Lack of development for the D855 - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Was just curious as to why the D855 seems to have a lack of development now that bump had gone open source (though I hate how it was done and feel for Codefire and his team) Yes there are several AOSP Roms available to flash, none are official..

kdp162 said:
Was just curious as to why the D855 seems to have a lack of development now that bump had gone open source (though I hate how it was done and feel for Codefire and his team) Yes there are several AOSP Roms available to flash, none are official..
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1) Everybody is moving to Lolipop, no one wants to make 4.4 roms.
2) AOSP 5.0 base is not stable. It is still buggy.
3) Consequently, no roms based on lolipop are stable. So no "official roms" from cyan or others will be released right now.
4) Cyan, Liquid and other teams are in process of porting their features and apps to 5.0. They'll need to do a lot of rewriting...
5) Apktool doesn't work with most LG 5.0 system apks. We (Seven and me) submitted a bug, and apktool's author is looking into it. Until he fixes this bug, almost no modding is possible.
We'll have to wait for several months, until everything is sorted out.

That still doesn't explain why the D851 has multiple official AOSP Roms to choose from while the D855 has none

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At this point...

Well, we have a bunch of roms for hour HERO, in one rom the camera works at 5mpx, in another at 3.
We've opengl working and not working.
In another rom we have Sense UI, in another we don't have it...
So, why don't you unify all those efforts and create a unique rom with
camera working
sense/non-sense (2 version of the same rom)
And all other stuff???
Is this idea so bad?
They are all based on different Kernals (the basis of the rom) so therefore they are built up differently leading to different things working and not working.
It may be possible to get everything working but certainly would nto be a quick and easy task.
Best thing to do is think of what you regularly use and pick whatever 2.1 rom suits your needs until we get a fully working 2.1 dump.
I think, at this point, i'll wait for a HTC official update, and i'll keep using Exit93 roms...
I second that.
As a fairly long time xda-user i often find it frustrating to find a good rom for my phone.
Just the other day i got my hero and this time there seems to be slightly fewer roms floating around but it's still pretty hard to find a suitable one.
I think alot of us have a good idea of what exactly we want and alot of roms have a bunch of stuff we really dont care about as much as the chef.
What i would really appreciate is a clean rom with a repository of optional components, i don't mind there being a chinese keyboard, but please make it optional.
If i could i would love to get in to the cooking game, i've thought about it several times over the last few years. Alas, i don't know where to start, at least not with Hero.
If anyone can point me to a good starting place i would love to give it a try and make the rom im talking about.
Cheers
[xstream] said:
I second that.
As a fairly long time xda-user i often find it frustrating to find a good rom for my phone.
Just the other day i got my hero and this time there seems to be slightly fewer roms floating around but it's still pretty hard to find a suitable one.
I think alot of us have a good idea of what exactly we want and alot of roms have a bunch of stuff we really dont care about as much as the chef.
What i would really appreciate is a clean rom with a repository of optional components, i don't mind there being a chinese keyboard, but please make it optional.
If i could i would love to get in to the cooking game, i've thought about it several times over the last few years. Alas, i don't know where to start, at least not with Hero.
If anyone can point me to a good starting place i would love to give it a try and make the rom im talking about.
Cheers
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i believe CKDroid is the one for you. it comes with a small kitchen (windows only) to enable you to customize the rom. it's quite stable too
also ... look here for a start to your cooking career.
Lennyuk said:
They are all based on different Kernals (the basis of the rom) so therefore they are built up differently leading to different things working and not working.
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this is wrong. all the 2.1 roms are based on the exact same kernel from the only leaked 2.1 rom we have. as soon as the sources are out a lot will change, but until then the kernel is one of the biggest limitations.
kendong2 said:
this is wrong. all the 2.1 roms are based on the exact same kernel from the only leaked 2.1 rom we have. as soon as the sources are out a lot will change, but until then the kernel is one of the biggest limitations.
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I was sure that the sense based 2.1 roms and the normal android 2.1 roms were based on different sources.
Lennyuk said:
I was sure that the sense based 2.1 roms and the normal android 2.1 roms were based on different sources.
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kernel != rom
there is only one binary 2.6.29 kernel for the 2.1 roms. compare the roms, you will see that the kernel is always:
Code:
2.6.29-8d063048
[email protected]
even if some (one) devs try to make it look like they have a custom kernel...
kendong2 said:
kernel != rom
there is only one binary 2.6.29 kernel for the 2.1 roms. compare the roms, you will see that the kernel is always:
Code:
2.6.29-8d063048
[email protected]
even if some (one) devs try to make it look like they have a custom kernel...
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ok didn't know that. thanks
Lennyuk said:
I was sure that the sense based 2.1 roms and the normal android 2.1 roms were based on different sources.
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There is only one set of freely available source code for Android 2.1 and that is the AOSP version. Note that this is quite distinct from the kernel source code, and is license separately.
For the most part, the Sense-based 2.1 ROMs will be using precompiled elements taken from leaked HTC ROMs, though may have some AOSP elements too.
When HTC do finally release 2.1 for Hero, they must then make the kernel source code as per the terms of the GPL. However, HTC do not ever have to release the source code for their version of Android because the Apache Software Licence (ASL) that Google released Android under is not a copyleft license.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
There is only one set of freely available source code for Android 2.1 and that is the AOSP version. Note that this is quite distinct from the kernel source code, and is license separately.
For the most part, the Sense-based 2.1 ROMs will be using precompiled elements taken from leaked HTC ROMs, though may have some AOSP elements too.
When HTC do finally release 2.1 for Hero, they must then make the kernel source code as per the terms of the GPL. However, HTC do not ever have to release the source code for their version of Android because the Apache Software Licence (ASL) that Google released Android under is not a copyleft license.
Regards,
Dave
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Always learning...
Thanks
None of the current 2.1 ROMS is worth using, they're all just useful for experiments with Android 2.1 - no more than that.
I'm happy with MCR 3.1 so far, it's fast stable, working and relyable, nothing of that could be said of any 2.1 custom ROM so far. So please wait 2 or 3 more weeks until we finally get a real working 2.1 ROM from HTC.
Nemo0815 said:
None of the current 2.1 ROMS is worth using, they're all just useful for experiments with Android 2.1 - no more than that.
I'm happy with MCR 3.1 so far, it's fast stable, working and relyable, nothing of that could be said of any 2.1 custom ROM so far. So please wait 2 or 3 more weeks until we finally get a real working 2.1 ROM from HTC.
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That's just your opinion
VillianRom is currently offering me everything I need to use in a ROM with no issues at all.
Sure some people have problem with different roms but thats because everyone has different needs and uses with their devices.

