Boot Loader - Amazon Fire Phone

Hello all,
Given that Amazon has just slashed the price on what is in reality a powerful phone, what is the likelihood that we could see an unlocked bootloader (from the community) in the near future. CM would really make this phone fly.

I got the Fire Phone, as it was a $100 for me (i consider the 99$ amazon prime that comes with it, like renewing my existing one that expires on Jan 1st anyway).
As an excited developer, I actually am planning to devote time to trying to flash Custom Recoveries (or at least boot them), and getting Android Lollipop on it. Those are my 2 goals. I have no clue if I will achieve them, as this is my first strong attempt at making something custom, but I will try. I have android 5.0 and fireos sources downloaded. I will try to pull all the system level stuff on my phone from it (incase I need drivers or something), and take a stab. If I can get Lollipop stock working, I will then move to CM 12 and do that.
My goal is for 5.x support. If I can pull it off, I don't want to foray into anything less than Android 5.0.
Wish me luck.
As for bootloader unlock, I haven't checked, but it might be as simple as fastboot oem unlock. Here's to hoping.

Great to hear! Thank you for dedicating your time, I am hopping after end of this semester I will be able to join in this endeavor.
Best of luck!

funkybassplayer said:
Great to hear! Thank you for dedicating your time, I am hopping after end of this semester I will be able to join in this endeavor.
Best of luck!
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Just a heads up, the bootloader is locked down pretty tight. Unlocking it will require finding and using an exploit. there is a guy on the HDX forum that found an exploit for that Tablet that would work for the Fire Phone, but he decided for legal reasons to not release it anywhere, so both devices are in limbo. Wish i knew even at which exploit to look into and I would do the rest myself.

if it is locked so tight, what is the point of giving away as open source

Daegalus said:
As for bootloader unlock, I haven't checked, but it might be as simple as fastboot oem unlock. Here's to hoping.
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lol, you must be joking.

dimex said:
lol, you must be joking.
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Umm, no, not at the time of that post. If you read the post i made after that, you would have seen that I actually checked and found out it wasn't the case. Way to jump the gun.

Daegalus said:
Umm, no, not at the time of that post. If you read the post i made after that, you would have seen that I actually checked and found out it wasn't the case. Way to jump the gun.
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If it was as simple as a 'fastboot oem unlock' we wouldn't be here half a year later discussing this to begin with. All I'm saying, of course that wasn't going to work.

Glad you're attempting this. If I can help, please let me know. Unless people smarter than me can unlock the bootloader, you might be creating one great virtual machine that won't make it to this nice piece of hardware.
I bought this phone to learn more about the same things you plan to do. I dislike the fireos (and the glitches in the use of the side-loaded gapps) enough to return the phone, but the cheap price, dreaming of a decent OTA update in January, and folks like you working on it makes me think I'll hang on to it as a backup.

I just got a fire phone as well. Hope this forum will get more traction as Amazon release its FireOS source...

"My name is 4.1chan, I will hack this device because I am great developer. Trust me, I took a Jawa class in Kindergarten and passed."
Seriously though, can't see this happening any time soon. You need experienced people, not someone who says they can do it even though they don't even know the boot loader is locked like Ford Knox. Big talk has always led to big disappointment in my experience on xda-developers. Don't get your hopes up, the phone is basically rubbish as it is (even more with simlock), so don't just buy because it is cheap.

Agreed, I am not expecting much on the unlocking front. If it happens great, if not oh well. But I would not call this phone rubbish, it's fast cheap and runs everything I need perfectly. Sure it doesn't have that perfect Android feel, but who cares. Plus the auto scroll feature is pretty handy.

