Kodi session state lost - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Been using the knowledge on here for a few years, but could now do with a little help. I've had the UK AFTV since launch. Sadly, no root for me, but at least I can still side load XBMC. One thing that bugs me tho.
The source content's category (movie / TV shows) is always forgotten between sessions, so that the library mode is never usable. I'm presuming this is because of the lack of root access? Is there a way around this?
Also, if I can't have AFTV launch XBMC from boot, can I have a shortcut to it somewhere? I'm getting tired of going through settings to launch the app.

I'm not sure what you mean by "The source content's category (movie / TV shows) is always forgotten between sessions, so that the library mode is never usable."
Are you saying that your library isn't being displayed after you shutdown Kodi/XBMC then relaunch it? If that's the case that has nothing to do with not being rooted since that data is stored in the writable part of the /sdcard. If you're losing your library then your having some other issue.
As for launching Kodi/XBMC at launch you can use Llama.
You should also take a look at the wiki: http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV

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mousedown said:
Hi all,
Been using the knowledge on here for a few years, but could now do with a little help. I've had the UK AFTV since launch. Sadly, no root for me, but at least I can still side load XBMC. One thing that bugs me tho.
The source content's category (movie / TV shows) is always forgotten between sessions, so that the library mode is never usable. I'm presuming this is because of the lack of root access? Is there a way around this?
Also, if I can't have AFTV launch XBMC from boot, can I have a shortcut to it somewhere? I'm getting tired of going through settings to launch the app.
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This works...Sorry can't post a link yet. Look at youtube
How To Add Kodi/XBMC App To Your Amazon Fire TV Homescreen

Thanks for that. What i mean is that if I update a source content, i.e set content type to tv, film etc... If i go to set the content type again the state has been lost and its reset to default (nine). This then makes the library mode unavailable. In adittion, i am unable to 'set default conent for all' meaning that i need to disable subtitles on every new video.
Thanks again for any help.

I'm still not sure if I understand what your doing.
Are you referring to selecting the content type as in , Movies, TV Shows, etc from the main menu? And are talking about the View Type being reset?
I also don't think your using the term "Library Mode" in the correct way. If your movies, tv shows are showing up then your library is intact. However, if the way you see the thumbs, metadata, etc. is different, then that is the view type.
And about the subtitles, that is something completely different. It seems that either your confusing several things, or talking about several different issues. For the subtitles you may want to look at this: http://kodi.wiki/view/Subtitles

No, I'm not confused. Sorry I wasn't clear enough (There were a few typos on that last post!).
I refer LIBRARY MODE as being able to select from movies / TV shows. This is not possible for me. I am only able to watch content via FILE MODE. i.e. browsing network content. The reason for this is the problem I've stated. Setting the video source content is lost after it's been set. Kodi can therefore not scrape the content, and no movies / shows are listed. I've installed XBMC on dozens of different devices before and this is the 1st time i've seen this problem.
As for the subtitles, for me they are enabled by default for all videos and remain enabled, whatever I try. To me, the two problems are similar enough to be related. I suspect there are some write privileges affected somewhere? Any settings in the userdata files are ok.
Hope somebody can help resolve this.

There should be no write privilege issues, unless you made permission changes. I'm able to enable/disable subs without any problems. Just play a video, pull up the navigation menu, select video, then disable/enable subs, then set default for all videos (if needed). Works every time.
So, let's get this straight. Are you saying that when you select "Videos / Files" then you source, pull up the context menu, select Change Content that it shows None by the source type? or that when you pull up the context menu it only has Set Content?
If that's right, then somehow you have a folder permissions issue and relates back to your subtitle issue and you need to adb shell into the device and see what the permissions are set for your .kodi or .xbmc (as well as lower) folder are (/sdcard/Android/data/org.xbmc.xmbc or org.xbmc.kodi/files/.xbmc or .kodi). However, if you pull up the context menu, select Change Content and it still shows Movies for the type, then you just have a scrapping problem and you need to manually scrap.
It's hard to say what might have happened, but as I haven't heard anyone else having this problem or haven't seen it myself, it appears to be a one off issues only affecting your install.
EDIT: I just noticed this on github: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/5860 which maybe related to your content issue.
Try the 12/03 Nightly when it is pushed out, the fix should be merged into that build.

It's definitely a scraping problem. I can choose set content on the video source, select Movie, select ok. The menu closes, you can see the drop down of the scraper begin... then nothing. If I go back into set content... then the content is not set to Movie. This is the same for any content type, and any scraper.
I've just un installed kodi 13.2 and installed SPMC 13.3.3 but the problem is exactly the same on that too. My sources are all via smb://
I use a mysql db in advanced settings but never had any issues with it before - my PC is using 13.2 with out issue also.
*Resolved*
It was failing on writing to the db (reason unknown). Have reverted advanced settings to use local db and all is well. A shame it can't be shared tho. Do you know if it's possible?