Does an LG 5.0 OTA update mean faster updates to existing AOSP Roms?

Hi All,
Getting the G3 this week, brand new (Snapdragon version). Can't wait to put a custom AOSP ROM on it. Question though, before this comes out:
I heard the 5.0 OTA Update will be coming out this week and wanted to know if this means we will get much faster development to an AOSP 5.0 Lollipop rom with far less bugs because LG is putting it out theirs first.? I would imagine all the code can be extracted and used and helps elimiate bugs for XDA's amazing developers, and makes the transition a lot smoother, than if the developers were to go from 4.3 or 4.4 straight to 5.0 with no release from LG? Can anyone confirm? I'm very excited
Lastly, which is the best G3 AOSP ROM? Which are you most excited about for Lollipop?
Cheers
khaltire said:
Getting the G3 this week, brand new (Snapdragon version). Can't wait to put a custom AOSP ROM on it. Question though, before this comes out:
I heard the 5.0 OTA Update will be coming out this week and wanted to know if this means we will get much faster development to an AOSP 5.0 Lollipop rom with far less bugs because LG is putting it out theirs first.? I would imagine all the code can be extracted and used and helps elimiate bugs for XDA's amazing developers, and makes the transition a lot smoother, than if the developers were to go from 4.3 or 4.4 straight to 5.0 with no release from LG? Can anyone confirm? I'm very excited
Lastly, which is the best G3 AOSP ROM? Which are you most excited about for Lollipop?
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LG releasing source code will be a huge boost to developers working on Lollipop AOSP builds. We have some very talented developers working on this and even have some booting ROMs.
As far as "best" ROMs, that question is not allowed on XDA. Best is extremely subjective and such questions tend to cause fights.
The best rom is the one that suits your needs.
The best rom is the one I'm running that week.
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[Q] Now What? Lollipop or Kitkat? (ART or Xposed?)