The phone's spec is great for the $200 unlocked price but NO ROM, NO BUY MAN.

funkybassplayer said:
Agreed, I am not expecting much on the unlocking front. If it happens great, if not oh well. But I would not call this phone rubbish, it's fast cheap and runs everything I need perfectly. Sure it doesn't have that perfect Android feel, but who cares. Plus the auto scroll feature is pretty handy.
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Agreed! An excellent phone for $100! Can't beat that price. Runs what I need as well once you install Google framework, services and play store.
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*sigh* nevermind, I just leave this here, since THIS is a thread about the bootloader (thanks for trying, Mod. ^^)
Viperise152 said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd-6-and-7-receive-bootloader-unlock-and-twrp/
Will this help us Fire Phone users?
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Eiermann78 said:
I already tried this and CuberHDX.py, too but it fails with Unlock Code is NOT correct
Maybe the Steps would be right, but i don´t know how to figure out the correct code for the fire phone.
Tested at Fire OS 3.5 and 4.6.1
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@ Viperise152 & Eggmän78 Sadly: No, it won't help. The unlock for the 6" and 7" is based on the HDX bootloader unlock method. This vuln. was already fixed for the FirePhone by Amazon.

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[Q] Willing to join in on bounty for BL unlock and then CM on Fire Phone?

I don't have a Fire Phone, I have a Nexus 5.
With that said, I'm a religious Amazon Prime shopper, and honestly, the specs on this thing are pretty good. With pricing as it is right now, this could be extremely attractive as a means to offset the cost of a Prime membership.
I'm guessing it could also be a potential money maker for reselling. $200 for a Snapdragon 800 phone with stock-ish Android on it sounds good to me, if I didn't have any flashing/rooting know-how.
Want to start a bounty?
There needs to be a bootloader unlock first before any ROMs can be considered, so I think any bounty would need to start with the bootloader first
clearly a tough question to answer, but what is the likelihood of that happening? I may replace a couple phones with the deal going on now if the consensus (by those who actually have experience with this type of thing) is that in a little bit one could overcome the bootloader and install a custom rom.
centenary said:
There needs to be a bootloader unlock first before any ROMs can be considered, so I think any bounty would need to start with the bootloader first
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This is not necessarily the case: as long as you have root, you can load other Android versions after the phone is booted. This has for example been done on the Motorola Defy back in the day. (They called it 2nd-init)
domenukk said:
This is not necessarily the case: as long as you have root, you can load other Android versions after the phone is booted. This has for example been done on the Motorola Defy back in the day. (They called it 2nd-init)
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Fair enough, though my basic point was simply that we can't jump straight to custom ROMs, some initial development needs to happen first. In your case, we would need a root method to be developed (since 3.6.8 can no longer be downgraded to 3.5.0) and a 2nd init package developed. Any bounty should target that first before targeting custom ROMs.
Put me down for $10. for root & unlocked boot loader. Another $10. for CM12!
Same! $20 for CM before 2014 ends.
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rbeavers said:
Put me down for $10. for root & unlocked boot loader. Another $10. for CM12!
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Me too.
As OP, I'll throw down $100
So is there anyone capable of unlocking the bootloader? Are there methods left to try? Where'd be the best place to petition Amazon to unlock the bootloader so they can unload these phones from their inventory? The phone is back to $200 today, if we could unlock the bootloader and load ROMs, this would become a very popular phone.
I'm in for $20.
Since it looks like no one is trying to unlock the bootloader the hard way... I made a petition directly to Amazon. Please add your signature and spread the word so that Amazon knows that people would like this to happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/petition-posted-to-change-org-to-unlock-t3009342
$10 for cm
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$5 for CM

New root exploit soon?

