This may seem like a n00b question, but how would I extract my functioning system images (3.6.8) to my brick(ed) Fire Phone that was on 3.6.8 but I downgraded to 3.5.0 to try to root and now it won't register to Amazon.
I bought two exactly for this reason but unsure how to get it working.
You can not extract software without root and I doubt you could flash it on another phone even if you had it, package has to be signed by amazon. You have to use the official 3.6.8 image. I do not think what you did voids the warranty, what you did looks legal to me, I would chat with them and say what happened. They should either release 3.6.8 image or replace the phone.
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I got some questions I hope you can help with. My mom has a Kindle Fire that she just got to use because she didn't have the proper internet (that's a long story).
Questions:
1. If she roots this and changes roms will she lose 'Kindle' functionality? Is there a workaround to get it back?
2. Does dual boot allow her to keep the original Kindle rom and have a custom rom?
3. She is out of town so I can't get to her Kindle right away. Does Amazon have some kind of OTA updates? Is there a way to disable them until she gets the opportunity to root? I don't want Amazon closing any security holes before the device gets modified.
Thanks!
bird333 said:
I got some questions I hope you can help with. My mom has a Kindle Fire that she just got to use because she didn't have the proper internet (that's a long story).
Questions:
1. If she roots this and changes roms will she lose 'Kindle' functionality? Is there a workaround to get it back?
2. Does dual boot allow her to keep the original Kindle rom and have a custom rom?
3. She is out of town so I can't get to her Kindle right away. Does Amazon have some kind of OTA updates? Is there a way to disable them until she gets the opportunity to root? I don't want Amazon closing any security holes before the device gets modified.
Thanks!
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1) Certain priveleges, like Video On Demand and Lending Library, are disabled on rooted devices. OTA Rootkeeper and other similar apps can temporarily unroot the device to access these features. I've never done it so I couldn't say how effective it is.
2) Yes
3) MoDaCo ROM, is a customized version of the stock ROM with OTA disabled and various other improvements. Like any custom ROM it is rooted, so certain priveleges will be inaccessible until it is unrooted as mentioned before. Having said that, the likeliness of getting another OTA update for this device any time soon is pretty low.
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1) Certain priveleges, like Video On Demand and Lending Library, are disabled on rooted devices. OTA Rootkeeper and other similar apps can temporarily unroot the device to access these features. I've never done it so I couldn't say how effective it is.
2) Yes
3) MoDaCo ROM, is a customized version of the stock ROM with OTA disabled and various other improvements. Like any custom ROM it is rooted, so certain priveleges will be inaccessible until it is unrooted as mentioned before. Having said that, the likeliness of getting another OTA update for this device any time soon is pretty low.
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Thanks for the reply. So you can't disable OTA on the stock rom? Does it give you the opportunity to decline the update? Like I said she just started using it so she probably doesn't have any updates on it yet.
bird333 said:
Thanks for the reply. So you can't disable OTA on the stock rom? Does it give you the opportunity to decline the update? Like I said she just started using it so she probably doesn't have any updates on it yet.
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You can disable OTA on a rooted device by renaming a certain file. Otherwise, if an OTA does come around, it can't be declined. Furthermore, OTA updates have been known to soft brick devices to a point where a factory cable is needed to fix them.
With that being said, rooted Kindle Fires, and Kindle Fires running custom ROMs, require a certain level of knowledge/maintenance to make sure everything stays running smoothly. Anyone not invested/prepared is open to certain problems resulting from it.
Simply put, having a rooted/modified device is probably not the best choice for the technically challenged.
[Edit:] Also, and this is very important, if the Kindle Fire in question is brand new or purchased since Nov. 2012, you may have a 2nd generation Kindle Fire, in which case disregard everything that has been said here because you could permanently brick the device by using any of the methods found in the these (KF1) forums.
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You can disable OTA on a rooted device by renaming a certain file. Otherwise, if an OTA does come around, it can't be declined. Furthermore, OTA updates have been known to soft brick devices to a point where a factory cable is needed to fix them.
With that being said, rooted Kindle Fires, and Kindle Fires running custom ROMs, require a certain level of knowledge/maintenance to make sure everything stays running smoothly. Anyone not invested/prepared is open to certain problems resulting from it.
Simply put, having a rooted/modified device is probably not the best choice for the technically challenged.
[Edit:] Also, and this is very important, if the Kindle Fire in question is brand new or purchased since Nov. 2012, you may have a 2nd generation Kindle Fire, in which case disregard everything that has been said here because you could permanently brick the device by using any of the methods found in the these (KF1) forums.
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I'm pretty sure it's version 1. She has had it over a year and hadn't been able to use it until now. I'll have her check the software version to be sure. Thanks for the help.
Hopefully someone can help. So I picked up a Fire HD for a good price and I want to put KitKat on it. Every tutorial or example I find talks about the software version being 7.x.x and mine has 11-something (see pic).