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XBMC App for Ouya working well on Fire TV

I wanted to post here since this is the "Apps" category for Fire TV...
By following the XBMC wiki for FIre TV, I got XBMC running in just 3 minutes.
> Wiki info page- http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Amazon_Fire_TV
My SMB share was discoverable and my library was populated just a few minutes later.
I've verified good video and audio playback on SD, 720p, 1080p videos. Scanning and skipping works well in video playback too.
The only thing I continue to stumble with is that pressing the "Home" button returns you to the Fire TV homescreen, backgrounding XBMC.
I haven't yet found a way to create a homescreen or "Recents" shortcut for XBMC, so it's a chore to open it every time by navitgating to Settings > Applications...
If anyone knows how to get the PleXBMC add-on working within XBMC, I'd love to know how. I tried it and get a script load error every time I try to launch the add-on.
Other than that, do you know have any other add-on recommendations to make XBMC even better for the Fire TV?
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I wanted to post here since this is the "Apps" category for Fire TV...
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good, thank you! with hope, people will write about xbmc/spmc in this thread, instead of random other threads, or, even worse, that unholy "amazon fire tv" proto-thread that refuses to die.
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I've verified good video and audio playback on SD, 720p, 1080p videos. Scanning and skipping works well in video playback too.
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I prefer gotham, it was great on ouya. but on firetv I had to switch to spmc (12.4.2 as of koying's latest recommendation).
even the "master" and "amazonfiretv" nightlies and test-builds of gotham, give me a headache - it's weird and I can't describe it too well - pulling up the info overlay by pressing 'o' on the keyboard, I see that there are zero skipped frames and zero dropped frames. but ?something? is still screwy with motion blur - no artifacts or anything. but there is this jerkiness, or something, that hurts my eyes and the lasagna in my brainpan...?
my only complaint of spmc is that it breaks most of the 360 controller (a "ok/enter" and b "cancel/back" still work, but not the sticks or dpad). I still can't figure out how - neither xbmc nor spmc come with any keymap files, not under system/keymaps and not under userdata/keymaps. I have tried 360 keymap xml files from various github sources, both spmc and xbmc, no dice.
my only complaint of **MC in general is not being able to mess with network buffer sizes in the UI (yes I am that lazy) - usually don't have a problem with 720p mp4/mkv, and this is on wireless, even. but sometimes my landlord uses netflix over wireless and that kills everything else.
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The only thing I continue to stumble with is that pressing the "Home" button returns you to the Fire TV homescreen, backgrounding XBMC. I haven't yet found a way to create a homescreen or "Recents" shortcut for XBMC, so it's a chore to open it every time by navitgating to Settings > Applications...
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alt-tab isn't bad if you're already into using a keyboard...
I haven't tried it yet but people using alternate launchers have reported using Llama they can make it jump to their preferred launcher after pressing the home button. it might work equally well setting it to jump to xbmc rather than a launcher? hm I may have to try that...
I actually quite like the native Fire TV UI and would be happy with a hacky way to add a shortcut for side-loaded apps to the native menus.
I'm sure it's possible, so I'll be patient and wait for it to happen ?
I don't have any control issues because I'm using the fore TV remote, but I will be plugging in my Windows MCE remote USB IR receiver to see if I can get my Logitech harmony remote working on the fire tv.
The only other thing I would like is a mapping of the back button to "stop" when playing video in XBMC. the default xbmc behavior for the "back" action is to keep playing the current file in the background while displaying the last screen.its a very odd behavior IMO, and with no "stop" button on the fire TV remote, the only workaround is to pause the video when you want to go "back".
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archa1c said:
I actually quite like the native Fire TV UI and would be happy with a hacky way to add a shortcut for side-loaded apps to the native menus.
I'm sure it's possible, so I'll be patient and wait for it to happen ?
I don't have any control issues because I'm using the fore TV remote, but I will be plugging in my Windows MCE remote USB IR receiver to see if I can get my Logitech harmony remote working on the fire tv.
The only other thing I would like is a mapping of the back button to "stop" when playing video in XBMC. the default xbmc behavior for the "back" action is to keep playing the current file in the background while displaying the last screen.its a very odd behavior IMO, and with no "stop" button on the fire TV remote, the only workaround is to pause the video when you want to go "back".
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These are the steps that the user over on the XBMC forums posted to help us out with llama:
Event 1:
When phone starts up - set Llama variable 'startup' to 'true'
Event 2:
When the current app is XBMC on Ouya - set Llama variable 'starup' to 'false'
Event 3:
(Use the AND option) {when the current app is KFTV Launcher and when 'startup' has a value of 'false'} - run XBMC on Ouya.
However, you don't have to set KFTV Launcher as the trigger. I just picked a random app I didn't want to use as a jump pad. I installed the smithsonian app and put it in place of the launcher. Now when I open the smithsonian app, it flips back to XBMC. Not efficient, but works better than digging through the settings.
You can re-map buttons in XBMC with an add-on called keymap editor available in the programs menu>program add-ons>get more>key_map editor.
You can also just hit "Select" on the FTV remote and that will bring up the OSD. Then you can just d-pad to the stop button when you want to exit a movie.
v13 gotham beta4 release just came out (ok 2 days ago, I wasn't paying attention I guess). all my complaints about weird undescribable video motion are gone!
and that is even with turning off mediacodec and only having libstagefright turned on! yay!!!
http://xbmc.org/xbmc-13-0-gotham-beta-4/
http://mirrors.xbmc.org/releases/android/arm/
the beta4 announcement also said force update your repositories if you're having problems such as they're no longer staying up to date, or they're suddenly empty, etc.
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Add-on_manager#Force_refresh
they recommended this if you are coming from xbmc v12 (not spmc, it has its own separate file tree) or even if you are coming from earlier betas of v13.
tarvoke said:
v13 gotham beta4 release just came out (ok 2 days ago, I wasn't paying attention I guess). all my complaints about weird undescribable video motion are gone!
and that is even with turning off mediacodec and only having libstagefright turned on! yay!!!
http://xbmc.org/xbmc-13-0-gotham-beta-4/
http://mirrors.xbmc.org/releases/android/arm/