https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/117742/
There's no exploit example, but maybe there's a new hope for getting root on the Fire TV Stick and newer Fire TVs. Can anyone confirm the Fire TV has the vulnerable code?
This is very exciting! Crossing my fingers!
Oh boy. This one is BIG. If the Fire TV uses this library, it's just a matter of time.
http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2015-1474/
Exciting news!!!
Sizzlechest said:
Oh boy. This one is BIG. If the Fire TV uses this library, it's just a matter of time.
http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2015-1474/
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But if I read this right this affects only 5.0 devices. And AFTV is not 5.0 AFAIK.
Ultraschorsch said:
But if I read this right this affects only 5.0 devices. And AFTV is not 5.0 AFAIK.
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You didn't read it right. It affects 5.0 and below.
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You didn't read it right. It affects 5.0 and below.
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Yes, I read through the Android 4.4 sourcecode. The bug is already there. Unfortunately I am no CXX and security expert, so I hope someone else writes an exploit. Should not be too hard.
Not to discount any other dev, but rbox seems to be the guy that would know if its poossible. He seems to be the man when it comes to the Fire TV. Why not just ask rbox? He can probably give you a straight foward answer and you wouldn't have to speculate anymore. Just ask rbox, cause I am pretty sure he would know if it would work.
porkenhimer said:
Not to discount any other dev, but rbox seems to be the guy that would know if its poossible. He seems to be the man when it comes to the Fire TV. Why not just ask rbox? He can probably give you a straight foward answer and you wouldn't have to speculate anymore. Just ask rbox, cause I am pretty sure he would know if it would work.
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You mention @rbox so many times, but you don't really mention him at the same time. Want his attention? Mention @rbox
its still not going to fix the efuse. amazon really lost my support when that happened.. fireTV is a bedroom box now and i've moved to the 100$ M8 amlogic box running openelec.. if you want something for pure XBMC this is a much better option and fully supports different refresh rates.
Right it won't fix the efuse but I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one still using the old firmware without efuse and hoping for software root...
gamer765 said:
You mention @rbox so many times, but you don't really mention him at the same time. Want his attention? Mention @rbox
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I do not want his attention at all. I was simply informing people that if they wanna a quick reliable answer that rbox would probably be the one to ask. I have said several times that I could care less about rooting my Fire TV. I just know how these threads pan out, they usually end up in arguements over wheather or not its possible, so I was trying to give them a quick solution to their question. If they wanna now if its possible they could probably get an answer from rbox and there would be no more speculation and nobody would have to eventually get mad when someone says it won't work. He is a reliable source so why wouldn't they wanna ask him? If I mention him it means I mentioned him period. Yes I mentiond him, cause without a doubt he is probably considered the top dev for the Fire TV. No harm in mentioning him or trying to point people in the right direction to ge an answer. If they ask him today and he responds with a definative answer today, they have their answer and there will be no more wondering.
From what I read, this alone isn't enough to gain root. You need to combine this with other exploit(s) to get it. I've read that there is a forthcoming proof of concept that uses it. So we just have to wait and see. But... hope is not lost totally for people with the fire tv with the fuse blown. Before I had the unlock working, I was working on safestrap for the fire tv. Safestrap allows you to boot to recovery with a locked bootloader. So if this results in root for the newer firetvs with the blown fuse, making a safestrap package is a possibility. No promises on when or if it would actually happen. As for that happening with the stick... highly unlikely (from me) because it's a completely different architecture from the Fire TV.
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From what I read, this alone isn't enough to gain root. You need to combine this with other exploit(s) to get it. I've read that there is a forthcoming proof of concept that uses it. So we just have to wait and see. But... hope is not lost totally for people with the fire tv with the fuse blown. Before I had the unlock working, I was working on safestrap for the fire tv. Safestrap allows you to boot to recovery with a locked bootloader. So if this results in root for the newer firetvs with the blown fuse, making a safestrap package is a possibility. No promises on when or if it would actually happen. As for that happening with the stick... highly unlikely (from me) because it's a completely different architecture from the Fire TV.
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RBox, thanks for chiming in. Many of us are hoping for a FireTV Stick root. I guess we'll have to wait and see like you said. Hopefully we'll hear something soon! Any particular forum we can keep an eye on besides this one?
E--Man said:
RBox, thanks for chiming in. Many of us are hoping for a FireTV Stick root. I guess we'll have to wait and see like you said. Hopefully we'll hear something soon! Any particular forum we can keep an eye on besides this one?
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I had googled the CVE number and found a thread on one of the samsung forums here that they were discussing it.
E--Man said:
RBox, thanks for chiming in. Many of us are hoping for a FireTV Stick root. I guess we'll have to wait and see like you said. Hopefully we'll hear something soon! Any particular forum we can keep an eye on besides this one?
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This thread is full of Samsung Note 4 users salivating for a new root exploit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/galaxy-note-4-root-progress-t2961974/page111
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This thread is full of Samsung Note 4 users salivating for a new root exploit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/galaxy-note-4-root-progress-t2961974/page111
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Ahh yes, because the AT&T ones come with a locked Bootloader I heard about that... They (we) all deserve it too because we paid for the device!
If the method to root is similar *and* it is possible, then its just a matter of time...
Watch defy. Closed bootloader is sad.
But no Problem at all.
2nd init is long time happened
We need the right dev.
Quarks is the superman
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Ahh yes, because the AT&T ones come with a locked Bootloader I heard about that... They (we) all deserve it too because we paid for the device!
If the method to root is similar *and* it is possible, then its just a matter of time...
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Just because you buy a device does not mean that you deserve to be able to do something that the makers of it never intended it to do. Its like someone goin out and buying an RX7 and saying it deserves to go faster than a Lambo. Any mildly intelligent person would have never bought the Mazda if they wanted it to outrun a Lambo, cause they would know ahead of time its not made to outrun a Lambo. I can understand why people wanna root. I even have rooted devices, but to get mad because you cannot root a device makes zero sense. You knew Amazon did not want you to root it before you bought it, so why complain now? You deserve many things in life simply by being human, but a rooted Fire TV is not on the list of things that anyone deserves. Look at it like this, if root never comes too the newer firmwares, you will forget about when you buy your next device. I must admit I was kinda irked when I read that some Fire TVs cannot be rooted, but i took my chances and bought it anyway, and now I have a nonrootable device, and its absoluely not a big deal. I knew ahead of time what I was getting into and if I get root one day that will be fine, but if I don't I am still fine wiith that too. My Fire TV does everything I need it to do without root so its really not a big deal. I have noticed after I got a little older that the alure of cool apps and cool mods have worn away. I no longer care how cool my Android devices look or what cool tweaks I can use, I simply just want a device that does what its supposed to do. I have done so much "cool stuff" on Android devices that I am actually burnt out. I don't even carry my cell anymore. I have a Galaxy Note that has never been outside except for when UPS dropped it off. Trust me, not having root for your Android device is not gonna have any negative effects on your life if it does not happen.
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Just because you buy a device does not mean that you deserve to be able to do something that the makers of it never intended it to do. Its like someone goin out and buying an RX7 and saying it deserves to go faster than a Lambo. Any mildly intelligent person would have never bought the Mazda if they wanted it to outrun a Lambo, cause they would know ahead of time its not made to outrun a Lambo.
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That is a terrible example. Since we buy the devices we should be able to do what we want with them, similar with cars. We buy cars and since we bought them, we can customize them as we wish. Last I checked, there was nothing in place from stopping me from popping the hood open and doing what I wish with the engine or interior.
Your poor example is akin to saying I bought a cheap outdated phone like an Alcatel and saying it deserves to be faster than an HTC One M8. Learn to troll better.

