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my xdalls is dead ,i cannot hard or soft reset it,an orange light comes on when i put it in the cradle,the screen is black and says serial at the top and v 2.08 at the bottom ,could someone help me please ,i have read as much as i can but nothing seems to work tia
Use the SEARCH engine...there are several other posts like yours!
thanks
thanks for your time,it would be nice if you advised me what to search for ?among the many posts,after several diferent searches i am still empty handed ,being a newbie simply suggesting to search wasnt very helpful,thanks anyway
Try here to start:-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelFAQ
That page is full of links to help you out.
And then try here:-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted
If you don't understand it don't do it but its pretty straight forward.
People will help if you try things from there and then explain what is happening.
thanks for your help but nothing works
thank you so much for your reply,at least you have tried to adress my problem rather than just telling me to search (which i have already done)
I have previously checked out the posts you directed me to and either i am stupid and dont understand or my problem is different?Anyway what i see my problema as being is that i cannot perform a hard or soft reset by the usual methods ,also active sync dosnt pick up my device so i cannot install any operating system including my original version,i am trying not to believe that i have ruined my device because as a disabled pensioner i rely so much on it and cannot afford to replace it,i have spent hours aquiering the software that i need to help me with my disability and time spent in hospitalsd and waiting rooms,once again thank you for giving me some hope and i would appreciate any further advice
samuraijack said:
thank you so much for your reply,at least you have tried to adress my problem rather than just telling me to search (which i have already done)
I have previously checked out the posts you directed me to and either i am stupid and dont understand or my problem is different?Anyway what i see my problema as being is that i cannot perform a hard or soft reset by the usual methods ,also active sync dosnt pick up my device so i cannot install any operating system including my original version,i am trying not to believe that i have ruined my device because as a disabled pensioner i rely so much on it and cannot afford to replace it,i have spent hours aquiering the software that i need to help me with my disability and time spent in hospitalsd and waiting rooms,once again thank you for giving me some hope and i would appreciate any further advice
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Unfortunately i do not have a blue angel so my attempts to help are limited but what i would suggest is to fully charge the pda overnight and then remove the battery for ten-twenty mins.
Then try and put it in bootloader mode (after you have reinserted the battery and turned it on).
If you can get this far attatch it to your usb (let any drivers install on their own on pc) and flash the same rom the handset came with.
Hope it helps
actually you are "IN" the bootloader mode... it's the UI for flashing.
Serial... means your USB cable isnt detecting any PC connection.
Orange led means you're phone is charging, that's a good sign.
try charging it for a long time and wait if it becomes green.
then if and when your battery is full...
take your battery out for at least 30-40 mins,
if your backup battery is old... and you know how fast it could drain out
you can use that time instead of the 30-40 mins...
put the battery back...
press and hold the record button + the power button...
now stick the reset.
use a separate synch cable.
then flash your phone again.
if that doesnt work...
search for MTTY...
i dont know the particulars but i think you'll find it somehow
Good luck!
1. Download mtty v1.42 from http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/mtty1.42.rar
2. Stop ActiveSync, by Task Manager (press Ctrl + Alt + Delete) kill two processes rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe
3. put your device into Bootloader Mode by pressing Power + Record Button and Soft Reset.
4. Run mtty (from downloaded) Choose WCEUSBSH001 (If you only see COM 1 and COM 2, try unplugging the USB and replugging it)
5. type "set 14 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
6. type "task 28" to get your device formatted (only do this is if you dont mind losing all data on the BA)
7. type "task 0" to ask your device reboot
8. take the device out of the cradle, and manually reset it if it does not do that already.
good luck.
Thanks ,but no Luck
Thanks for your reply,but i cannot Choose WCEUSBSH001 when Run mtty.exe,i can choose Com 3 but when i type in your instructions it tells me to "Please input command name in menu Auto first" ARRGGGHHH! i am going crazt,but i realy appreciate yout time and effprt to my problem,it is wonderful to have some hope of getting it up and running as i am so lost without it,once again any help or suggestions appreciated
did you kill both process in task manager?
Have you tried to unplug the device wait ten seconds and then plug it back in?
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i dont find the rapimgr.exe process running ,could that be the problem? thanks again ,really appreciate your time and efforts
kinda new to this myself mate but had a similar problem recently.
firstly, it sounds like your OS has gone....the screen you can see basically means there is nothing to 'boot' to.