the beta4 announcement also said force update your repositories if you're having problems such as they're no longer staying up to date, or they're suddenly empty, etc.
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Add-on_manager#Force_refresh
they recommended this if you are coming from xbmc v12 (not spmc, it has its own separate file tree) or even if you are coming from earlier betas of v13.
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I also read that you can install SPMC and XBMC side-by-side due to the unique installation paths and libraries. I may try out the latest Gotham release, but I've been very happy with the performance of SPMC so far.
I really just need the ability to add a shortcut to the main menu, in either "Recent" or "Apps" etc for it to be convenient to access.
archa1c said:
I also read that you can install SPMC and XBMC side-by-side due to the unique installation paths and libraries. I may try out the latest Gotham release, but I've been very happy with the performance of SPMC so far.
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you got it, they won't step on each other because all the resources and binaries are separated into com.semperax.spmc and org.xmbc.xbmc. which is also a nice way to keep testing v12 vs v13 simultaneously...
although now that the motion-blur-weirdness-but-thats-not-exactly-it, is gone from gotham beta4, I am done with spmc (I could still never figure out why it broke so many buttons of the 360 controller, and I spent hours with keymap xmls and junk, ugh. whereas gotham always worked 100% fine. they both must have built-in keymaps you don't even see in their filetrees, or something)
archa1c said:
I really just need the ability to add a shortcut to the main menu, in either "Recent" or "Apps" etc for it to be convenient to access.
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yeah it doesn't bother me enough to reinstall nova launcher and mess with Llama.
but, recent, man that would be perfect. until now I was not a big fan of recent-type-behavior (sure, sometimes in the start menu in linux or windows, ok...) - but now with firetv it is awesome.
like, my watchlist menu is turning into some huge unholy mess. but the recent menu is serene and shows me exactly what I was doing: "why yes, sir, latest indications show that you were halfway through season 4 of sg1, and you were also using Plex around the same time".
of course they also jam those stupid semi-ads in the recent menu, so for that, screw 'em.
Something you can try is using the app "llama" to start XBMC whenever a certain program is lauched. For me, I have XBMC start whenever I open the app "Tubi TV". I just chose an app on the store that had an icon I could remember and set it up.
Works very well for me.
Nick0742 said:
Something you can try is using the app "llama" to start XBMC whenever a certain program is lauched. For me, I have XBMC start whenever I open the app "Tubi TV". I just chose an app on the store that had an icon I could remember and set it up.
Works very well for me.
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Would you be open to sharing exactly how you set this up?
What I can't figure out is how to use the library plugins to index both movies and shows. I have my entire collection in a single folder. Right now I can only enable either one or the other in XBMC. Is there a way to do both at the same time?
Try just adding the same path a second time, except denote it as a different media type the second type.
Not sure if XBMC will reject that or not since you've already added it once as a different content type (TV, movies etc)
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solo said:
What I can't figure out is how to use the library plugins to index both movies and shows. I have my entire collection in a single folder. Right now I can only enable either one or the other in XBMC. Is there a way to do both at the same time?
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I just verified that you can add the same path twice.
The first time, select a "TV Shows" scraper to have it scan TV show content for your library.
The second time, select the 'Movies" scraper to scrape and add Movie content from that directory to your library.
You will likely have some issues with some shows importing to your movie library, and some movies importing to your tv shows due to common names between both (example- Transformers movies will probably get scanner by the TV scraper and add the Transformers tv show series to your TV library).
Aside from these unavoidable duplicate scraping issues, all of your content should load.
I recommend braking our your library into separate directories for "TV Shows" and "Movies".
An easy way to do this is to install Sickbeard to automatically scan and move your TV Shows to a new directory, leaving just movies in your current media directory.
archa1c said:
I just verified that you can add the same path twice.
The first time, select a "TV Shows" scraper to have it scan TV show content for your library.
The second time, select the 'Movies" scraper to scrape and add Movie content from that directory to your library.
You will likely have some issues with some shows importing to your movie library, and some movies importing to your tv shows due to common names between both (example- Transformers movies will probably get scanner by the TV scraper and add the Transformers tv show series to your TV library).
Aside from these unavoidable duplicate scraping issues, all of your content should load.
I recommend braking our your library into separate directories for "TV Shows" and "Movies".
An easy way to do this is to install Sickbeard to automatically scan and move your TV Shows to a new directory, leaving just movies in your current media directory.
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I actually tried that same tactic before and it didn't work (Frodo). I am going to install Gotham today anyway, will try again.
My setup is that I download via utorrent and when completed, the files are moved to a single folder storage drive mounted on my RT-N66U. XBMC then reads the files from there... I'll look into sickbeard, thanks!
Has anybody tried LiveTV with tvheadend? It does work for me, but I am only able to use the channel that is already tuned. As soon as I try to switch to a different channel then XBMC crashes. It works fine on my Android phone, therefore it must be something with it running on the FireTV.
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Maybe a dumb question but how do i install .zip plugins downloaded from my computer?
NVM reading is my friend...
vogli said:
Has anybody tried LiveTV with tvheadend? It does work for me, but I am only able to use the channel that is already tuned. As soon as I try to switch to a different channel then XBMC crashes. It works fine on my Android phone, therefore it must be something with it running on the FireTV.
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Am testing with TVH.
Opening a channel is ok, HD or SD (h264 1080i without deinterlace).
Zapping is an issue, no crash but video gets very choppy like 4fps sounds is ok. Stop and Play fixes the issue.
Is the XBMC Ouya still the best xbmc for fire tv atm ?
c0mm0n said:
Is the XBMC Ouya still the best xbmc for fire tv atm ?
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No, the full 13.1 release for Android ARM from the main is best.
Thx !
Any special tip/setup on hw decoding ?