s-off and bootloader unlock question

Hi all!
Just picked up an M9 this week... Had an M8 prior to that. I've been reading through the forums and spent some time on the M8 forums flashing, testing, and customizing the phone with Roms. I've been reading about the M9 and have noticed some mention that Verizon is firm about a locked bootloader and all. I was curious how on the M8, S-off and unlocking the bootloader was achieved if Verizon is so strict about keeping the phone locked down? Thanks for any responses in advance Looking forward to customizing this beast of a phone. Thank you to all the Devs that make all of this possible!
Cheers,
Ren
hackjunk said:
Hi all!
Just picked up an M9 this week... Had an M8 prior to that. I've been reading through the forums and spent some time on the M8 forums flashing, testing, and customizing the phone with Roms. I've been reading about the M9 and have noticed some mention that Verizon is firm about a locked bootloader and all. I was curious how on the M8, S-off and unlocking the bootloader was achieved if Verizon is so strict about keeping the phone locked down? Thanks for any responses in advance Looking forward to customizing this beast of a phone. Thank you to all the Devs that make all of this possible!
Cheers,
Ren
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The M8 was like this when it first came out. Yes Verizon is strict. From what I have been told they are trying to find a Temporary Root Exploit to be able to S-Off and all that goodness. We just have to be patient like the First Model M8 people were. Luckily when I first got my M8 it was rootable and stuff. So just be patient, or feel free to donate to jcase and beaups to help buy them energy drinks.
Everything @Balian67 said an also one tip. Don't do any updates till you are s-off as updates could cause exploit not to work if there is a exploit released.
Tigerstown said:
Everything @Balian67 said an also one tip. Don't do any updates till you are s-off as updates could cause exploit not to work if there is a exploit released.
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What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
Balian67 said:
What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
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Glad I read this thread, didn't even think about updates changing things for getting rooted and eventually S-Off!
chayos00 said:
Glad I read this thread, didn't even think about updates changing things for getting rooted and eventually S-Off!
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As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isnt bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isnt atrocious
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What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
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Balian67 said:
As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isn't bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isn't atrocious
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Yeah, I'm liking the stock setup, but I just like having that option of I wanted!
Balian67 said:
As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isnt bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isnt atrocious
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Totally agree with this!! Oh my lord is there a difference between Touchwiz and Sense. I did go back to Nova Launcher for the actual day-to-day launcher but the framework is...I dare to say...enjoyable to use. This is my first HTC phone, although I've worked on a few for friends, but I'm loving it so far.
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Totally agree with this!! Oh my lord is there a difference between Touchwiz and Sense. I did go back to Nova Launcher for the actual day-to-day launcher but the framework is...I dare to say...enjoyable to use. This is my first HTC phone, although I've worked on a few for friends, but I'm loving it so far.
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So i bought an M9 for myself and a S6 for my wife. This is first i have used touchwiz, it is not intuitive whatsoever. I am happy with my m9
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So i bought an M9 for myself and a S6 for my wife. This is first i have used touchwiz, it is not intuitive whatsoever. I am happy with my m9
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The way Samsung complicates settings drives me bonkers. It just doesn't need to be that complicated.
I'm in S6 trial week. Lol. So far not impressed. The so called super snappy touchwiz has a laggy keyboard whether stock or google. Also don't get me started on Chrome browser lag. Little things here and there that are non existent on even the m8. Overall its snappy but it still has annoying hicups here and there. Gonna take a miracle for me not to exchange for an m9 next weekend.
I had an M7 but not an M8 and had put AOSP on it because Sense just didn't feel right to me.
I bought an M9 because of the retail employee deal of no-contract for $300 and trading in for the new one every year. Ditched my G3 and haven't looked back. I love Sense 7. Not only is the UI smooth and really easy to use, the whole design language flows so well with the physical design of the phone. I don't think I'll be putting a custom ROM on this but I would love root for an ad blocker. I forgot how many ads there were on phones until I had to use this M9 without root.
Is anyone planning on making a bounty thread?
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I had an M7 but not an M8 and had put AOSP on it because Sense just didn't feel right to me.
I bought an M9 because of the retail employee deal of no-contract for $300 and trading in for the new one every year. Ditched my G3 and haven't looked back. I love Sense 7. Not only is the UI smooth and really easy to use, the whole design language flows so well with the physical design of the phone. I don't think I'll be putting a custom ROM on this but I would love root for an ad blocker. I forgot how many ads there were on phones until I had to use this M9 without root.