Can I still blow away the Amazon software and get Android on here? Will the walk-through showing 7.x.x work? Am I even in the right section?
the 11.x.x kindles (2nd gen hd's) have the exploit patched and can't have custom recovery installed on it to allow for custom boot images to be flashed, so the only rom you can flash is kindle water beta, and its not kitkat. Unless someone find a bootloader exploit then you are not going to be able to flash any roms on it outside the one mentioned.
I bought a Fire from PC World yesterday, after several frustrating hours discovering that there's not much hope of it being rooted I had a look on Ebay, I've seen several rooted ones that seem to be quite good value, but they are in the states.
I have absolutely no intention of using my Amazon account on them, I only really want it for XBMC and all the rooted goodness and I'm sure there'll be a killer app that makes a rooted fire a very hot property indeed.
Question is, will a US fire TV work OK over here ?
Anyone know.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, it will work fine out of the box, apart from needing a US to UK plug adapter. Only things to be aware - you'll need to block updates so the box does not update to a firmware that removes root (which it will eventually try to do). And, if you want to update to a newer firmware manually and keep root, then you will need to use a custom recovery and a pre-rooted firmware update file. Manual updates is probably not vital though if you are only using it for XBMC.
Some useful guides over at aftvnews.com. First one may not be relevant if you're buying pre-rooted.
How to determine Fire TV Software Version and Rootability on First Setup Screen
How to block OTA update for Amazon Fire TV and keep Root Access
How to update a Rooted Amazon Fire TV to the Latest Version Without Losing Root
Hi all. I bought a pre-rooted Fire TV today that came with Kodi and a bunch of other things installed. I'm new to Android and am a bit puzzled about something: the current firmware is 51.1.4.1 but that's unrootable....but my AFTV is definitely rooted and Amazon updates are turned off.
Can someone please elaborate on how my AFTV can be rooted but currently running an unrootable firmware?
Cheers
Sounds like you got used one from some local seller. He might have installed pre-rooted stock rom by rbox
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/prerooted-stock-images-t2882337
I bought it from a guy on eBay who sells a lot of these. I'm almost certain it was new but had been rooted and set up prior to sale in order to boost his profit. I originally purchased a brand new unopened unit from him but when I turned it on, I realised it had 51.1.4.1 firmware and couldn't root it.....so I contacted the guy and paid extra to get a rooted/set-up unit instead. He told me that his latest batch of AFTVs had the newer firmware and therefore couldn't be rooted, but he still had a few rooted units available (which is what I ended up getting). However, I'm still confused as to how the current firmware can be 51.1.4.1 but still be rooted?!?
Sorry for the noob question....my background until now has been iOS and I've been running jailbroken ATV 2s with XBMC. WIth iOS, if you upgrade from a jailbroken firmware to a non-jailbreakable firmware then you lose the jailbreak. I'm puzzled as to how my AFTV is essentially "jailbroken" but running a non-"jailbreakable" firmware version....that doesn't make sense to me.
EDIT: I just remembered that when my AFTV boots, Rbox's Boot Menu appears with Boot Kernel and Launch Recovery options. I'm going to have to do a lot more reading about all of this stuff. I guess I'm lucky in that I have a rooted AFTV but from what I understand so far, I'd lose root if I mucked around and tried to downgrade.
You,'ve got custom recovery so you can upgrade, d mowngrade , factory reset , etc. This is done through clockworkmod recovery. But...if you don't know what I'm talking about you should read aftvnews starter's guide.
Btw--you're good right where you're at. There's nothing to upgrade, and far as I know, no reason to downgrade.
Thanks KLit75, that makes more sense to me. I really appreciate your advice.
Hello all,
Posting from freezing Britain here. Bought a new kindle fire 7" and have heard that installing custom software is would be wiser. I used to have an ainol 7" tablet from years ago so have some experience installing custom software. so the questions I have are:
*How do I find out what firmware I'm using? If I boot the tablet up is it going to instantaneously update once connected to the internet? Is there a way of stopping that before it happens?
* I've been reading that there is a cynagenmod and nexus firmwares available for the tablet. Do either of these need to be manually updated or is it possible to automatically update once they have been installed? What are the main differences?
I'm using this tablet for mostly reading and the odd games and some video streaming so not looking for anything to advanced.
Appreciate any advice that can be sent my way
Many thanks
Dr Cross
To be honest, I would have same question. Seems that those Kindle Fires (I have purchased two for the christmas gifts for the family in Poland) are 5th generation. Is there a way to flash them with something else as I have heard that once those would be delivered to Poland, my family won't even be able to install any apps on it as Amazon Store blocks polish IP addresses.