XBMC/SPMC/Kodi crashes on Amazon FTV !!! ( Solved )

I have tried Xbmc Gotham, Spmc and Kodi alpha on Amazon Fire TV.
But every time i found the same problem of crashing, i just wonder is it really a problem or just something wrong with my AFTV ?. It happens very often so i can not conclude that when exactly it crashes. Even i have not rooted my device. and nothing is installed except XBMC.
Also somebody would like to answer is there any way to update librtmp without root ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated !
Thank
arif01 said:
I have tried Xbmc Gotham, Spmc and Kodi alpha on Amazon Fire TV.
But every time i found the same problem of crashing, i just wonder is it really a problem or just something wrong with my AFTV ?. It happens very often so i can not conclude that when exactly it crashes. Even i have not rooted my device. and nothing is installed except XBMC.
Also somebody would like to answer is there any way to update librtmp without root ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated !
Thank
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Did you try the KODI forum? Mine crashes every fourth selection, no matter what section or add-on I am in.
What addons do you have enabled?
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captainjapan said:
What addons do you have enabled?
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1Channel
Crackle
ESPN Video
HD-Trailers.com
Icefilms
IGN.com
Revision3
YouTube
Plus WMC.PVR
Doesn't matter which one I'm using, crashes just as I select the fourth video, even when changing channels in PVR.
that is not normal behavior.. I've been running pretty solid since April. You need to produce a log and see what's happening could be so many things.
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1Channel
Crackle
ESPN Video
HD-Trailers.com
Icefilms
IGN.com
Revision3
YouTube
Plus WMC.PVR
Doesn't matter which one I'm using, crashes just as I select the fourth video, even when changing channels in PVR.
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Have you tried running without addons installed? Try only one installed at a single time to root out the cause. I only have Icefilms on two devices and have yet to experience a crash.
Set decoding method to "Hardware accelerated", fixed crashing for me.
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BigB42078 said:
Did you try the KODI forum? Mine crashes every fourth selection, no matter what section or add-on I am in.
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Sorry for late reply as i was on vacation.
NO i haven't tried there, i thought i will get quick response/solution here instead
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that is not normal behavior.. I've been running pretty solid since April. You need to produce a log and see what's happening could be so many things.
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File is attached , if possible please explain me the error information
Now i have removed the file as the problem is solved (23Oct2014)
verboten said:
Have you tried running without addons installed? Try only one installed at a single time to root out the cause. I only have Icefilms on two devices and have yet to experience a crash.
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I have only installed one addon
V8vroom said:
Set decoding method to "Hardware accelerated", fixed crashing for me.
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By default it is selected
Thanks all for resonses
Now the working/solution part
This solution will ONLY solve problem for those who are using Live tv, (at-least as I do). Both, SPMC and official XBMC crashed on Live tv (or any Live Stream addson) but not when playback from local contents. Now my fire tv runs quit smoothly with no crashed issues.
These are the following steps which needs to be done :
1. Turn off both filters (mediacodec and libstagefright) under hardware acceleration.
(goto System->Settings->Video->Acceleration>disable both filters MediaCodec and Libstagefright)
2. Change hardware acceleration to software. (when there is no filter activated it will automatically work as software, so basically Decoding method can be leave as Hardware accelerated as well)
3. Enable 'Allow multi thread software decoding' (optional if you changed DecMtd to Sofwre)
For those user who are not using LIVE TV but they have the same problem while using any other addson or streaming media from local server.
ONLY turning off Mediacodec could stabilize the system. Also bare in mind everything works fine with software rendering but sometimes cpu can be exhausted so try to put the device in open area where air can easily circulate, haven't notice so much heat but its better to be prepare.
With Mediacodec disabled, it also notices that XBMC runs little slower while watching movies and for example navigating the menus. That could also be cachemembuffersize, if experiences the lagging issue increase the cachemembuffersize.
Now i simply request to our respected developers to make some adjustments/fix to the media library so it can smoothly support Fire TV hardware.
Thanks all folks for helping each other.
arif01 said:
Now the working/solution part
This solution will ONLY solve problem for those who are using Live tv, (at-least as I do). Both, SPMC and official XBMC crashed on Live tv (or any Live Stream addson) but not when playback from local contents. Now my fire tv runs quit smoothly with no crashed issues.
These are the following steps which needs to be done :
1. Turn off both filters (mediacodec and libstagefright) under hardware acceleration.
(goto System->Settings->Video->Acceleration>disable both filters MediaCodec and Libstagefright)
2. Change hardware acceleration to software. (when there is no filter activated it will automatically work as software, so basically Decoding method can be leave as Hardware accelerated as well)
3. Enable 'Allow multi thread software decoding' (optional if you changed DecMtd to Sofwre)
For those user who are not using LIVE TV but they have the same problem while using any other addson or streaming media from local server.
ONLY turning off Mediacodec could stabilize the system. Also bare in mind everything works fine with software rendering but sometimes cpu can be exhausted so try to put the device in open area where air can easily circulate, haven't notice so much heat but its better to be prepare.
With Mediacodec disabled, it also notices that XBMC runs little slower while watching movies and for example navigating the menus. That could also be cachemembuffersize, if experiences the lagging issue increase the cachemembuffersize.
Now i simply request to our respected developers to make some adjustments/fix to the media library so it can smoothly support Fire TV hardware.
Thanks all folks for helping each other.
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Changing these settings worked for me too! Only on Live Tv my Premium channels would freeze and just keep playing audio(DIY, Lifetime, History, Animal Planet, Fox News, All HBO, SHOWTIME etc...) BUT now the problem is the picture has a lag to it, without he accelerations enabled they lag, I am using the new fire tv 2015, any other ideas to fix this or is Amazon Fire Tv just no good for Kodi? I will say I tried Kodi 14.2, 15.2, 16, and I have a paid subscription for iptv, my same settings work perfect on my windows machine.
Thanks