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No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
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No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
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Worth every $0.01 (2500 pennies).
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No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
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Well, it worked on the S5, that's for sure. Leading to the most prolific exploit in android history with Towelroot, so I wouldn't say pointless. I'm not sure the exact % that paid their pledges, but I paid mine. The ads in apps and webpages are really starting to bug me honestly, and I miss my battery-saving apps and xposed modules. I jumped to HTC from the S5 specially to restore bootloader access and ultimately CM-based ROM's to my phone experience. I guess leaving Verizon would have been a more thoughtful choice, but oh well. If anyone starts a bounty thread (and yes I know almost everyone thinks its a bad idea), I'm in.
That being said, much respect to the people working on a root method for us currently. You guys make my little phone hacking hobby possible, so thank you.
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Well, it worked on the S5, that's for sure. Leading to the most prolific exploit in android history with Towelroot, so I wouldn't say pointless. I'm not sure the exact % that paid their pledges, but I paid mine. The ads in apps and webpages are really starting to bug me honestly, and I miss my battery-saving apps and xposed modules. I jumped to HTC from the S5 specially to restore bootloader access and ultimately CM-based ROM's to my phone experience. I guess leaving Verizon would have been a more thoughtful choice, but oh well. If anyone starts a bounty thread (and yes I know almost everyone thinks its a bad idea), I'm in.
That being said, much respect to the people working on a root method for us currently. You guys make my little phone hacking hobby possible, so thank you.
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I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant...But I kept reading WHY and immediately understood and paid right away. It separates guys like us who pay their pledge from people who DON'T. As I am sure you would EASILY pay the $25 to get S-OFF. I know I would. I almost prefer it this way, because im pretty much sure it comes with tech support for those who need it. If only more americans stood by their word instead of promising things they would never fulfill. I know that this community has always been about contributing and free things to make all of our experiences better. I get that, but all too often, people take the work and claim it to be theirs. I remember a few devs (that I talked to a lot) had this problem with users of the Samsung Moment and HTC Evo 4G. So between all of the devs hard work not being appreciated (especially when they do this stuff for THEIR phone and they release it to us to enjoy and some people are always complaining or demanding features, yet they don't contribute by donating to the dev so they can buy energy drinks to keep their mind going, or beer to help relax them after they finished a massive update that fixed all the bugs and added features and stuff. Then people wonder why they have to pay $25. Well I have been a member of XDA for years, contributed a lot here or on irc chat, and I will gladly pay $25 to get S-OFF, Root, and Custom Recovery. Why? Because since the DAWN of xda, everyones phone has been made far better then what ANY manufacturer gives us. I mean seriously...I would have Android Lollipop on devices that Samsung or whoever has long gone moved on from. Why? Because of XDA, and the devs. I swear if everyone paid $25 these devs would be able to buy all sorts of devices to root for us. I know I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro, and an HTC. So I appreciate it, and you know what? I consider that $25 a donation to have root on devices period. Why? Because without the people who know what they're doing, I wouldn't be able to install xposed, make entire backups of my phone (so if the device fails while on warranty), I can EASILY restore my phone. I had that happen with my old HTC Evo 4G LTE. That phone broke 3 times on me and each replacement bestbuy gave me (2), all I had to do was get S-OFF flash a custom recovery, and do a "Restore" then all my texts were there, apps were there (with data), call logs were there. I can go on. That $25 is security for me. So saying all that, I will sit here as patient as I can be to get S-OFF and when the time comes to hit the pay button, there wont be a second thought. No regrets. No more stress. Any more Andybones roms to flash.
BOOM (pardon all the grammatical errors, yall get my point.............right?)
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I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant........................
100% on point, my friend. Well said. :good:
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Balian67 said:
I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant........................
100% on point, my friend. Well said. :good:
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I'm just chillin with my $25 in hand (figuratively).
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Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the verizon m9 yet?
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Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the verizon m9 yet?
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Doesn't seem like it and at this point it probably never will.
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[Q] Is the VZW G4 rootable/BL unlockable?

