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Can you give me a layman's description on what the Fire Tv actually is/does?

I get its like Roku, but even.. what does it do? Can you stream local stuff or just things that are offered on the fire platform? Reason Im asking, is that my father is thinking about dumping FIOS. As he never watches "season style shows" He just turns it on to watch something when bored. So something like Fire Tv I think will be cool for him... He wont be playing games, just watching random broadcasts.. He said he liked the Roku and like the 99 cent movie channel.. Does the Fire TV have the same setup as the Roku?
Thanks guys!
Of course, Id be rooting it and downloading that XBMC that I seen. Again I dont know much about it, but it seems like most recommend to do that and root the unit. I seen an OTA blocker too... thanks agian.

mroneeyedboh said:
I get its like Roku, but even.. what does it do? Can you stream local stuff or just things that are offered on the fire platform? Reason Im asking, is that my father is thinking about dumping FIOS. As he never watches "season style shows" He just turns it on to watch something when bored. So something like Fire Tv I think will be cool for him... He wont be playing games, just watching random broadcasts.. He said he liked the Roku and like the 99 cent movie channel.. Does the Fire TV have the same setup as the Roku?
Thanks guys!
Of course, Id be rooting it and downloading that XBMC that I seen. Again I dont know much about it, but it seems like most recommend to do that and root the unit. I seen an OTA blocker too... thanks agian.
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The Fire TV is primarily a video streaming device. Meaning, it plays videos from the internet. The videos it streams can come from several different sources. Some are free, some cost money per video, and some require a paid monthly subscription which lets you play any videos in the library at no additional cost.
Here are some of the most popular video sources used on the FIre TV:
Amazon Prime Instant Video: This costs $99 a year and allows you to view any number of movies and TV shows in their library. This also comes with other perks from Amazon, like free 2 day shipping on most orders.
Amazon Instant Video: This is Amazon's movie and TV show purchase and rental service. You can buy movies or TV shows individually. Once purchased, you can play them as many times as you want. This it the digital equivalent to buying a DVD/Bluray and putting it on your shelf. This service also allows you to rent movies and TV shows. Renting gives you limited access to a movie or TV show; essentially enough access to watch the video once.
Netflix: For a monthly subscription, you get to watch any and all of the movies and TV shows in their library. The selection is better than Amazon Prime Instant Videos, but it's also more expensive considering there are no additional perks. It's strictly a video streaming service.
Hulu Plus: For a monthly subscription, you get access to their library of TV shows. Generally, TV shows will be available on Hulu Plus before they become available on other services.
Netflix and Hulu require that you install a free app on the Fire TV in order to access their videos. Where as, for Amazon Videos, you have direct access to them form the Fire TV's home screen.
You also have several free video options. These all require individual apps. These are services like YouTube, Pluto.tv, iFood.tv, Smithsonian Channel, Tubi, etc...
Lastly, you can play local videos stored on a PC in the house. This is what XBMC and Plex iare primarily used for.

Thanks. I already have Amazon Prime, so I can tag my dad on to that..
And thanks for the description.

mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks. I already have Amazon Prime, so I can tag my dad on to that..
And thanks for the description.
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You're welcome. If you already have Amazon Prime, then it seems like the Fire TV is a good option for your dad.
If your dad is not technologically savvy, or you're worried he may be confused with which videos are free (via Prime) and which ones have to be purchased, I would suggest installing rbox's mod which allows you to hide certain menu options. I have a guide here. This will allow you to hide the "Movies" and "TV" sections (where most of the content is not included free with Amazon Prime) and keep the "Prime Video" section (where all of the content is included free with Amazon Prime). You can also hide all the other sections (like, apps, games, photos, etc..) which it sounds like he will never use.
To install rbox's menu hidding mod, you have to be rooted, so be sure not to accidentaly block rooting during the inital setup process of the Fire TV.