[Q] 3D Movies on the Fire TV?

One of the things I was most excited about pairing my Fire TV with XBMC was the ability to have on-demand 3D movies. Last night I gave it its first run and, unfortunately, it did not go well. We started a 1080p 3D movie via XBMCtorrent. Things went smoothly for the first ten minutes or so, then a big error message appeared on the screen saying that my Fire TV was nearly full to capacity. XBMC showed that it weighed in at over 6 gigabytes. (My Fire TV has only about 3 repositories and 3 add-ons installed beyond the native Fire TV software and the XBMC software itself.)The only thing I could think of to do was to use a Delete Files command that basically set XBMC back to the drawing board, where I had to reinstall all my add-ons, reset the screen size setup, everything, but at least the error message went away. We started up a new 3D movie, and several minutes in, XBMC completely crashed.
I know the storage on a Fire TV isn't enormous. Does that mean that 3D movies aren't playable on the Fire TV?
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One of the things I was most excited about pairing my Fire TV with XBMC was the ability to have on-demand 3D movies. Last night I gave it its first run and, unfortunately, it did not go well. We started a 1080p 3D movie via XBMCtorrent. Things went smoothly for the first ten minutes or so, then a big error message appeared on the screen saying that my Fire TV was nearly full to capacity. XBMC showed that it weighed in at over 6 gigabytes. (My Fire TV has only about 3 repositories and 3 add-ons installed beyond the native Fire TV software and the XBMC software itself.)The only thing I could think of to do was to use a Delete Files command that basically set XBMC back to the drawing board, where I had to reinstall all my add-ons, reset the screen size setup, everything, but at least the error message went away. We started up a new 3D movie, and several minutes in, XBMC completely crashed.
I know the storage on a Fire TV isn't enormous. Does that mean that 3D movies aren't playable on the Fire TV?
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It depends on your source I guess.
I have 3D Blurays I ripped to SBS MKV files using AnyDvdHD and BD-rebuilder. They play just fine so far.
But I'll admit I haven't tried playing any Torrents
Just a guess but are you using genesis with fan art enabled? Those thumbnails add up. Lots of people have complained about low memory. I'm rooted and since using advanced settings to store meta data on external drive I've had no space issues.
But, I'm not an expert, however, that doesn't make sense to me. I've watched very large 3d files on devices like atv2 with flash memory.
I don't want to steer you wrong but maybe the zero cache setting would work? I've read lots of posts on low memory and aftv but this is the first time I've heard of a file not playingon a device with apparently enough free space.
KLit75 said:
Just a guess but are you using genesis with fan art enabled? Those thumbnails add up. Lots of people have complained about low memory. I'm rooted and since using advanced settings to store meta data on external drive I've had no space issues.
But, I'm not an expert, however, that doesn't make sense to me. I've watched very large 3d files on devices like atv2 with flash memory.
I don't want to steer you wrong but maybe the zero cache setting would work? I've read lots of posts on low memory and aftv but this is the first time I've heard of a file not playingon a device with apparently enough free space.
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what advance settings did you use? xml text? and what... dill
Raymondo17 said:
One of the things I was most excited about pairing my Fire TV with XBMC was the ability to have on-demand 3D movies. Last night I gave it its first run and, unfortunately, it did not go well. We started a 1080p 3D movie via XBMCtorrent. Things went smoothly for the first ten minutes or so, then a big error message appeared on the screen saying that my Fire TV was nearly full to capacity. XBMC showed that it weighed in at over 6 gigabytes. (My Fire TV has only about 3 repositories and 3 add-ons installed beyond the native Fire TV software and the XBMC software itself.)The only thing I could think of to do was to use a Delete Files command that basically set XBMC back to the drawing board, where I had to reinstall all my add-ons, reset the screen size setup, everything, but at least the error message went away. We started up a new 3D movie, and several minutes in, XBMC completely crashed.
I know the storage on a Fire TV isn't enormous. Does that mean that 3D movies aren't playable on the Fire TV?
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i think it just means than any video you try and fully download with sbmctorrent onto the fireTV box is going to be an issue since there isnt room for big movies on the internal storage.
3d movies work fine here, SBS is most common online and is best imo. if your looking to "stream" 3d movies from online, try the addon named after the bird "phoenix" from tvaddons.ag it contains a few of the sources from the old mashup and 3 or 4 of them have a decent 3D section with 20-30 titles in each.
Thanks for the responses here.
KLit75 said:
Just a guess but are you using genesis with fan art enabled?
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KLit75, Genesis is one of the three add-ons I'm using. I'll have to dive in and see if I can find where to disable the fan art.
nhumber said:
i think it just means than any video you try and fully download with sbmctorrent onto the fireTV box is going to be an issue since there isn't room for big movies on the internal storage.
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nhumber, are you saying that XBMCtorrent downloads the full movie to the Fire TV itself, while other add-ons do not, they merely stream? Is that correct? XBMCtorrent does seem to operate differently, as a download routine occurs before the movie begins. I wonder, does it discard the movie file once I've finished viewing it, or do I need to go in and manually clear it out somehow?
nhumber said:
