and find it cool! It is a great convorsatiom starter and just resopning with voice when in class is amazing (phone's are forbidden in class) so why do you care to get straigers looking at you like wuth is he doing? You will never see them again so there is no problem for me.
And it is amazing to withness the growth of a new kind of technologie I love every update to see what they inproved
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Personally I wouldn't want to because the battery isn't big enough to support regular calling and last the rest of the day
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Personally I wouldn't want to because the battery isn't big enough to support regular calling and last the rest of the day
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All i care about is the ability to make calls. Like on the iWatch. Sure I am not gonna use it all the time, nobody does actually, it just comes in handy in certain occasions. I understand your perspective.
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All i care about is the ability to make calls. Like on the iWatch. Sure I am not gonna use it all the time, nobody does actually, it just comes in handy in certain occasions. I understand your perspective.
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
AndroidPolice updated their article with Huaweis response. They essentially did everything but answer the main question although they did hint at adding things that might be useful in the future.
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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I've seen one person use it that I know and its really funny to watch. I can't imagine how much battery it would use and i personally wouldn't bother with it. There's a reason why the LTE/3G smart watches have a battery that's 2x bugger than the standard one
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Calling is is a joke on the apple watch. The battery is a laughable 200mah. Everyone I know that uses one can't even make it though 13hours without it dieing so I can imagine how fast it would die if you made calls. Lets not forget that they display is always off on it too. I can see how you might want to have the feature but for me its not a necessity.
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Same here. At first, I thought calling was cool, but the more I thought about it, why would I want to hear someone's voice out of a small speaker anyways? I can see how it could be useful for driving, but that's what Bluetooth headsets are for, and actually a lot of cars come with Bluetooth
It's interesting that you bring up the calling feature on the Apple Watch. I was wondering if people even use it. If they do, do they even like it? Apple is starting to become gimmicky
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I had an Apple Watch for almost 2 months. To be honest, the battery life on that device was consistent and, in comparison to virtually all Android Wear devices, very good. I was always at 60% battery at 6pm with my start of the day being 6am...and I use my devices a lot.
As for calling, it's an added tool that you use when appropriate. It's a life saver when your hands are dirty or otherwise occupied. A good, random example is when you're cooking. Dirty hands, important call comes in, you use your nose to answer the call = life saver. I'd like to see AW get that option and the main reason I'm going with the Huawei.
Also the call quality is very good. People were always surprised to find out I'm talking to them on the watch. They couldn't tell the difference.
Those are the positives. I've got plenty of negatives if you want to hear them. lol
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I had an Apple Watch for almost 2 months. To be honest, the battery life on that device was consistent and, in comparison to virtually all Android Wear devices, very good. I was always at 60% battery at 6pm with my start of the day being 6am...and I use my devices a lot.
As for calling, it's an added tool that you use when appropriate. It's a life saver when your hands are dirty or otherwise occupied. A good, random example is when you're cooking. Dirty hands, important call comes in, you use your nose to answer the call = life saver. I'd like to see AW get that option and the main reason I'm going with the Huawei.
Also the call quality is very good. People were always surprised to find out I'm talking to them on the watch. They couldn't tell the difference.
Those are the positives. I've got plenty of negatives if you want to hear them. lol
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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Agreed, that's what options are for. These devices have to fit in our daily workflow and no two people have the same. To be honest, that's the main reason why I dumped the Apple Watch, it wanted me to follow Apple's workflow and not my own. AW affords me options and speed. Apple Watch slowed me down.
As for the screen off vs battery it would be interesting to compare with the Huawei. My comparisons come from two months of Apple Watch vs my Moto 360 and my current daily driver Sony Smartwatch 3. The Moto had screen off, Sony has ambient on. Apple's Tilt-to-Wake was far superior to any of my Android Wears, so screen off was actually never a UI issue.
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Agreed, that's what options are for. These devices have to fit in our daily workflow and no two people have the same. To be honest, that's the main reason why I dumped the Apple Watch, it wanted me to follow Apple's workflow and not my own. AW affords me options and speed. Apple Watch slowed me down.
As for the screen off vs battery it would be interesting to compare with the Huawei. My comparisons come from two months of Apple Watch vs my Moto 360 and my current daily driver Sony Smartwatch 3. The Moto had screen off, Sony has ambient on. Apple's Tilt-to-Wake was far superior to any of my Android Wears, so screen off was actually never a UI issue.
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I'll try to test it out sometime this week, if I forget send me a messgae. I'm a full-time college student so I tend to forget the little things like testing it out.
I'm obviously an Android person because Apple bothers me but I respect everyone's choice for mobile devices. Its interesting to see your take on it since you have owned both of them.