Thanks again. If you dont mind, what all would you suggest to do to it when I receive it? Should I install Llama and that XBMC?
Also seems that Roku has more "misc" movie channels for free versus the Amazon Fire.. no?

Awesome summary from AFTVNews....
Want to add a few things:
-- Amazon prime videos (movies/tv shows) load way faster on FTV than on any other platform. I have PS3, Samsung Smart TV and Wii. It is a no contest when it comes to speed. So, if you are going to watch prime content, FTV is a much better option, just for this reason and even if you don't root it or load anything else like XBMC.
-- As mentioned before, you can buy/rent content from Amazon. Do keep in mind that even if you buy, you will only able to watch it as long as your Amazon account is in good standing, as in forever. If Amazon bars your account for any reason, all your buys will go poof.
-- FTV has a voice enabled search and works reasonably well.
-- If you have your cable subscription through a vendor that allows you to stream WatchESPN, you can download the app and watch all content on it through FTV (along with any other ESPN channels you subscribe to). This was the main and only reason I bought FTV (but now I know better to be happy with just ESPN, LOL)
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mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks again. If you dont mind, what all would you suggest to do to it when I receive it? Should I install Llama and that XBMC?
Also seems that Roku has more "misc" movie channels for free versus the Amazon Fire.. no?
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You can get all the "free" movie content if you install and use XBMC. Roku might have way higher number of gross apps/feed, but if you are not going to use it, why buy it? And FTV has so much more superior hardware.
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mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks again. If you dont mind, what all would you suggest to do to it when I receive it? Should I install Llama and that XBMC?
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As a personal preference, the least modifications you do on FTV, the less the chances of wrecking your FTV. I have accepted the trade off of a few more clicks to run XBMC over changing the launching behavior of my FTV. Just an opinion.

mroneeyedboh said:
Thanks again. If you dont mind, what all would you suggest to do to it when I receive it? Should I install Llama and that XBMC?
Also seems that Roku has more "misc" movie channels for free versus the Amazon Fire.. no?
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@dbdoshi added some great points. If you, or a family member has a cable subscription, your content selection increases because of apps like WatchESPN that let you watch for free if you already have a cable subscription with one of their participating providers.
Llama is primarily only used to reduce the number of clicks needed to get to sideloaded apps. I agree with dbdoshi and feel it's not worth the extra complexity just to save a few clicks.
XBMC is primarily useful for local videos on a hard drive or PC. There are some extensions for XBMC which let you stream more content for free, but most people install it to play their own collection of videos.
Lastly, yes, I agree that Roku has a wider selection of content sources than the Fire TV. I don't have much experience with Roku's, so I can't comment about the quality of their selection but it does seem larger.

Let me add a couple points here. First, you can't share Amazon Prime videos, the family share thing only covers the free 2-day shipping. This doesn't mean you can't give out your Amazon login/password, but if that person starts buying movies and such.... Roku has a boatload more apps, something like 1,700, but unless you are looking for some odd niche there really isn't much on Roku that you can't get on FTV. HBOGo being the biggie if you subscribe to HBO. Side-loading XBMC works great, plus gives you access to all the legal and questionable plug-ins. Between the XBMC plugins and the native FTV apps, I doubt there is anything available online you can't get.
I didn't bother rooting my FTV, and for a casual user I wouldn't recommend it. Sure, you can do nice things like change the launcher, customize the menus, or enable USB storage (something I hope Amazon does in a future update), and other things, but you don't need root to side load apps such as XBMC. I'd rather stay current with Amazon's updates and improvements than worry about blocking them or getting caught up in a cat & mouse game of root exploits.

Wifey bought me a FTV!