'serial' should change to 'usb' once plugged into the pc before you can start active sync and reloading an OS.
try, if possible, a different usb port if that fails is there any chance you could borrow another cradle to check that the usb side is ok?.
another thing i did not see mentioned (may have missed it), if you push power + soft reset together and as soon as you see the boot loader press record + camera at the same time, if this works it will show 3 options, first one should remain 'no' the next 2 should be changed to 'yes', (record moves down the options, camera changes the setting) then press the 'mail' button.
this should clear the BA (losing any saved data etc) but might 'wake it up' so the pc will recognise it again and allow you to reload.
if it is showing 'serial' and charging then i doubt it is broken beyond repair, just one of those annoying problems that comes with technology.
i upgraded to WM6 with no problem, it was as i tried to downgrade back to 2003 i got my problems, it appeared as if i had wrecked my BA but re-read all help/instructions a few times and managed to get it sorted, dont give up hope, just keep going over it.....i am sure you will get there, good luck.
Given up
thanks for all your help ,after trying so many combinations ,i have given upo and sent it in to be repaired,i was wondering however if it is worth upgrading it to 6? and what the correct rom version is ,any help here would be apreciated ,and once again thanks for your time
Anyone ever have the volume up/down buttons on the side of the phone stop functioning correctly?
Looks like the buttons themselves still work (they now scroll up/down on pages instead of adjusting volume up/down). Any suggestions?
I'm running Energy Rom sense 2.5, cookie hometab 1.6 and HDwalls with cookie patch.
Thanks
Didy ou install the keyboard fix after installing the energy ROM?
Thanks for the response. No - was not aware of one. I can check out the energy thread for it.
Odd though because this just happened yesterday (volume sidebar was working fine before then) and ive been running the rom for like two weeks now. Only new thing I did yesterday was install transparent tabs, a cookie tab fix and new wallpaper thru HD Wall.
Matt
stenuine said:
Thanks for the response. No - was not aware of one. I can check out the energy thread for it.
Odd though because this just happened yesterday (volume sidebar was working fine before then) and ive been running the rom for like two weeks now. Only new thing I did yesterday was install transparent tabs, a cookie tab fix and new wallpaper thru HD Wall.
Matt
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I know there are reg edits available in cab form that change the vol up/down buttons into up/down scroll buttons. Nothing in your list would be likely to include that, but it's possible...that's the only thing I can think of that would change their behavior like that.
Thanks. I might just look to isolate those two areas and try to set back. I also have that zoombar app (to use for other purposes) but dont think that would affect it, plus I didnt have the problem until days after i installed.
Tried soft/hard reset as well with no avail.
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I know there are reg edits available in cab form that change the vol up/down buttons into up/down scroll buttons. Nothing in your list would be likely to include that, but it's possible...that's the only thing I can think of that would change their behavior like that.
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stenuine said:
Thanks. I might just look to isolate those two areas and try to set back. I also have that zoombar app (to use for other purposes) but dont think that would affect it, plus I didnt have the problem until days after i installed.
Tried soft/hard reset as well with no avail.
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I'm guessing you mean just a soft-reset (rebooting)..? A hard-reset is where you wipe the memory clean putting everything in the OS back to stock settings (or back to the fresh version of a custom ROM, if you've flashed one on to your device). If you've hard-reset and this problem still persisted, then you can pretty much rule out software as a cause...
Yes, my approach would be to just start uninstalling stuff in reverse order, soft-resetting and testing after each item removed.
Yep - definitely meant soft reset. I'll try your advice. Thanks so much.
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I'm guessing you mean just a soft-reset (rebooting)..? A hard-reset is where you wipe the memory clean putting everything in the OS back to stock settings (or back to the fresh version of a custom ROM, if you've flashed one on to your device). If you've hard-reset and this problem still persisted, then you can pretty much rule out software as a cause...
Yes, my approach would be to just start uninstalling stuff in reverse order, soft-resetting and testing after each item removed.
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Yep - definitely meant soft reset. I'll try your advice. Thanks so much.
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No problem! Good luck, and let us know what you find
Hi SirPhunk
Deleted everything that I'd installed since the problem occured and still no luck :-/. Buttons on side of phone still scrolling up/down, instead of adjusting volume.
I also tried the Sprint keyboard fix for Energy roms, but no luck there as well. Any other ideas? Do you happen to know if theres a way to search for the value in my registry?
Thanks again
If you want to go searching in your resgistry for it, PHM_Regedit and Total Commander can both search for specific keys...I would just try the string "volbutton" or even just "volb*", something like that.
Now, even though you didn't see the issue immediately when you installed it, I think there's still a possibility that the zoombar app could be the culprit....I would try uninstalling that too (if you haven't already) before you start doing the extra work.