Now there are some smart watches can be used to make a phone call already.But I don't think it's a real need calling via a watch,considering the smart watch is much smaller than a phone,if it' s designed too big,there is not convenience and comfort anylonger.
While everyone is...uh..."excited"...about the possibilities of the speaker being used for making phone calls, I would be interested in the speaker for other reasons. Remember, that Android Wear has the ability to Mute phone alerts & calls. So what would be nice in the future:
- more discreet, however, audio based alerts
- the ability to start audio alerts if haptic alerts aren't responded to.
- The ability for an audio alarm on the watch (such as when it's on your nightstand at night)
- and...of course...surround sound when I play the Doom port for Android Wear.
OK...I might be kidding about that last one...
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While everyone is...uh..."excited"...about the possibilities of the speaker being used for making phone calls, I would be interested in the speaker for other reasons. Remember, that Android Wear has the ability to Mute phone alerts & calls. So what would be nice in the future:
- more discreet, however, audio based alerts
- the ability to start audio alerts if haptic alerts aren't responded to.
- The ability for an audio alarm on the watch (such as when it's on your nightstand at night)
- and...of course...surround sound when I play the Doom port for Android Wear.
OK...I might be kidding about that last one...
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Couldn't agree more!
It seems odd that people are vocally against the phone call option. The whole point of the watch is to not have to pull out their "phone" lol.
I actually returned my urbane after three days because the lack of phone support, something I didn't even think of when buying a smart watch but became a glaring omission during real life usage (cooking/toddler/car/etc).
Once the Apple watch released it was simply a matter of when, not if. I'm pretty stoked that we won't have to wait for 3rd gen hardware to get it.
If the manufacture can fix the battery issue or it will be hard to make a call for long time.
I use (mini dialer) for phone calls and (wear messenger) for texting on watch. Both are available on google play and work great.
I'm more excited to have the speaker for automated tasker randomness. I currently have a tasker profile where if I say to my watch, "Ok Google, Show me what you can do." My phone's speaker starts talking, "Okay, this is what i can do, I can tell you the time, show your notifications, reply to messages and hangup on your wife bla bla bla.." I would love to have that reply on my watch directly.
I also have another fun one where if someone is telling me a bogus story/lying I click an icon and "Why you always lyin" plays on my phone.
Think of the fun possibilities!
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The display is always off so I'll take the battery life you stated with a grain of salt. If I use the Huawei with the display off all day I'm sure it will be at 70-80% at he end of the day which I might test for fun this week.
Otherwise I still personally wouldn't use my watch it make calls because I don't use speaker phone ever so why use it on a watch? I understand your reason for wanting it but I would rather have it mimic my phone for a notification sound than take a call. I guess we will see what happens in due time.
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I bought my watch Monday lunchtime. Charged it to 100% and used the screen always on function as it's on by default until Tuesday morning. When I went to bed Tuesday night around 10.30pm the watch still had like 14% battery left. That's around 36 hours of playing with it and trying out faces and apps. I was quite surprised.
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I bought my watch Monday lunchtime. Charged it to 100% and used the screen always on function as it's on by default until Tuesday morning. When I went to bed Tuesday night around 10.30pm the watch still had like 14% battery left. That's around 36 hours of playing with it and trying out faces and apps. I was quite surprised.
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Yeah I usually get 1-2 days of usage which is good enough for me. I am running the latest update that got pushed out without any issues. If seems to fix the Bluetooth bug and some other ones which is a good thing. The Huawei watch is underated especially when you look at the Moto 360 gen 2 which sucks.
So I've had my Moto 360 for about 4 months or so now and wanted to just say a bit about my experiences with it.
The battery life for me at first was a bit of a problem and it was touch and go if I could go a full day. I don't know if this is because I was fiddling with it so much or if later versions of android wear optimised the battery better, but now I could probably go a couple of days without charging.
I find the standard launcher on android wear quite cumbersome and pants. I've since installed Android Mini Wear which is infinitely better. Unfortunately this doesn't replace the stock launcher but works side by side to it, so you can sometimes end up swiping one way and launching Mini Wear and then swiping the other way and getting the stock launcher, then you have to close both to get back to the main watch screen, bit of a pain. But the devs for Mini Wear say they are working on a way you'll be able to press a small button that shows up on the watch face to launch the full Mini Wear app draw (they currently have this feature but it launches a cut down version of Mini Wear).
A few things I'd love to be able to do with android wear is be able to adjust the timeout screen duration, sometimes it flicks off before I can do what I need to. Also being able to adjust vibrate duration wouldnt go a miss either.
Lastly I've started getting a pain in my wrist, I'm hoping this is unrelated to my watch but I'd be interested to know if any other users get it? Maybe the heart rate monitor constantly reading my pulse could be causing this? Shame you can't stop this from happening as well.