I currently use plex for my media management solution, which is fantastic. I have a quad processor server with 18TB of storage, 12TB usable as its configured for Raid6. I chose plex due to the fact that plexapps are available for my Samsung smart tvs, and for simplicity with my chromecast.
The wife knows my love of tinkering and that I've been eyeballing the AFTV for a while now. Can anyone provide some insight? I'm looking to further enhance my cord-cutting future as we are moving to South Korea next year and will need to rely on my server as well as streaming content for entertainment.
I'm tired of horrible firstrow streams for my football games, as well as UFC matches and indycar/rally races. Are there "alternatives" available with much improved quality?
Anything I should do first to the AFTV? How can I integrate it into my existing content delivery system?
Thanks in advance!
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cliff p said:
Anything I should do first to the AFTV? How can I integrate it into my existing content delivery system?
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Might want to see if you can root the Fire TV before you ever hook it up. This allows for harnessing the power of the device with XBMC and the addons that are available. The How to setup a new Fire TV without blocking Root guide is a great starting point. Otherwise, the Fire TV will primarily be an Amazon centric box. And where is the fun in that?

That was generally the idea (to root the device first before doing anything else with it).
When I first started looking into Media Servers, I worked very little with XBMC. A few friends with Plex suggested it to me, and it seems to fit the bill more for me. With that being said, can XBMC be integrated or coexist with PMS?
EDIT: Disregard the XBMC question, I did a quick search and found that I can install PlexBMC that will work with the PMS backend.

So I've rooted the AFTV, Installed BB and SuperSU, and XBMC. Added a few "add-ons" like 1Chan and some others. Pretty cool little device! Kinda wishing there were more HD capable streams for certain programs, since there isn't much difference streaming the actual website steam via my laptop to my TV via HDMI.
I may put it in my VPN route and see if I can get my NFL games in HD at least.
Quite honestly wondering if it was worth installing Plex on, since my Samsung TV already has Plex and is a bit more seamless. I may use the device in place of the Chromecast dongle I have in the bedroom, though.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for some higher quality feeds, etc?
Almost forgot: Themes for the XBMC? Is it more worthwhile to have XBMC autostart on boot? I don't have a subscription for Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, etc. I use Plex, and use it heavily with Sickbeard/Couchpotato/Headphones/Etc.
THX.

Take a look at the [LAUNCHER] XBMC for Fire TV (Root). This XBMC launcher replaces the Fire TV launcher and at the same time allows access to it if you were to have Amazon content.

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Take a look at the [LAUNCHER] XBMC for Fire TV (Root). This XBMC launcher replaces the Fire TV launcher and at the same time allows access to it if you were to have Amazon content.
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Works great! Thanks!
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Fire Tv & XBMC and Noob questions

Hi all,
I am glad I found this great forum and I hope I am posting on the correct subforum.
I am considering getting a Fire TV. It is currently at a great price on Amazon.de (84 euro), but since I want to replace my WD Live that i currently use, I want to have xbmc on it. On ebay there are many pre-rooted Fire TV with xbmc and add ons. but at an average of about 150 euro, I think it is stupid to buy them now if I can do it myself and if I can avoid rooting even better.
My main needs for the Fire TV (in priority irder) are :
1. SInce I am a Prime User of Amazon, I want to use Instant Video of Amazon
2. Stream HD video from my libraries from NAS drives
3. Other streaming add ons on xbmv like xStream, Navi-X, Sportsdevil
4. Web browsing, emulators, amazon apps
So my questions are ;
1. If I buy right now a new Fire TV, can I install xbmc using one of the guides without rooting it ? Are there sepcific models/versions of Fire TV that won't allow it ?
2. Can I use the streaming and other add ons of xbmc without rooting , or are there specific ones that require root ?
3. Do any of the streaming add ons using Bittorent ? In Germany while you currently have no issues with streaming or download , using torrents will get you quick and easy problems with the law. Feedback of german members is highly appreciated here.
Sorry for a very long first post, I hope the questions are clear and easy to answer. Please feel free to add anything you think it might be helpful in my case.
Many thanks and cheers !