EDIT: It also might be easiest to just install Rhodium Keyboard Controller (attached below) and use it to manually map them back to stock function (don't ask me why I didn't think of that in the first place ). In fact, if you do that, try uninstalling RKC right after doing that mapping, and I'll bet they return to their stock function after that even without the app being needed anymore.
Sir Phunk, Thank you for taking the time to investigate and the response, Sir Phunk. I went ahead and dloaded the cab to my storage card, but cant seem to find the files in order to run and edit the keys manually. Sorry if this is a stupid question - I'm still learning the ins n' outs. Maybe this will help me fully install programs that may be hanging around (even though I went to the "remove programs" section and deleted them).
Please advise if you have a chance. Again, my apologies as I am still learning. Thank you again.
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Sir Phunk, Thank you for taking the time to investigate and the response, Sir Phunk. I went ahead and dloaded the cab to my storage card, but cant seem to find the files in order to run and edit the keys manually. Sorry if this is a stupid question - I'm still learning the ins n' outs. Maybe this will help me fully install programs that may be hanging around (even though I went to the "remove programs" section and deleted them).
Please advise if you have a chance. Again, my apologies as I am still learning. Thank you again.
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Will do...full instructions coming first thing in the morning
Hey stenuine, let's see if we can get this working for you...
First, I'm again guilty of not explaining things well enough (seriously), my apologies. That file I posted earlier is actually a .zip file, with 2 .cab files inside...it'll be easiest if you download it to your PC desktop, unzip the 2 files out of there, and then copy them over to the SD card.
[TIP: I would strongly recommend creating a "cabs" folder at the root-level of your storage card, and using that to retain any cabs that you run and know that work, even if you're not still using them at the moment. That way, you'll always have easy access to any of them, even through flashes and hard-resets]
The first file in that .zip is the sdkcerts cab, run that one first. It allows your phone to use many of the homebrewed apps and tweaks found here at xda. After that one's installed (do a soft-reset again if the install doesn't force that anyway, always a good habit), then you can just run the keyboard controller cab to install it. Once you have the app installed, the icon to run it is found in:
Settings -> All Settings -> System (it will say "Keyboard Config").
Once you get it installed ok, here's how to use it to get your key's mapped the way you want:
1. When you first open the app, you'll see what's in the first screenshot below(pretty much a blank screen).
2. Click "Menu" in the bottom right
3. Click "Add key" from the menu
4. You'll see the dialog in the 2nd screenshot below, go ahead and tap the volume-up button
5. Now you'll see what's in the 3rd screenshot below, the setup window. There's a lot of stuff there, but we'll only need some of it for this. First, in the "Key mode" drop-down list, choose "Direct key mapping"
6. Now you see what's in the 4th screenshot. Now what you need to do is click the "Key" dropdown list, and scroll all the way down to pick "117 F6-VOL UP"...if you did all that right, it should look like the 5th screenshot.
7. Click "Ok" in the bottom left of the screen. Now, you should be back to the very first screen you saw, but now with the mapping you just created (screenshot 6).
8. VERY IMPORTANT...at this point you must remember to hit "Update config" in the bottom left, or the work you just did won't have any effect. It'll confirm for you that it updated, and that's it! You just mapped one of the volume buttons
9. Now, follow steps 2-9 again, with the following exceptions:
Step 4 - tap the volume down button this time
Step 6 - pick "118 F7-VOL DOWN"
As long as you did all that, and hit "update config" after each one, you should now be able to close the app and have normal volume-button operation.
As you noticed there's a lot of versatility in this little app, so if that still doesn't work for you, there's other ways we can try...this is just the most direct and should work just fine.
Hey SirPhunk,
Thanks for your time and the very detailed breakdown. I was able to install the app and run it, but no luck re-assigning the buttons :-/. Tried re-assigning vol-up button to vol-up and vol-down button to vol-down, but no change. To test, I also re-assigned the "up" key on my flip-out keyboard to "volume-up" and still no dice. Made sure to save the registry after each change and tried with and w/o soft resets after the changes. The vol-up and vol-down buttons still just scroll up/down on the screen and up button on keybard still just scrolls up as well.