3d movies work fine here, SBS is most common online and is best imo.
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I'm not familiar with SBS. Is that an XBMC add-on, or perhaps a 3D file format?
nhumber said:
if your looking to "stream" 3d movies from online, try the add-on named after the bird "phoenix" from tvaddons.ag it contains a few of the sources from the old mashup and 3 or 4 of them have a decent 3D section with 20-30 titles in each.
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An excellent idea. I take it that these will stream like other typical XBMC media and won't bog down the Fire TV by trying to store it locally, is that correct?
Raymondo17 said:
Thanks for the responses here.
nhumber, are you saying that XBMCtorrent downloads the full movie to the Fire TV itself, while other add-ons do not, they merely stream? Is that correct? XBMCtorrent does seem to operate differently, as a download routine occurs before the movie begins. I wonder, does it discard the movie file once I've finished viewing it, or do I need to go in and manually clear it out somehow?
I'm not familiar with SBS. Is that an XBMC add-on, or perhaps a 3D file format?
An excellent idea. I take it that these will stream like other typical XBMC media and won't bog down the Fire TV by trying to store it locally, is that correct?
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from what you are saying i was just assuming that must be how xbmctorrent operates, which wont work well on the fireTV, i dont know if it saves it or if you have to delete stuff yourself, SBS means Side by Side, which is the typical 3d format you will find online. The Phoenix addon has SBS 3d movies in a few catagories and they all work well for me.
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what advance settings did you use? xml text? and what... dill
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I missed the part about xbmctorrent. Thats completely different. I use it on rpi openelec because I have a large HDD attached. I didn't know xbmctorrent even worked on aftv? But if it does it would need to be playing small files because otherwise your internal space will fill up to your limit then the movie will stop. xbmctorrent (I'm fairly certain) needs to download the entire file while it plays. Once finished it should auto delete unless you tell it not to. Like I said I never tried it on aftv but obviously it works. So if you're rooted you'd need to go into the addon settings and hopefully you can save that file to external (need to be rooted.)
The advanced settings I was thinking about is the zero cache from maintenance tool but it doesn't apply here at all now that I read the full post.
My advanced settings to store to external? Is that what you want? It goes something like this, but you need root. Copy this to a plain text and call it advancedsettings.xml
<advancedsettings>
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/.xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/usb/drive1/xbmcthumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
</advancedsettings>
Amend it if you're using kodi instead of xbmc AND if you mount with stickmount your usb storage will be in sda (don't recall the exact path but just check it by looking with es file or root explorer. I'd suggest using adbfire to mount the drive. Then you can follow those exactly if you're running xbmc. Create the folder in the external "xbmcthumbnails"
***ALSO if your metadata is completely blank after applying this that means it worked. Just delete the Textures13 in database, restart xbmc and they'll be back.
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KLit75, Genesis is one of the three add-ons I'm using. I'll have to dive in and see if I can find where to disable the fan art.
I just responded tht that advice doesn't really pertain to your problem. XBMC uses its own scrapers for all the art. Lots of people began complaining of low memory after Genesis was released. It pulls from many other places and you can access trakt collection, imdb, and other accounts then add them to xbmc library. It's an awesome addon really, but all that metadata that gets stored on your internal can amount to a lot and the AFTV don't have a lot.
But like I said xbmctorrent works by downloading the file to your aftv so the space needs to be available. Unless they're compressed to mkv, 3d files are huge. If you have say 2gb of space available and you want to watch an episode of the Walking Dead in HD (around 1 gb) you shouldn't have issues with playback. Plus, in general, everything runs smoother when your internal memory has room to spare.
If you're rooted Id advise you try those advanced settings I posted. I never get the low memory message.
I'm using spmc and stickmont, should just have to change the directory... no
dillfever said:
I'm using spmc and stickmont, should just have to change the directory... no
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Yes that's right. I've amended it for SPMC, xbmc, helix and when I went from sda to storage/usb/drive1
Remember to create a folder on external "xbmcthumbnails" and like I said all your icons will disappear. Just go into database, delete textures13 and restart. After I do this I usually just delete the thumbnails folder in xbmc. You should see a significant increase in free space after you check.
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Is there any solution to play 3d movies smoothly without giving error?
anandnitin25 said:
Is there any solution to play 3d movies smoothly without giving error?
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yes just press the play button.
anandnitin25 said:
Is there any solution to play 3d movies smoothly without giving error?
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Encode your 3D Movie as a HSBS MKV, put it on a network share, use SPMC to access that network share and play the movie back.
Works fine for me.
Using Plex Server/Player with my same HSBS MKV files works too.
There are tools out there to make them if you have the Bluray.
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This is good info for a newbie like me. So it looks like XBMCtorrent is not the way to go to view movies for those of us limited to the stock Amazon Fire TV hard drive.