Nf13 said:
Hi all,
I am glad I found this great forum and I hope I am posting on the correct subforum.
I am considering getting a Fire TV. It is currently at a great price on Amazon.de (84 euro), but since I want to replace my WD Live that i currently use, I want to have xbmc on it. On ebay there are many pre-rooted Fire TV with xbmc and add ons. but at an average of about 150 euro, I think it is stupid to buy them now if I can do it myself and if I can avoid rooting even better.
My main needs for the Fire TV (in priority irder) are :
1. SInce I am a Prime User of Amazon, I want to use Instant Video of Amazon
2. Stream HD video from my libraries from NAS drives
3. Other streaming add ons on xbmv like xStream, Navi-X, Sportsdevil
4. Web browsing, emulators, amazon apps
So my questions are ;
1. If I buy right now a new Fire TV, can I install xbmc using one of the guides without rooting it ? Are there sepcific models/versions of Fire TV that won't allow it ?
2. Can I use the streaming and other add ons of xbmc without rooting , or are there specific ones that require root ?
3. Do any of the streaming add ons using Bittorent ? In Germany while you currently have no issues with streaming or download , using torrents will get you quick and easy problems with the law. Feedback of german members is highly appreciated here.
Sorry for a very long first post, I hope the questions are clear and easy to answer. Please feel free to add anything you think it might be helpful in my case.
Many thanks and cheers !
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1/ No, you can install without need for root.
2/ No, addons install in XBMC does not require root.
3/ No, streaming protocol is different from bit torrent. You can choose to install an addon that acts as a bit torren client to download files and watch it, but it is your choice. No addons in XBMC will trick you into using bit torrent without your acknowledgment. If you are worry about piracy,you are better off paying for Hulu and such since using primewire or 1channel is the same as illegal torrenting.

vi6s said:
1/ No, you can install without need for root.
2/ No, addons install in XBMC does not require root.
3/ No, streaming protocol is different from bit torrent. You can choose to install an addon that acts as a bit torren client to download files and watch it, but it is your choice. No addons in XBMC will trick you into using bit torrent without your acknowledgment. If you are worry about piracy,you are better off paying for Hulu and such since using primewire or 1channel is the same as illegal torrenting.
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Many thanks for your answer :good:

Ordered it today, still at the same good price, but I have to wait a week for delivery as the demand was probably high (until 2 days ago it was next day delivery). They also had the Logitech K400 keyboard at a reduced price today so I added this as well, from what I read through the forum it is well supported. I have to search a bit more about game controller though.
I downloaded ADB, xbmc Gotham 13.2, copied all video files from various HDD to the NAS drives, and now we wait....

You are going to love it. I was using a WD Live TV unit previously as well. It did not have support for Amazon Prime and it was very slow when loading directories with a lot of files. The Fire TV with XBMC/Kodi loaded is a great replacement!

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You are going to love it. I was using a WD Live TV unit previously as well. It did not have support for Amazon Prime and it was very slow when loading directories with a lot of files. The Fire TV with XBMC/Kodi loaded is a great replacement!
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I am quite excited to be honest, amazon also send me an email that it will arrive today instead of Monday as originally planned (so now I have to find somewhere to send my wife and the kids until I set everything up , a day pass at theme park probably )
The lack of Amazon Video and the speed was the main reason for me too. Especially after the root on WD to use Movie Sheets for the movies it became slower that death ...
As I am not familiar with xbmc, if I have a movie file , named after the movie (as it appears on imdb), is there an add on that creates a movie sheet (info, thumbnail, etc) or do I have to create them manually ? Any link will also help.
Cheers

Really enjoying it so far !
Everything runs smooth and I found the answer for anything xbmc related in the xbmc forums.
Sideloading apps was extremely easy following one of the guides found, the only issue (if you can call it "issue") was the command :
adb install blahblah.apk
it failed because of multiple devices. I run adb devices and it was an emulator-5554. Did some research you can either kill it or use this command :
adb -s <Fire TV IP: Port> install blahblah.apk instead and it works like a charm.
Hope it helps if someone faces this issue.
Cheers !