I saw what you meant about other functions for this program, just not sure which to try next in order to fix this issue. Thank you again.
bumping my post...
i just ended up doin a hard reset. My best guess is it could have been the zoombar scroller v2 app that screwed with the settings.
hello all...
ive been away from kaiser community a long time because i got an desire...
but i have my kaiser here ehehe
so i decided to see how android for kaiser is...
and i see theres a lot of progress in this!!
but my question is... after this time i dont understand how do i run it...
i see now there is and androidinstall.tgz and an andboot folder...
i want to run it with haret.. dont want to flash it....
can anyone point me to a tutorial for this new metod ?
i have this so far..
sdcard/andboot/androidinstall.tar
sdcard/andboot/default.txt
sdcard/andboot/haret.exe
sdcard/andboot/initrd.gz
sdcard/andboot/zImage
and when i run haret... it says that doenst find the system image...
can anyone help me to update my knowledge ?
thanks
hold the center button when it tells you then hit install system.
Same problem here. I tried the above suggestion but it doesn't load any menu for me when I do that.
Any other suggestions? Thanks.
If holding the dpad button does not work, try pressing the centre of the screen, ( think of it like a giant dpad, it does work, in fact it is my usual method after too many times of pressing the dpad wrong).
The reason so many people have trouble with this is that if you hit another key when pressing the dpad button it will not enter the install menu, and it is easy to do that if you are a bit nervous or in a hurry to press before the pause ends.
I have large fingers, and often miss the keys, and believe me I have a lot of experience in this, so now I use the screen method instead.
also make sure you are only hitting the button when it asks, if you hold before it asks then it won't go to the menu.
First of all - I am a Sprint customer with the Latest Htc Rom -stock
List of problems and actions taken.
Problems
Soft reset reboots with phone in Airplane mode.
When the end key is pushed not long pressed but pushed it puts phone into Airplane mode.
Battery run time is not about half or even less than it was before.
Actions taken
Removed battery for about 10 minutes and tried a hard reset. Got to the screen where you are supposed to hit volumn up to restore to original and well the volumn up button gets pressed but nothing happens. So after waiting for about 15 minutes I do a soft reset to get back to the HTC Sense screen (today screen). I take the phone out of Airplane mode cause from reset. I hit the volumn up button and it works fine. I tap the end key and it puts me back in Airplane mode.
So I reflash stock rom back in that by the way wouldn't go until I unlocked the phone with HardSPL. Apon first reboot it still boots with phone shutting down into Airplane mode. Turn phone back on then turn power off. Take battery out. Replace battery. While holding Talk ad End buttons I tap power on for hard reset. Goes through try colored screen then to the volumn up option screen. I tap volumn up and nothing still happens.
I'm looking at Task 29 but I am worried about the volumn button not working.
Anyone have any ideas on what direction to take. Thank you
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First of all - I am a Sprint customer with the Latest Htc Rom -stock
List of problems and actions taken.
Problems
Soft reset reboots with phone in Airplane mode.
When the end key is pushed not long pressed but pushed it puts phone into Airplane mode.
Battery run time is not about half or even less than it was before.
Actions taken
Removed battery for about 10 minutes and tried a hard reset. Got to the screen where you are supposed to hit volumn up to restore to original and well the volumn up button gets pressed but nothing happens. So after waiting for about 15 minutes I do a soft reset to get back to the HTC Sense screen (today screen). I take the phone out of Airplane mode cause from reset. I hit the volumn up button and it works fine. I tap the end key and it puts me back in Airplane mode.
So I reflash stock rom back in that by the way wouldn't go until I unlocked the phone with HardSPL. Apon first reboot it still boots with phone shutting down into Airplane mode. Turn phone back on then turn power off. Take battery out. Replace battery. While holding Talk ad End buttons I tap power on for hard reset. Goes through try colored screen then to the volumn up option screen. I tap volumn up and nothing still happens.
I'm looking at Task 29 but I am worried about the volumn button not working.
Anyone have any ideas on what direction to take. Thank you
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Which model is your device? You can find the model number above the barcode that is under your battery. It will be in the form of RHODxxx where "xxx" is a three digit number. From here, I'll be able to help you a bit better once I know which model you are using.
Thank you for the reply. The model# is M8RHOD400. Since my first post I have tried flashing other Roms and I think it was the Sharkie Rom that actually said it could find the end key file. Other than that all the other Roms I tried pretty much do the same. When end key is tapped it shut phone off. Plus the volumn up still doesn't work at the hard reset state. It works normal otherwise but when I try to hard reset it will not go past the first screen that says press vol. up to reset. Thanks again so far.
Hootyhoo said:
Thank you for the reply. The model# is M8RHOD400. Since my first post I have tried flashing other Roms and I think it was the Sharkie Rom that actually said it could find the end key file. Other than that all the other Roms I tried pretty much do the same. When end key is tapped it shut phone off. Plus the volumn up still doesn't work at the hard reset state. It works normal otherwise but when I try to hard reset it will not go past the first screen that says press vol. up to reset. Thanks again so far.