Anyone who can answer this for me? Didn't see any other threads for it.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Anyone who can answer this for me? Didn't see any other threads for it.
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Not yet but it's being worked on. Read starting from here.
Misterxtc said:
Not yet but it's being worked on. Read starting from here.
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Oh sh**, so do you think there will most definitely be a BL unlock in the coming weeks/months? By looks of that I can definitely say yes to root, but BL looks pretty solid too.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Oh sh**, so do you think there will most definitely be a BL unlock in the coming weeks/months? By looks of that I can definitely say yes to root, but BL looks pretty solid too.
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I can't answer that one, only time will tell. I came from Samsung so I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to bootloader unlocking. I would love to see it though.
Misterxtc said:
I can't answer that one, only time will tell. I came from Samsung so I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to bootloader unlocking. I would love to see it though.
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I'd be coming from Samsung too then, have a S6 and the battery bug has totally ruined it for me. I also have a $520 offer out on a G4 brand new in box right now, keeping my fingers crossed its accepted before someone else buys it haha. The root + potential of a BL unlock on the way definitely gave me the extra push I needed besides SD card and extra batteries!
I don't think any of the LGs ever were Bootloader unlocked. ALTHOUGH we just used hacks to bypass the lock and install a custom recovery. I had a Verizon G2 and rooting was pretty straight up, but Lollipop is a tough cookie to crack.
Fortunately the Stock LG roms are pretty slim and work very well. I used Stock LG on the G2 the entire 2 years. It was just super stable and had features that you couldn't find anywhere else.
No Root or BL access as of yet. All of our Devs have Root Access, it is just a matter of them attempting to package it in a safe and noob friendly process before the gen. population gets their hands on it, so just be patient and remember, Rome was not built in a day.