jpage101 said:
You are going to love it. I was using a WD Live TV unit previously as well. It did not have support for Amazon Prime and it was very slow when loading directories with a lot of files. The Fire TV with XBMC/Kodi loaded is a great replacement!
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Curious how you use this as a replacement local streamer over WD TV Live.
I have WD, it's UI is terrible, BUT. I need full non transcoded blu-ray video(H.264,VC-1), 7.1 DTS-MA and True-HD sound. Am I missing something or is none of this really possible with Fire?
Not trying to be a jerk, but want to make sure I am not missing something about the Fire. If so PLEASE fill me in.

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Curious how you use this as a replacement local streamer over WD TV Live.
I have WD, it's UI is terrible, BUT. I need full non transcoded blu-ray video(H.264,VC-1), 7.1 DTS-MA and True-HD sound. Am I missing something or is none of this really possible with Fire?
Not trying to be a jerk, but want to make sure I am not missing something about the Fire. If so PLEASE fill me in.
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As local streamer, I use xbmc and NAS drives and it works perfectly. I don't have the same needs in sound, so I am more than ok with the formats supported. H.264, VC-1 is supported afaik.
Cheers

Nf13 said:
As local streamer, I use xbmc and NAS drives and it works perfectly. I don't have the same needs in sound, so I am more than ok with the formats supported. H.264, VC-1 is supported afaik.
Cheers
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Interesting specs say vc1 but ...
according to this http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV it dont work nor does dtsma passthrough. Too bad.

Custom firmware for local files someday?

The first time that I read about FireTV I was excited, so much power in a tiny box and I was hoping to replace my aging WDTV live for good. I'm one of those guys whom prefers local media and some quality so I'm not into the streaming bandwagon also broadband speed still a little expensive and slow in my country.
So with that in mind, I would like to ask you guys, do you believe that someday soon would be able to homebrew the fireTV for a modified OS which allow real local content (without the need for Plex).
I would like to know the possibilities for this in a near future, near future being before this year end for example.
Regards

Nehemoth said:
The first time that I read about FireTV I was excited, so much power in a tiny box and I was hoping to replace my aging WDTV live for good. I'm one of those guys whom prefers local media and some quality so I'm not into the streaming bandwagon also broadband speed still a little expensive and slow in my country.
So with that in mind, I would like to ask you guys, do you believe that someday soon would be able to homebrew the fireTV for a modified OS which allow real local content (without the need for Plex).
I would like to know the possibilities for this in a near future, near future being before this year end for example.
Regards
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You can do that with Kodi no need for Plex unless you really like plex for example : SMB,DLNA (I use my nas server via SMB) plenty of ways

Oh no, no DLNA please. Tried several times with different options and there's always an issue with subtitles. I really like the WDTV but feels like slow to many times.

Nehemoth said:
Oh no, no DLNA please. Tried several times with different options and there's always an issue with subtitles. I really like the WDTV but feels like slow to many times.
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try nas server,I use buffalo linkstation. It even has torrent app

I have a Diskstation. It supports SMB, NFS and DLNA.

Thank you guys but still I would like to know something about my main cuestión.

Nehemoth said:
Thank you guys but still I would like to know something about my main cuestión.
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I don't think we understand what you meant by "a modified OS which allow real local content (without the need for Plex)." Do you wish to connect a USB hard drive and store your files there? You can do that if your Fire TV is rooted. I believe what others were saying is that you don't need plex at all since Kodi (XBMC) can stream files locally or over a network without the need for transcoding. Usually people need plex because the device doesn't support the right codecs or doesn't have the processing speed. (Roku for example.) The Kodi app can handle pretty much any video format you throw at it, so no need for plex. Just point it to a SMB, NFS, or DLNA server and it just works.