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Ok, so the first thing we need to test for is hardware fault. To do this, you will need to perform a task29 and then flash the latest Sprint ROM. After that, try to see if you have the same problems. Please do not install anything while testing. If it works fine like this, then we will need to do some specific testing on the custom ROMs to narrow down the cause.
Things have changed a bit. Long morning. I tried flashing a few ROMs to see if any would fix it. I know a feeble attempt. Well one went bad and never got past the splash screen when it went to restart. Won't connect to ActiveSync. So I tried reflashing from SD card. and I get to
RHODIMG.nbh
OS -
Press Power button
to start update image
Press VolDn button
to cancel update image
The problem is I press power button and nothing happens. I press any buttons and nothing happens. I pulled the battery and reinstalled it and got the same again. I tried to run Task 29 but how. Won't load. Tried renaming rbh file but got the same results as above. I need a way to hard reset without buttons and its obvious that nothing working outside of windows. I'm lost.
Hootyhoo said:
Things have changed a bit. Long morning. I tried flashing a few ROMs to see if any would fix it. I know a feeble attempt. Well one went bad and never got past the splash screen when it went to restart. Won't connect to ActiveSync. So I tried reflashing from SD card. and I get to
RHODIMG.nbh
OS -
Press Power button
to start update image
Press VolDn button
to cancel update image
The problem is I press power button and nothing happens. I press any buttons and nothing happens. I pulled the battery and reinstalled it and got the same again. I tried to run Task 29 but how. Won't load. Tried renaming rbh file but got the same results as above. I need a way to hard reset without buttons and its obvious that nothing working outside of windows. I'm lost.
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First of all, you should stop trying to update with the SD card. That's the problem you're having, so we need to try something different. Flash it via USB. You don't need an Activesync connection. It just needs to change from SERIAL to USB at the bottom of the bootloader screen. Once that happens, simply run the RUU and it will flash to your device. Do task29 first. Then do the stock Sprint ROM. Task29 cannot be flashed via SD anyway. The NBH file in task29 is a filler file. It's the actual RUU in it that is modified to perform the wipe.
So, let's try this again.
1. Get into the bootloader by holding voldown while turning the device on.
2. Plug it in to a USB port on your PC.
3. Once the text at the bottom of the screen changes from SERIAL to USB, begin running the task29 RUU.
4. Once the progress bar gets to 99% on the task29 flash, hold the voldown button again and await the restart.
5. Once it restarts into the bootloader and the text changes again, begin flashing the latest Sprint ROM.
6. Allow the ROM to boot up all the way and settle down, then give it one soft reset.
7. When it comes back again, go ahead and test it out to see if your problems persist.
8. Report back here with the results, and we'll move on from this step.
Task 29 doesnt seem to working because it reboots back to the last rom. Everything is still there. I really don't think that any of the hardware buttons work outside of working in the OS and at startup. IE volumn works when unit is on or when putting unit into bootloader mode but Volumn button does not work when trying to do a hard reset or a Task 29. Power button turns on unit, turns off unit, puts into bootloader mode, starts hardreset. I have loaded a Custom Rom just because maybe with the X button on the bottom and bigger it might be easier. I'm all ears from here on out. Its seems I need to clear ROM or Cmos without button usage. I don't know if that makes any sense to you but like I said I'm all ears on what to do now. Thanks for the little lesson on flashing without Activesync. Feeling kinda stupid about that one. Thanks for the help so far.
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Task 29 doesnt seem to working because it reboots back to the last rom. Everything is still there. I really don't think that any of the hardware buttons work outside of working in the OS and at startup. IE volumn works when unit is on or when putting unit into bootloader mode but Volumn button does not work when trying to do a hard reset or a Task 29. Power button turns on unit, turns off unit, puts into bootloader mode, starts hardreset. I have loaded a Custom Rom just because maybe with the X button on the bottom and bigger it might be easier. I'm all ears from here on out. Its seems I need to clear ROM or Cmos without button usage. I don't know if that makes any sense to you but like I said I'm all ears on what to do now. Thanks for the little lesson on flashing without Activesync. Feeling kinda stupid about that one. Thanks for the help so far.
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I don't know where you got your task29 utility from, but you cannot run it from SD. It HAS to be used with the RUU that came with it. It is the modified RUU that runs the task29 function. Just to eliminate the confusion, I'm uploading a modified RUU to this post that is very simple to use. Extract it from the archive and follow these instructions.