Now the question is, how do I delete the data that has accumulated? Right now, my Amazon Fire is unusable because the Manage All Apps screen shows that XBMCtorrent has accumulated over 9GB of data, (isn't that nearly double what the Fire's hard drive is?), so I clearly need to dump that data somehow.
However, if I use the Manage All Apps screen's option to "Delete Data", as Raymondo17 points out, I lose everything I've spent time dialing in just right.
Is there a way to clear the accumulated downloaded movie data without having to start from scratch afterward? Again, I'm a total newbie as of this weekend, so "XBMCtorrent for Dummies" level answers would be greatly appreciated! ; D
PS - Does anyone have a favorite alternative to XBMCtorrent? I really appreciated the work they put into organizing the movie selections by 1080p, 720, 3D, etc..
mrwizzer said:
This is good info for a newbie like me. So it looks like XBMCtorrent is not the way to go to view movies for those of us limited to the stock Amazon Fire TV hard drive.
Now the question is, how do I delete the data that has accumulated? Right now, my Amazon Fire is unusable because the Manage All Apps screen shows that XBMCtorrent has accumulated over 9GB of data, (isn't that nearly double what the Fire's hard drive is?), so I clearly need to dump that data somehow.
However, if I use the Manage All Apps screen's option to "Delete Data", as Raymondo17 points out, I lose everything I've spent time dialing in just right.
Is there a way to clear the accumulated downloaded movie data without having to start from scratch afterward? Again, I'm a total newbie as of this weekend, so "XBMCtorrent for Dummies" level answers would be greatly appreciated! ; D
PS - Does anyone have a favorite alternative to XBMCtorrent? I really appreciated the work they put into organizing the movie selections by 1080p, 720, 3D, etc..
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I could say something about not stealing movies... but I won't. Well, I guess I just did...
rbox said:
I could say something about not stealing movies... but I won't. Well, I guess I just did...
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Heh, true.
But on the other hand, it is kind of ironic thinking about how much of a struggle it is to get my massive library of legally purchased blu-ray (23.976) to stream to my TV. That old idea that scene releases are often better created/packaged than their legal counterparts is absolutely true IMHO. This isn't to say that I support piracy; it's just something I've been thinking about the last week as I work with my AFTV.
*continues reading about installing Fedora*
ECEXCURSION said:
Heh, true.
But on the other hand, it is kind of ironic thinking about how much of a struggle it is to get my massive library of legally purchased blu-ray (23.976) to stream to my TV. That old idea that scene releases are often better created/packaged than their legal counterparts is absolutely true IMHO. This isn't to say that I support piracy; it's just something I've been thinking about the last week as I work with my AFTV.
*continues reading about installing Fedora*
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Sorry for the OT, but you have almost 24000 blurays??
Can you post a picture of the collection? Not that I don't believe you, just to know how this massive amount of BDs look
Btw, I play ripped 3d movies in SBS and OAU and both work (earlier on 13) now on helix played smooth over a nfs share from my synology nas (after I switched from wifi to gb-lan [emoji106]
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tomoffel said:
Sorry for the OT, but you have almost 24000 blurays??
Can you post a picture of the collection? Not that I don't believe you, just to know how this massive amount of BDs look
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Haha, forgot to label that. I was referring to the frame rate of uncompressed blu-ray video (23.976 fps). Stock, the Fire TV doesn't support 24hz output, so playback is choppy at times.
ECEXCURSION said:
Haha, forgot to label that. I was referring to the frame rate of uncompressed blu-ray video (23.976 fps). Stock, the Fire TV doesn't support 24hz output, so playback is choppy at times.
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Haha, okay
Yeah, that 24Hz thing is a really pita.. The only thing I don't like about that box.. And the failure cec..
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Raymondo17 said:
One of the things I was most excited about pairing my Fire TV with XBMC was the ability to have on-demand 3D movies. Last night I gave it its first run and, unfortunately, it did not go well. We started a 1080p 3D movie via XBMCtorrent. Things went smoothly for the first ten minutes or so, then a big error message appeared on the screen saying that my Fire TV was nearly full to capacity. XBMC showed that it weighed in at over 6 gigabytes. (My Fire TV has only about 3 repositories and 3 add-ons installed beyond the native Fire TV software and the XBMC software itself.)The only thing I could think of to do was to use a Delete Files command that basically set XBMC back to the drawing board, where I had to reinstall all my add-ons, reset the screen size setup, everything, but at least the error message went away. We started up a new 3D movie, and several minutes in, XBMC completely crashed.
I know the storage on a Fire TV isn't enormous. Does that mean that 3D movies aren't playable on the Fire TV?
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Real Simple... Find an Addon that does NOT use Bittorent. I mean what exactly would you think would happen if you tried to DL a 50GB 1080p 3D BR rip? On to a Device with only 8GBs of shared Storage?
Without naming names, there are a few Add-ons that offer Movies in 3D (Some also in Top Bottom), and outside of a few of these not playing correct on my tv. (The images weren't aligning correctly), these types of Movies have never caused me any problems. Outside of actually sending a proper 3D switching signal to the tv. Thankfully setting the 3D manually isn't that big of an issue.