Sorry, my bad English as Always. Image that I could be able to load on a FireTV a custom version of Android or something else, which transforms the firetv in a local media server ala WDTV and also support to apps like Netflix

If I understand you correctly, you're going to want to run a variant of XBMC - either kodi or SPMC.
Side load SPMC and see if it works for you.
Do you have the ability to root? You cannot add external USB HDD directly to the fire TV without root. However, you can add a USB HDD to your computer and share it to your fire TV for playback.

Nehemoth said:
Sorry, my bad English as Always. Image that I could be able to load on a FireTV a custom version of Android or something else, which transforms the firetv in a local media server ala WDTV and also support to apps like Netflix
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I'm thinking you want the fire TV to store local media files via USB HDD and you want it to act as a server as well for your other devices.
The answer is yes, BUT you MUST BE ROOTED. AND rootable fire TVs are getting harder to come by so if you're in the US I'd start looking now at bestbuy and staples.
If you're not in the US you can't get a rootable one in stores. EBay might be your only chance and you will pay a lot more. If craigslist is an option, I've found items to run cheaper there but of course there is less options and more traveling on your part.

Running fire tv as a server is useless it has 8gb of storage.. without root it's even worse.. nas server is best and easiest and most comfortable option. I also have Samsung home sync before I got fire tv it has 1tb drive I also have root on it but it's almost useless no netflix,hulu nothing.
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Watching Live TV

Hi All.
the purpose of this thread is to combine all the information we have about watching Live TV on our devices.
I'm purposely avoiding Kodi addons, they seem to come and go due to their questionable legality, and it's a hassle to keep up, there are already multiple webpages discussing them.
here goes nothing.
Proper Live TV
1) Android TV Live channels
it's in my opinion the best way to watch TV on Android TV devices, the necessary framework, but does not seem to be popular at this stage
2) NHK World app.
NHK world is a fantastic app to watch NHK World TV, recently made Android TV compatible, it does not yet integrate to Live Channels, I have sent NHK an email requesting for this, but have not heard back.
If you support this, please send them an email, the more the merrier.
3) Cumulus TV.
This app allows you to manually enter HLS streams into Live channels, it's got great potential (if you have some HLS streams) but it does not work properly at this stage. developer is working on fixing it.
If you have any HLS streams or m3u8 links, please contribute.. if this takes off make we can share json files.
4) Mediahhh
App for UK Live TV channels, works great, not available in the play store, does not integrate with Live channels unfortunately. emailed them but no response.
Semi Live TV
1) Pluto TV.
Great app, makes channels from youtube sources, and integrates to Live channels. try it!
2) Haystack TV
Has a few Live USA channels, doesn't integrate with Live channels.
3) Class6ix news
Has news channels tailored to your location, I believe it works in US, UK and AUS
thats about it from me..
anyone?

Just wanted to point out that the current version of CumulusTV from the play store (1.4.10) as you mentioned doesn't work.
It has been fixed for a week now with the release of version 1.5.1
Two options to get the latest release is either sign up for beta's on the play store by just visiting this link:
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.felkertech.n.cumulustv
OR, get the latest compiled APK direct from github and sidelaod it
https://github.com/Fleker/CumulusTV/releases

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6) Haystack TV
Has a few Live USA channels, integrates with Live channels.
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How did you get this to integrate with Live Channels?

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How did you get this to integrate with Live Channels?
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+1 on this... I have Haystack TV and it doesn't integrate with Live Channels. It'd be great if it did.

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+1 on this... I have Haystack TV and it doesn't integrate with Live Channels. It'd be great if it did.
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my bad, it doesnt.
send the devs an email from the email support on the play store.. maybe they'll do it.

There are a bunch of apk's floating around here's a link to some http://justnewtech.com/android-apk/
The best way to watch live tv for me is through kodi. There are a bunch of free addons-Castaway,DNA TV etc. They are pretty stable. If you want something that's really stable try DEXTER TV in kodi. The pro version cost about 5 bucks a month and has 390 live channels in HD.