1. Connect the device (in bootloader) to your PC and wait for USB to show in the bootloader.
2. Run the RhodiumWAdvancedRUU.exe
3. Select the third radio button that says "Perform task29 only."
4. Uncheck the box that says "Restart utility when task29 completed."
5. Hit Next and keep going through it until it flashes.
6. Once the progress bar gets to 99%, hold your voldown button and wait for the reboot.
7. Once you are back into the bootloader, wait for USB to show up on the screen again and then flash the stock ROM.
8. Once the flash is complete, allow it to boot once and settle, then soft reset.
9. Once it restarts, test the problems again.
10. If the problems persist, we can move on from here.
Note: If you want to make sure that the task29 utility worked, feel free to try and boot it after performing the task29 and see how far it gets. If it gets stuck at the bootscreen, then you know it worked. Simply pull the battery, or hit the reset button, and power it back on while holding voldown to return to the bootloader and continue with step 7.
I cannot find the uploaded file that you sent, but also I am not trying to run the Task 29 file from SD card. I'm trying from the comp but like I said, when in any mode other than Windows, I really believe none of the buttons work. Volumn down at 99%. Volumn up on a hardreset. The buttons work to get me into the various mode either from Windows or at startup, but once into the special modes I think I don't get any buttons. That and the fact that the only thing the endkey button does in turn phone on and off but doesnt end anything is peculiar to a person like me. Anyways I didn't get your Task 29 file yet.
Thanks again
Hootyhoo said:
I cannot find the uploaded file that you sent, but also I am not trying to run the Task 29 file from SD card. I'm trying from the comp but like I said, when in any mode other than Windows, I really believe none of the buttons work. Volumn down at 99%. Volumn up on a hardreset. The buttons work to get me into the various mode either from Windows or at startup, but once into the special modes I think I don't get any buttons. That and the fact that the only thing the endkey button does in turn phone on and off but doesnt end anything is peculiar to a person like me. Anyways I didn't get your Task 29 file yet.
Thanks again
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That's because I forgot to upload it. Sorry. here it is.
I know you feel that way, but there are a few things we can try. We just need to go step by step to rule things out. Please trust me on this. I'm trying to keep from saying that your phone is having hardware troubles, because I think it is fixable as it is now. We just have a certain order to attack it from.
I do appreciate the help I have always gotten from this site and thank you. The worries that I have are actually getting any buttons to work when doing any work on the phone outside of the windows format. I noticed that at 99% I am to tap the vol. dw button and I don't think thats gonna work. From my desktop computer exsperience that I have I know there is actually 3 modes happening that work in conjunction with one another. CMOS MSDOS and Windows. I don't think its a windows issure and I don't know what else there is in these phones that work, but I will try this program and thank you again. I will let you know where I at with it in a few.
Hootyhoo said:
I do appreciate the help I have always gotten from this site and thank you. The worries that I have are actually getting any buttons to work when doing any work on the phone outside of the windows format. I noticed that at 99% I am to tap the vol. dw button and I don't think thats gonna work. From my desktop computer exsperience that I have I know there is actually 3 modes happening that work in conjunction with one another. CMOS MSDOS and Windows. I don't think its a windows issure and I don't know what else there is in these phones that work, but I will try this program and thank you again. I will let you know where I at with it in a few.
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Even if holding voldown doesn't work, you will still be able to boot back into the bootloader. task29 will clear the internal memory of everything. There won't be anything to load, so it will hang on the splash screen if it tries to load. Don't worry. We're going to try everything we can before we call it quits. This is a unique problem, but I think it can be fixed. Like I said, we just have to go in order.
Okay. First of all I'm sorry for the void between your last message and now. Its been a wild week so far. Thanks again for the help so far. With that said and done heres were I am at. I tried your Task 29 software and it did seem to be different at visualy. Possible problem is, is that when it rebooted after following your instructions, it did not go to the tri colored screen but to a blueish looking screen with the words Touch Pro 2 across the center. It almost looked like a splash screen, but never went any farther. So I'm not sure if that was acceptable or not as a proper task 29 but I did go ahead and load the stock rom into it and it went find. After the first reboot it started up with Airplane mode on. I shut it off and turned on the phone again. Everything was okay. You can only assign the phone button and nothing else that I know of so I couldn't see what was assigned to the end key so I pushed it. immediately it stuck the phone back into airplane mode again. Push or I should say tap and it took it out of it. I realize that by default the phone set the long press end key to shut the airplane mode on and off, but I am tapping and only tapping as I always have in the pass. Well so I got the idea of trying a different Rom in hopes that something will program the key to not shut the phone function off everytime I accidently tap the end key, I tried a few and Sharkies seems to surfice for the moment. By tapping the end key only brings up the Comm Manager instead of shutting the phone function down. Funny thing is though is that also was Sharkies default for long press. The problem has become with that now is that it has been just popping up by itself over and over. So I started tapping the end key when it popped up and suddenly it seems that it worked until I realized the the end key doesnt seem to be working at all. It clicks but thats it. So what to do now. Good thing at this time is the fact that I dont have to worry anymore about accidentally tapping the end key.Good chance it could be the button it self. I don't know. What ya think?