Ok, so I got a G3 (UK SIM-free). Comes with KK 4.4.2. I've Rooted, installed recovery (with modem/EFS support and backed up everything) and customised with Xposed modules. New lollipop ROM has been released but I'm not sure I can do the things I need or want to do with Xposed on KK with the Lollipop custom ROMs currently available, like Gravitybox's expanded desktop options to remove dock or DS battery saver's tasty battery life gains..
Trouble is most of the custom ROMs that look good Android Now or Chupa Chups etc. only list Lollipop ROMs now and I can't find the last KK versions of these custom ROMs for download.
So what do I do? Do I stick with my customised 4.4.2? Do I go for a custom Lollipop ROM and risk losing the look and feel I like? Does any one know where a list of the last (most stable?) 4.4.4 KK versions of the good custom ROMs would be?
KK + Xposed for the win. Don't look back.
LP is not impressive enough for me to give up my Xposed. Running 45-50 modules (yes, 45-50) I refuse to give up my Xposed.
gandalf_grey91 said:
Ok, so I got a G3 (UK SIM-free). Comes with KK 4.4.2. I've Rooted, installed recovery (with modem/EFS support and backed up everything) and customised with Xposed modules. New lollipop ROM has been released but I'm not sure I can do the things I need or want to do with Xposed on KK with the Lollipop custom ROMs currently available, like Gravitybox's expanded desktop options to remove dock or DS battery saver's tasty battery life gains..
Trouble is most of the custom ROMs that look good Android Now or Chupa Chups etc. only list Lollipop ROMs now and I can't find the last KK versions of these custom ROMs for download.
So what do I do? Do I stick with my customised 4.4.2? Do I go for a custom Lollipop ROM and risk losing the look and feel I like? Does any one know where a list of the last (most stable?) 4.4.4 KK versions of the good custom ROMs would be?
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There aren't actually any good custom 4.4.x roms for G3. They all were prematurely terminated bc of 5.0 release.
Well, most Xposed modifications aren't doable without it. Try to live without it for a week, see what it's like.
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There aren't actually any good custom 4.4.x roms for G3. They all were prematurely terminated bc of 5.0 release.
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SlimKat is pretty much as good as KK is going to get for these phones. Not supported or updated anymore, but the best all-around ROM for the G3's wanting 4.4.x
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CM 11 is still supported / updated via nightlies (even if fewer and farther between updates now with CM 12 up and running)? Unless things have changed in the past couple of weeks...
LifeAsADroid said:
SlimKat is pretty much as good as KK is going to get for these phones. Not supported or updated anymore, but the best all-around ROM for the G3's wanting 4.4.x
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CM 11 is still supported / updated via nightlies (even if fewer and farther between updates now with CM 12 up and running)? Unless things have changed in the past couple of weeks...
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It is, but AFAIK there are no official builds for G3, so you'll have to compile it yourself. Plus, the device layer (HAL, etc) is incomplete, so there will be bugs.
YaDr said:
It is, but AFAIK there are no official builds for G3, so you'll have to compile it yourself. Plus, the device layer (HAL, etc) is incomplete, so there will be bugs.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...yanogenmod-11-0-nightlies-verizon-lg-t2956023
EDIT: Unknown about other carrier models. Being on VZW this is the one I was aware of.
YaDr said:
There aren't actually any good custom 4.4.x roms for G3. They all were prematurely terminated bc of 5.0 release. Well, most Xposed modifications aren't do able without it. Try to live without it for a week, see what it's like.
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Really? How good can the Lollipop ROMs be then? They really are immature.
I really need Xposed, don't like the dock, at all. Use PIE via LMT.
LifeAsADroid said:
SlimKat is pretty much as good as KK is going to get for these phones. Not supported or updated anymore, but the best all-around ROM for the G3's wanting 4.4.x Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CM 11 is still supported / updated via nightlies (even if fewer and farther between updates now with CM 12 up and running)? Unless things have changed in the past couple of weeks...
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YaDr said:
It is, but AFAIK there are no official builds for G3, so you'll have to compile it yourself. Plus, the device layer (HAL, etc) is incomplete, so there will be bugs.
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Sorry, I probably should have said I am only considering modified stock custom ROMs. I didn't buy a phone with such a good camera to lose the majority of the function.
gandalf_grey91 said:
Really? How good can the Lollipop ROMs be then? They really are immature.
I really need Xposed, don't like the dock, at all. Use PIE via LMT.
Sorry, I probably should have said I am only considering modified stock custom ROMs. I didn't buy a phone with such a good camera to lose the majority of the function.
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I never said that lolipop roms are good, i said that all G3 rom makers forgot about 4.4 and moved on to buggy future. Current 5.0 roms suck, they drain battery twice as fast, they lag, they have inferior memory management, etc...
We have to wait for good stock-based customs. At least until 20L and apktool 2.0 RC4 release. After that, we will have a good base and will be able to decompile and recompile any LG apk, which would allow for some serious mods.
Exposed until L is ironed out. The G3 camera is excellent. Xcam for me.
Don't leave home without it.
Long story short, custom ROM'S never be good as official ESPECIALLY for LG G3, you just need to understand that, for some people it's ok but for some don't. All you need is a root and MAYBE a custom kernel. PEACE.
I found lollipop is faster especially with chrome, yes, I gave up xposed but worth it
Sorry, I have been pretty dumb. So LG went from 4.4.2 to 5.0 with the G3 and there are no customised stock 4.4.4 ROMs? That being the case, I might as well stay on 4.4.2, get to debloating and sort out the annoying boot animation and sound.
Any prefered/recommended method for debloating? Anything else I should look into doing to my stock 4.4.2 ROM?

[Q] Is it a good idea to use an abandoned ROM?