Anyway could provide some basic info if those tablets can be flashed with some other ROM to at least provide functionality for Gapps and polish language (dreaming...)
edit: ok... have to say that xda "search" wasn't helpful enough however when I have used google, I have found this thread which might come in handy:
5th Gen - 2015
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485
Dr M Cross said:
Hello all,
Posting from freezing Britain here. Bought a new kindle fire 7" and have heard that installing custom software is would be wiser. I used to have an ainol 7" tablet from years ago so have some experience installing custom software. so the questions I have are:
*How do I find out what firmware I'm using? If I boot the tablet up is it going to instantaneously update once connected to the internet? Is there a way of stopping that before it happens?
* I've been reading that there is a cynagenmod and nexus firmwares available for the tablet. Do either of these need to be manually updated or is it possible to automatically update once they have been installed? What are the main differences?
I'm using this tablet for mostly reading and the odd games and some video streaming so not looking for anything to advanced.
Appreciate any advice that can be sent my way
Many thanks
Dr Cross
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I just did this last night from firmware 5.3.1 and it worked fine. You can find your version by going to Settings>About Tablet>Build Number I believe though now that my tablet is flashed with a new rom it does not look the same. From what I understand you cannot root 5.3.2 but can downgrade back to 5.3.1 and then root.
The easiest way to root is with RootJunky's supertool which was just upgraded a week ago and worked fine on my tablet. Download and instructions are here http://www.rootjunky.com/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool/ You can install the correct drivers, root the tablet, remove adds, and install flashify. Once you have flashify you can install whatever ROM you'd like. If I understand correctly you cannot install a custom recovery on 5.3.1
I am running the Nexus rom and it seems to be working great. Got a replacement for my stolen Nexus tablet for $33 on black friday. That's a deal!
Personally I have spend two days on this Kindle. What I have found has lead to a decision that I am returning those Kindle Fire tablets back to Amazon.
Originally purchased on Cyber Monday. Item which has arrived is 5th gen 5.3.1. Kindle. Once connected to Wifi it download 5.3.2 and waits for user action before updating (the OTA). I have used the supertool without luck. Even after 25 restarts, the Kingroot hasn't rooted the device to then be replaced by "su". From what I understand, if the Kindle originally had older bootloader and was upgraded to 5.3.1, than it still possible to root the device and install custom ROM. If the device is already on 5.3.1, based on todays tools and xda / reddit / youtube videos - rooting is not achievable as bootloader is different. Downgrading 5.3.1 WILL BRICK the device and of course shouldn't be performed!
If anyone has any other info - I am happy to hear about it, however at this moment I know that ADB and fastboot works fine, but Kingroot just hangs on 86% to than say that it wasn't able to root the device.
edmun said:
Personally I have spend two days on this Kindle. What I have found has lead to a decision that I am returning those Kindle Fire tablets back to Amazon.
Originally purchased on Cyber Monday. Item which has arrived is 5th gen 5.3.1. Kindle. Once connected to Wifi it download 5.3.2 and waits for user action before updating (the OTA). I have used the supertool without luck. Even after 25 restarts, the Kingroot hasn't rooted the device to then be replaced by "su". From what I understand, if the Kindle originally had older bootloader and was upgraded to 5.3.1, than it still possible to root the device and install custom ROM. If the device is already on 5.3.1, based on todays tools and xda / reddit / youtube videos - rooting is not achievable as bootloader is different. Downgrading 5.3.1 WILL BRICK the device and of course shouldn't be performed!
If anyone has any other info - I am happy to hear about it, however at this moment I know that ADB and fastboot works fine, but Kingroot just hangs on 86% to than say that it wasn't able to root the device.
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I was absolutely able to root my kindle from 5.3.1 yesterday. Brand new one straight from Amazon. Make sure you are using the very latest supertools which includes updated kingroot. Link is on my post above.
By the way I don't think kingroot ever said it had successfully rooted my tablet but I replaced with super su rebooted and I definitely have root.
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So the instructions in the supertool are misleading... As it does say to run kingroot over and over again to root and and then replace with SU. Yep. I am using the latest version. Seriously. 2 days of constant running of Kingroot with no vain. On 5th gen with 5.3.1. Never had any issues with any devices, even HTC with S-On, Nexus, Motorola Xoom, this Kindle Fire does give me a headache....
I will try today or tomorrow again. It is already after factory reset as it is waiting to be posted back (luckily Amazon told me that I have time until 2nd of February to return the tablets)
edit: Hmm... after factory reset rooting went fine without any issues.
I can only assume that once the device is "assigned" to Amazon Account, it is somehow changed.
So ... After factory reset and starting from a scratch - I do have root on amazon fire 7" 5th generation 5.3.1.
this isn't the 5th gen forum see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire
Hi all,
Thanks for your helps. Appears a friend of mine updated the OS to 5.3.2.1..... so I'm essentially stuck until there are further developments...