To adjust screen timeout duration try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phonephreak.extendedlight
And I use my watch now for 2 Month and don't have any pain in the wrist
I see some people wear a watch very tight, I myself a personal preference always wear it abit loose like jewelry or a bracelet, I've worn Swatch's for years so maybe I'm just use to it. Never pain.
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I've been wearing it since the week it came out. No pains in my wrist from it. I wore it tight with the leather band, and just tight enough that I can't fit my pinky with the metal band. My back is cracked and the plastic pieces that adapt the metal band in are broken and missing pieces, but the screen is pristine after a year, the battery still lasts a whole day, and it's never felt sluggish to me. I don't use a launcher - I don't see the need for one. I pretty much don't use apps - unless it's a card, the face switcher or stopwatch/timer I don't use it.
I love my 360. The 360 V2 is a slight incremental upgrade really offering nothing over the 360 except a much better placement of the crown and the band lugs. I won't be giving up my original 360 for a while.
Though I know my next watch WILL be a Moto watch, because nobody else does wireless charging and I refuse to give it up.
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I find the standard launcher on android wear quite cumbersome and pants.
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Best review quote of the day. Bravo! hah.
When I first got my 360 the battery life sucked. For an unrelated issue I had to reset the watch, and decided to click "No" to the Google Fit permissions during setup. This has drastically improved my battery life. I'll easily get to the end of the day with more than 50% battery, and that's taking the watch off the charging cradle at 6:40am. So, pretty good! And, the funny thing is, it's the Moto Fit app that's checking your heart rate in the background, not the Google Fit app. So, even with Moto Fit firing up the heart rate sensor all day the battery life is still awesome. Seems like some poor optimisation of the Google Fit app to me. And, on that note, I haven't noticed any pain in my wrist at all and I've been wearing it every day for about two months now. Maybe its an RSI from playing with the watch too much hah
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Best review quote of the day. Bravo! hah.
When I first got my 360 the battery life sucked. For an unrelated issue I had to reset the watch, and decided to click "No" to the Google Fit permissions during setup. This has drastically improved my battery life. I'll easily get to the end of the day with more than 50% battery, and that's taking the watch off the charging cradle at 6:40am. So, pretty good! And, the funny thing is, it's the Moto Fit app that's checking your heart rate in the background, not the Google Fit app. So, even with Moto Fit firing up the heart rate sensor all day the battery life is still awesome. Seems like some poor optimisation of the Google Fit app to me. And, on that note, I haven't noticed any pain in my wrist at all and I've been wearing it every day for about two months now. Maybe its an RSI from playing with the watch too much hah
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just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
Takiyon said:
just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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Man What a difference... Turn all that **** off and the watch will last for 2 days. Dont need it anyway..
Takiyon said:
just got a 360 with 5.1.1 and battery life does suck indeed. Going to deny G-Fit and see what happens, I am hoping for a drastic battery improvement at least 2 days. Right now I can barely get one.
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I killed google fit, turned off the gestures and ambient mode and I can squeeze out 48hrs between charges.
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Man What a difference... Turn all that **** off and the watch will last for 2 days. Dont need it anyway..
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Hah, glad it made a difference! Genuinely surprised how much impact Google Fit has, makes an amazing device seem like junk when it's running
Heyo! Looking to get into the smartwatch market this holiday and I figured a $99 moto 360 (if I can find them in stock) would be a nice way to do that. So, is this still a good buy in 2015? I have read the OMAP processor is slow and ancient but, does it get the job done on this watch?
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Heyo! Looking to get into the smartwatch market this holiday and I figured a $99 moto 360 (if I can find them in stock) would be a nice way to do that. So, is this still a good buy in 2015? I have read the OMAP processor is slow and ancient but, does it get the job done on this watch?
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I also have this doubt.
I'll be honest, I got the first gen 360 a few weeks ago because of a credit from Sprint and really wish I would've just put a few more dollars with it and got the Huawei watch.
For $99 you can't really go wrong. Yeah the processor might be a bit long in the tooth, but I don't really have any issues with mine. Plus the 2nd Gen costs loads more and doesn't really add any new functionality apart from looks.
I just find having mine really convenient, with my job I can't be looking at my phone all the time, so its perfect for me. I also find the ability to control music on my phone with my watch very handy when commuting. I'm now about to purchase a set of bluetooth headphones so I can listen to music stored on my watch. I'm in the minority who actually use Google Fit (I charge my phone every night but usually have around 40%-50% of battery left). Its just had strength training incorporated into it, so it can count how many sit ups, press ups or squats your doing, which is useful.
Even better now with the 6.0.1 update! Great value.