I've been looking for a custom rom to use on my Galaxy Ace 2 I8160.
I see many of them are discontinued or abandoned.
Is it still a good idea to choose one of these or should I use one that is still supported?
I might switch rom again at a later time but normally I'm going to stick with the one I'm going to choose for a while.
I didn't research every option in the same detail. Maybe there are up to date versions available.
These are the ones I was considering:
Resurrection Remix (I see there are 2 versions. Maclaw version is still supported? )
Vanir
OmniRom
Paranoid Android (This one doesn't seem to be officially discontinued)
and some other I forgot about...
I could go for CyanogenMod but I'd like something different. Already have CM on my SE Xperia Ray.
Also as list for available roms I found these:
romlister (is this a trusted site?)
this thread
If you have any suggestions or any tips, they are always welcome!:good:
Thanks!
Actually it's all up to you. I don't see any bad reasons to use an abandoned ROM if it is already quite stable. And if you could live with having just the old features (no updates, of course), then go for it.
Some things to consider though:
- Older ROM might have newly found bug that aren't patch, thus might be less secure or more buggy
- older ROM might not have the latest feature, so if you need latest features, it might not have it
- what's more important, since it's abandoned you can't expect support from the original makers.
That being said, again, if you could live with those, nothing is keeping you from using an abandoned ROM
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[Q]Stable Custom ROM

Dear All,
I'm looking for stable custom rom (if possible lollipop/marshmallow) for my e988 4g KitKat device, especially that can save battery usage. Do you guys have any refference?
There are so many custom rom but i'm difficult to find the plus and minus side of those rom.
Ive been looking to cm site, but unfortunately they are not available anymore
Thankyou
Look, most AOSP ROMs have same issues: camera crashes, bluetooth connection problems etc. etc. Everything else is pretty much same. People were mostly using SlimLP and Carbon, some used Bliss but I think there is no download link for it. Slim and Carbon use a bit more customizable kernel (dave used my kernel for as long as he built Carbon, and SlimLP has just a bit newer version of it, with GPU issues fixed completely).
My choices were Slim and (later, after Slim stopped updating their Lollipop sources) PAC (built for personal needs, no uploads) so if you want AOSP, go with SlimLP or Carbon. Carbon was working nicely too, and last time I had Bliss installed was somewhere after Lollipop just started, so can't judge how last versions worked.
If any of this is not good enough, try any of these stock roms, if any still available. I can't recommend anything from there simply because I never wanted to use those - if stock was that good, I'd stay on it
P.S. This device never received Marshmallow updates due to insane amount of work someone had to provide. I had few attempts but never moved over some issues with modem. More in the forums...
Thank you for the explanation, i will look more for Carbon in Android Development threads.
I've been using this daily: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70801465&postcount=720
ssurell said:
I've been using this daily: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70801465&postcount=720
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Still fail to flash carbon from 4.4.2 base..
How about slim lp,bliss pop, and over 2.1?
ShadySquirrel said:
Look, most AOSP ROMs have same issues: camera crashes, bluetooth connection problems etc. etc. Everything else is pretty much same. People were mostly using SlimLP and Carbon, some used Bliss but I think there is no download link for it. Slim and Carbon use a bit more customizable kernel (dave used my kernel for as long as he built Carbon, and SlimLP has just a bit newer version of it, with GPU issues fixed completely).
My choices were Slim and (later, after Slim stopped updating their Lollipop sources) PAC (built for personal needs, no uploads) so if you want AOSP, go with SlimLP or Carbon. Carbon was working nicely too, and last time I had Bliss installed was somewhere after Lollipop just started, so can't judge how last versions worked.
If any of this is not good enough, try any of these stock roms, if any still available. I can't recommend anything from there simply because I never wanted to use those - if stock was that good, I'd stay on it
P.S. This device never received Marshmallow updates due to insane amount of work someone had to provide. I had few attempts but never moved over some issues with modem. More in the forums...
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Were there any MM kernels ever compiled that you know of? Could someone with enough time and work be able to successfully compile a working rom? A bit of a developing noob, but have two E980s and plenty of time on my hands.
saintbump said:
Were there any MM kernels ever compiled that you know of? Could someone with enough time and work be able to successfully compile a working rom? A bit of a developing noob, but have two E980s and plenty of time on my hands.
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Yes, mine I was probably only one who worked on Marshmallow, but sources are now long gone, drive I've kept my repo is dead and I haven't uploaded that anywhere.
I've been using Carbon KK for several months and it is very stable and smooth. I've never used MM so not sure how it compares, but it has all the features I need to keep using this phone every day.
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Resurrection Remix 5.5.9 + WildKernel works quite good for me on E986
https://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-g-pro/development/rom-resurrection-remix-lp-v5-5-8-t3237570
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/op...rnel-wildkernel-build-1-featurlicous-t3069629

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