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There are a bunch of apk's floating around here's a link to some http://justnewtech.com/android-apk/
The best way to watch live tv for me is through kodi. There are a bunch of free addons-Castaway,DNA TV etc. They are pretty stable. If you want something that's really stable try DEXTER TV in kodi. The pro version cost about 5 bucks a month and has 390 live channels in HD.
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Hi there.
thanks, most of these are for on demand watching.
what I'm looking for is live TV.
some are "live TV" basically just point to an HLS stream from somewhere on the internet, but the selection of streams is very poor.
ccloud is one of these addons that is supposed to be the best atm, but it has gone downhill to the point of being unusable.

xd4d3v said:
Hi there.
thanks, most of these are for on demand watching.
what I'm looking for is live TV.
some are "live TV" basically just point to an HLS stream from somewhere on the internet, but the selection of streams is very poor.
ccloud is one of these addons that is supposed to be the best atm, but it has gone downhill to the point of being unusable.
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Mobdro ( has ads)and Husham ( no ads) live tv apk are live tv apps. Hushams app has 600 channels.
Most people know that kodi addons go up and down however Dexter is the most stable. 5 bucks a month for 390 channels ( most in HD) is cheap. The "donation" is for the equipment to keep the channels going. Other IPTV services charge alot more. I don't know of any other live TV apps that are free!!! apert from the first two apps I mentioned, but they only stream in SD. I'm not affiliated with Dexter but so far that's the most stable source I've found. BTW there are way better addons than cCloud.
Cheers.

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Mobdro ( has ads)and Husham ( no ads) live tv apk are live tv apps. Hushams app has 600 channels.
Most people know that kodi addons go up and down however Dexter is the most stable. 5 bucks a month for 390 channels ( most in HD) is cheap. The "donation" is for the equipment to keep the channels going. Other IPTV services charge alot more. I don't know of any other live TV apps that are free!!! apert from the first two apps I mentioned, but they only stream in SD. I'm not affiliated with Dexter but so far that's the most stable source I've found. BTW there are way better addons than cCloud.
Cheers.
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Do they integrate with the Google Live Channels app? After testing some of the ones listed in the earlier directory I can say most of the ones I tried not only did not integrate, they did not work half of the time or required the use of a touchpad or airmouse simply to navigate around. Disappointing.

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Do they integrate with the Google Live Channels app? After testing some of the ones listed in the earlier directory I can say most of the ones I tried not only did not integrate, they did not work half of the time or required the use of a touchpad or airmouse simply to navigate around. Disappointing.
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Yeah, I agree with you, very dissapointing.
Although, we can sort of expect this of some dodgy app, but for mainstream apps, this should not happen. It's not that difficult to change the app for proper Android TV controls, and Live channels. they probably can't be bothered due to the low user base.

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Mobdro ( has ads)and Husham ( no ads) live tv apk are live tv apps. Hushams app has 600 channels.
Most people know that kodi addons go up and down however Dexter is the most stable. 5 bucks a month for 390 channels ( most in HD) is cheap. The "donation" is for the equipment to keep the channels going. Other IPTV services charge alot more. I don't know of any other live TV apps that are free!!! apert from the first two apps I mentioned, but they only stream in SD. I'm not affiliated with Dexter but so far that's the most stable source I've found. BTW there are way better addons than cCloud.
Cheers.
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Hi Sumer.
yeah, ccloud is very poor, but are there better addons for Live TV?
Dexter is a netflix kind of service, not Live TV..