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Okay. First of all I'm sorry for the void between your last message and now. Its been a wild week so far. Thanks again for the help so far. With that said and done heres were I am at. I tried your Task 29 software and it did seem to be different at visualy. Possible problem is, is that when it rebooted after following your instructions, it did not go to the tri colored screen but to a blueish looking screen with the words Touch Pro 2 across the center. It almost looked like a splash screen, but never went any farther. So I'm not sure if that was acceptable or not as a proper task 29 but I did go ahead and load the stock rom into it and it went find. After the first reboot it started up with Airplane mode on. I shut it off and turned on the phone again. Everything was okay. You can only assign the phone button and nothing else that I know of so I couldn't see what was assigned to the end key so I pushed it. immediately it stuck the phone back into airplane mode again. Push or I should say tap and it took it out of it. I realize that by default the phone set the long press end key to shut the airplane mode on and off, but I am tapping and only tapping as I always have in the pass. Well so I got the idea of trying a different Rom in hopes that something will program the key to not shut the phone function off everytime I accidently tap the end key, I tried a few and Sharkies seems to surfice for the moment. By tapping the end key only brings up the Comm Manager instead of shutting the phone function down. Funny thing is though is that also was Sharkies default for long press. The problem has become with that now is that it has been just popping up by itself over and over. So I started tapping the end key when it popped up and suddenly it seems that it worked until I realized the the end key doesnt seem to be working at all. It clicks but thats it. So what to do now. Good thing at this time is the fact that I dont have to worry anymore about accidentally tapping the end key.Good chance it could be the button it self. I don't know. What ya think?
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On task29, it removes the entire ROM from the device's internal memory. There was nothing to boot up, so it stopped at the splash screen. That's how task29 works.
Well, this allows us to completely remove the possibility of the software's effect on your problem. What is happening is that the device is recognizing a short press as a long press. Since the button commands are interpreted by the SPL, we've got one last thing to try before declaring hardware fault. We'll need to flash the stock SPL, again to see if that clears it up. To do this, I'd ask that you flash the latest stock ROM to your device. After this, you'll need to go back to the CDMA Hard SPL thread and grab the latest stock SPL. Flash that to your device. Then boot it up and see if the problems persist. If it continues to register short presses as long one, then you have a hardware fault. If this fixes it, then you should be able to flash Hard SPL again and load another ROM with no problem.
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I have hit dead end after dead end, after many hours, just want to get copy of text messages off this phone somehow, and then erase all data. I have spent many hours on this, my level of experience with all this is beginner/intermediate, as I'm sure you will be able to tell by the ramble below. Skip to the last paragraph **** with the asterisks to get to the important part of my inquiry. if you don't want to read about what I have tried already.
Before you suggest the obvious, replace lcd, let me say that the motherboard lcd connector is damaged beyond repair. water damage, but the phone boots normally and seems to run fine. phone calls ring and other sounds indicate the phone is able to function but no display or touch function obviously. the usb port works. Also there is no samsung account on the phone so that option to bypass screen lock does not help. Kies, smart switch, etc don't help due to the "screen lock"
ie... There is a basic swipe to unlock "lock" on the phone, so otg cable options also hit a dead end. There are workarounds to bypass other lockscreens, but no way to do the swipe over otg that I can find. And even if/once I am able to swipe to unlock over otg, there are other obstacles to get around that may not be possible (click ok, navigate to enable usb debugging). If I am wrong here and there is an obvious solution I am missing, let me know (explain in detail if you can) and I will get the hub & cable back out and try again!
Dr.phone android recovery (data recovery/damaged device option) looks like the most promising, and here I have also run into trouble. Dr phone will put the phone into download mode but then always seems to fail "flash recovery package failed" at some percentage. dr.phone downloads the recovery package (I am selecting the correct model n910v) successfully, but the percentage before flash recovery package fails changes. It hasn't made it past 85%. the dr.phone log files don't reveal anything to my untrained eye.
Before running dr.phone, adb "permission denied"...after using dr phone, however, while the phone is still powered on and in download mode, once I close dr phone, I am able to start to get somewhere with adb! adb devices shows the phone as an emulated device, and (some) adb commands start to work! I think if I just am able to find the exact location of the stock messaging log, I will be very close.