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I was able to root my Droid Razr M easily using KingoRoot. Thankfully with KingoRoot it is pretty easy to switch over to SuperSu.
Thanks for the info. It works perfectly.
Yes...if you know how to update the binaries. I spent a good week and a half researching and testing before I decided to root. I've never done anything like this before. I've never coded commands into a phone, much less knew what half of the tools were that did it. I'm really bad with anything above basic math, but my number organization skills are off the chart. Add to that a photographic memory, and this was a lot easier than I thought. I didn't run into any 'problems,' at lleast not in the terms of bricking my phone and what not. I was blown away to be honest. I'm having a great time even though I can't flash a custom ROM to mine The only problem I had was with the binaries and it was extremely difficult to find any information on how to install them. I came across a few websites here and there, but nothing worked and I was still stuck with that god awful KingRoot. Don't get me wrong...I'm thankful for it's existence, but it really is an annoyance with a horrible UI. But without an update to the binaries, you couldn't switch out KingRoot with SuperSU.
After nearly three days of searching, I finally came across this small, three paged thread, here on this very site. It was in fact the reason why I made an account here in the first place, to write a reply and thank the OP for his easy to follow instructions. Follow the procedure and you'll get those binaries into the right place and SuperSU properly installed and running in no time.
DragonFire1024 said:
I'm having a great time even though I can't flash a custom ROM to mine [/URL]
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Same here. Can't unlock the bootloader since I'm running the most recent OTA makes me mad.
Darth4212 said:
Same here. Can't unlock the bootloader since I'm running the most recent OTA makes me mad.
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Apparently SunShine can unlock bootloaders on certain devices...for US$25.00. Mine is compatible. I'm debating on getting it done. Not entirely sure yet.
Don't really want to waste $25, gotta be a way to do it by yourself.
Affangta said:
Thanks for the info. It works perfectly.
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No problem if your phone ever bricks just message me I have a stock ROM and all the tools to install it
Darth4212 said:
Don't really want to waste $25, gotta be a way to do it by yourself.
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As of the moment, there isn't, unless you have the codes. I've been looking and looking. So far nothing has worked.
However, there is this: I emailed Motorola on April 3rd. I was pretty straight forward and told them what I wanted. The bootloader unlocked. They replied today. They didn't say no, but they did direct me to a page, which I had already been to a few times, and the RAZR M is not listed.
Hi Jason,
Thank you for contacting Motorola.
We actually do not recommend unlocking bootloader. It is beyond our support, but what we can do is to provide you the link: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215.
We want to let you know that we value your business with us. If you have other questions regarding Motorola devices and services.
Best Regards,
Motorola Customer Care
Motorola Technical Support Team
Cryz
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So I wrote them back again saying this:
My phone is not listed and I've already done the steps here: https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth and my phone doesn't qualify for an unlock. I have a Droid Razr M. It's no longer scheduled for any software updates or patches. NOT allowing my bootloader to be unlocked serves no real purpose anymore. I can totally understand the aggravation it might have caused Motorola at the time, when the exploit was popular and worked on many phones, but my phone is now ancient in terms of technology of today. 2014, 3 years, nearly 4+, is a long time ago for technology, especially phones. Thank you for ypour continued time.
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Let's see what they say.
Darth4212 said:
Don't really want to waste $25, gotta be a way to do it by yourself.
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True. If it helps you decide, i used sunshine and it worked. This phone is aging though and to be honest its nearing its end of life. Running out of space due to increased app sizes and struggling to keep a smooth experience. Best android i've ever had though. Best of luck to you
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True. If it helps you decide, i used sunshine and it worked. This phone is aging though and to be honest its nearing its end of life. Running out of space due to increased app sizes and struggling to keep a smooth experience. Best android i've ever had though. Best of luck to you
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I agree. Best version of Android was KitKat. It had everything. I love my XT907. I don't really have any performance issues with it as I am constantly optimizing it in some form. But you are right: It's aging and if it is to be of any real use in the near future, unlocking the bootloader is what you should do.

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