bornagainpenguin said:
Do they integrate with the Google Live Channels app? After testing some of the ones listed in the earlier directory I can say most of the ones I tried not only did not integrate, they did not work half of the time or required the use of a touchpad or airmouse simply to navigate around. Disappointing.
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You can cast the apps from your phone. The Husham app and mediahhh work with the shield remote. You're more than welcome to find other apps and post them.
Cheers
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xd4d3v said:
Hi Sumer.
yeah, ccloud is very poor, but are there better addons for Live TV?
Dexter is a netflix kind of service, not Live TV..
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DEXTER is live TV!!!! it also has some 24/7 channels. please do your research. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8FD2n55kSQ

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You can cast the apps from your phone. The Husham app and mediahhh work with the shield remote. You're more than welcome to find other apps and post them.
Cheers
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DEXTER is live TV!!!! it also has some 24/7 channels. please do your research. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8FD2n55kSQ
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Hey sumer, don't take it personal. We're just disappointed at the general options out there not about your comments.Thanks for the input

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There are a bunch of apk's floating around here's a link to some http://justnewtech.com/android-apk/
The best way to watch live tv for me is through kodi. There are a bunch of free addons-Castaway,DNA TV etc. They are pretty stable. If you want something that's really stable try DEXTER TV in kodi. The pro version cost about 5 bucks a month and has 390 live channels in HD.
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Dexter has been down for a bit now. I cannot log on or retrieve my password. I even tried to create a new account and the system will not allow me because it says my account already exist but when I try to retrieve my pw it says no active account

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Dexter has been down for a bit now. I cannot log on or retrieve my password. I even tried to create a new account and the system will not allow me because it says my account already exist but when I try to retrieve my pw it says no active account
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Dexter has been down for a bit now. I cannot log on or retrieve my password. I even tried to create a new account and the system will not allow me because it says my account already exist but when I try to retrieve my pw it says no active account
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You should bring that up in the FB group or email them. Are you using DEXTER PRO? The regular Dexter(non pro) will be down for a awhile. Like any other addon there is sometimes a server overload however the Dexter team is good at getting it( pro version) up an running quickly. Clean your cache in kodi that may help.
LWS, UK turks, Channel Pear, Ares streams, Khaoz live tv and Navi X have live TV channels. Not every channel works but you can save the ones that do to your favorites.
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Cheers

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You should bring that up in the FB group or email them. Are you using DEXTER PRO? The regular Dexter(non pro) will be down for a awhile. Like any other addon there is sometimes a server overload however the Dexter team is good at getting it( pro version) up an running quickly. Clean your cache in kodi that may help.
LWS, UK turks, Channel Pear, Ares streams, Khaoz live tv and Navi X have live TV channels. Not every channel works but you can save the ones that do to your favorites.
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Cheers
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Yes, I have brought it up on Facebook group and no I'm not on PRO but I've bee trying to but it won't allow me to register

hpric said:
Yes, I have brought it up on Facebook group and no I'm not on PRO but I've bee trying to but it won't allow me to register
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Dang that sucks. I remember i had some issues in the beginning.I think i had to register through their webpage (not the FB) then it worked after that.
Anyway there is a custom kodi build called the Gears of War and Gears of War TV. It has live tv channels that are exclusive to the build. it's free this offers some good stuff. The build is being released later tonight. Oh it gets updated at least once a week sometimes twice so the channels are pretty stable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWPBg6_itfc

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtYtGM0Cqqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lagdHmxDJy8
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for live channels
seems it will only sync with haystack and pluto
anymore that yall know of that will work with Live Channels?

There's a few apps for the HDHomeRun devices. I forget the names since I quit using them when I sold my old HDHomeRun. The cool part with the HDHomeRun is that it would let you watch any cable channel (You could also use an antenna) you have including DRM ones playback in Live Channels. There's also PuppetMaster.TV which has news from around the world and some live streams from the International Space Station. The Weather Network which gives you nationwide weather reports but shows your local weather on screen overlaid on top of it. Bloomberg and Haystack TV both support Live Channels now as well.
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Also has anyone had any luck with configuring Cumulus TV? I can't get it to work with any IPTV streams.