If anyone can suggest some commands to try in adb to grab just the sms log I would be very grateful!
I can run "adb backup", and have tried a few other adb commands, but none of the standard backup commands actually contain a sms log.
***Anyway, I think the best option might be to flash a custom recovery after getting the phone in download mode & adb working successfully (showing as an emulated device) with dr.phone as described above... However I have no way to tell what firmware version the phone is running (don't want to brick it or loose data), and I am really looking for specific directions on which clockworkmod or twrp recovery file to try for n910v, that will allow me to get a sms backup, and/or a recovery that will have usb debugging enabled.
Thanks for the input! sorry for the rambling post, I hope it's possible to make sense of it.. ANY help greatly appreciated!
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I have hit dead end after dead end, after many hours, just want to get copy of text messages off this phone somehow, and then erase all data. I have spent many hours on this, my level of experience with all this is beginner/intermediate, as I'm sure you will be able to tell by the ramble below. Skip to the last paragraph **** with the asterisks to get to the important part of my inquiry. if you don't want to read about what I have tried already.
Before you suggest the obvious, replace lcd, let me say that the motherboard lcd connector is damaged beyond repair. water damage, but the phone boots normally and seems to run fine. phone calls ring and other sounds indicate the phone is able to function but no display or touch function obviously. the usb port works. Also there is no samsung account on the phone so that option to bypass screen lock does not help. Kies, smart switch, etc don't help due to the "screen lock"
ie... There is a basic swipe to unlock "lock" on the phone, so otg cable options also hit a dead end. There are workarounds to bypass other lockscreens, but no way to do the swipe over otg that I can find. And even if/once I am able to swipe to unlock over otg, there are other obstacles to get around that may not be possible (click ok, navigate to enable usb debugging). If I am wrong here and there is an obvious solution I am missing, let me know (explain in detail if you can) and I will get the hub & cable back out and try again!
Dr.phone android recovery (data recovery/damaged device option) looks like the most promising, and here I have also run into trouble. Dr phone will put the phone into download mode but then always seems to fail "flash recovery package failed" at some percentage. dr.phone downloads the recovery package (I am selecting the correct model n910v) successfully, but the percentage before flash recovery package fails changes. It hasn't made it past 85%. the dr.phone log files don't reveal anything to my untrained eye.
Before running dr.phone, adb "permission denied"...after using dr phone, however, while the phone is still powered on and in download mode, once I close dr phone, I am able to start to get somewhere with adb! adb devices shows the phone as an emulated device, and (some) adb commands start to work! I think if I just am able to find the exact location of the stock messaging log, I will be very close.
If anyone can suggest some commands to try in adb to grab just the sms log I would be very grateful!
I can run "adb backup", and have tried a few other adb commands, but none of the standard backup commands actually contain a sms log.
***Anyway, I think the best option might be to flash a custom recovery after getting the phone in download mode & adb working successfully (showing as an emulated device) with dr.phone as described above... However I have no way to tell what firmware version the phone is running (don't want to brick it or loose data), and I am really looking for specific directions on which clockworkmod or twrp recovery file to try for n910v, that will allow me to get a sms backup, and/or a recovery that will have usb debugging enabled.
Thanks for the input! sorry for the rambling post, I hope it's possible to make sense of it.. ANY help greatly appreciated!
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This tool might work for you. Ive never used it myself but it looks promising. It supposed to be able to control your phone on your pc.
For the custom recovery, it should tell you what model you have when you boot into download mode but the TWRP for the note 4 has been unified so it should work either way. This link is for the most recent version. Get the .tar file if you're looking to use ODIN to install it.
Thanks for the reply! The tool you inked to requires USB debugging switched on. I was looking at it previously but didn't consider it because of this. I have USB debugging off, and the process I described with the dr phone windows application /download mode, doesn't turn usb debugging on.
Is there a way that I can flash a recovery for the note 4 that has USB debugging enabled from the start? If anyone knows please describe the process or post the link.
I think I need step by step instructions or screen shots for what to do with the Note 4 twrp recovery. I am trying to acquire a second phone so I can view the screen and know what buttons to press, but so far it is not looking like I have enough information to do sms backup from the twrp menus..on the device when I can't see the screen.
I see reference to being able to use adb commands to control the twrp recovery / backup process, but so far I haven't found anything that will help for my particular situation. If anyone knows what adb commands to use to pull the note 4 sms files , or a backup that includes them, PLEASE let me know.
thanks again