HELP: kodi stuck in "working" when trying to generate list of movies or tv shows

HELP: kodi stuck in "working" when trying to generate list of movies or tv shows
Hi all,
I'm rather new to Kodi and my amazon fire TV. It came pre installed with everything so I never had to tamper with it until now.
About a week ago I noticed that when I go into for example 1channel -> movies or TV shows , then try to go into one of the sub categories such as "date released", "date added", or when I do a "search", that it would just be stuck with the logo "working" on the bottom right corner of the screen.
Now the shows that I've added to my Favorite list still works. When I go into them the links show up, and it streams.
I've tried searching for this on Google but didn't come up with much. I decided to update Kodi to 15.2 via the FIle Manager method (so I don't have to use a computer), Kodi is now updated but the issue didn't go away.
This problem doesn't just exist with 1channel, but also icefilms, phoenix, xkmovies etc.
Please helppppppp!!
A couple of things... Restart your fire TV (hold down the home button and play/pause button for 10 seconds), then try. If it doesn't fix the problem update whatever video addon you're trying to use. This is probably what's wrong - or the site which supports said plugin is currently down.
And most importantly, don't ask questions about piracy apps on this forum. It's against the rules. Ask them on the forums which support the video addons you want to use.
This ^
We allow general Kodi discussion, as it has legitimate and legal uses. But discussing add one that pirate TV and movies is not allowed on XDA.
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Adding custom GameStream games to the homescreen

Anyone have any insight on how to have custom games added to the android tv home screen under the 'games' section along with the officially supported ones? I looked through some of the nvidia files and made some progress, but haven't been able to achieve this yet.
For example, there is an xml file under appdata/local/nvidia/nvbackend called journalBS.main.xml that lists all the games that appear under the main games page when opening the Geforce Experience app on the pc. As we already know, not all games that appear here support gamestream, and as such these games do not appear on the shield tv. However, there is also this tag inside each game's entry in journalBS.main.xml:
<IsStreamingSupported Type="2">0</IsStreamingSupported>
Setting this tag to 1, like so: <IsStreamingSupported Type="2">1</IsStreamingSupported>, will allow the game to appear on the Shield TV. Launching the game will also generate an entry under the games section on the android tv homescreen.
As an example, Civilization VI, when installed on the pc appears in the geforce experience app on the pc, but not on the shield, because it doesn't support gamestream. Changing the above tag will make it appear on the shield, and also on the homescreen once it's been launched for the first time.
There is also a tag called "StreamingCommandLine" that allows you to change what the entry will launch when launching from the shield. On top of this, there is a folder called StreamingAssetsData in NvBackend that I believe is responsible for displaying portrait boxart images only. These are the images that appear when you open "Nvidia Games>GameStream" on the shield.
I have yet to find out where the landscape boxarts come from. These are images that appear when you open Nvidia Games and see a list of recently played titles. It's probably worth noting that when you launch custom added games from the shield it will display the same image both on the Nvidia Games home page (albeit a cropped version) as well as in Nvidia Games>GameStrean. Games that appear on the main page of Geforce Experience app on the pc, however, have different images for these two locations, one landscape and one portrait. I believe that the shield uses the landscape image to generate the thumbnail for the app on the android tv home screen.
Another thing I noticed is that the shield handles custom added games in an entirely different location under appdata/local/Nvidia Corperation/Shield Apps. Here you will find all of your custom added games as shortcuts, as well as another StreamingAssets folder that houses the boxarts.
Personally, I see one way of having custom added games appear on the android tv homescreen. One is to figure out a way to add new entries in appdata/local/nvidia/nvbackend/journalBS.main.xml. From there we can change the "StreamingCommandLine" and have it launch whatever game (or command) we want. Messing with the data inside the StreamingAssets folder should allow us to set the portrait boxart. However I don't yet know how we could set the landscape image that would appear on the android tv homescreen, since I haven't located these files. One possibility is this: the shield generates an actual android app for each of the gamestream entries on the android tv homescreen. Opening the apk to one of these entries will show a banner.jpg image in the res/mipmap-xhdpi-v4/ folder. Swapping this image out and reinstalling the apk over the old one should change the banner.
Now the roadblock: I tried duplicating an entry inside journalBS.main.xml and changing its Id tag so that it didn't conflict with the orignal entry I copied, and it had no effect. It did not add a new entry on the geforce experience app on the pc, nor did it add an entry under Nvidia Games>GameStream on the shield tv. This leads me to believe that journalBS.main.xml is not responsible for generating these entries, yet does have the ability to change how these entries are handled by the shield tv (such as changing "IsStreamable" and "StreamingCommandLine")
Annnnd that's basically as far as I've gotten. I feel fairly confident that one we figure out how to have new entries appear in the geforce experience app on the pc, it will only be a matter of setting its IsStreamable tag to 1 and setting StreamingCommandLine to launch your app of choice, in order to have it appear on the android tv homescreen.
And Sorry for the wall of text. I've never been good at explaining things briefly haha. Hope you guys find it comprehensible and also helpful. I would really really love to have this issue solved.

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